>Bharatbros...
>Modisisters...
>Brahminchads...
>Is it over?

>>1439684
I can come to Canada for free, why would I want to come to a banana Republic like the United States and have to pay for it

>>1439704
Enjoy Canada then, I guess.

>>1439704
thats the goal

>>1439704
Yeah, and?

When times get tough Trump will let you bang Melania for a sandwich too. Everything has a price to a businessman.

>>1439704
That's the question everyone is asking themselves - why the fuck would I bother going to the U.S. when I could just skip the possible getting black bagged by ICE and go somewhere else? Thus why developed countries are slapping us with travel warnings and skilled labor is jumping ship as fast as possible. We'll really feel the pain in about 10 years or so but Trump is owning the libs so I guess everyone is okay with it.

>>1439731
>and skilled labor is jumping ship as fast as possible.
Oh no! How will I live without my pajeet coder and Hamas-supporting vet techs? Give that job to an American? What a fucking nightmare!

>>1439734
>Give that job to an American?
With what training? A lot of H1-B visa workers are trained on specialized equipment at foreign facilities.

I somehow doubt companies and countries are going to be eager to import American workers to their facilities abroad, train them there, and then send them back. That's a lot of dicking around for minimal gain.

But fortunately skilled workers don't provide value to companies or help create jobs around them. Wait.

>>1439754
>>Give that job to an American?
>With what training?
Is that a serious question?

>>1439754
>we need h1b1 workers trained to operate foreign equipment in foreign countries
>in America
wut

>>1439756
its a malding pajeet.

>>1439734
>>1439756
>>1439758
The issue is you have no clue what you're talking about. You don't know anything about the H1-B VISA program. You don't know how many are here, you don't know how many we need, you don't know what industries they need them in or why. You dislike brown people and this H1B thing is just your vehicle to express it. There's no other reason you'd build such a strong opinion about a topic you know nothing about.

>>1439767
Nope.

>>1439767
>The issue is you have no clue what you're talking about.
Oh this should be good. Can't wait to see you not dodge the question and explain why an American can't be trained on American equipment, procedures, and so on but a foreigner can.

Shieeet we don't have colleges in the US. Trade programs? Guilds? What the fuck are those?

>You don't know anything about blah blah blah
>You dislike brown people
And there we go. No argument beyond U RACIST. I don't know why I'm so disappointed when I expected nothing.

>>1439721
Thanks for fucking off, faggot.

>>1439767
No, you have no idea what you're talking about.
>Be me
>Graduate high school with A's and B's
>Get associates degree
>Look for job
>Can't find job because they're full of Hamas-loving foreigners
>Resort to doing barely-above-minimum-wage shift work
>Haven't been able to escape past five years
I did everything right. I'm smart and hardworking and there are no jobs available. Who's to blame if not the foreigners taking our jobs? There used to be jobs before Obama opened the border.

>But immigrants create jobs!!!
No. They take jobs. If you move here, and you take a job, you are stealing it by definition.

>>1439781
Exactly. Immigration is a slap in the face for free market principles.
>Socialists obstruct border enforcement, allowing in illegal immigrants
>The immigrants want handouts
>Socialists want to steal more elections
>The socialists give them kushy jobs as handouts for the measley price of having them work as mules in elections (and chopping a few genitals off)

>>1439796
Actually it isn't. Free market capitalism and neo liberal capital want cheaper labor. Supply and demand dictate the price of labor. So immigration is preferable from a free market stand point.
The false dichotomy of Free Market versus Gommunist slavery s deeply engrained in the minds of many as the only options.
100% free market leads to just as much tragedy as being enslaved to a communist governemnt.
Regulations and protections are desirable. However we keep getting more and more taxicab medallions instead of regulations designed to help the population at large.

>>1439802
>Immigration is preferable from a free market perspective
Did you even read my post? Immigration is anti-free market. That's why communists all want it. The free market is all about supply and demand and laissez faire. Communism is all about the government controlling things. Let's take this point by point:

>Supply and demand
There is no demand for foreign labor. Actual Americans want our country to stay pure-blooded. There is a supply, sure, but no legitimate demand; only the demand of the Socialists.

>Laissez-faire
Any government action violates laissez-faire, and brings us closer to communism. That's why Trump is trying to shutter the education department, the consumer financial protection bureau, and reducing the number of people on Medicaid.

You're close to the mark on your point about taxi medallions. There again, the government is restraining people and the economy with regulations.

The problem is immigration can only be done by the government. The poor third-worlders getting h1 visas are doing so at the government's expense. Stopping immigration is a way of making the government do less, therefore reducing communism.

