>>1438224 (Cont)
The new US policy could have significant implications for black men and members of certain ethnic groups for whom beards form a part of their religious identity.

Around 60% of black men are affected by chronic skin issues caused by shaving, according to the American Osteopathic College of Dermatology.

Razor bumps, known as pseudofolliculitis barbae, are a common condition of the beard area which can result in scarring.

Black Americans make up about 14% of the US population and around one-quarter of the Army's new recruits in recent years – a figure which is rising.

It's unclear where the new policy stands on cultural or religious waivers.

In the UK, the RAF and Navy have long allowed beards, but the Army had held out, citing concerns over respirator fit, among other factors.

Last year, the ban was lifted, meaning personnel in all three services can now grow beards. However, they must be kept neat and properly groomed.

OTHER SOURCES:
>https://taskandpurpose.com/military-life/pentagon-shaving-waiver-separation/
>https://www.army.mil/article/286911/army_updates_facial_hair_policy_to_reinforce_grooming_standards

>>1438224
Hey remember when that one retard was flipping out about Biden supposedly banning people for swearing in the military? Well now you can't even have a beard or you'll get kicked the fuck out. Hope you have razors wherever you get deployed.

>>1438224
In today's 'flood the zone with shit' news

The only reason the beard ban was lifted was because muh muslims

>>1438224
>"Unit commanders will initiate separation of service members who require a shaving waiver after more than one year of medical treatment," it says.
OH SHIT! BLACKS GETTING KICKED OUT OF THE MILITARY!

>>1438224
I am so fucking angry i cant grow anything but a shit goatee that doesn't even fucking connect. I know theres communities doing minoxidil and microneedling to get it to work but I dont know. Results usually look eehh okay, if you had some, I have very, very very few strands here and there on the cheeks. Existence was a mistake.

>>1438224
So all I have to do to not be sent to die for Israel is keep my beard? Neat!

>>1438674
Unfortunately the army does have razors, so if you get drafted they'll just shave it off.

>>1438677
I'll sooner use those razors to slit my wrists than go die in Bumfuckistan.

>>1438679
I don't believe you, but do hope you'll never have to find out if that's true. The same is true for me, of course.

>>1438224
That's a direct attack upon the Sikh personnel. Honestly, those guys have been nothing but loyal and steadfast soldiers and they keep getting screwed because they have the audacity to be not white.

>>1438224
Tell that to the Foreign Legion, among them are the Pioneers, who are encouraged to grow beards.
Tough Hombres are the Legion, Pete 'Alcoholic;' Hegseth.

>>1438742
Pioneers are just combat engineers without air support or any kind of operational budget. Like the USMC, but actually hard core. There is no place for that in the immense consumer sinkhole of the DoW (formerly DoD)

>>1438224
Remember anons, maintaining the grooming standard is mission critical. Now police dat moostache!

>>1438742
We're not French. Thank God.

>>1438814
/thread

>>1438814
>>1438815
Stop talking to yourself you corny faggot

>>1438224
To give you anons some insight about this, part of the purpose of grooming standards is not just about looking presentable or being disciplined. In order for a gas mask to work properly it must be able to make a tight seal with your face. Facial hair (e.g. beards and goatees) can end up preventing seal from being tight, and thus you need to adhere to grooming standards to be protected in the event of a chemical attack.

>>1438855
Who the fuck is going to use chem weapons these days? Not even the Russians do it in any meaningful amount outside of a few stray tear gas grenades in isolated incidents. The fact of the matter is that this is aimed squarely at people who do not conform to white biology or religious standards.

>>1438815
>We're
The schizo shows himself. And has never served in ther military.

>>1438856
>The fact of the matter is that this is aimed squarely at people who do not conform to white biology or religious standards.
I highly doubt that's the motivation behind this change.

>>1438856
>this is aimed squarely at people who do not conform to white biology or religious standards
Jesus has a beard. And is a swarthy Jew.
Not thought this one through have you, Seggsheth

>>1438856
>do not conform to white biology or religious standards.
cringe

>>1438860
The main people affected are people who can't shave for either religious or medical reasons, and it JUST SO HAPPENS the one condition that discourages shaving happens to be common in black men.

