Trumps still going to do the thankless job of saving American jobs. He's fighting back against employers preferring h1b visas to hire low cost foreigners instead of Americans. He will be instituting a $100k for h1b applicationsInbound: leftists will be complaining about trump helping Americans get a jobhttps://www.newsweek.com/h1-b-visa-program-fee-trump-requirements-2132718Trump To Introduce $100k Fee For H-1B Visas: ReportMR. PRESIDENT, Donald J. Trump is planning to add a $100,000 application fee for the H-1B visa program, a White House official confirmed to Newsweek Friday.Trump may sign the proclamation as early as Friday, Bloomberg first reported, citing a White House official.The major H-1B reform would restrict entry under the work visa unless the hefty payment is made. Current fees to register for the visa lottery are $215, with a $780 fee for a Form I-129—a petition for a non-immigrant worker filed by an employer sponsor.The work-based visa, popular with tech companies, has come under increasing scrutiny in 2025 against a backdrop of tougher immigration enforcement by the Trump administration and a simmering anti-immigrant sentiment in the U.S.Trump has been under pressure to act on the H-1B, despite being vocal in his support for the program over the years. The visa, which sees tens of thousands of new and renewed applications each year, has become a focal point for those seeking a more restrictionist approach.The president is set to sign the proclamation later Friday, Bloomberg first reported, with the main change for the H-1B being a new $100,000 fee. Currently, the fee is around $1,000 for an initial application.Another change could be to prevailing wage rules, meaning the amount employers must pay immigrant workers. This is an area critics have frequently pointed to, arguing companies hire foreign workers because they can pay them less.
i love the smell of shills in the morning
>>1439690I don't. You should wash your funk off
>>1439691how could anyone. i figured you'd catch the sarcasm
>>1439692I don't think MAGA understands subtext or sarcasm, those typically come up after they've dropped out of school
>>1439693>>1439692>Right over their headsIf you can't take bantering don't start with it, ass spelunkers
>>1439695>frustrated foreign shill complaining that they don't understand subtext or sarcasm
I can come to Canada for free, why would I want to come to a banana Republic like the United States and have to pay 100k to do it
>well, it looks like the cost of manufacturing in America is higher than the cost of manufacturing elsewhere and passing on the cost of the tariffs>guess we'll hold off on moving manufacturing back to America for now, I'm sure Trumps retarded enough to raise tariffs again when this backfiresSeems like there's truth to Trump deliberately ruining America so he can declare martial law
>>1439687I can't wait until the leftist shills frame this as "racism" and rally against dRumpf yet again to the benefit of billionaires yet again.
esl shill is projecting again
>>1439709Bro they are just going to ignore it and call everyone esl because they are programmed to protray everything trump does as negative despite knowing that there is no logical reason to oppose this
>>1439722this policy is absurd and won't work the way he wants it to, and you're literally a shill
>>1439687>He's fighting back against employers preferring h1b visas to hire low cost foreigners instead of AmericansReminder that his wife was here on a H1H2 visa which did not allow her to earn money while being here. What did she do? She modeled for money.Melania was an illegal immigrant. Thank you for your attention to this matter.
>>1439724Melania had an EB-1 visa you literal retard.
>>1439724>H1H2Wow, is that an H1B visa? Or is this more of that famous leftist "whatabout" I've heard so much of?
>>1439722Imagine being programmed to defend the billionaire president when he slowly destroys the economy and the country.
>>1439841Imagine being program to attack the billionaire president by other billionaires while secretly wishing you were a billionaire, but you've settled on being an communist simply because you won't have to work until everyone realizes they don't have to work so you're forced to work.
>>1439850esl/10
>>1439841I fucking HATE trump for making corporations pay so much money to hire non American workers!!! It INFURIATES ME!!1!
>>1439861luckily for you russians employ shills even though they're not white or american
>>1439862For fucks sake it's been nearly 10 fucking years you've been using the same busted ass script, isn't it time to switch it up?
>>1439865what's that about january 6?
>>1439866Holy fucking pivot. At least you updated you script from something 10 years old to something just 5 years old I guessToo bad you can't stay on topic tho. Typical amongst your kind, really.
>>1439866No one mentioned it. Must be guilt living rent free.
