At a press conference before the bill signing, Newsom taunted ICE agents, who have been wearing masks on patrols to protect their identities.

“To ICE, unmask. What are you afraid of?” he said. “You’re gonna do enforcement? Provide an ID.”

Newsom’s press office also appeared to taunt Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem, posting before the bill signing ceremony that she “is going to have a bad day today.”

The post met with backlash from numerous Trump administration officials, including DHS Assistant Secretary Tricia McLaughlin, who called it a “threat.”

“This is ugly, [Gavin Newsom]. Your keyboard warrior team may hide behind their laptops and spew this kind of vitriol but you would never have the guts to say this to her face,” she said.

NEWSOM SIGNS LEGISLATION THAT WOULD BOOST OIL PRODUCTION

In response, Los Angeles’s top federal prosecutor, Bill Essayli, referred Newsom’s comments to U.S. Secret Service.

“We have zero tolerance for direct or implicit threats against government officials. I’ve referred this matter to [Secret Service] and requested a full threat assessment,” he said in a statement.

>>1440410
ICE is a federal agency. They don't have to do anything Newsom says

>>1440421
Good luck trying to ignore it.

>>1440435
>Good luck trying to ignore it.
They dont need luck they have Article VI, Clause 2 of the Constitution. This new law is purely performative. It does nothing, it can do nothing, and Gov. Newsome and CA Dems know it.

>>1440470
When you see them without masks to comply with the new law try not to have a stroke.

>>1440474
I'm not going to have a stroke because I am not emotionally invested in this shit. I have a life. Its just news dude.

Also, Feds have already said they will be ignoring this new law.

>>1440478
Riiiiiiight

>>1440481
Is there anything you want to debate or discuss or are you just here to get angry at people?

>>1440435
>>1440474
>>1440410
>>1440411
This does not hold in court.
Bread and circuses.

>>1440484
>Bread and circuses.
Nah, its more "Gavin has started his Presidential campaign".

>>1440483
he's making fun of you actually, you seem to be the upset party in this exchange

>>1440483
>>1440484
Now THIS is the seethe I came here to see.

>>1440488
Okay, I hope you find whatever (you) are looking for.

>>1440491
>seethe!
No one is seething. Its a political stunt, states cannot regulate the federal government, ICE will do what they do. Its just news dude, idk why you're so emotionally invested in it.

>>1440494
You're seething right now and it's pretty funny to watch.

>>1440495
Why would I be seething?

>>1440498
it seems to be one of the main duties included in your job description

>>1440500
I'm sorry CA dems and Gov Newsoms political stunt got your hopes up. I hope you find the appropriate outlet for your anger.

>>1440435
I don't think any luck is needed in this matter, anon.
I suspect it's not going to be followed and nobody's going to do anything about it except complain

>>1440501
>accountability is a political stunt
you guys sure are fascists

>>1440503
>accountability
They wear uniforms and identify themselves as federal law enforcement. The specific names of agents is irrelevant as individual agents enjoy qualified immunity from civil suits.

Its completely pointless and constitutionally invalid.

>>1440503
Also the law says that they cant wear masks, not that they must identify themselves so its not even about accountability.

>>1440501
>>1440502
The absolute cope of MAGAts

>>1440509
Honestly this whole law is cope smh they have literally no authority over federal agents or how federal law enforcement conducts their enforcement activities

>>1440509
In this scenario, the cope is coming from you. You got your hopes up about a law that is completely ineffectual.

>>1440511
>>1440513
why did you post twice though, is that a new policy at your shill farm?

>>1440514
>could multiple people think this law is retarded?
>no, I'll cope about shills

>>1440513
>>1440511
see >>1440474

>>1440519
and when they dont comply with this "law"?

>>1440518
>cope about shills
i guess i am coping with you by calling you a faggot and making fun of you. fair enough

>>1440520
They will because most of them are Californians to begin with.

>>1440523
So, when they dont comply?

>>1440524
>Penalties for violating the law include either an infraction or misdemeanor, and apply to officers who committed an “assault, battery, false imprisonment, false arrest, abuse of process, or malicious prosecution” while covering their face,

>>1440525
lmao so its even less than nothing.

