> "I am pleased to inform our many U.S.A. Patriots that I am designating ANTIFA, A SICK, DANGEROUS, RADICAL LEFT DISASTER, AS A MAJOR TERRORIST ORGANIZATION...">- President Donald J. Trump>https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1968472434224337221?t=zJCHw0wBhkn-vEOP78Tibw&s=19
>Kimmel and Antifa cancelled in the same day
>>1438366Now how long until we get the usual cope of >durr its not an organization it's an idea durrLet me just knock out this copy-pasta and preemptively debunk that bullshit before anyone makes it:If you think antifa is good and say so on social media you're sympathetic.If you join a protest with antifa or donate to the local antifa club you're aligned.If you attend planning meetings or help transport people or provide supplies you're a member>But antifa doesn't existLots of organizations don't exist in the same way antifa or BLM don't exist.Literally just dictionary definition:"An organized body of people with a particular purpose, a structure or arrangement of related or connected items."What is supposed purpose of antifa? To "stop fascism."What is the purpose of antifa in practice? To go and shut down the groups and events, protest against police by rioting and to intimidate among other things and to push "left wing" social and economic policies.Does it work toward this, yes. I roll my eyes anytime someone says Antifa isn't an organization. It's all just typical left wing word games. Yes it's not openly and completely centralized, that is irrelevant to the fact they are an organization, an entity, they aren't aimless blobs that just accidentally trip on a banana peel at the same time and crash into another, and just so happen to decide "Hey let's set this dumpster on fire together at this particular street right now." There is degree of structure to make these things happen.
>>1438370antifaggots leader are george soros and his retarded son; both are going down.and with them the international left; usaid was just the beginning.
>>1438366Not a valid news source.
>>1438377Is the White House shill.Stop coping
>>1438378no cope needed, x.com is never going to be a valid news source.
>>1438383being dense on purpose only works on r*ddit shill.mods wont delete this thread.keep coping kek.
>>1438366Yes. Yes they are. Put these fuckers in the worst black sites!
>>1438377>>1438383ok baby here: https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-designates-anti-fascist-antifa-movement-terrorist-organization-2025-09-18/
>>1438370Retard it's an ideology. This is like declaring socialism is a terrorist organization.
>>1438396The funding isn't lmao.Daddy RICO doesn't care.
>>1438400is there an "antifa" org they're donating to, or is Trump just going after literally any fund that's against him?
>>1438395paste the article text
>>1438402Every other terrorist organization is decentralized.never stopped us from going after them kek.are you scared tranny?
>>1438404Or else what bitch?
>>1438405You're saying the bunch of student activists saying Trump is abusing his power is comparable to al quaeda? You do realize one of the main traits of being considered "antifa" to the right is literally just being against Trump? Trump's quite literally saying that being against him is terrorism.
>>1438396>Retard it's an ideologyNope. Decentralization doesnt mean its an "ideology". The Klan was extremely decentralized with no central leadership and no uniform until the 1920s. Same shit applies. Dems doing dem shit.
Discord mods will hand over every antifaggot account to save themselves and you all know it.
Meanwhile in 2018https://apnews.com/united-states-government-3a61b1b01b97457589ad86fd5654ea27>The White House said Trump opposes violence and that federal law provides no “mechanism for formally designating domestic terrorist organizations.”
>>1438408No. We're saying we've had enough of your shit.
>>1438411>>The White House said Trump opposes violence and that federal law provides no “mechanism for formally designating domestic terrorist organizations.”You must be young. I'm old enough to remember when militias were a problem.
>>1438412Amazing how one retard gets shot and you start using it to justify making opposition to Trump's failing admin as terrorism. Just another admission that it only matters when it happens to an important republican; if the shooter had gunned down the entire crowd around Kirk you would've dismissed it within a day.
>>1438415Nope.
>>1438412>weLOL
>>1438418You certainly dismissed the school shooting that same day that was confirmed to be from a far right neo nazi.
Thread theme: https://youtu.be/9-bhhHmdpx0
>>1438424are you talking about something that happened in your head ir in real life?
>>1438427are you able to speak english or can we all make fun of you
>>1438406Or else the thread will devolve into non-fact-based kneejerking (which it already has)
>>14384201000s of your people got fired because they mocked kirk, included kimmel
>>1438432at least we don't pretend to be americans
>>1438432your brain has been rotten away with tribal partisanship
>>1438429did the nazi school shooting happen?dont change the subject tranny
>>1438436>brings up troons out of nowhereAnd there it is.
>>1438436i'm the person who laughs at you shill, you have me confused with someone else
>>1438439>>1438441I know its been a tough day for you. Latest polls out show most people blame you weirdos for the shooting, Kimmel canned, El Trumo having a blast in the UK and declaring antifa terrorists via tweet inbetween courses at a banquet. But having a huge public meltie is not helping your cause.
apparently it's been a tough day for projecting esl shill. i wouldn't know
leftards are already on full damage control lmaothey want to play revolutionary, I guess they'll get it uh
>>1438448yeah, you're definitely russian. how's that war of yours going? still not meat?
>>1438450lol. Same low effort script as always, I see
>>1438455your script certainly is low effort. i prefer switching it up. how many days to ukraine?
>>1438445What a time to be alive m8>>1438447These people are so dumb and disingenuous it's unreal. This is the exact same logic that leads them to believe men can be women.Sad.
>>1438445Who are you imagining you're talking to right now?
>>1438460he doesn't really care, he just needs the money. that's why it hardly makes sense
>>1438445Daily reminder Trump fucked kids AND our economy.
discord, reddit and twitter antifa members are cooked lmao.we have to archive eveything.
>>1438470ok but why are you declaring this here instead of twitter?
>>1438366this won't stop me from being anti fascist
>>1438396>>1438402>>1438408Guys, political violence IS terrorism, even if you scream WE ARE THE GOOD GUYS.All you had to do was keep violence out of politics, and then you guys shot Charlie.Retards.
>>1438487???esl or drunk?>>1438489good, it is game on.
>>1438492Hey didn't thousands of you retards storm the capital and then get pardoned?
>we're not a thing>buy our merch>fly our flag
Didn't he already do this in 2020? Am I misremembering? It was during the George Droid protests.>>1438508Antifa is a real thing but it's structured in decentralized and autonomous chapters.
If RICO fucked the Crips, it will fuck Antifa too.
>>1438537and you'll remain an unfucked genetic dead end
>>1438537lol people don't need money or structure to think Trump is a shithead. Guy can't even go to a restaurant without someone telling him he's scum.
>>1438539it's not like the people of antifa are any better. did you see their mugshots during the george floyd protests?
>>1438562great, you're all faggots. proud?
>>1438368HAHAHAHAHAHAYES
>>1438564you're still going to die alone though
>>1438492>When Minnesota Dems get shot it's just America >Charlie Kirk got killed? Guess that means we have to suspend the constitution
Good luck without the corporate help.
it's impossible to believe trump even dictated this tweet given his mental debilitation recently. i wonder who his autotweeter is
>>1438569Was the shooter a member of a terrorist organization in that instance, or was it just some mentally ill dude
>>1438573>dems gets shot>"Eh it was just some mentally ill guy">repub gets shot>"TERRORIST! TERRORIST!"
>>1438574don't forget the indescribably large number of children murdered by right wing school shooters. to which i'm sure a shill will respond, "well what about black people"
>>1438574Huh. Rather unhinged of you, can't answer a simple question, but ok.Enjoy the watchlist I guess.
>>1438576enjoy being in hell
>>1438576Well let's see: neither shooter was a member of a terrorist organization for one.
>>1438572Stephen Miller and Karoline Leavitt write 90% of everything Trump reads off the teleprompter, so it makes sense they would also write his tweets.
>>1438578Wow, you go from zero to unhinged at the drop of a hat don't you.Try taking a break from the internet and touching some grass
>>1438581that's hilarious advice coming from a literal shill
>>1438404WASHINGTON, Sept 17 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump on Wednesday signaled new action against left-wing groups following the assassination of right-wing political activist Charlie Kirk, targeting the anti-fascist antifa movement as a "terrorist organization."Trump said on Truth Social that he was "designating" the movement as a terrorist organization. "I will also be strongly recommending that those funding ANTIFA be thoroughly investigated in accordance with the highest legal standards and practices," Trump wrote.It was not clear what legal weight Trump's proclamation carried. Antifa is a loosely organized ideological movement without a clear leadership structure or hierarchy, experts said.A day after Utah prosecutors unveiled formal charges against the suspect in the assassination of Charlie Kirk, no evidence has emerged connecting 22-year-old Tyler Robinson with any outside group. Questions also remain about his precise motives.Trump and senior officials have repeatedly blamed left-wing groups for creating an atmosphere of hostility towards conservatives before Kirk's assassination.The White House is preparing an executive order on political violence and hate speech, a Trump administration official said earlier on Wednesday.