>>1439683
You can start with that which is the dumbhead of the FBI that is true to his name - Krash - Trump.
Gee, I wonder who appointed him to that post, in turn voted in by so many rightards...?!

>>1439820
>Did you even read my post? Immigration is anti-free market.
No it's exceptionally free market, my post was intended to point out that a free market isn't always right.
A well regulated semi-free market focused on it's citizen's well-being is the best way to go.

>>1439824
Why do your posts always appear so psychotic and unhinged in nature?
It's probably the use of "that which" that gives the appearance of mental illness. Is American your first language or are you a foreign savage from the outlands?

>>1439835
outlands? americans don't get this reference, unless it's some nerd shit i guess. nta

>>1439834
You're replying to a retard who claims there's no demand for foreign labor in a thread about creating an extra fee to discourage foreign labor
In short you can ignore everything that lying shill says, just hide their posts

>>1439838
Saucy. There's no demand for foreign labor from the general populace, that's for sure.
There's plenty from billionaires looking to save a buck though.

>>1439836
What?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/outland
It's not a fucking reference to anything but the word "Outland" in plural.

>>1439842
no american i've ever met uses the term, but hey, you gotta learn somehow shill

>>1439843
Text is a funny thing, you're free to type things you might not verbalize.
That which is a sociopathic terrorist is calling someone a shill again
How do I do a useless and stupid spoiler tag again? Nevermind I don't give a fuck anymore. I'm just going back to ignoring your horseshit.

>>1439844
and now you're confusing me for the guy who types funny. instead of getting upset when you get called out, do your research next time shill. I could give you some examples of synonyms that wouldn't give you away instantly, but i'm not, since you're throwing a tantrum and i lost any iota of respect for you

>>1439840
Yeah, all those billionaire farmers, construction companies, and other small businesses ICE raided.
Apparently in your world billionaires are the general populace?

>>1439820
>Obvious b8
>>1439840
>Someone unironically agrees
Every time.

>>1439846
To be fair, as a communist my target isn't really billionaires, it's the middle class bourgeoisie. Anyone who owns anything that requires labor must be assailed.
Joking aside, so you're saying billionaires aren't the problem then? What about trillionaire investment firms?

>>1439845
>i lost any iota of respect for you
Finally we're on equal terms.

>>1439854
certainly not in terms of english comprehension

1439853
You're a little too tilted after getting BTFO all day bud
Maybe take a break from shitposting?
Who am I kidding, you can't step away or you won't get paid

>>1439857
You know, I have no idea how to get paid for my shitposting. Someone email me if you have the answer.
I'd love to be a paid shill.

>quality standards

>>1439683
Mass deport pajeets. They're not sending heir "best ad brightest" when it's by the millions. You import the third world? You Become the third world!

>>1439796
>Immigration is a slap in the face for free market principles
It's the exact opposite, it's an artificial restriction on capital and free market. You arbitrarily decide to limit the job market to the people within the immediate vicinity to limit capital's ability to maximize profit.

You're also conflating H1B Visas with illegal immigration for no apparent reason.

I don't think either ones qualify for "handouts" and their jobs are never "kushy" copared to what an American would have to do in either case.

>>1439757
Literally yes. That Korean automaking plant Trump just fucking raided with ICE involve South Korean specialists there helping them with shit no fucking American had training on.

>>1439756
Do you think all STEM jobs are interchangeable and somebody trained on fixing a McDonalds ice cream machine and somebody trained on microchip quality control are the same?

Or do you just not think any businesses in America use shit designed overseas?

What level of stupid are you at?

>>1439704
>>1439731
We didn't want you jeets here

>>1439683
Thank goodness for that, Fuck Microsoft, Elon Musk, Vivek Ramaswamy, etc. Piles of dog shit, the lot of them.

>>1439754
>>1439767
Saaars

>>1439890
>We

>>1439870
Without diverse genetics we end up with folks like you.

>>1439912
"Diversity" is a mistake.

>>1439683
Trump has also naturally allowed himself the power to waive these fees for certain companies at his discretion. It's all part of the grift.

>>1439952
>"Diversity" is a mistake
>that which is head of the FBI
>an AG who isn't a man
>both appointed by a thing that deliberately changes its skin color to orange
https://i.postimg.cc/9FGXbkcQ/trump-flag.png
>"Diversity" is a mistake
I completely agree, >>1439952

>>1439952
Your last name is Whitaker, no?

>>1439965
Too illiterate to read hypocrisy on the bottle and just concluding without evidence that it is copium. Sweet,sweet maga tears.