>>1440526
It's the same level of penalty (misdemeanor) for crossing the border illegally.

>>1440528
but what about hunter's penis

>>1440529
BUT HILLARY'S EMAILS

>>1440528
Notice how it doesnt apply to officers doing their job. It makes it a crime for a cop to wear a mask while committing a crime.

LMAO you got so utterly played.

>>1440531
being a fascist faggot is a crime, and any actual american's grandfather is blatantly aware of that

>>1440531
>apply to officers who committed an “assault, battery, false imprisonment, false arrest, abuse of process, or malicious prosecution”

>>1440533
>loses argument (badly)
>instantly starts with the insults
Dont get mad at me, get mad at Newsom and CA dems for misleading you so badly.

>>1440534
Yes, those are all crimes. Doesn't apply to cops carrying out their lawful duties.

>>1440536
not in the current administration, perhaps

>>1440536
Hilarious
https://www.aclunc.org/news/civil-rights-groups-file-class-action-lawsuit-stop-trump-administration-s-illegal-courthouse

>>1440537
After accusing everyone of coping, you're now coping.

Congradulations, CA now has a law that if a ICE agent breaks the law - for offenses that carry serious criminal penalties - they will also get a misdemeanor if they do it in a mask.

Wow. ITS FUCKING NOTHING. Lmao.

>>1440539
please learn english so i can take you seriously, your whole argument has been invalidated by your idiocy

>>1440539
>ICE will just ignore it
>ICE is just doing their jobs
>ICE can ignore it because it's nothing <--- you are here
>ICE has to comply with state law
>ICE stops illegally abducting brown skinned people for no reason

Qualified immunity?

>>1440541
>ICE has to comply with state law
This entire thread The primary objection has been that this is not true..
It doesn't matter what you put on your fake timeline to help you cope, the roadblock is that federal enforcement agencies are not under the jurisdiction of state law.

At worst, some local police officer is going to try to arrest an ice agent and it's going to be litigated in court. That is the best outcome right now you could hope for.

>>1440556
>At worst, some local police officer is going to try to arrest an ice agent
Excuse me. At worst they are going to write them a citation, and it will be litigated in federal court

Literally all anyone's boss has to do in ice is order them to wear masks and its now out of the individuals hands and becomes a state vs federal authority matter

>>1440435
What do you mean "good luck"? You can't enforce it.

>>1440531
they're desperate for a win right now

>>1440533
My grandfather shot a bunch of nazis to death and his greatest regret was that we didn't do the same thing to the communists both in Russia and at home. America is #1 and all socialist ideologies belong in the trashbin.

>>1440541
>ICE stops illegally abducting brown skinned people for no reason
Never ever and you know it. You're all going back.

>>1440541
>>ICE has to comply with state law
Our Constitution says otherwise.

>>1440540
>gets btfo in argument
>has no response
>resorts to shit flinging
Many such cases. SAD!

>>1440577
telling you to learn the language you're using before proceeding isn't shit flinging. in fact, i'm trying to help you

>>1440410

Newsom 2028

>>1440581
The post you're complaining about is written in plain English and is grammatically correct. You're flinging shit because you cant formulate a counter argument.

>you don't understand stupid libs, ICE needs anonymity in order to do their jobs
>lib traitors keep trying to dox innocent ICE agents when they do legitimate tasks like brutalize children and illegally arrest Americans
I didn't read the thread, is this what the right wing shills are claiming?

>>1440582
The entire Republican party is hoping and praying that you nominate Newsom as your presidential candidate.

>>1440584
Right wing shills are pointing out that the Supremacy Clause in the constitution says that this law will have no effect. They are also pointing out that this law makes it a crime for a cop to commit a crime while wearing a mask (in other words, it does nothing).

In short, this is a massive PR stunt by Newsom that will have no IRL effect on anything

>>1440583
no, i'm just aware of the fact that you seem to be incapable of not fucking my language up at least once a day. when i make fun of you for it don't get mad

>>1440590
You cant even point out the errors you're complaining about. You lost an argument, on the internet, get over it.