U.S. Vice President JD Vance, in an interview with Fox News on Wednesday, repeatedly blamed what he called left-wing political radicalization for the assassination.He said the White House was working hard to ensure that "funding networks for left-wing violence" are going to be treated like a terrorist organization.Critics say that Trump is using Kirk's assassination as a pretext to crack down on political opponents.Trump initially floated the idea of such a designation for antifa in 2020 amid violent nationwide protests following the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.At the time, legal experts said such a step lacked a basis in law, would be hard to execute, and raised free-speech concerns, given that subscription to an ideology is not generally considered criminal.The White House did not immediately respond to a request for further details on Wednesday.
>>1438583>It was not clear what legal weight Trump's proclamation carried. Antifa is a loosely organized ideological movement without a clear leadership structure or hierarchy, experts said.Fucking this. He tried this before and it failed because there was literally no way to implement it. this is just another hissy fit.
>>1438366TOTALMARXISTDESTRUCTION
>>1438596that's pretty bold of you, russia shill
>>1438598You said I was the Russia shill in the other thread. Now he is too? Who isn't a Russia shill in your unhinged simple little mind?
>>1438599nobody cares that you have multiple fake personalities, esl shill
>>1438366Wow, the fascist says being anti-fascists is terrorism.You don't fucking say. Truly, what a shock, I've never heard of an authoritarian shitbag doing such a thing.
>>1438587So he'll start arresting whoever he wants on the basis of them being Antifa, regardless of if it's true or not.
>>1438619and america will collapse into civil war so his real (blackmailing him) friends china and russia can benefit
>>1438619I'm sure this'll really help them getting fucked in the midterms. He knows his time is limited before he gets impeached once that happens.
Corporate mafia labeled someone a terrorist? Ironic.
>>1438620Bullshit. Americans don't have it in them to fight a civil war. >>1438621>b-but the midterms!Jesus fucking christ pull your head out of your ass already. You're not just going to vote him out. He controls all the levers of power, he's got people everywhere in the election system, the midterms are going to be influence, rigged, and gerrymandered to hell and back. They've already started doing this. They KNOW they can't win if they play by the rules, so they won't, and there's no fucking consequences for them doing so.
>>1438621I think the republican party is done for after this. I don't think they could spin this into anything other than what it is.
>>1438634Thankfully, he doesn't have much time left. Dictator for life... so 2-3 years. Entrenched Republicans? Trump is their spine, what are they without him?
>>1438634americans are spoiled bitches but that's essentially why they broke up with britain to be honest, so you never know
>>1438638What'd I just say about that head up your ass? The entire Republican party is in on this. They could stop so much of this shit at any point, and they don't. Trump's a geriatric old retard, puppeted by the Heritage Foundation and Project 2025, and Vance is no better, just younger. And I know what you're thinking; Trump's the figurehead, without him they'll lose the cult. Who cares? They already voted them into power, and now they'll never leave, they don't need them anymore. The entirety of MAGA could turn against the government tomorrow and it wouldn't change a thing. And besides, do you seriously think those gullible dipshits can't be influenced and manipulated by someone else? A week of Fox saying Vance is a cool dude and they'll fall in line. They got them to brush aside the fucking Epstein Files, they can get them over the loss of Trump. >>1438641You do know. The Revolutionary War was 250 years ago. We are not those people. We're fat, lazy, gullible, stupid, and hopelessly naive. You wanna know why the government lets us have guns? Because they know we're never going to use them.
>>1438652the bigger issue is how the right might react if the people actually listen to jefferson's famous words
>tfw the "antifa isn't an organization it's an idea" excuse could easily designate anybody on the left as an enemy of the state Eternal white boy summer
>>1438666>666satan's little helper confirmed
>>1438501>whataboutism to Jan 6th for every single topic again
>>1438569>When Minnesota Dems get shot >nobody on the right celebrates this>Charlie Kirk got killed? >at least half of the right celebrates this>gets butthurt when they get fired>Guess that means we have to suspend the constitution
>>1438698>at least half of the left celebrates thisderp
I'm so glad this pedophile is at least an old piece of shit.
>>1438370Okay so Kirk's assassin was republican because he donated to Trump and wore a Trump shirt. Glad you conceded, nazi
>>1438366I mean, didn’t they seize American territory and declare it sovereign?
>>1438719No.
>>1438366Antifa isn't even an organisation, period.
>>1438470>weNot your personal army
>>1438735>Not an organization>Engages in organized eventsYou know, they tell the lie to try to avoid shit like this from happening, right?
>>1438617Yes, sniping people from rooftops because you don't agree with their politics is terrorism. ter·ror·ism[ˈterəˌrizəm]noun the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims: "the fight against terrorism" · "international terrorism"
>>1438377>>1438383Are you intentionally being obtuse?
>>1438749>this one guy who is anti-fascist is a terrorist>therefore everyone who is anti-fascist is a terroristUh huh.
>>1438751>One guyUh, OK. And the Antifa name doesn't describe what they're doing. Terrorism isn't antifascism. And there's not real fascists to fight so they're all just fucked in the head faggots and trannies (quite literally)
>>1438751>only one anti-fascist has ever committed an act of terrorism or murder in recent US historyKeep telling yourself that.
>>1438751>one guyFirst time I heard of Antifa, it was during a Vox story of the riots.Bros were walking around with cans full of campbell's soup, braining police officers and when questioned they would say "oh no you don't understand this soup is my lunch"They're terrorist nutjobs
>>1438753How do you cram this much misdirection and misinformation into one line of text? >>1438754Alright. How many?>>1438755>I heard a vox story about people in a riot throwing cans at officers>therefore everyone who is anti-fascist is a terrorist???
>>1438756But we have no problem collectively shaming Conservatives?Interesting? Not really. Shitlords be shittin'
>>1438759What?
>>1438756>Alright. How many?Just off the top of my head? Michael Reinoehl, Jesse Taggert, Ben Valera, etc. I DARE you to tell me something stupid like they weren't Antifa.
>>1438761Can't find anything about Jesse being anti-fascist. I'll revise my statement for the other two, though.>these three guys who are anti-fascist are terrorists or murderers>therefore everyone who is anti-fascist is a terrorist or murdererUh huh.
>>1438762I'm just curious, how many examples do I need to provide of Antifa doing terrorist shit before you admit they're terrorists? 10? 50? 100? Over 9000? Because I feel like I'm arguing with a retard who would claim that Al-Qaeda isn't a terrorist organization because only 19 people were involved with 9/11.
>>1438763A majority.
>>1438764lol oh my God bruh.... So I guess Al-Qaeda isn't a terrorist organization then. Jesus Christ I was JOKING about you being this fucking retarded. It wasn't a bet to prove me wrong!
>>1438765So you're giving up? Alright.I understand, though. It's hard to prove an organization that doesn't actually exist is a terrorist group. Please, continue to compare your straw-stuffed antifa boogeyman to fucking Al-Qaeda, it really demonstrates how little you understand what you're talking about.
>>1438769>So you're giving up?Never said that. I'm just too busy laughing at your standard for terrorist organization.>A majority of members have to commit terrorism for it to equal a terrorist organization>Al-Qaeda has several thousands >only a few hundred have committed acts>therefore Al-Qaeda is not a terrorist organizationBrilliant logic there, anon. This is why nobody takes the left seriously.
>>1438775Do you think it's possible to support direct action against fascists without being antifa?
>>1438750Unlike your hugbox this board has standards.
>>1438749>Yes, sniping people from rooftops because you don't agree with their politics is terrorism.Hey so what is your word for shooting two elected officials and their spouses? Was that too up close and personal to count?
>>1438748Ok anon, wheres the membership requirements? Is there a way to sign up? What marks an official member instead of someone just claiming to be part of it?Because you know, there's a term for something that people unite under due to sharing the same ideals as opposed to requiring a specific membership. Hint: starts with an I.
>>1438769Antifa is a terrorist organization. It's official.
>>1438696Maybe because rightoids are the epitome of hypocrisy and double standards?
>>1438780No one celebrated their deaths.
>>1438696>the left is normalizing political violence!>NO THAT DOESN'T COUNT WE WERE TOTALLY JUSTIFIED BEATING UP ALL THOSE COPS AND TRYING TO STORM THE HOUSE
>>1438786Oh come on anon, that doesn't fit your own definition.