>>1439953
I want to say I didn't know that because this is the first I saw it in words but... I just think 'duh'.

>>1439835
Why is it that the likes of you need to refer to certain posts as 'psychotic and unhinged' when you know you can't counter what is stated in those posts? I know why
1- If you replied to them in any other way you would be BTFO because you can't counter what is said, thus reduced to that retarded 'reply'
>'psychotic and unhinged'
2- One word: Projection

>>1439970
You're right I literally cannot counter the intellectual comment that is as follows:
>You can start with that which is the dumbhead of the FBI that is true to his name - Krash - Trump.
Gee, I wonder who appointed him to that post, in turn voted in by so many rightards...?!
The reason? I'm not an anti-psychotic medication.

>>1439981
>psychotic
Why do you need to refer to certain posts as 'psychotic'? I know why.
1- Those posts are from sane people who refuse to be in lockstep with your wrong opinions. And you don't like that, thus reduced to calling them 'psychotic'
>'psychotic'
2- One word: Projection
>I'm not an anti-psychotic medication
>an
Perhaps you need to be on intellect-enhancing medication when you should have said 'I'm not on anti-psychotic medication'
>You're right I literally cannot counter the intellectual comment
You should have stopped there before you doubled down with your intellectual inferiority with 'I'm not an anti-psychotic medication'
>an
QED.

>>1439991
So, you just woke up for another 16 hour shitposting marathon, huh?
I'll see you in a couple days then.

>>1439994
>another 16 hour shitposting marathon
>shitposting
>>1439835
>psychotic and unhinged
>>1439981
>psychotic
>>1439994
>shitposting
One word: Projection

>>1439912
I met this really nice Indian girl in college but then she dropped out and was shipped back to India to marry her cousin. I don't believe she had any say in the matter.

>>1439999
It isn't a racial thing... her family must have had money. The wealthy Americans do the same, all the wealthy do, not just America or India. Elites love incest, keeps the wealth in the family.

>>1439683
They will just hire overseas more. He knows that's what going to happen, and he isn't doing anything about that. This is just for political points.

>>1440013
>They will just hire overseas more.
Fine by me.

>>1440013
Yeah you fags always find some stupid cope.
Small businesses don't hire h1b visas so we can ignore those.
Medium business is due, but they aren't going to have overseas offices and aren't going to have the capital to open one just to avoid hiring Americans
Large businesses definitely do, and they can get away with this for certain jobs like idk accounting or finance, But for Hi-Tech employers like Amazon Google etc, A lot of the software they write is considered export controlled, anything that uses strong encryption, AIML, high performance compute, all of that is considered export control and opening an office in India and letting people develop it there is considered an export under US law and has to be cleared with the US state department.
Job roles that require physical locality like network engineering are also not eligible for offshoring.

In short, the only jobs that will be offshored are the exact same jobs that have already been offshored, and the reason large employers can't offshore certain jobs and choose to use h1b visas is generally because they either logistically or legally cannot offshore the role to another country

I'm glad those Mexicans are gone now I can get good seasonal work picking cotton and mowing lawns.

>>1440020
> Illegal Mexicans used for crop picking actually had h1b visas and this affects them
Shut the fuck up you retardmaxxer

I am a brown american, and I don't support brown forigners in my country. Simple as.

>>1439790
>There used to be jobs before Obama opened the border
You got As and Bs in highs chool then got a college degree yet still couldn't get a job over border crosser? The problem is you.

>>1440039
>You got As and Bs in highs chool then got a college degree yet still couldn't get a job over border crosser? The problem is you.
No, the problem is that H1B1 workers will do that same job for significantly lower wages and, because their visa is 100% dependent on keeping their job, they will accept demands from employers that ordinary Americans will not.

>>1440051
Because Americans would prefer to live in the street and starve rather than work a shit job or take a shit wage?

>>1440052
wut?

H1B1 visas are generally awarded to middle class jobs. The complaint is that they drive down middle class wages and artificially inflate competition and housing prices.

>>1440022
Illegal Mexicans can only be gang members and rapists. You can't work without a ssn or work visa.

>>1440054
>You can't work without a ssn or work visa.
Illegals have stolen approximately 39 million SSN's.

>>1440053
This won't change. Trump is just trying to increase his profits at the slave market.

Neigh, says the cow
Whoo, says the owl
Oink, says the pig

Cheap human bodies, if you can afford the admission fee.

>>1440055
and the government can't find them? Do they not have phones? Or doesn't want to find them?

>>1440056
>This won't change.
The new change is definitely, without a doubt going to change this. About 90% of H1B1 jobs will no longer be eligible of H1B1 visas.