>>1440585
>praying
Where was Charlie Kirk's god? Trump is the Republicans' god now, so no 'prayer' required in their political obliteration. December's going to be financial hell for those who - as a result of that month & the fuckups by this adminifrustration after 20th January 2025 - will have 'Buyer's Regret'. The midterms. I don't need to hope about what'll happen in 2028. but keep huffing that Hopium, along with 'praying' to a nonexistent god. *Tips Trilby*.

>>1440591
>>1440591
anon, the person you're defending (who might be you, i don't fucking know) tried to spell congratulations "congradulations"

>>1440594
You're absolutely crashing out over a typo?

>>1440592
You’re very naive to think the people who voted for him will ever stop licking the boot.
Those people who said they did it for muh economy will find a new excuse to be spineless cowards

>>1440595
you're crashing out because i can point out the aforementioned errors? also, you're a right wing shill, stop copying black teenager vernacular. you suck at your job and i could go on forever about it

>>1440596
lmao you've been spazzing out for like two hours because of a typo? Lmao, take the L
>crashing out
>black teenager vernacular
Okay, boomer.

>>1440600
>the truth? LOL yeah right
how are you this foreign, esl shill? it's funny when you get defensive i guess, but you really are a useless brainless faggot

>>1440599
>i could go on forever about it
What you cant go on for hours about is that this law will do anything.

But please, do keep shitting up the thread because you're so fragile that losing a minor internet debate causes a tantrum.

>>1440602
please learn english, faggot, then we wouldn't have to do this over and over

>>1440601
Are you the guy who just wants to be angry at people and doesnt actually want to talk about the thread topic?

Anyhow, no more (you)'s.

>>1440605
so you do get paid per reply? (we already knew that, and here's a rupee faggot)

>>1440604
>then we wouldn't have to do this over and over
I'm never going to stop absolutely bodying you in arguments. Keep coping over typos, loser.

States cannot legislate federal procedures and all this will actually result in is Californias swat teams not wearing masks anymore, not that I really care, but a state law will never take precedence over federal agencies if those agencies decide to order their employees to wear masks

>>1440608
here we go with more aave while being a right wing shill. you and your shill farm are fucking retarded and i relish the day when we vanquish you from the internet. in the meantime, keep butchering my language i guess

>>1440590
You missed 2 words that should have capitals. You forgot a comma and a period. You failed to double space. You statement should have read as...

No, I'm just aware of the fact that you seem to be incapable of not fucking my language up at least once a day. When I make fun of you for it, don't get mad.

>>1440611
lmao.

>>1440609
>States cannot legislate federal procedures
You keep coping about this shill
sorry, no more anonymous stormtroopers so you can brutalize people, cameras are on so they actually have to follow the law now

>>1440611
you think ignorance is cute? you must think mental retardation is downright adorable

>>1440614
>You keep coping about this shill
There is no cope. The "shills" are objectively correct.

Also, the law only makes it a crime for LEO's to commit a crime while wearing a mask. It says nothing, that I know of, that LEO's are forbidden from wearing masks while executing lawful duties.

TL;DR: The cope is yours, good sir.

>>1440615
I find entertainment in the world, yes.

>>1440617
being a fascist faggot is unlawful here, no matter what foreign shills say

>>1440615
I do abhor hypocrisy too, like Jesus.

>>1440619
Okay, so thats not an argument. Thats you seething about this law and how it works.

What do the shills think about this?

>>1440622
>this law
don't you mean "your law", esl shill. nobody thinks you're white or american

>>1440619
>appealing to an imaginary “law” specifically against your opponents while calling others fascist
lol. Lmao even.

>>1440410
ICE is essentially a Secret Police force at its most fundamental level. Unidentifiable agents, sweeping yet vague powers, at the beck and call of the Dear Leader. The whole damn thing needs to be dismantled.

>>1440629
They're not ICE agents unless they identify themselves and provide a badge number.That applies for any law enforcement.
When someone pretending to be an ICE officer tries to force you to do anything, you can defend yourself.
If someone tries to flash you a gun while trying to illegally kidnap you, you can defend yourself with deadly force.
shills don't like this series of events for some reason

>>1440631
you don't like the series of events? why are you defending them?