>>1438780>Hey so what is your word for shooting two elected officials and their spouses? Was that too up close and personal to count?Yeah I don't know what the fuck you're talking about. If you're referring to those two dem lawmakers in Minnesota, I haven't ever celebrated that and nobody here on /news/ has shown me a Republican that has - even though I've asked at least a dozen times. If you want to call the shooter a terrorist, go right ahead. Unlike what the left does for Luigi, I won't argue against it.
>>1438788nta, but there isn't really a group like anitfa you can tie that dude to
>>1438786>>1438789I'm sorry, is there a sentence missing from "the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims:"? I really don't see anything about celebration in there.
>>1438790I don't know; these "MAGA" guys seem pretty violent. They were pretty happen when another member of their group nearly killed Paul Pelosi with a hammer, and when Joe Biden said he had cancer they celebrated that too.
Oh great, 4chan is working again! (how hard is it to maintain a working website)>>1438778Do you think it's possible that you were wrong and a terrorist organization can exist even if the majority of it's members haven't killed anyone?
>>1438791Just re-clarifying there was no celebration. I already told you that you can call him a terrorist and I won't push back against that, so what's the fucking point you're trying to make? Are you making a point?
>>1438794The point is using "Celebrating the death of a known shithead who actively wanted to take their rights away" is a terrible criteria for terrorism. Whitewashing Kirk's history so you can use saying he was a shithead as a cudgel to silence any critical of the current admin by labeling it as terroristic is disingenuous; it's not illegal to have no sympathy for someone's death.
>>1438795>The point is using "Celebrating the death of a known shithead who actively wanted to take their rights away" is a terrible criteria for terrorism.Never said it was. So let's go right back to the original fucking question for further clarification:>Hey so what is your word for shooting two elected officials and their spouses? Was that too up close and personal to count?What are you asking specifically?
>>1438789>I haven't ever celebrated that and nobody here on /news/ has shown me a Republican that hasMike Lee immediately blamed "Marxists" and made a joke about a "Nightmare on Waltz Street".Multiple right wingers, including Musk and Bernie Moreno immediately blamed the deaths on the far left with zero evidence other than not wanting it to be one of their guysTrump immediately just used a question about it to attack Waltz.
>>1438796>All antifa have to be considered terrorists because one of them shot someone from a rooftop>No MAGA have to be considered terrorists after one of them shot two Dem lawmakers
>>1438798>No MAGA have to be considered terrorists after one of them shot two Dem lawmakersYes Alex I'll take things I never said for $500 please.
>>1438797>Mike Lee immediately blamed "Marxists" and made a joke about a "Nightmare on Waltz Street".So not celebrating?>Multiple right wingers, including Musk and Bernie Moreno immediately blamed the deaths on the far left with zero evidence other than not wanting it to be one of their guysSo not celebrating?>Trump immediately just used a question about it to attack Waltz.So not celebrating? Woah, hat trick!
>>1438799Ok so you'd be fine with considering MAGA as a similar terrorist organization then?
>>1438800>Guys this doesn't count as celebrating!>They were just really happy it happened to dems in a dem state and immediately tried to absolve all blame by saying it was a leftist
>>1438801Personally I don't care. Go ahead. If you want to claim that MAGA is just as terroristic as Antifa then whatever. See you fucked up by assuming I own a red cap.
>>1438802>guys they're blaming someone incorrectly for something bad happening>this is the same as celebrating it!Retard.
>>1438805Hey that's the same logic being used to justify forcing ABC to can Kimmel.
"Terrorist organization" isn't a legal thing. Foreign terrorist organization is, but that doesn't apply to domestic groups.
>>1438806>>They were just really happy it happened to dems in a dem state>still can't show an example of them being really happy it happened>wuh - w - well they're blaming Waltz so that means they're happy about it!>No I don't have any dancing TikTok videos or shitty late nite comedians mocking their deaths by Republicans. So what?
>>1438806Kimmel violated 18 U.S.C. § 35 which is not the same as "telling jokes about the President".
>>1438808>>1438809Show me the clip where Kimmel makes any jokes about Kirk dying. Not a clip where he mocks the republican reaction to Kirk dying, a clip where Kimmel mocks Kirk for dying.
>>1438810I will after you show me a video of Republicans celebrating the deaths of those two dems in Minnesota you keep whataboutisming to.
>>1438810I dont need to show you shit.
>>1438808>Dancing tiktok videos = "DEMS ARE MOCKING HIM BEING SHOT!"Genuinely pathetic.
>>1438813See >>1436636
>>1438811>Hey here's them making jokes about how bad this is for Waltz>THAT DOESN'T COUNT>ALSO WHAT KIMMEL SAID DOESOk lol.
>>1438793You are confusing me with someone else anon. I hadn't previously posted in this thread. I'm still interested to know though. Do you think it's possible to support direct action against fascists without being antifa?
>>1438816>Looks at some of the social media posts cited>Literally just quoting Charlie Kirk back at himself
>>1438818>Do you think it's possible to support direct action against fascists without being antifa?Antifa coded language. You're going to have to go on a list.
I like how many Repubs in this thread are like "Only the dems are so monstrously violent and terroristic to celebrate such violence! We'd never do that... unless it was Paul Pelosi almost getting beaten to death with a hammer. That was funny as hell."
>>1438821Paul Pelosi was not beaten to death with a hammer.
>>1438822>Guys it's fine; he just ALMOST died!
>>1438823If that is the argument, why lie?
>>1438824Where's the lie?
>>1438821Oh yeah, the guy who got in a dispute with the gay prostitute he hired, that guy.
>>1438819>look at all of the goalposts flying around the roomHoly shit are you a wizard?
>>1438826>Immediately continues mocking itYou know I hear Kirk actually was grooming that kid on discord. Lovers quarrel.
>>1438827>Dems are mocking his death!>Ok well, there's tiktoks of them celebrating it!>NO USING HIS OWN QUOTES ABOUT SHOOTINGS AND EMPATHY IS CELEBRATION!
>>1438817>yeah we're laughing at this dead guy... but Republicans made fun of Waltz... who isn't dead... so it's the same because... well because I said so!
>>1438833>Accuses democrats of celebrating the death of someone for political reason>Celebrates how bad the minnesota killings makes Waltz look
>>1438818>You are confusing me with someone else anon. I hadn't previously posted in this thread.Which is why most smart people say something like "not that anon" or "NTA", so they won't be confused for someone else when forcing into someone else's chain of replies. Welcome to 4chan.>I'm still interested to know though. Do you think it's possible to support direct action Define direct action. I don't condone murder.>against fascists without being antifa?And this is the same problem you've had since 2015. Your use of the word "fascist" (which Charlie Kirk wasn't) is so nebulous it can be applied to 99.99% of the human population. Don't want underqualified DEI hires in critical jobs that could get someone killed? Hey fascist, catch!
>>1438835>Accuses democrats of celebrating the death of someone for political reasonBecause it's really hard to find a video of democrats celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk for political reasons, amirite?
>>1438779The Twitter link used in the OP comes from @whitehouse, which is the official account for The White House. That makes it a 1st-party/primary/official source and is completely valid to use. It's information directly from the writer, not a 3rd-party. Did you not learn any of this in school?
>>1438836Newfag
>>1438836>which Charlie Kirk wasn'tKirk supported the US military occupying US cities.
>>1438845That's not fascistic you fucking monkey.
>>1438847>Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.Kirk literally believed in all of these things.
>>14388451) Give me a source on that. The overwhelming majority of the time I hear you faggots make a claim that "durr Kirk said X" it's bullshit. Like the "HE WANTS TO STONE GAYS DURR" bullshit you cunts were on about yesterday - then I waste my time finding the video and to my shock he never said that.2) If this is about Trump's D.C. stunt then I can see where he's coming from logically. That's not a fascist take to say crime is out of control and we need the National Guard to help stop that.3) Sending NG into parts of America is not a fascist move. It's a power the president has, that other presidents before him have done.
>>1438848>Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economy.I see someone uses AI for their research.
>>1438853lmao this is off wikipedia.
>>1438854Well let's take this one step at a time. >Kirk literally believed in all of these things.>Fascism is characterized by a dictatorial leader,When and where did Kirk say this?
>>1438857https://www.c-span.org/clip/campaign-2024/charlie-kirk-founder-turning-point-usa/5124047
>>1438859I don't know why I'm so disappointed in you, but I am.>he supports Trump what a fascistDo you have any REEEEEEAAAAAALLLL examples?