>the number of initial H-1B visas issued each fiscal year is capped at 65,000, with an additional 20,000 visas available for individuals who have earned a master's degree or higher from a U.S. institution, for a total of 85,000
Congratulations MAGA. You're giving 85k jobs to progressives (those with Bachelor degrees lean dem) every year.

>>1440063
More than happy to improve the quality of life of middle-class Americans, regardless of who they vote for.

>>1440059
Trump just helped Democrats more than Republicans.

>>1440065
Trump just helped middle-class Americans. Who they vote for doesn't matter.

>>1440064
You realize that 85k is not a lot right? The fact of the matter is that these industries are not overstaffed either.

>https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/fact-sheet/h1b-visa-program-fact-sheet/
>That is why unemployment rates are relatively low in occupations that employ large numbers of H-1B workers.

Generally, the more education you have, the more likely you already have work:

>https://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat07.htm
>Unemployment rate (Includes persons with bachelor`s, master`s, professional, and doctoral degrees.): 2.3%

>>1440066
Help with ulterior motives isn't help. It is called disguise.

>>1440067
Its about wages not unemployment rates.

>>1440068
I dont care. Its good for the middle-class, end of story.

>>1440067
There are over 300,000 H1B1 holders in the united states, their average salary is $108,000.

This new rule is going to result in a massive decrease in H1B visas.

Soon everyone will accept the chip in exchange for their soul so they may buy and sell. Muhahahahaha.

>NVidia invests heavily in Vietnam before last year: certainly before US elections
>CEO of NVidia Jensen Huang - in an interview at Windsor Castle during Trump visiting King Charles III, with other business billionaires from US there - says that NVidia will build the largest GPU-based supercomputer in UK, for running advanced AI & research
>Huang says UK has highly educated people from universities such as Oxford, Cambridge etc that NVidia is willing to employ
Gee, I wonder why?

>>1440069
>>1440070
>its about wages not unemployment rates.
There are 63 million people working with college degrees. Getting rid of 300k workers is less than 5% of all jobs and there are just aren't people in positions to fill them.

>>1440073
>what is supply and demand
Its. About. Wages.

>>1440019
> opening an office in India
Most companies just contract the work out to Wipro, Infosys, etc. They don't need to open an office there.

> Amazon Google etc, A lot of the software they write is considered export controlled
Most of the software they write is CRUD apps. At most they use TLS, which is mass market encryption. There's no need for export control.

> network engineering are also not eligible for offshoring
You only need one NW engineer at the DC to pull cables and replace switches. And even that happens rarely. Once things are setup, everything is managed remotely.

More jobs will be moved offshore because of this.

>>1440076
>More jobs will be moved offshore because of this.
I'm okay with this.

>>1440074
>low unemployment rates in these occupations from 2004 through 2022 (even during the COVID-19 pandemic) indicate that demand for labor exceeded the supply
If you need 20 people to work on a farm to pick apples and only have 19, firing one doesn't increase the salary for the all of the other workers. If anything, the missing persons means the farm makes less money and will pay them less to make ends meet.

>>1440078
>supply and demand doesn't apply because... uhhh...
Smaller labor pool means employers have to compete for workers, which means better pay and benefits.

>pajeets crashing out so hard they have two (2) threads up
lmao. Should have behaved yourselves at Costco.

>>1440080
>if we kill half the population think about how rich the other half of the population would be!
Labour is a cost of business retard. If labour costs more, there is less demand for it. If it costs $20 to hire apple pickers instead of $10: I hire less apple pickers, make less money and can't put my money back into the business to grow, and less people are employed.

>>1440086
Yes. You mechanize, the remaining (American) workers get higher wages and our country stops getting flooded with randoms from abroad.

Everyone wins.

>>1440080
>Smaller labor pool means employers have to compete for workers, which means better pay and benefits.
Counterpoint: Nobody passes up a job offer in a recession so folks will just apply everywhere and take the first thing to come along, meaning no real competition.

>>1440103
>Lookkit muh hottake!
>You like it?
>I just made it up!
>Vote for the people I support if you want more of this!

>>1440098
Mechanizing means even less jobs. Now I have 5 Apple pickers at $25 and one guy who repairs the machinery.

Imagine grifting in presidential videos all the time while being president. Nothing says greedy and desperate quite like Trump.

>>1440086
Bosses might actually have to do some work finally or go work for someone else. Bye bye, middle-class better figure out how to go up before they go down.

>>1439683
Absurd. H-1Bs usually scientists and educated people, or people looking to become that? They're not even trying to pretend it's about them not sending their best and brightest anymore.