Violent Democrats only want them unmasked so they can hurt their families. Fucking pussies

>>1440624
>the crashout continues

>>1440629
>no you cant just enforce laws and stuff cuz its scary
No.

>>1440597
Farmers. Those with small businesses. Those whose children will suffer this Xmas.
They're going to grow spines as a result of 'Buyer's Regret': but not in a way you'll like. Good
They'll realize - if they hadn't already since 20th January 2025 - that what they voted for last year doesn't care about them. So why should they care about an orange thing which put them in such financial hell?

>>1440610
>keep butchering my language
>aave
Perfect self-own.

>>1440474
We already solved the issue of States Rights vs. The Fed and the states lost. I think you'll find that Newsom probably won't be in office for very much longer either.

>>1440639
>ask chatgpt what keyboard layouts have those letters next to each other
>standard indian keyboard layout
right wing shill being indian is actually a little surprising

>>1440541
Browns aren't people, and you can't illegally abduct anyone if they're not a citizen and thus not protected under US Law or the Constitution. If they're smart, they'll leave the country quickly before the tit-for-tat turns into jackboots and armbands.

>>1440421
this. Democrats have no idea how the Constitution works.
>>1440435
Good luck trying to arrest Federal agents and trying to prevent Federal agents from enforcing Federal law. Either ICE is allowed to wear masks or California is declaring an open rebellion and secession. We all know what happened the last time racist Democrats did that.

>>1440643
nah
maybe brush up on how things work in America
this was the first step of whining when sanctuary cities happened too

>>1440644
He's right thoughever. I guess you're missing the way that the wind is turning, but the entire Western world is currently engaged in a hard-right swing. Its definitely orchestrated, and not by Trump - he's a convenient scapegoat for something that the powers that be obviously want, or need to happen. France, Germany and the UK are all having the same hard-right swing, too.

Its very likely that Newsom will just be an-hero'd as a deliberate message to the rest, in one way or another. What he's doing is already illegal under Federal law - states are not allowed to secede from the union or violate Federal directives under any circumstances - and the Fed has been searching high and low for a good way to send all the 'Sanctuary' states a strong message that they better get on board or get stepped on. Calling it now, gents, screencap it.

>>1440645
>impotent right wing retard pretends Newsom is going to get Kirk'd
may be something to it if most right wingers weren't impotent pussies like you

>>1440646
Its not 'most right wingers', you mouthbreathing retard, its the political establishment itself pushing this. Things that would have been anathema to even talk about just ten years ago, like pushing out LGBT, BLM, Feminism and Leftism - are now becoming mainstream topics for the establishment on a daily basis in so quick a manner that it can only be orchestrated.

Its not about what citizens do, or do not do, or vote for, or vote against, or whether you dance to summon your shitheel rain god or not - the world is turning hard right whether you or anyone else likes it or not. It doesn't matter what your political affiliation is, or mine.

My working theory is that we're going to war - Russia will tap out in 3-5 years, and that'll leave China surrounded on three sides - India, Post-Russian Territories, and the Pacific Island Chains - but if our governments are serious about bailing out our sick financial system on the back of conquering revanchist states, we're not going to be able to brook liberalism, free speech, large minority groups that are organized politically, or any of that. That's why they're deporting all the minorities starting now, levelling lawsuits at major media companies and tackling the issue of the divided government. By the time the war starts, there will only be one party, and its very likely that they use people like (You) to set up a situation where we have to vote out our own Constitution in order to get rid of the Browns and return to law and order, too. If you want to be a useful idiot, that's on you - but paper isn't going to stop what's happening, not even the Constitution.

>>1440647
nah
tl;dr: you're retarded
get grok to explain it to you

>>1440647
He's a faggot jeet, but he's right. Right wingers don't assassinate people. Only liberals do that sociopathic shit. They tried to kill Trump three times. Show me a comparison of high profile left and right assassination attempts over the past 30 years

>>1440651
the right's political killings are usually lynchings.

>>1440653
Care to show some examples of that over the past twenty years? I'd to to pre-counter whatever you say with black on white crime statistics

i dont like illegals but ice agents are faggots just like pigs

cowards with guns

couldn't fight like a real man if their lives depended on it


we need a proper civil war

>>1440582
Please god, no. He'd inevitably be another 'nothing will change when I'm president' candidate like Kamala was, and god that's such a fucking retarded platform to run on.
Give us Pete Buddigeg or hell, even AOC.