>>1438913
And the other primary affected demographic is the Sikhs, who are some of the hardest bastards around and you REALLY want to keep them on your side.

>>1438858
>We (Americans) are not French.

>>1438856
This is bait.

>>1438913
And? Its a rule of equal application.

>>1438940
Sikhs are losers. Dominated by the Brits with ease. Get outta here with the cope, pajeet.

>>1438951
>We
>>1438815
>We
Oui, oui

>>1438956
Yes. We (Americans) are not French.

>>1438952
>Sikhs are losers
Says that posting from within the most important room in a Bollywood cinema in Calcutta
You can ask Japanese veterans of Burma & Malaya in WWII. Those who survived, that is.

>>1438951
>>1438957
You'll be giving back a certain statue that is French then? You know what you'll be admitting when you refuse to give back Lady Liberty.

>>1438963
>dominated by Brits
>dominated by other Indians after independence
losers

>>1438965
>You'll be giving back a certain statue that is French then?
No.
>You know what you'll be admitting when you refuse to give back Lady Liberty.
Nothing, its our property.

Keep talking shit about us giving the Statue of Liberty back to France and we'll give France back to Germany.

>>1438951
>>1438952
>falling for b8
You must be 18 or older to use this site

>>1438966
>dominated by Brits
I've got a movie you can show at that cinema in Calcutta: Gandhi

>>1438967
>being anti-France
>being so pro-France by wanting to keep a lump of copper from that country
The duality of rightards

>>1438969
>okay you dominated the shit out of Pinjab with just a handful of Brits for 100 years
>but you gave back to us peacefully because we asked nicely
Double loser.

>>1438970
>liking the Statue of Liberty is pro-France
??????

>>1438971
>us
You'll never beat the projectionist in India allegations, shill

>>1438973
Fyi, Pajeet, you really need to work on your English.

>You'll never beat the projectionist in India allegations.
This doesn’t quite make sense grammatically because “in India allegations” is awkward.

Depending on what you mean, here are some possible fixes:

>If you mean the allegations about India:
"You'll never beat the projectionist in the India allegations."

>If you mean allegations that happened in India:
"You'll never beat the projectionist in the allegations in India."

>If you mean the projectionist is in India and facing allegations:
"You'll never beat the projectionist in India’s allegations."

Dont forget: Poo in the loo

>>1438224 us military has worried about preppy bs imo

>>1438972
>liking that from France is pro-France
Yes

>>1438977
>If you like a thing from a place
>you like the place
>not the thing
Ah, you're retarded.

>>1438974
>being this mad
Still not beating the projectionist in India allegations

>>1438979
>You're a pajeet because you made fun of pajeets for being losers
Okay.

>>1438982
>Okay
>>1438982 is okay with projecting

>two famous US generals with beards
So Ulysses S. Grant and he who gave rise to the term 'Sideburns' Ambrose Burnside were wrong, lil' Petey?

>>1438987
>b... but they had beards 164 years ago!
Okay, and?

>>1438974
>Pajeet
My, you're certasinly busy at that Bollywood cinema in Calcutta. I'm surprised you can find time to shitpost in /news/ no pun intended
>Poo
Shows the level of maturity you possess. Also your obsessions. And the fact you need to project or you wouldn't have said what you did.

>>1438991
lmao that post made you crashout so hard you responded to it twice.

Top kek.

>>1438990
...so why isn't it okay now? Are the men with beards in the room with you and Hegseth now? Point out on the GI Joe doll where the men with beards touched you personally, >>1438990 and Pete.

>>1438992
>being this triggered by a mere post
toppest kek

>>1438995
>...so why isn't it okay now?
Yes. Chemical warfare is a thing and is the reason that facial hair was removed from the grooming standard during WW1.

>>1438990
>Okay, and?
And were Grant & Ambrose still wrong?