>>1438851>(On Chicago not wanting Trump to deploy the national guard) Is the wildly unpopular Mayor of Chicago Brandon Johnson calling for an insurrection against the federal government? This is quite literally how you get the National Guard to show up in your city, Mr. Mayor. This communist clown should be prosecuted for inciting violence>Every public sector official who upholds sanctuary laws is aiding in a conspiracy to violate the laws of the United States and should be charged accordingly.>(On Trump seizing control of DC) This should 100% happen. The out of control crime in DC is a national embarrassment.
>>1438857Literally almost every fucking post Kirk had about Trump in the last month before he got shot was saying how Trump had the "strength of will" to take control of DC and California... even though that's illegal.If you can't recognize a dog whistle...
>>1438865>Every public sector official who upholds sanctuary laws is aiding in a conspiracy to violate the laws of the United States and should be charged accordingly.Yeah, and? He's not wrong. In fact I'm sure that's what Trump used as the legal basis to send troops into Los Angeles to protect federal ICE facilities from rioters. Still not seeing the part where this is fascism. "Trump did a thing and I don't like it!" is not proof of fascism.
>>1438867>even though that's illegal.Except that isn't, you fucking retard. Does the president have the authority to federalize troops and use them to enforce federal law if a state refuses to? Yes or no.
>>1438853Absolutely monarchy is fascist?
>>1438853>characterized by a dictatorial leader, centralized autocracy, militarism, forcible suppression of opposition, belief in a natural social hierarchy, subordination of individual interests for the perceived interest of the nation or race, and strong regimentation of society and the economyCouldnt this easily apply to the USSR
>>1438869Not if he makes up the emergency lol.>>1438868States rights.
>>1438873Answer the question. It's a simple yes or no.
>>1438873.................... I'm waiting.Fuck this. Let's just cut to the chase: was Kennedy a fascist when he 'violated states rights' to force black kids into schools, or was that a power the president, like those before him, always had?(watch as this question doesn't get answered either)
>>1438877No because equality is in the constitution.
>>1438874The president has that authority only if there is a valid emergency. Which there wasn't, either time. So no.
>>1438880So using troops to enforce federal law?
>>1438881Or to protect federal property... y'know that property you people were vandalizing?
>>1438886He didn’t seem too concerned about that on January 6. He even pardoned everyone involved with it
>>1438889More whataboutism to Jan 6th. You people seriously need to learn some new tricks.
>>1438890>political violence is okay as long as Trump says soMaybe you could stop being blindly loyal to a hypocrite if you don’t like being called out for it
>>1438891Maybe you could try staying on topic instead of breaking glass for emergency Jan 6th whataboutism every single time you lose an argument.Oh and by the way, since we're talking about Trump being a fascist for wanting to deploy troops...https://justthenews.com/accountability/watchdogs/bombshell-transcripts-trump-urged-use-troops-protect-capitol-jan-6-was>“The President just says, ‘Hey look at this. It’s going to be a large amount of protesters come in here on the 6th, and make sure that you have sufficient National Guard or Soldiers to make sure it’s a safe event,’” Milley told the inspector general in one of two interviews he did in spring 2021 during a probe of the Pentagon’s response to Jan. 6.
>>1438400>>1438537RICO is not a silver bullet that you can point at any group that the President doesn't like and get them banned. There are strict elements that a prosecutor needs to prove (like the existence of an enterprise, something that "Antifa" lacks). The idea that the administration is going to prosecute people just for supporting Antifa is pure delusion, another attempt to channel anger and attention away from shit like impending stagflation or the Epstein files.
>>1438893And what enterprise did the Crips have?
>>1438893same energy as, "We're going to prosecute all these hateful comments" but a few days before the shameful press conference where they admit they can't because its illegal
>>1438892Good post
>>1438892Don’t be a hypocrite if you don’t want to be called on it. Pretty simple
>>1438897This is coming from the same hypocrite that gets upset when a Republican president (Trump) uses troops to enforce federal law, but doesn't get upset when a democrat (Kennedy) does the same thing - and then cries MUH JAN 6TH every time he gets called out.
>>1438893RICO IS a silver bullet you retarded ESL.If you are not american shut the fuck up.>>1438899If it weren't for double standards, dems would have no standards at all.
>>1438899>KennedyWhen you have to go back 70 years to prove a point...
>>1438894An actual membership and clear criminal purpose (selling drugs and killing Bloods) for the association. Something that Antifa lacks by its own definition. And then you need to point to the commission of a pattern of specific crimes committed by members of the group. Upsetting conservative's feelings is not a federal crime, as much as MAGA wishes it was.Also, not sure why you talk about the Crips in the past tense, they still exist. They're all over the country now, hundreds of little Crips-associated gangs that operate independently from each other.
>>1438892If you retards want to moan about political violence, you need to remember YOU are the side that pardoned over a thousand people convicted of it. Violence is apparently only acceptable when it's done in the name of Trump.
>>1438899>Guys Kennedy using federal troops to ensure a black child isn't lynched for going to school is the same thing as Trump using them to forcibly take control of cities he doesn't likePathetic
>>1438907Or rather I just picked a really good example. It's so good you couldn't engage it directly and had to whataboutism to Jan 6th for the 65,000th time. >>1438910>YOU are the side that pardoned over a thousand people convicted of it.I don't want to hear shit about pardons after Biden gave out over 8,000 of the fucking things - including to people that weren't charged with any crimes. >>1438912>Guys the president can only use his powers when WE say it's okay!Speaking of pathetic, imagine getting butthurt and claiming Trump is taking control of cities because he won't let you burn down an ICE facility.
>>1438914>>Guys the president can only use his powers when WE say it's okay!The president can only use his powers when he's legally allowed to. He isn't a king; Kennedy was doing it to prevent a race riot and prevent people from threatening Ruby Bridges' constitutional rights. Trump is doing it to exert control over cities solely because he doesn't like them; his emergencies are literally DIMMINISHING crime rates.
>>1438914>I don't want to hear shit about pardons after Biden gave out over 8,000 of the fucking thingsWere any of them for trying to overthrow the government for him? For beating the shit out of cops in his name? If you wanted to make a point that "political violence isn't ok no matter what side!" Trump would've kept his pardons exclusively to those who didn't assault cops. But he didn't; he pardoned the ones bashing cops with flagpoles. He legitimately said there are in-fact forms of political violence that are completely fine.
>>1438915>The president can only use his powers when he's legally allowed to.Which he did.
>>1438917Invoking bullshit emergencies to use emergency powers isn't legal anon.
>>1438916Its funny that the retard is advocating for violent seditionists who got released and immediately started molesting kidsAt least we know where their priorities are at
>>1438914>after Biden gave out over 8,000 of the fucking thingsThat didn't happen.https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/07/biden-granted-more-acts-of-clemency-than-any-prior-president/>Over four years, Biden issued 80 pardons and 4,165 commutations for a total of 4,245 acts of clemency.>The number of pardons Biden issued is the second lowest on record; only George H.W. Bush granted fewer (74). His commutations were to reduce (not pardon) the sentences of people convicted of non-violent offenses and to take 37 people off death row and put them into life imprisonment.>including to people that weren't charged with any crimes.The precedent for which was already set by a certain Republican president many years ago. >>1438902>waah you said things I don't agree with, you are ESL!I'm more American than you, faggot.
>>1438916Oh boy, we're doing the Jan 6th again because you've successfully moved the goalpost with another of your dogshit whataboutisms.>If you wanted to make a point that "political violence isn't ok no matter what side!" Trump would've kept his pardons exclusively to those who didn't assault cops. Kinda hard to do when you made the list of people arrested just for being at Jan 6th in the THOUSANDS and he's got too much shit to do than to pick and choose each individual case - and then defend each and every one of those pardons to people like you who just hand-waved almost 10,000 pardons in one fucking term that Biden did - which again includes people that weren't charged with a fucking crime, so how the hell that's legal is a mystery to me.So yeah I don't want to fucking hear it. If Biden can pardon his crackhead son and pardon Milley for ... nothing? ... then Trump can pardon all the people that were at Jan 6th when the government steamrolled over every single person that was there and was charging 75 year old grandmothers with seditious conspiracy - by the way the same fucking government that didn't go anywhere near as hard on the left when they tried to storm the White House on May 30th, or the people who allowed CHAZ to exist, that lovely bit of sedition we don't call sedition because the left did it.
>>1438921Hey, don't redact history; they were already molesting kids before they became violent seditionists.Something something birds of a feather...
>>1438919We'll see what the Supreme Court says. Until then his use of federalized troops to defend federal ICE facilities was legal, and your whole argument of "Trump's a fascist" is as debunked as your "Charlie Kirk loves fascism" argument.
