Two Eurofighter jets took off from Rostock-Laage Air Base in Germany after an unidentified aircraft appeared over the Baltic without a flight plan or radio contact.The plane was visually identified as a Russian Il-20M.https://www.handelsblatt.com/politik/deutschland/nato-russischer-aufklaerer-loest-alarmstart-der-luftwaffe-aus/100156892.htmlWhen can we start getting rid of russians? theyre proving time and time again that all they stand for is hostility and need to be dealt with, just nobody wants to get their hands dirty.
>>1440313I think the Russians are trying to goad them into shooting their planes down so they can then project their aggression onto the west and be like "See?! Poor Pussia is being OPPRESSED by the VIOLENT west!"And unfortunately Germany in particular is full of exceptional pussies and/or Kremlin simps that would then try to extend that claim and be like "are we REALLY going to risk NUCLEAR WAR just to shoot down some planes that weren't harming us??"The only hope is letting countries that don't give a shit shoot them down, like Turkey did. Countries that aren't perfectly aligned with "the west" work best since those countries avoid the claim that the Russians so clearly want to make; that the west is oppressing them.Let Finland shoot down a few or something. I'm so fucking sick of ziggers.
>>1440313Russia only understands and respects force. They tried this shit with Turkey and now they steer well clear of that place because they caught a missile up the ass.
yeah... 34+ kebabs got vaporized in response, good times! can't wait to do the same to some baltoids!
>>1440321pretty much all of our troubles would go away with the americanist/internationalist empire gone, just imagine the glorious life one would live in a world without liberalism... it brings a tear to my eye! - CARTHAGO DELENDA EST
Soon enough Russia will only exist in History books.
NATO can bypass any order from the United States and also not even inform the USA of actions it is going/is taking due to the apparent conflict of interest.
>>1440375Do you think it will get better or worse once Putin dies?
>>1440554I dunno. Who's his second? Does he have one? From my perspective it's all Putin's show, but I've also got a western bias.
>>1440554Better, immediate and stable
>>1440566There will be some attempts to disrupt it nut once Ukraine secures their new nukes, China will respect and American unrest will simmer down. Simmer down, Stick. Spoils of war means Ukraine and its leader keep it as theirs.
Remember how peaceful the world had became after the collapse of Soviet Union
>>1440313Maybe you fags shouldn't have started a war against them?
>>1440321>I think the Russians are trying to goad them into shooting their planes downDoubt it. This is more about slowly normalizing this sort of incident and testing the cohesion of NATO. They aren't going to win a war against NATO by punching through the Fulda gap with an armored spearhead like it's the 70s. They want to win by doing some low scale, easy to deny bullshit like Crimea on NATO territory and having the alliance fall apart over it, because "why should we send our soldiers die over some swamp in Finland">>1440375Wishful thinking. We (the west as a whole) don't even really have a plan against Russia. The last 3 years have proven that.Just waiting for it to collapse on its own is infantile>>1440650(you)
>>1441178https://www.securitycouncilreport.org/whatsinblue/2025/09/briefing-on-incursion-of-russian-aircraft-into-estonian-airspace.phpI mean. Has the UN, NATO, Poland or Estonia actually shown evidence?? They’ve shot some drones pre-emptively they say. Burden of proof lies with the person making the claim. Claims without evidence must be dismissed without evidence. This is nuclear escalation we are discussing here. They admitted to acts of war and of warmongering, but they haven’t actually shown proof of a valid need. Literally just admitted they claim they attacked Russian assets. An act of war provocation. In the hopes of provoking retaliatory actions, hence the need to invoke article four.. But they can’t even back up their own reports. Both Estonia and Poland have found holes in their own claims. The us intel state also cannot verify. Neither can any Russian ally.. Russia says they didn’t. Estonia and Poland say they do. None of these morherfuckers are even human or literate. Why the fuck would I consider that any of them are telling the truth? The only plan was to create economic stimulus via MIC stockpile refilling and recycling, the idea this speeds up attrition. This has not worked. This will not work due to international market conditions intentionally manipulated or otherwise. Russia was in a position with relative advantage to the applied fulcrum, then they called the bluff. Fuckwit tier tactics all round unless your plan was posturing to cause stimulus.
>>1441182>not directly related to anything I've said>fucked up spacing and punctuation and grammar>written as if you're just begging to get into a bad-faith argumentCome on man, at least put a tiny bit of effort into this
>>1441189Bruh, find another way to tell me you’re functionally illiterate. I’m not going to spoon feed retards
>thus >>1440353 admits to being pro-Putin or would be anti-Putin tyranny & imperialism>just imagine the glorious life one would live in a world without liberalismhttps://www.military.com/video/off-duty/odd/akward-moments-with-vladimir-putin/3129473236001You'll never beat the pedo-supporter allegations, >>1440353The only way you can is by saying 'Just imagine the glorious life one would live in a world without Putin and his Russian Imperialism'Just imagine the glorious life one would live in a world without Putin and his Russian Imperialism. There, I've said it. Your turn, >>1440353 .If you don't, you're a pedo supporter.
>>1440342Erdogan and Putin are both dictators running mafia states.
Scrambles... Mmmm, plane eggs.
>>1440650shitty bait
1440650Did the Allies annex Sudetenland? Did the Allies invade Poland?Did NATO annex Crimea? Did NATO invade Ukraine?Just like his little Ivans, Putin - a KGB officer - has forgotten about the Great Patriotic War. Those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it.