>>1439867>>1439868i was just pretending to be a shill. see if i was on your side i'd obsess over blm right now to change the subject. i'm sure you'll do that later tonight or something tho
>>1439871>I was just pretending to be a shill! Honest!>see if i was on your side i'd obsess over blm right now to change the subject...yet that isn't happening, you shill. In fact, You brought up something totally unrelated again. It's like you literally can't stop doing it
>>1439872you think the shit you get paid to bring up nonstop is unrelated? best believe i'm making fun of you when you bring it up uninvited for the thousand and 1th time
>>1439873>you think the shit you get paid to bring up nonstop is unrelated>get paid toWell there's just the latest in your 1 million and 1 fallacies.Pretty much every single thing you post here is either a lie, completely made up, a conspiracy theory, or (when you're completely BTFO) an insult. I post here on my own time, partly because I enjoy watching you humor me with your obvious mental illness
Employers pay all H-1B fees, btw. This won't stop anyone from applying. It increases the likelihood that H-1Bs go to long-term (six-year) prospects, instead of shorter-term employees, with the fee likely being amortized over that period. It increases the likelihood that companies will want to try and keep the employee after the six-year max (by having them change their visa status), instead of going back to their home country and then reapplying. This is likely less about protecting American jobs and more about protecting American corporate dominance, because it may reduce the likelihood that Chinese & Indians come to work here, learn skills at US companies, and then return home with those skills (to benefit Chinese or Indian companies).
>>1439906Bro there's no guarantee an H1 is going to stick around for 6 years, they are gambling with $100k every time they hire an H1
>>1439906>Do away with H1-B>Mass deport H1-Bs>Make it illegal to employ the ratsProblem solved.
>>1439948Nah it shouldn't be removed, that option should still be there for top employers to recruit top international talent.But the days of using h1b as a way to undercut American job seekers is over.Thanks, trump!
>>1439906Its coupled with a minimum salary requirement of $150,000. Right now there is no minimum salary requirement just a "prevailing wage" requirement. So, even though it wouldnt make sense, technically they could H1B1 a line cook at Denny's and all they have to do is pay him $23 and hour or whatever it is they make. By including the minimum salary of 150K they have cut out 90% of the job sector in America. This is a great idea as it refocuses the H1B1 system on what its supposed to do: recruit top talent with rare skills and not be a vehicle to undercut generic middle-class jobs.
>>1440018sure budYou going out to pick the fields then? $7.50 an hour to bend over in the mud and sun all day long. Hop to it. Tomatoes are rotting.
>>1440028>What about the field pickers!??Unaffected by anything regarding h1b visas. You probably know that and are just trying to come up with a way to complain about trump protecting American jobs.
>>1440029>Unaffected by anything regarding h1b visasAh, so you've chosen the path of the lying shill...
>(c) The restriction imposed pursuant to subsections (a) and (b) of this section shall not apply to any individual alien, all aliens working for a company, or all aliens working in an industry, if the Secretary of Homeland Security determines, in the Secretary’s discretion, that the hiring of such aliens to be employed as H-1B specialty occupation workers is in the national interest and does not pose a threat to the security or welfare of the United States.Hurr durr, I'm sure this isn't another grift for trump to take bribes. Trump loves America!
>>1439687Doesn't matter because I already see posts on fiverr, freelancer and alike, for projects to scrape hundreds of thousands of resumes.On top of that, I've seen about a dozen WFH/remote websites pop up for jobs that don't appear on the parent companies career listings. Most of those sites are cpanel sites that regularly get suspended.I'm going to predict a massive, potentially government run, campaign to rip off american's identities.How are they going to know their status if they use somebody's identity and SS?They could use your ID and claim tax exempt, leaving you with an IRS demand to prove you didn't work someplace. That could appear years after this person worked and moved on.AFAIK, IRS doesn't play by any rules, if they claim your info was used to work, you need to prove you didn't.
>>1440030Are you trolling me or are you seriously so unfamiliar with America that you think crop pickers are not only eligible for, but come here with, h1b visas?
>>1440028Harvest work is by the bushel rather than hour. Be damn sure you're constantly moving to earn enough for the day. Bathroom breaks in the field of stuff you're picking. While some white guy is listening to the radio in his ac'ed truck hollering to go faster or can find someone who can. This is commercial farming.