>>1438924>Whatabout BidenNot him, but Biden pardoning his son was an act of corruption. I think the whole country should curse his name for that.Are you willing to say the same about Trump? Or do you think the people who attacked those police officers did nothing wrong?
>>1438933>Are you willing to say the same about Trump? Or do you think the people who attacked those police officers did nothing wrong?Honest answer: it was an act of laziness. I've already gone into how he doesn't want to sift through hundreds of cases, carefully weigh who should get pardoned and who shouldn't, and then have these "fun" arguments over who did and didn't get pardoned. And after the bullshit lawfare he had to go through, the mass pardon was one big Fuck You to all the dems that tried to lock him up for not using federal funds to pay off a hooker. So while it would've been nice to have those who attacked police not be pardoned, that was just one of several executive orders he planned to sign on day one and he couldn't give a fuck if dems got upset over it when he still had several more inches of cock to shove up their asses as payback.
>>1438941>Letting people get away with brutalizing cops is excusable if you're lazySpoken like a true leftist.
>>1438944>You have to hold yourself to higher standards than I do!
>>1438944So now you care about brutalizing cops?
>>1438941>Guys he was just so lazy he accidentally legitimized political violenceThat incompetence alone should be reason for impeachment.
>>1438961Its not. Stop just screaming "impeach" at everything you dont like.
>>1438964We literally impeached Clinton for lying about fucking an aide. Trump has lied about much, much more than just that (Gas prices, inflation, wars, etc.) in addition to using his power to enrich his personal enterprise (hosting official white house events on his own properties anyone? Everyone who stays there has to pay him) and open corruption (literally asking for donations in exchange for being spared from retaliation)
>>1438976>We literally impeached Clinton for lying about fucking an aide.Lying under oath is a crime. Exercising pardon powers is not.
>>1438566sure thing terrorist, you're going to rot in prison.>>1438572other way around he's stressed out because of tweeting like its his job. he's doing god's work>>1438574you sound like a terrorist maybe you should turn yourself in
>>1438751>if i call myself human rights, then I can do anything and anyone whose against me is against human rights.kekeke the terrorist still believes this unironically.
>>1438769>hard to prove an organization that doesn't actually existthey get funding from pacs, they're used to represent a group of loosely connected people, they're a terrorist group. you're a pathetic terrorist gaslighter>>1438763a million you're a arguing with a radicalized terrorist you could literally have an antifa member murder people on video of which there are plenty documented by andy ngo and they'd still make an excuse about how its just 1 person it doesn't represent them, then go on and make excuses about how if its not published on their politically compromised outlet it has no merit.x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1966640750290235444Don't argue or treat terrorists like normal people they're too far gone and need to be put down. people like>>1438769should be in a mental asylum not out in public they're a danger to society and a prime example of human filth.
>>1438785funny how you only have 1 example for righties where no one dies but you'll excuse all the antifa riots, BLM riots and calls for violence from the left.Its pretty telling you pathetic hypocrit, i've never seen a righty used whataboutism because it was literally a term made by the left to excuse hypocrisy.you fucking terrorist.
>>1439008>I'll ignore 1/6, Charlottesville, and the Oklahoma City Bombing because those don't count!Reminder Biden never pardoned anyone convicted of assaulting police during BLM, but Trump pardoned everyone convicted of assaulting police during 1/6. You don't get to claim "The left is promoting violence!" when you literally gave a free pass for violence in your name.
>>1439008>>1439011You mean the Boogaloo riots.
>>1439011>when you literally gave a free pass for violence in your name.I can and will when you have leftists politicians and commentators actively promoting it.Oh nice pathetic excuses meanwhile antifa literally co-opted ADL so that they and BLM don't contribute to the far-left extremist violence count and pretend leftists are innocent babies.fuck off you bad faith hypocrite, you are vile you are a terrorist, you will be prosecutors and you will be thrown into a camp and made to work for 50cent an hour until you break while being anal raped in prison.
>>1439020Trump pardoned people who committed violence in his name. They assaulted cops and got pardoned solely because they did it for Trump. This never happened with any BLM or antifa protestors; the only party in the US who has sent a clear message of "Violence in our name can come without consequences" are Republicans.
>>1439020>still whining about BLM in 2025Man they really mindbroke you, huh?
>>1439039antifas don't get arrested nor media coverage you retard, funny how you say he pardoned people in his name meanwhile biden did a blanket pardon and the only event you terrorists keep bring up is one where no one died except for one of the protesters.you're a bad faith terrorist no one will care when you're bank account is frozen and you're charged for incitement of violence.>>1439067maybe you should stop existing then
>>1439068Is Antifa and BLM in the room now?
>>1439069ya>>1439068>>1439039>>1439011>>1438769and countless others throw them all into the jail cell to become prison bitches.
>>1438976>We literally impeached Clinton for lying about fucking an aide.And you lecture me about going back 70 years to prove a point?
>>1439071take your meds, groyper
>>1439073NTA but Clinton is alive and people 70 years ago are long dead.
>>1439068>and the only event you terrorists keep bring up is one where no one died except for one of the protesters.Yeah actually this guy brings up a very valid point. How many times have Antifa murdered someone? And you cocksuckers keep throwing BUTWHATABOUTJAN6ISM replies every five seconds when there's no comparison? Last I checked, MAGA wasn't blocking roads and shooting elderly people in the streets.
>>1439077>NTA but Clinton is aliveGood for him. You know what else he is? Last century's president!
>>1439080Actually his presidency ended this century.
>>1439078https://x.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1966640750290235444countless times actually its not even documented because the ADL is compromised and doesn't treat antifa or BLM as a radical group and media coverage like this is outright ignored by the mainstream pressyour comment is so asinine it shows how much of a pathetic hypocrite you are.Well don't expect any sympathies from me when terrorists like you are arrested enmass and thrown into prisons for life you pathetic loser
>>1439085.... I think that might've been a case of friendly fire there, champ. Just because I'm replying to you doesn't mean I'm arguing with you. Re-read my post.
>>1438366Antifa isn't an organization at all, you stupid motherfucker.
>>1439084Ugh... clearly you're missing the point. The 90s didn't have political division anywhere near what we have today. Also Clinton was impeached for lying under oath, see there's a distinction between Trump saying "gas prices are the best they've ever been, I tell you, they're going to be great they're fantastic I know a lot about gas" and Clinton saying "I did not have sexual relations with that woman". >>1439011>>I'll ignore 1/6,Yeah who died on 1/6 again?
>>1439103>If you think antifa is good and say so on social media you're sympathetic.>If you join a protest with antifa or donate to the local antifa club you're aligned.>If you attend planning meetings or help transport people or provide supplies you're a member>>But antifa doesn't exist>Lots of organizations don't exist in the same way antifa or BLM don't exist.>Literally just dictionary definition:>"An organized body of people with a particular purpose, a structure or arrangement of related or connected items.">What is supposed purpose of antifa? To "stop fascism.">What is the purpose of antifa in practice? To go and shut down the groups and events, protest against police by rioting and to intimidate among other things and to push "left wing" social and economic policies.>Does it work toward this, yes.>I roll my eyes anytime someone says Antifa isn't an organization. It's all just typical left wing word games. Yes it's not openly and completely centralized, that is irrelevant to the fact they are an organization, an entity, they aren't aimless blobs that just accidentally trip on a banana peel at the same time and crash into another, and just so happen to decide "Hey let's set this dumpster on fire together at this particular street right now." There is degree of structure to make these things happen.Every time.
Someone just dumped 2.1 billion chat messages from 39 million different discord servers complete with user information
>>1439106If anybody wants to find it, it's up on darkforums right now. I can't post a link because it's an onion service, But I'm sure you'll be able to find information about it through public searches pretty soon
>>1439105Spare me the copypasta, retard. It's wrong, you're wrong. It's not an organization, it's not a blanket term for organizations, it's barely even an ideology, it just means being against fascism. This jackass is trying to declare saying "I think fascism is bad" or "I think Trump is a fascist as terrorism. It's exactly what fascists do.
>>1438929Yeah because the supreme court is not open to fascism, right?
>>1438933>Not him, but Biden pardoning his son was an act of corruption.Imagine pretending this is the straw that breaks the camel's back and you look at what the other side is doing and its you defending a pedophile.
>>1439073When you're talking about impeachments you gotta work with what we've got.
>>1439112>it just means being against fascism.>by killing people who are not fascists, but I think they are so bang bang
>>1439073Motherfucker, Clinton is still alive. Shut the fuck up with that stupid dismissal.