>>1440653
>the right's political killings are usually lynchings
It's past your bedtime grandpa

>>1440614
I'm going to be laughing thinking about your post when federal agents still wear masks because state law can't dictate federal operations

Seriously bro. At least learn about how the law works in the US if you're going to be paid to shill here

>>1440654
So you'd like to do a whatabout while ignoring the actual issue, I see.
>>1440658
What, do you just assume this shit stopped? That's like pretending SIDS is just babies dying without anyone knowing why.

>>1440435
>Good luck trying to ignore it.
Oh what the fuck are they going to do? Is the LAPD going to arrest the FBI?

This is literally me here with both my fingers crossed wishing a nigga would. On God no cap.

>>1440662
it's happened before, it'll happen again.

>>1440663
I'm unfamiliar with it happening before. When did the LAPD arrest the FBI?

>>1440657
Newson is the kind of retard that can sweep a far left liberal state, but he turns off anyone that isn't an unhinged liberal. Definitely losing all the swing states. Buttisgay is never going to be allowed to be the candidate. he can't even win any election he runs in

>>1440664
Oh this shit happens all the time. I can't remember one about LAPD specifically, but if you're ever looking for a laugh, look up the amount of times feds are arrested.

>>1440506
But a lot of them don’t wear uniforms and get pissed if you ask for a badge.

>>1440668
And they shouldn’t. Why should they dox themselves just to get doxed and murdered by the tolerant left like Charlie Kirk? If they say they are agents of the law, that is good enough.

>>1440669
It's hilarious how much you guys are freaking out at getting your own medicine.

I'm an agent of the law. Post your identity on 4chan so we may confirm your identity.

Motherfuckers never heard of Color of Law before... inb4, most are white.
*Facepalm

Mask for covid, hell nah.
Mask while breaking law, hell yeah.

>>1440665
They're going to run AOC because they know America will never elect a brown woman, no matter what platform she runs on. Same as it was with Kamala. They're pricing in the loss because they need another couple presidential terms to finish the deportations and reconstructing us into something more akin to a one-party system.

You can't have political division and upheaval going on in the middle of WW3 with China. Simple as. Its not about what's right, its not even about what's constitutional, its about what the West needs, and needs must as the devil drives.

>>1440410
The conservative racism is astounding here.
Why shouldn't mulsim women be comfortable as ICE agents?
WTF California?

It's amazing how there are people ITT RIGHT NOW defending government jackbooted things wearing masks to conceal their identities.

>>1440691
They're kicking out the browns. Nothing else matters except that they're trying to protect us from subhumans who aren't supposed to be here, and it hasn't been legal to say so publically for the last 20 years but now it is.

Everyone is going to ride this all the way to the bank, and when it becomes clear that this is the new normal, half of your own side will flip and start telling us they were conservatives all along to protect their lives and livelihoods. Screencap it.

>>1440693
Not only has it been legal you've been saying it the whole time, you drama queen.

>>1440691
It just goes to confirm that they're not actually human.
They forget the reason the north is against racism is because if they weren't, they'd have to expel the entirety of the south. The whitest southerner is like a black northerner.

>>1440691
It's amazing that Democrats want people's identities revealed so that they can harm their families because they are enforcing the law that Democrats have spent the last decade ignoring and encouraging illegal immigration and violent crimes

>>1440696
Note the bootlicker can't even comprehend the possible abuses of his system. In every regard, a sub-human being.

>>1440691
Cops enforcing the law is hardly the third Reich reincarnate.

>>1440699
It's not cops is the problem, it's mystery individuals.
Probably immigrants, honestly. You guys usually bring in immigrants while pretending you don't, after all.
Even obama was better at expelling them than your shit.

>>1440698
You abused the system for over a decade. You can go fuck yourself.

>>1440701
No, that was you.
Every time you complain about abuse, it winds up being you.
You can't even get rid of the immigrants you brought in.

>>1440702
>>1440701
honestly, it we cut off everything south of the mason-dixie line, america would be vastly more profitable. They can keep socal.