>>1440038I mean it's your idea of it.
>>1440042Kk, love. Just remember to wash your produce. Human shit is still organic.
>>1440028>You going out to pick the fields then? $7.50 an hour to bend over in the mud and sun all day long.If you fix the labor market the wages of field workers will improve massively. It doesnt matter though, because we have visas for agricultural workers - its called the H-2A visa. Also, reminder: BUT WHO WILL PICK THE CROPS!?!?!? Has been a Democrat argument in the past (you lost).
>>1440050I don't remember them caring about crop picking. They were worried about toilet cleaning.Remember: sub-human Mexicans will do the jobs Americans won't.
>>1440050Maga will pick the crops after more retail downsizing. When one business closes, a field gets picked.
>>1440060>America didn't have janitors and maids until the 1990's.
>>1440050>>Also, reminder: BUT WHO WILL PICK THE CROPS!?!?!? Has been a republicunt complaint in the presentfixed that for you, shill
>>1440050>Also, reminder: BUT WHO WILL PICK THE CROPS!?!?!? Has been a Democrat argument in the past (you lost).Pretty much this. The arguments I hear from them is basically "who will {insert slave labor here}!??" basically dog whistling to everyone around them that they still support slavery
>>1440092The right-wing desperation to pin every bad thing they're accused of on the left is always a treat to see.
>>1440081>>1440094>no uPathetic.
>>1440097Right, exactly like that.
>>1440099You have no argument so you're flinging shit as a distraction.
>>1440100>>1440099
He needs to add a tariff on remote labor/offshoring or this is meaningless.
>>1440102>>1440061>>1440060Is this really all you jagoffs have? "Won't someone please think of the illegal mexian crop pickers?", "but what about the tariffs??"Those arguments don't even apply to h1b visas.You people are acting desperate af.
>>1440104why bother when you're just going to lie and ignore any actual arguments?trolling you by giving shitty takes is less effortdestroying your brain by making you think leftists believe this shit is a bonus
>>1440092notice how not a single business owner went to jail for hiring undocumented immigrants? I wonder who benefited from all that discount labor?>>1439948There go all the top doctors, programmers, engineers and STEM fields!>Buh dose jobs will go to amewicansThe law already requires those jobs are offered to americans first. (businesses tend to post the listings in foreign languages to avoid this) but they prefer to pay an immigrant a fraction of the money.>>1439906Very correct. It's also a thinly veiled bribery scheme because its enforcement is at the "secretary's discretion"
>>1440104Calm down, you're kneejerking. I agree with trump (for once) that making H1-B visas more costly is a good move, but he needs to take it further with tariffs on offshoring. If a foreigner is that good, companies should pay for it
>>1440109>The law already requires those jobs are offered to americans first.part of it is that no doctor in America willingly wants to live in the middle of bumfuck nowhere and practice medicine for a bunch of retarded MAGA hillbillys, so the people that insurance companies tend to get are foreign doctors. so you have to remember most MAGA retards are irrationally angry at Indian doctors telling them they're killing themselves, and then they have to pay ridiculous US healthcare costs for the medical advice they end up ignoring for racist reasons.
>>1440113Opposite day. already?Maybe enter political discussion after educating yourself slightly.
>>1440115what's it like losing every single argument and then acting like a child for a living? do people respect you?
>>1440109>notice how not a single business owner went to jail for hiring undocumented immigrants? I wonder who benefited from all that discount labor?Ngl the immigrant thing has been very interesting to me for this reason. Usually people that swing right benefit the most from undocumented immigrants, because businesses essentially use them as slave labor. Farm-helpers are the modern day equivalent of slavery in the U.S., and there are so many contractors who hire exclusively immigrants because they're dirt cheap. Blue collar jobs are given out usually by right-leaning people, and they all want the retardedly cheap labor they can squeeze out of immigrants.But then right-leaning people shoot themselves in the foot, saying they want to deport all the immigrants despite benefiting from it and then complain that nobody wants to work for $5 an hour picking cotton or roofing tiles, and left-wing people say that these industries will collapse without immigrants, that they're the only ones that would be willing to work for $5 dollars an hour, inadvertently advocating for the slave labor conditions these people work under despite usually being against this. Idk why both sides go against their own interests like this. I think the right does it because they don't like brown people, and the left does it because they want to prove they do like brown people, and they both twist themselves in knots and go against their own interests because of this.