>>1439113LMAO and now the Supreme Court is fascist? Y'know when I said you people think everything is fascist I was kinda joking, but now I'm not so sure it was a joke.
>>1439121>REEEEEE IT'S NOT FAIR CLINTON GOT IMPEACHED FOR LYING UNDER OATH AND TRUMP DIDN'T GET IMPEACHED FOR NOT LYING UNDER OATH REEEEEEEEEE
>>1439102my bad i assumed you were a leftist and meant the antifa part ironically. sorry bout that I just woke up and a bit autistic
>>1439120Who quote, retard?
>>1439130The people calling Kirk a fascist, retard.
>>1439132Don't wave you strawman at me, retard, I'm not interested.
>>1439102srry bout that,
>>1439103If it gets funding, if its used as an identity, if its a dogwhistle its a organization. Gangs do the same thing even though they're loosely affiliated just for the name status. You're a stupid ass terrorist that's going to rot in jail.
>>1439137Stop calling everything you don't like fascism, retard. It'll save lives.
>>1439141you guys pretty much admitted you're fascists already after the whole charlie kirk thing
>>1439143Who quote, retard?
>>1439141I'm going to keep calling fascism fascism because words have meaning.
>>1439145>who quoteoh, that's right, you're an esl shill pretending to be a republican. but nobody is going to forget your argument "the shooter couldn't be rightwing because he disliked fascism", which is just admitting you're fascists with extra steps
>>1439112Do you even know what a copypasta is or are you new here? Because a unique post isn't a copypasta
>>1439151>Do you even know what a copypasta is>>1438370>Let me just knock out this copy-pasta
>>1439155Lol. Quoting oneself is not a copypasta tardmaxxer
>>1439149>oh, that's right, you're an esl shill>>1439130Retard.
>>1439147Okay but I need you to stop calling non-fascist people, places and things fascist like you keep doing. Step 1: Stop calling Charlie Kirk a fascist.
>>1439104>The 90s didn't have political division anywhere near what we have today.But it did, zoomzoom, Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh ensured it.
>>1439159Yeah I was alive back then, Chief, and I'm pretty sure we didn't have people getting shot in the streets because they vote Republican.
>>1439147ok so you got enough money to pay for all those defamation cases? Cause ur gonna have to pay us since you just slandered us.
>>1439156>quotes self and calls it a copypasta>"Spare me the copypasta.">'lol that's not a copypasta tardmaxxer'Incredible. >>1439157The difference is that >>1439130 was responding to someone actually greentexting someone, you ESL dipshit.
>>1439160so you're a middle-aged shill? what a fucking loser
>>1439162>The difference is that >>1439130 was responding to someone actually greentexting someone, you ESL dipshit.Good for him, defender of dipshit ESLs. Since you want to speak for him so badly maybe you could answer my question - which was done using his broken English that has you upset enough to white knight for him - of where did me and other admitted we're fascists:>you guys pretty much admitted you're fascists already after the whole charlie kirk thing
>>1439123Yeah. Its not up for debate. The supreme court is compromised. They write literal trash opinions to give Trump wins. They're openly fascist. Sorry you're too stupid to comprehend that. Or acting like you're American when you're not. The first thing to do once the pendulum turns is to address that Trump's appointments shouldn't count.>>1439124Trump got impeached twice already. You can try to wojack me all you want but he's up Clinton one in that department, sweetie.
There are idiots in here still sucking Trump's dick after the tariffs? Really?
>>1439160>Charlie Kirk got shot in the street!What kind of drugs are you on?
>>1439169Don't forget Putin has doubled the dataforce>>1438567
>>1439167>Its not up for debate.Yes it is. Just because you're seething over an office that has Republicans in it doesn't mean it's fascist. Try not to burn anything down in your anger.
>>1439173What burned down before? >inb4 whole cities
>>1439171>Charlie Kirk was the only person shot by the leftI'd ask you the same question there, guy.
>>1439169there are still democrat dick suckers after they got a moderate killed because they couldn't debate him?really?!!!
>>1439162>quotes self and calls it a copypasta>"Spare me the copypasta.">'lol that's not a copypasta tardmaxxerI'm really trying to understand this post. I think you are fallaciously assuming I was the person who quoted that long free text, the disputed "copypasta".
>>1439174Isn't that your coping mechanism? To throw molotovs into small business? Your kind does do that a lot when you're angry.
>>1438721Yes
>>1439180throwing vyacheslav molotov would be quite a feat, but getting him to collaborate with nazis would be much easier. isn't that right, russia shill?
>>1439184Can somebody else here translate what the fuck this ESL bot said?
>>1439180You people tried to kill Mike Pence.>>1439176A MAGA killed Charlie Kirk. And who gives a shit. He was a podcaster.
>>1439186nice try, i love when you copy me, but all you've done is further expose your eslness
>>1439172It really continues to baffle the mind how this has to be the dumbest way to topple an empire. But its working.
>>1439190it makes sense, americans have only been getting dumber for the last half a century, it's the most exploitable aspect of our existence. and the internet didn't exist until very recently
>>1439179>I'm really trying to understand this post.I'm sure that must be very hard for you.I'm calling >>1438370 a copypasta because >>1438370 called it a copypasta. If you want to lecture someone on what is and isn't a copypasta, then do it to >>1438370.
>>1439187Jimmy kimmel was deplatformed for spreading that lie FCC is looking into ABC and disney now as well. so keep lying do it please go on you'll be next
>>1439198He literally didn't even say that.
>>1439199he did and your lies won't work, you are going to suffer for being a liar.
>>1439201if liars are going to suffer, i sure wouldn't want to be you
>>1439202funny words coming from a jimmy kimmel terrorist stan
>>1439198>>1439201Jimmy Kimmel was deplatformed for saying that MAGA is desperately trying to make people think Kirk's shooter wasn't right-wing. He didn't say that the shooter WAS right-wing, just that MAGA is insisting that he's not. Which is objectively true. It was happening right here on /news/. Stop fucking lying. Stop fucking lying while calling other people liars.
>>1439204i literally have never watched an episode. your shill training should really be more extensive
>>1439199NTA, he said the shooter was MAGA. This is a lie.
>>1439205nice semantics, you're a pathetic liar and no one with a brain accepts that stupid reasoning. terrorist>>1439206You're objectively a terrorist though and you objectively defended him therefore you are both.
>>1439205>In his show's opening monologue on Sept. 15, Kimmel said supporters of President Donald Trump were "desperately trying to characterize" Tyler Robinson, the 22-year-old charged in Kirk's murder, as "anything other than one of them." Dude, he said it into a camera. Idk why you would misrepresent this shit. Its so easy to disprove what you're saying.
>>1439208i don't give a fuck about any late night shows, except for the band on fallon but that's for artistic reasons. you suck at your job shill
>>1439205>Kimmel said the "Maga gang" was "desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them" and of trying to "score political points from it". >he didn't say the shooter was maga he just said they were desperate to say he wasn't maga.democrat terrorist gaslighting 101 right here literal subhuman logic.This is why no one trusts democrats anymore, they're such pathetic losers lying out of their asses>>1439210did you or did you not defend jimmy kimmel.Yes you did,are you a terrorist or terrorist adjacent for defending a terroristyes you arefinito.
>>1439209Yeah so, literally what anon said. At no point does he say the shooter was MAGA, just that MAGA is desperate to deny any connection.
>>1439215This is ridiculous. His words are right there. What the fuck.
>>1439215>"as anything other then one of them"did you fail critical logic classes or just actually that dense?its obvious what he said and meant.
>>1439213i just said i don't give a fuck about jimmy kimmel, shill. you really are esl
>>1439199>>1439205>We hit some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from.
>>1439207According to whom?
>>1439208>semanticsBasic English, actually. He did not say the things you say he said. The words he used do not mean what you say they do. Stop fucking lying.>>1439209That's exactly what I just said, you idiot. Jesus christ, is there where we're at? Someone says something, MAGA hears them say the thing, and they just think it means something completely different?
>>1439221english isn't your strong suit, huh
>>1439224There is no way you're serious about this. This is bait. A ruse.
>>1439224>Kimmel said the "Maga gang" was "desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them" and of trying to "score political points from it". Its obvious he's saying they're maga.you're actually a retard trying to gaslight people stop being a lying piece of shit though i guess that's hard for a far-left democrat terrorist
>>1439229nah, you just don't know how our language works. feel free to spam your wrong opinion more though
>>1439233you failed english class huh its pathetic why are leftists always uneducated stupid nepobabies
>>1439231Post the actual quote instead of your fuckass summary.