>>1440700
>it's mystery individuals.
Literally what are you talking about?

>>1440704
Masked unidentified individuals, retard. What, did you not learn to read down in mexico?

>>1440703
t. Russian shill.

>>1440707
But the russians love the southern part of america, it's where they get their best intelligence work done.

>>1440705
They're masked because they keep getting attacked by anarchist terrorist groups.

It should concern you more that a US governor is unironically facilitating terrorism against federal officers simply because they enforce federal law.

>>1440705
What specifically is the problem with people wearing masks? Are they wearing unfirms? Do those uniforms clearly identify them as law enforcement? Do they announce/introduce themselves as law enforcement?

The answer to all the above is yes. Hence, what is the problem?

>>1440709
It's hilarious to me how upset you are getting that the liberals are defending liberty before you guys did.

>>1440708
The Russian shilling campaign is not to take one side or another. Their goal is to divide America as much as possible. Hence, you're either a Russian shill, or you have been mindbroken by one.

>>1440710
>the answer to the above is yes
I'm a law enforcement agent, give me your personal information or you are obstructing my work.
>>1440712
So what you're saying is the entire current regime are russian shills.

>>1440711
>defending liberty
Liberals are marching in lockstep with illegal immigrants that are flying foreign flags within our borders.

If you're an American and not some pollack larping as an American, you're a traitor, unironically.

>>1440711
Doxxing law enforcement officers so that they are afraid to perform their lawful duties is not "defending liberty".

>>1440703
They're lucky they get to keep Mexico and that we don't turn the whole nation into the world's largest radioactive glass sculpture. They should be happy with that and fuck off back South of Texas. Secession is illegal, so is trading away lands that belong to the Federal Government for any reason under the same secession laws, famously settled amongst the founding fathers during the Louisiana Purchase when people complained that we were using money, of which we had too little, to buy land, of which we had too much.

They don't get to keep even one inch of American soil. And really, I'm not sure Mexico will survive it even south of their border, the way things are going.

>>1440713
>I'm a law enforcement agent
>no uniform
>no badge
"no"

>>1440714
Liberals literally export more immigrants than you, retard.
>>1440715
You are trying to get unidentified and unregistered armed forces to attack american citizens. That's all it is.
If this was about immigration, you'd actually be able to get rid of more immigrants than obama did, but you can't.

>>1440716
>This ridiculous caricature of the south.
You're so blatantly not American.

>>1440717
I'm wearing a uniform. You just can't tell.
And it's hilarious that you bring a badge in, when that wasn't one of the requirements before. It'd be great if I had some kind of identifying badge, huh? Wouldn't you feel real uneasy about listening to me if I didn't have one?

>>1440718
>You are trying to get unidentified and unregistered armed forces to attack american citizens
They are identified by their uniforms. They are definitly registered, idk how they get paid otherwise, and they target and arrest non-citizens.

Your post is so perfectly wrong that its actually impressive.

>>1440718
>Liberals literally export more immigrants than you, retard.
Are you talking about Obama?
He padded his numbers by changing "deportations" to mean turning away illegals at the border. He now works with the Clinton Foundation to aid-drop illegals into the US using phone apps.

>>1440721
>they are identified by their uniforms
And I'm wearing a uniform. That should be enough for you, why isn't it?

>>1440720
>I'm wearing a uniform. You just can't tell.
You're words on a screen.
> It'd be great if I had some kind of identifying badge, huh?
They have badges.

>>1440722
Trump padded his numbers by declaring previous legals to be illegal.
And even with the padding, obama still beats him.

>>1440723
>why isn't it?
Because you're words on a screen, thus I cannot see the uniform.

>>1440724
>You're words on a screen
And I'm wearing a uniform. You seem to be acting the hypocrite.
>They have badges
No, not real ones. Real badges identify who you are, and what organization you are a part of.

>>1440725
>declaring
He cancelled their visa status because they lied on their applications. They defrauded US immigration to gain access to the interior.

>>1440726
So being blind makes you immune to deportation? That's retarded.
>>1440728
That's not what happened, dumbass.

>>1440727
>You seem to be acting the hypocrite.
You seem to be ESL.