>>1440129the right definitely does it because they're brainwashed by hateporn about brown people, the left usually does it because it's not slavery (even though it could be considered, somewhat paradoxically, "slave wages"), it is still an opportunity at the end of the day for the unwashed masses who want to get their foot in america's door. most people don't know that the original abolitionists of america were mainly advocating for the right of all men to accumulate the fruits of their labor, not anything particularly racial. immigrant farmers are hardly making shit but at least they've made it to the bottom rung of the pyramid scheme that is america, where could you go but up from there (but apparently the left isn't willing to actually protect this concept in the face of opposition so it's kind of bullshit now)
>>1440132Maybe in my brain I'm mixing up democratic socialists with "the left", since they're the ones who advocate for livable wages in the U.S.I still think by any definition it's exploitative, which I still think 'the left' in general is *supposed* to be against, but idfk anymore...
>>1440136see, all you actually have to do to help advocate for livable wages is claim that democrats don't actually care about it and vote against it at every opportunity in favor of letting business voluntarily pay more for no reason
>>1440115>nuh uhAs a blonde hair blue eye whitey from deep in the Appalachia mountains his post is completely true. I can barely go a day without some old crusty boomer whispering something racist, sexist or homophobic and then following it up with an incoherent rant about how they are a victim of "cancel culture" because they were asked to leave a mexican restaurant for yelling at the staff.
>>1440136well socialists in america just want billionaires to pay their share, and that's not happening unless all the socialists in america become prominent tax lawyers, unfortunately
Meanwhile, groceries are up, some are at war, some are prepping for war, the child trafficking ring thrives, corruption is maximizing, speech is censored, media is brainwashing, taxes are up for individuals and down for corporations, privacy doesn't exist, martyrs are manufactured, elections rigged, votes gerrymandered, (similar but should be emphasized since these where two big MAGA subjects not long ago). All is well, folks.Temporary Pain. T-E-M-P-O-R-A-R-Y
>>1440132>because they're brainwashed by hateporn about brown peopleIt's because when a migrant rapes and kills someone the media calls us racist for not wanting rape and murder.We don't actually know how bad the immigrant crime situation is because professional dogwalkers from reddit will spend ten hours a day editing wikipedia to make sure that their post-racial utopia comes to fruition. Same shit with crime statistics and the FBI deciding to label latinos as white to prevent pogroms while they flood the country with more migrants.
>>1440144fuck off faggot, go shill somewhere that people might take you seriously
>>1440144right wing violence far outweighs any immigrant crime both per capita and by volume
>>1440147Source?
>>1440152wwii
>>1440139I think that's only part of it, really. Socialists, as far as I know anyway, advocate for higher minimum wage, the expansion social safety nets, and nationalization of critical industries like healthcare and education, as well as other things; and only one of those things I listed really requires taxing billionaires more. All things that are popular with 'the left', but that democrats are too pussy footed to really hard-ball campaign on because of PAC money and superdelegates fucking up the nominations.Anyway, by that definition of socialist, I imagine they'd not wanna leave out immigrants in any policy stuff since their platform is usually more empathetic. Whether or not that extends to most of 'the left', or is just a minority, who knows. I just feel like the democrats try to campaign on empathy more, so that's why it feels weird they advocate for immigrants *because* they're dirt cheap labor.
>>1440154..okay, can you give be a source that is A) domestic and B) covers the last 20 years?
>>1440152https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-stateshttps://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2024also, as a bonushttps://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/
>>1440156nta, but there have been zero school shootings committed by imigrantsso thats like an infinite percentage more that brainwashed right wing kids have done
>>1440155but dirt cheap labor with a legitimate social safety net paid for by billionaires unable to rely on cypriot bank accounts would be the same thing as paying immigrants enough to survive. it's a stopgap for sure, and perhaps leftwing people these days are too disillusioned to see the forest through the trees when it comes to government intervention when compared to self-attainment, but how can you blame a people who have known nothing other than a corporate dystopia where the richest class cheats and manipulates soaring inflation while everyone else becomes bogged down
>>1440162Ah yes, the classic bogus misdirect.The myopic focus on politically motivated murders is an interesting tactic indeed.