>>1439233What's the purpose of this behavior? We have what he said right infront of us. People can read it and its obvious what he said and meant. Why deny basic, verifiable reality? It makes you look deranaged.
Dictator declares opposition terrorists... well, duh.
>>1439236good luck trying to flip this on me esl shill. how long until your next typo? we're all going to laugh at it
>>1439240that's george soros.>>1439241I don't need to you've proven you're an illiterate gaslighting lying moron.
>>1439243and u mad
>>1439243I wasn't aware that Soros ran for puppet resident.
>>1439229Completely serious. >>1439231No, it's not. No, he wasn't. >you're actually a retard trying to gaslight people stop being a lying piece of shitThat is literally what you are doing at this very moment.
>>1439225lol that's a direct quote from Kimmel.
>>1439237>Post the actual quote>We hit some new lows over the weekend, with the MAGA gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them, and doing everything they can to score political points from.
>>1439250>post what Kimmel said >that's a lie! ??????
>>1439254>>1439254and somehow you don't understand it
Trump would collect and murder children, if he knew the prophecy against him... thankfully, he is so good at chess. I kind of can't wait until the pro-lifers are screaming for abortions to protect their messiah. Very Abrahamic but for for the wrong side, they're already par for the course. Yam tits would appreciate the golf reference.
The hypocrisy shreds their souls, most don't have any soul left already. Hollow husks, plenty of room for malevolent spirits.
>>1439257You are lying about what the quote says, yes. Which is fucking amazing, it's right there, you posted it, but here we are.
>>1439249The funny thing is he retired 3 years ago, but they still use him as a boogeyman because they don't read actual news stories.
>>1439258>calls people ESL>has to delete and repost what he saidLOL
>>1439264Magats will be the army of worms that fails suddenly and embarrassingly for the false king.
>>1439266How am I lying? Did I add words? Did I subtract words?
A reminder that the United States of America is 28x larger than Germany.
>>1439268this you? >>1439130
>>1439269Trump isn't a boogeyman, he is like making a whore your wife. Maybe he is the Whore of Babylon... America, like Babylon have more laws protecting the rich and their property than protecting people... I can see a spiritual link. The world will cry but America will stil be no more. America First... to fall.
>>1439270You're saying he said that the shooter was MAGA. He didn't.>>1439274No, that's me.
>>1439276Brown.
>>1439217Hmmm, seems like this was more a reference to them trying desperately to insist was (in order) trans, a minority, and then a leftist.
>>1439198>IF THE SHOOTER IS LIBERAL, THEN WE MUST BRING OUT THE DEATH PENALTY>oh its a misunderstood christian white boy from a christian family we must pray for jesus to save his soul :(I swear to God I am so tired of the gaslighting. Its obvious, blatant, and you convince yourself that anybody fell for it.
>>1439277> "desperately trying to characterise this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them"
>>1439274>this you? >>1439130No.
>>1439282do you know the definition of insanity
>>1439282That doesn't say that the shooter was MAGA. >>1439280That tragic thing is that some people do. I mean, probably not this gaslighting here on /news/, I think most people here already know where they stand, but elsewhere? Sure.
Say copium without saying copium.Drug and alcohol use is up among Republicans.
>>1438619Sounds like canceling people on the basis of being a Nazi whether they are or not
>>1439279t. groyper with a tranny girlfriend
>>1439292Yeah, getting banned off Twitter is basically the same as getting arrested. No difference really.
>>1439294Not him, the real difference is one has already happened and the other hasn't.
All I wanted was to go to a fucking doctor without it being chained to a job. How the fuck did the country fail to comprehend that was possible and fall for the same bullshit six times in a row and trip into a dictatorship? How are people this fucking stupid?
>>1439315This is the end result of years, decades of declining education, anti-intellectualism, and exceptionalism. It's by design, to a degree, but for the most part we dug our own grave.
>>1439318omg im so DemOraLiZed
>>1439315somehow it's all andrew johnson's fault
>>1439318unironically quite insightful
>>1438710You really think no one on the right celebrated it? Kirk was a massive Israel shill, the right hates Israel. I mean the actual right, not the neutered cult that MAGA is
>>1438366Good, fuck ANTIFA. Now designate losers like Just Stop Oil, Proud Boys, Patriot Prayer, and any other extremist organizations out there. Bunch of fucking losers.
>>1439558Show me.
>>1438587>Antifa is a loosely organized ideological movement without a clear leadership structure or hierarchy, experts said.>has their own Antifa merch for sale
>>1439582i mean, anyone can sell a maga hat (inevitably made in china), and i see a lot of those, i've never seen one antifa hat.
>>1439672Is MAGA an organization or an idea?
>>1439559>Yeah, fuck that thing I've never seen and can't prove exists and has zero impact on my life!Republicans truly will be the end of us
>>1439582So, essentially, the definition of being in ANTIFA is having a screen printer?
>>1439733It's one of many examples how organized this "not-an-organization" is.
>>1439735I don't understand. If a a random person decides "Hey, I'm gonna open an ETSY shop and sell ANTIFA merch" then they spend a few hundred dollars to get some hats and shirts printed how is this evidence of organization? What organization is required for someone to put letters on a hat and sell it? You're not connecting the dots here.
>>1439733They're right. I'm a diehard MAGA. Not because I vote republican or support Trump, but because I sling cheap 'Remember Charlie' shirts to rubes for a hefty profit. I've voted straight ticket Democrat for the last 10 years too. Still MAGA!
>>1439582So if "they" have their own merch could you link us to like the official ANTIFA shop or whatever? Surely you have actual evidence of some kind of central organization and not just random TeeSpring accounts that sell ACAB shirts.
>>1439737>I don't understand.No you absolutely do but can't admit that Antifa is an organization because you defend the shit they do. Which is why you'll argue against every single point that gets brought up showing them acting like an organization, whether it's selling tshirts, passing out flyers, attending meetings, driving people from one riot to another, or killing the opposition.
>>1439737Yeah its not an organization. These people arrive at the same place at the same time wearing the same thing and use coherent tactics purely by chance. Each black bloc is a miracle of randomness.
>shill hasn't even proven that Antifa is selling tshirtslmao, foreign bot detected
>>1439743It doesn't require a central organization to be a thing. The KKK never had a central organization. They didnt even have a uniform until the 1920's.
>>1439748>Yeah its not an organization. Correct.>These people arrive at the same place at the same time wearing the same thing and use coherent tactics purely by chance.So does anybody who likes a sports team, anon. I guess Patriots fans are an "organization" now because they all show up to the stadium wearing the same jersey and chant song? See how nonsense this argument is?>>1439751>It doesn't require a central organization to be a thing.I don't know what "a thing" is. What is the definition of "a thing"?>>1439745So, in conclusion, you can't answer the question. You can't explain to me in any logical way how someone deciding to sell t-shirts of their own accord is an example of organization.
>>1439751>The KKK never had a central organization. They didnt even have a uniform until the 1920's.Its not you being wrong that's so bizarre, its just your confidence. The KKK 100% had a central organization. They had ranks for fuck's sake. How are you making this argument and you have no clue what you're talking about?
>>1439760>So does anybody who likes a sports team, anon. I guess Patriots fans are an "organization" now because they all show up to the stadium wearing the same jersey and chant song?Yes.
>>1439762>The KKK 100% had a central organization. They had ranks for fuck's sake. How are you making this argument and you have no clue what you're talking about?"Central organization" is the term I used. The KKK was a collection of unassociated groups. There was no Grand Wizard presiding over all chapters. No governing body.
>>1439760>So, in conclusion, you can't answer the question. You can't explain to me in any logical way how someone deciding to sell t-shirts of their own accord is an example of organization.It's one of many, many, many examples of this "not-an-organization", nebulous blob of people act in an organized fashion (pun intended). A bunch of guys wearing the same uniform, going to the same place, at the same time, to commit the same crimes we keep seeing everytime they're involved? It's almost as if it's an organization! Like a gang with it's own rules of conduct, symbols, known associates, etc.
>>1439760>I guess Patriots fans are an "organization" now because they all show up to the stadium wearing the same jersey and chant song?A group of people who via decentralized means arrange to meet at the same time and same place to perform a collective task is an organization yes - because those act specifically require the organization of human. A lack of top-down organization does not mean that there is no organization.
>>1439763>Yes.Ok, then you and I have vastly different definitions of what an organization is. >>1439765>"Central organization" is the term I used. The KKK was a collection of unassociated groups. There was no Grand Wizard presiding over all chapters.Ok, so to correct, the KKK had dozens of chapters throughout the country operating independently but all wearing the same exact uniforms, following the same rules, espousing the same values, using the same ranking system to elect leadership and operating in concert to achieve a common goal but they weren't a "central organization". Your argument is purely semantics at this point and I have no clue why you've decided to die on such a stupid hill.