>>1438998
>facial hair was removed from the grooming standard during WW1
>WW1
>he doesn't know

>>1438999
see >>1438998

>>1439002
Either make an argument or don't respond. Reddit snark just makes you look like a faggot.

>>1438998
>facial hair of a certain species being thicker than that of humans
So horses died in gas attacks in WWI despite there being masks made for them?

>>1439003
>faggot
>reduced to ad hominems
>facial hair was removed from the grooming standard during WW1
>WW1
>he still doesn't know

>>1439005
Yes. Gasmasks for horses are not as effective as those for men, they were useless against mustard gas.

Dude, you dont have to have a kneejerk reaction to everything the current admin does. No beards has been normative in the military for over a hundred years because chemical warfare is a thing and beards interfere with gas masks. This is why you're still allowed moustaches that dont grow past the side of your lips - they dont interfere with the seal.

>>1439003
>certain designs of masks used in WW1
But were Grant & Ambrose still wrong?

>>1439007
>>he still doesn't know
Yes. I dont know because you're not making an argument.

>>1439010
>But were Grant & Ambrose still wrong?
In 1860? No.

Is 1860 the current year?

>>1439009
>No beards has been normative in the military for over a hundred years
>other countries' militaries don't have a problem with facial hair
>masks with different designs
>>1439009: 'Oh, I must agree with Pete Hegseth because we're special!'

>>1439010
>>certain designs of masks used in WW1
All gasmasks.

Its an OSHA requirement today
>29 C.F.R. § 1910.134(g)(1)(i) –
>"The employer shall not permit respirators with tight-fitting facepieces to be worn by employees who have:
>(A) Facial hair that comes between the sealing surface of the facepiece and the face or that interferes with valve function; or
>(B) Any condition that interferes with the face-to-facepiece seal or valve function."

You dont have to oppose everything someone does just because you dont like that person.

>>1439015
>'Oh, I must agree with Pete Hegseth because we're special!'
I agree with him because this is what we have been doing for well over 100 years and there is no good reason to stop doing it.

>b... but other countries
Their soldiers either have to sign a waivers, arent permitted in combat roles or wear different gasmasks to our standard issue ones.

>>1439014
>different designs of masks in WW1
So that can't be done in the current year?
>>1439012
>I dont know
Admitting you have a problem is half the battle won. And Knowing is Half the Battle
As the saying goes 'Hey, if you know, you know'. And you don't

>>1439023
>So that can't be done in the current year?
see >>1439016

Yes, I still dont know what your argument is because you havent made one. Do you have an argument or are you just spazzing out?

>>1439023
>that can't be done in the current year
Under current US law? No.

I also don't see why we have to build millions of new gas masks so that someone can grow a beard. If you want a beard, just don't enlist. Simple as.

>>1439009
Good post

>>1439021
>or wear different gasmasks
So where's the problem? With the hundreds of billions the DoD have every year, apparently Hegseth thinks different gasmaks are too much of a burden on the taxpaer, all of a sudden? Or too much of a burden on his fee-fees because he has an irrational fear of beards? Either way, he has no place being in the position he is. But then, his Coward-in-Chief had an irrational fear of being drafted, so he never had a problem with masks
>one with the presidential seal during the pandemic. 'I got the Pfizer', Operation Warp Speed etc
...oh wait.

>>1439028
Okay so you're big mad because Hegseth did a thing. Cool.

>>1439026
>why we have to build millions of new gas mask
Yet other countries can What, can't afford them? Other countries can call Trump's USA poorfag then

>>1439028
>we spend so much on our military why not just spend more so people can grow beards?
I'd rather save the money, thanks.

So the dow made an adjustment to grooming standards and don't want beards.
That's pretty damn milquetoast. I'm honestly more interested in why leftfags are melting down over this.

>>1439031
Other countries don't have 2.1 million people in their armed forces.

>>1439030
>you're big mad
But enough about snowflake Hegseth, and his glazers too

>>1439035
Not beating those poorfag allegations

>>1439037
You're free to make dumb arguments.

>>1439033
>the dow
>melting down over this
>dow
Why hasn't the Seal of the President of the United States been altered so the eagle is looking in the direction of the arrows instead of the olive branch, then?