>>1440164Yeah, and while that's good and all, at the *moment* it's still advocating for people to live in slave labor conditions because 'nobody else wants to do it.' When I see that argument brought up, nobody, ever is talking about paying immigrants more or, god forbid, setting up social safety nets that would *extend to them*. The argument is 'immigrants are good because they're cheap' which to me, almost sounds like a *right* wing talking point, but the right hates the browns too much to say something like that. I think the right did try that talking point, in a way, with H1B's and boy did that backfire lol
>>1440162>https://www.cato.org/blog/politically-motivated-violence-rare-united-states>https://www.adl.org/resources/report/murder-and-extremism-united-states-2024Both of these are just trash and their definition of right wing is the reason >https://williamsinstitute.law.ucla.edu/press/ncvs-trans-press-release/This one completely leaves out race, where the majority of the violence against transexuals is by non whites
>>1440173The right don't want immigrants at all. We want those jobs going to legal Americans. I don't want production being done by slave labor overseas. I want those things done in the US where we have EPA and OSHA, no children with suicide nets around a factory. I don't have a problem with people coming here legally, but I will always be against flooding the country with jeets and mexicans that can't speak English after two generation and turn everything they touch into ghetto third world neighborhoods
>>1440173it's labor traditionally done by slaves in this country, but it's not slavery, it's still wage labor. i've worked with people who do this shit and they have to work long hours and take care of their kids before and afterwards, i don't think i'd last long in their position. their resolve is rock hard though, they can do that shit somehow, mainly with the idea that their kids will get an education and move forward. and once again, the more thieving billionaires are forced to contribute, the better immigrant lives will be while they're in this transitionary period. the only real reason it doesn't make sense is, the rich (white) hacendados employing are already fucking them, how are you going to force the rich to help them? therein lies the problem. the left gripes a lot but they don't really achieve shit
>>1440172>post facts from reliable sources>QUIT MISDIRECTINGuhhh you ok bro?
>>1440173I think the "who will pick the crops" argument is an attempt to translate the issue to the side that prefers money over people. I could be wrong but that is how I digest it.
>>1440175>their definition of right wing is the reason>Like you cant PROVE someones political motivation>swastika tattoos>manifesto complaining about the great replacement theory>"im not a republican but I just think you should enter the country the RIGHT WAY">Dads truck has a thin blue line sticker>But he wasn't WHITE ENOUGH to be republican
>>1440191but its inconvenient for them to be right wing, so we just pretend they aren't
>>1440184>the only real reason it doesn't make sense is, the rich (white) hacendados employing are already fucking them, how are you going to force the rich to help them?Probably by giving them citizenship so they can't be abused for cheap labor off the books, but that then comes with a problem of them needing to be paid higher wages and gaining basic work rights; which in turn makes them more like whites in the sense they're not going to be desperate for employment and only able to find it in exploitative industries.Which AGAIN isn't what the left is really advocating for when they say 'they're cheap labor and nobody else will do their jobs'. >>1440188I guess this makes sense, but then it comes full circle and feels more like a self-own that people can point out as a weirdly hypocritical talking point. And it's not like that talking point is actually going to actually change their minds of people that view the problem as more of a cultural/racial thing, a la >>1440179
>>1439687Inb4 tech companies just move all their operations overseas
>>1440318Fine by me.
>>1439687>Thankless job of saving americaYou mean biden who saved the world economy from donald trump just be crucified by angry fascist chuds?
I don't see why you say it is thankless, I am pretty sure maga thanks him constantly, people pay him tribute, widows let orange blob goo them. He single-handedly destroyed America, Russia and China thank him. Turned Christianity into a further mockery, Muslims thank him. Lowered corporate, tax and raised prices of goods, corporations thank him.
Thank you, Mr. President. Glug glerk slurp.You are so great, Mr. President. Gluk gluk gluk oom gluk gluk gluk.Magafagas
>>1439722>no logical reason to oppose this>H1Bs now cost 100k>Most of the applicants cant pay it and those few who can, will end up investing elsewhere>Now all the talent in tech that came from Asia and Europe will stay in Asia and Europe>America is left behind as all future tech developments happen overseas and theres no reason to stay in the American market.>#winning