>>1439778NTA, but your argument is all semanticsThere's no 'chapters' of Antifa across teh countryBut any American can probably tell you David Duke was the Grand Wizard of the KKK
>>1439778>all wearing the same exact uniformsNope. >following the same rulesNope. >espousing the same valuesNope. Some were anti-black. Some Yankee and Midwest Chapters were anti-Jew and anti-Catholic and not so anti-black. > using the same ranking system to elect leadershipNope. It was completely made up and random.
>>1439782>>all wearing the same exact uniformsI want the shill retard to define the Antifa uniform
>>1439783Head to toe in black with select imagery emblazoned on it.
>>1439785Don't forget the the neon tranny hair
>>1439785So, this is Antifa? https://www.wearethemighty.com/entertainment/undefeated-army-black-knights-honor-101st-airborne-with-army-navy-game-uniform/
>>1439788>Is my post relevant?No. I wonder if I can call your Internet provider and convince them to charge you for every wasted byte of Internets.
>>1439787But Antifa usually covers their hair, so how about a neon helmet? https://www.prideofdetroit.com/2024/4/19/24134734/detroit-lions-2024-uniform-release-fan-approval-pollIts more football uniforms though. I didn't know the Detroit Lions and the Navy Football team were Antifa, but you learn more retarded shit from foreign shills every day!
>>1439791>claims Antifa uniform is 'Head to toe in black with select imagery emblazoned on it.'>provide image of someone head to toe in black with select imagery emblazoned on their outfit>NOOOOO NOT LIKE THATPlease describe the Antifa uniform then
>>1439783How about I just show you instead.https://www.inquirer.com/resizer/7L9A0ifonc2MnRLIso_7bwuro8o=/1200x0/center/middle/www.inquirer.com/resizer/INQ98V7iz-dXqkddNfEgYVLv-4M=/1200x0/center/middle/arc-anglerfish-arc2-prod-pmn.s3.amazonaws.com/public/T33T6KRASFCF3D4K3UOH2SOAWA.jpghttps://a57.foxnews.com/static.foxnews.com/foxnews.com/content/uploads/2019/02/640/320/portland-antifa.jpg?ve=1&tl=1https://thehill.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/08/antifa_unitetheright2_altright_081218am_lead.jpg?w=1280https://sanangelolive.com/sites/default/files/inline-images/leftists.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/SvR1TKy6LmI/maxresdefault.jpghttps://slaynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/05/antifa-college-campus-blm-riots.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/9eDDlv1Hj18/maxresdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/mGwcFqoVcGY/maxresdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/ecUpWUAIFKE/maxresdefault.jpghttps://i.ytimg.com/vi/Ly4p6rdPGso/maxresdefault.jpg>Now remember guys, if they ask us we're not an organization.
>>1439794So you're admitting, after providing evidence, that there's no antifa uniform? Thanks for your concession
>>1439785>Head to toe in black with select imagery emblazoned on it.More Antifa: https://static01.nyt.com/images/2020/06/04/briefing/04dc-noname-pm-briefing-us-ss-slide-VZ3Z-copy/04pm-briefing-us-ss-slide-VZ3Z-superJumbo.jpg?quality=75&auto=webp
>>1439795Apparently there's no organization at all. Just one big coincidence that multiple people are showing up in multiple locations on multiple days wearing the same exact thing. This is why nobody takes the left seriously.
>>1439795>https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SvR1TKy6LmI/maxresdefault.jpgThis isn't a uniform? Define uniform.
>>1439799>wearing the same exact thing.You might have a point if any of those two images involved people wearing the exact same thing, but they don't, and you don'tYou have a bunch of images though, do you want another crack at defining the Antifa uniform? You have plenty of examples, but apparently you can't express your ideas in English? Do you have problems expressing yourself in English?
>>1439799Well, we lie, so trust us to run your country.
>>1439801>but its not an organization I literally do not care. They must be crushed. Simple as. Any act of political violence in a democracy is an attack on democracy itself.
>>1439803>tilted shill falseflagginglmao
>>1439801>You might have a point if any of those two images involved people wearing the exact same thing, but they don't,>https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SvR1TKy6LmI/maxresdefault.jpg>These people are not wearing the exact same thing.Anon you might want to get your vision checked.
>>1439806>Any act of political violence in a democracy is an attack on democracy itself.LMAO, the party of Jan 6th thinks it should destroy itself
>>1439808>>if any of those two images>one image providedSo you do have problems expressing yourself in English?
>>1439810Anyone who committed an act of violence on J6 should be in jail. Every person who has ever participated in a black bloc should also be in jail. Simple. As.
>>1439793That was another anon, anon. I just thought your post was a waste of space and you should be financially impacted negatively for it.IMO, the Antifa uniform is:Black and gay, just like your dad, and usually has some communist logos.But there is no uniform per se. It's more a style of dress, because broke ass communists can't afford uniforms.What's shocking is that you are really pushing the "They can't be an organization, THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE A UNIFORM!!!" shit.Just fuck off.
>>1439812Oh look. Rose City Antifa even has their own website - Another sign that they're not an organization. >https://rosecityantifa.org/about/>What is black bloc/why do you wear all black?>Black bloc is a tactic where large groups of people wear all black to conceal their features. This helps us stay anonymous, reduce the risk of state repression, and demonstrate group solidarity. You can read more about black bloc here: https://crimethinc.com/2003/11/20/blocs-black-and-otherwiseYup. No organization at all. Nothing to see here!
>>1439814>the Antifa uniform is:>there is no uniform You really posted this.Being a shill must be hard :(
>>1439817So you have problems expressing yourself in English, and can't define the antifa uniform still? I just want to make sure you're BTFO on this point before engaging with the goalposts you moved
>>1439819No shilling is required. We're not advocating something, we're not trying to convince you. POTUS has made his decision. You just have to deal with it.
>>1439822No I'm just simply not putting up with your bullshit requirement of having two different pictures when you can clearly see similarities between different chapters, with Antifa organizations in Rosy City, Phoenix, etc. having perfectly identical uniforms for their city groups. Cope all you want, that's the uniform they wear which is more evidence of them being an organization.
>>1439826Which includes cops, the Detroit Lions, and the Navy football team?
>>1439829Or the Red Cross, ACLU, Habitat for Humanity, etc.
>>1439823>POTUS has made his decision.Lmao what decision? Motherfucker can't even lawfully implement this shit. That's not a decision, that's just grandstanding.
>>1439725It's a cult.
>>1439877But wait I thought Trump was a dictator that did whatever he wanted and used his powers illegally.
>>1438396Socialism IS a terrorist ideology, socialist organizations are terrorist organizations. If you're not for private property you need to get the fuck out of our capitalist, property-rights-based civilizations and fuck off somewhere else. You are not welcome here.
>>1439883I appreciate the honesty, you fucking freak.
>>1439880They said can't lawfully, not can't. You aren't really catching them in a gotcha.
Dems have the weather machine still.The Storm is coming.
Isn't antifacism an extremely broad term? Doesn't any ideology that opposes to facism technically fall under it
Just a year ago, when nobody gave shit to antifacist ideology, there were only small but humle organizations that defined what facism is and advocated peaceful but correct way to fight against it.But now bunch of left wing extremists have stolen the term and ruined the spirit of antifacism and it's quite depressing.
>>1438366Trump claims antifa is a terrorist organization, and an organization at all, while his pet DoJ quietly deletes studies showing that terrorists are most often ring wing. You can't make this shit up.
>>1439987the studies you pretend to have read literally classify antia smearing swassticas and muslims raping children as right wing crimes they are a worthless lie literally and cooked to protect leftwing terrorists and everyone even you knows it
>>1439883You are someone's property, slave. You aren't even free enough to have your own thoughts.
>>1440024This thread has proven you freaks are really, really bad at identifying what "antia" even is, and there's nothing in the rules that says muslims can't be right-wing, so eat shit with your worthless lies.
>>1440024>islamists aren't right wing because they want the wrong kind of Abrahamic theocracylmao
For nostalgic reasons... who here remembers "Release the Kraken"What ever happened to Dominion? Oh yeah, won big lawsuits. Could even be said Yuge lawsuits.
Germany and Canada fund communist terrorists (ANTIFA) that commit acts of violence against the civilian population for political goals (terrorism) in the interior of the United States of America.The US Military should start bombing operations against German and Canadian government buildings in a "proportional" retaliation.
>>1441131Russian shill or really dumb maga