>they dont carry badges
Listen, non-American, this may be hard for you to understand as you come from some desolate shithole. However, we are a nation of laws:
>8 C.F.R. § 287.5(f)(2) – Immigration officers must carry their Service-issued badge and credentials at all times when exercising immigration officer powers, and they must exhibit them when requested.

With regards to masks and face-coverings
>Under 8 C.F.R. § 287.8(a)(1), officers may delay identifying themselves if doing so would place them or others in danger. But identification is required once it becomes safe.

>>1440730
I'm sorry you don't know what hypocrite means, I can use smaller words if that's more in line with your education level.

>You see, they're legally required to have these things
Yes, hence everyone being upset they don't have these things. Please, try to pay attention.

>>1440729
>That's not what happened, dumbass.
I can't argue with someone that denies reality.

>>1440725
Nobody brown in this country is legal, including the blacks. Just because someone brought you here through no fault of your own does not make you 'our problem', and you need to fuck back off to wherever your parents came from. Simple as.

>>1440732
Sure you can, that's the majority of what one has to do in politics.
You've got the religious and trannies over here, denying the entire world, and they're a huge part of it.

>>1440733
It's hilarious to see you seethe about losing out to obama at your own game.

>>1440731
>You seem to be acting the hypocrite.
>I'm sorry you don't know what hypocrite means
I know what the word means, you just used the wrong syntax. Let me guess, you speak Spanish - they do "the + noun".

>hence everyone being upset they don't have these things
They have those things and do those things.

>>1440736
No, I used the correct syntax, you're just kind of uneducated I guess.
>They have those things and do those things
No, that's the entire problem.

>>1440731
>Yes, hence everyone being upset they don't have these things.
Californians (thats not everyone) are upset that ICE officers wear masks when making arrests. No one is saying that they aren't real police.

The laws anon just showed you say that they are allowed to conceal their identity until its safe to identify themselves to the person they have detained.

>>1440738
>no one is saying they aren't real police
That's the entire crux of the issue, retard.
>They're just not identifying themselves!
Hence the public outcry. And the doubt that they're real cops. Since the date on when it's safe is "never", apparently.

>>1440737
>No, I used the correct syntax
You objectively used the wrong syntax. "You seem to be acting the hypocrite" is completely broken English.
>No, that's the entire problem.
Its not the problem, you dont understand the problem because you're most likely not American.

>>1440741
Man, this nigga has never heard of someone acting the fool before.
Not only are you uneducated, you're poorly read, too.

>You just don't understand the problem
Says the man who's been playing the fool this entire conversation.

>>1440740
>That's the entire crux of the issue, retard.
So how is them showing their faces going to change anything if the "problem" is that they aren't real cops?

Are you retarded?

>>1440744
Ask that question again real slowly, and think of what the answer might be.
You know, how it could possibly be helpful to be able to tell whether they are or are not cops.

>>1440743
"Acting the fool" is an idiom. "Acting the hypocrite" is archaic English.

>>1440746
>That doesn't work!
>Okay, it does, but it's just archaic!
lol, this faggot doesn't even have conversational use of idioms

>>1440745
I think you may genuinely be retarded.
>You know, how it could possibly be helpful to be able to tell whether they are or are not cops.
Their credentials will tell you that, not their faces.

>>1440748
The credentials that they do not have and are not showing? Those credentials? The ones who's absence is causing a great outcry?

>>1440747
>well it was perfectly good English 300 years ago so I am definitely not a Spanish speaker fucking up "the + noun" when I do a direct translation from Spanish to English.
Go away, Hose.

>>1440750
Perhaps if you call me mexican more it will cover up your lack of understanding of even basic idioms.

>>1440749
>that they do not have
Who said they dont have them?
>dont show them
Dont have to. See 8 C.F.R. § 287.8(a)(1)

Nigger, I just cited Federal law and you're still trying to argue this shit?

>>1440752
>They don't HAVE to show them!
Hence the complaints that they don't have them. I'm sorry this is so confusing to you.
Perhaps you could have a timeline to where they COULD show them other than "never"? This would probably help with the outcry.

>>1440751
Its not an idiom. Go to bed, you've got lawns to mow in the morning.