>>1439038
>dumb
You're free to not beat the poorfag allegations

>>1439040
You just made the most interesting post any libshit has ever made on /news/. I'm being serious.

>>1439042
What country are you from?

>>1438224

Calling it right now. Screenshot this. A media outlet will criticize this, then they will get sued for a billion dollars by Trump and banned from white house briefings. Between this, and the Gulf of America, and the Department of War, it is all BAIT for him to sue and ban AKA control media.

>>1439043
>libshit
You've just made the most telling post any rightist has ever made on /news/. I'm being serious too.

>>1439044
Why are you so triggered by the word poorfag? Self Deprecation. It's a thing. If others weren't so exceptional, they wouldn't be triggered & mad over a certain word.

>>1439048
You're pretending to be American now?

>>1439050
You're not pretending to be a projectionist.
People in 4chan don't need to mention they're American. It's very telling when others need to ask that. Again, projection.
>needing to say that
Not beating those non-American allegations, >>1439050

>>1439050
What's wrong with admitting your own country's faults & inferiority the latter referring to Republicans after Eisenhower ?
Admitting something isn't perfect is what humans do. Nothing's perfect as what's happened since 20th January 2025 perfectly demonstrates: how imperfect this adminifrustration is

>>1439040
Because you are unhinged and you should consider yourself lucky you are even allowed to use the internet at all

>>1439059
>you are unhinged
So why isn't >>1439043 , projectionist?

>>1438913
I could frankly care less if your religion requires you to not shave your beard. That's incredibly stupid. Don't join the U.S. military if it's that important to you. Also get a better religion.

>>1439251
...or supply better masks

>>1439261
Or just shave your beard. It's not that hard.

>>1439265
...or supply better masks that go beyond the chin . That's even easier.

How many Chads are gonna join up when they have to shave their Maga-marker? They'll coward behind the minorities that comprise the majority of the armed forces. I wonder how long those soldiers will endure protecting those that hate them. I'm sure all the white soldiers will be protecting DC. The rest, well make room because you're quartering them because the constitution has been suspended indefinitely.

Pfft. I'm not shaving my beard. Secretly joyous that he can be like Bone Spurs and not serve his country while spewing buzzwords of patriotism.

>>1439287
>>1439261
Or DoW could just say "no beards" and you could seethe impotently about it on the internet.

>>1439313
I mean this is probably gonna remove more ACTIVE soldiers than it will prevent people from signing up, but you do you.

>>1439316
Yeah, just like it did from 1910-2020. Idiot.

>>1439317
I mean they gave religious exceptions in 2010, and they always allowed exceptions for medical reasons... until now.

>>1439316
Heavens no, not our 2+ million soldiers

>>1439320
Dont care.

>>1439322
I mean if you think removing a medical exception in place for decades isn't going to have an effect on active troops, you're retarded, but you do you.

>>1439326
>but you do you.
Say less.

>>1439331
it's funny when you try to act like a black teenager while shilling for rightwing boomers

I'm a real patriot, just wish these dang bone spurs weren't an issue. Sorry, guys. I got your back, waaaayyyy back. Suckers and losers.

>>1438224
Stupid - their own vice President has a beard!

>>1439623
Wrong. It is an unshaved pussy. Has to be a pussy cause Trump shoves his nub in there and he isn't gay.

>>1439660
https://i.postimg.cc/ZR5ysLZL/trump-neck.jpg
Neckussy
Charlie Kirk has one.

>>1439313
...or they could just issue better masks and say 'No' to your whines, Karen

>>1439821
But you're the one complaing about shaven beards and having to buy new gas masks

>the rizzlords cant mew no more!
>oh no! *partybeat plays*

look out, 1439833 is being a Karen again
>>1439623
Just a heartbeat away from becoming C-in-C of the US Military
It's not going to be a good look if the troops he commands can't have beards, yet he does. Rules for thee, but not for me.

>>1438224
Special forces have always had a waiver. I wonder if they will still get one.