>>1440753
>Perhaps you could have a timeline to where they COULD show them other than "never"?
READ 8 C.F.R. § 287.8(a)(1). Holy shit, you absolute fucking retard.

>>1440743
>Defending ebonics
>Unironically
Fuck right off you brown shitheel. 'Acting the fool' is not gramatically correct unless you're the blackest gorilla Basketball American, and its still not a defensible position. Use English properly.

>>1440754
No, it's basic wordplay that, if it were 10 years ago, a 5th grader would understand.
It's a shame you guys just don't learn to read these days.

>>1440756
>giving credits to blacks for old white man literature
lol
>>1440755
So, no, you cannot give a timeline, as the threat can be basically as long as they choose.

>>1440758
>So, no, you cannot give a timeline, as the threat can be basically as long as they choose.
If they want to tell a judge that it wasn't safe to show the detainee their credentials at a processing facility, they are free to do so and face the Courts consequences.

What you're malding about is that they dont have a duty to show random people on the street their faces or their credentials. Get over it.

Lulz to anyone who thought a politician would end qualified immunity for their goon squads.

>>1440760
All right- and how would you bring a specific perpetrator to the court?
You don't have his face, his badge number, or any identifying trait of the man.

>>1440762
If that were the case, congratulations Jose you're getting released because you've been subject to an unlawful detention.

>>1440763
These proceedings happening are also in question.

>>1440762
>All right- and how would you bring a specific perpetrator to the court?
Form I-862.
Form I-213
Form I-247

Took me 30 seconds on google. Your shithole government may not have paperwork, but this is AMERICA! We have paperwork for everything.

>>1440764
>These proceedings happening are also in question.
Yeah, all sorts of things are in question in your retarded mind. In reality, however, not so much.

>>1440765
None of these forms help you with bringing a specific policeman to the court if you don't have their information.

>>1440767
Form I-213 specifically includes the names and badge numbers on arresting officers, the circumstances of arrest and a probable cause explanation.

I left the google tab open because I knew you would have more retarded questions.

>>1440766
In reality, it's a pretty big contention, large enough for state forces to come in conflict with federal forces.

>>1440768
You do not have the names and badge officers of the arresting officers, that is withheld until they declare it safe, which is in an indefinite amount of time.
Did you not read the thread?

>>1440769
You're just making things up now. The CA state law is about masks, not whether or not people are getting their Removal Hearings.

>>1440772
Ah yes, and the thing about masks is happening for absolutely no underlying reason.
Ya great flaming faggot.

>>1440771
That information is written in Form I-213.

>>1440773
>and the thing about masks is happening for absolutely no underlying reason.
Its about them wearing masks. Its not about people getting Removal Hearings.

Your grasp on reality is tenuous at best.

>>1440775
It should be, yes, but the problem is it is not, because they deem it not "safe".
Next time try reading the thread.

>>1440777
>It should be, yes, but the problem is it is not
ICE is not completing their I-213's? HUGE if true!

Source?

>>1440776
You're just being willfully ignorant, which is normal for your type.
Perhaps you should try an echo chamber?

>>1440675
Trump wore a mask with the presidential seal on it.
'I got the Pfizer' - Trump
Operation Warp Speed
Owning yourselves to own the libs, Covidiots. 1.3 million of them can't be wrong. Oh wait

>>1440777
>but the problem is it is not, because they deem it not "safe".
Where in the thread - or anywhere - does it say that they are not completing the basic paperwork that is required to get someone deported?

>>1440778
>Source
The law cited up thread stating they don't have to until they declare it "safe", and how many people are reporting they did not get these things and are thus outraged.

>>1440781
Like 50% of all news sources, and the law cited up thread. Can you not read?

>>1440782
>, and how many people are reporting they did not get these things and are thus outraged.
LARGE if confirmed!

Source?

>>1440783
I dont see any evidence of that. What I see is you losing an argument and making things up to try defend a position you know is retarded.

>>1440785
Ask your mother.

>>1440787
My mother isnt the one making a fool of herself on the internet, m8.

>>1440786
So you're not able to scroll up, got it.
Some kind of thumbless subhuman.

>>1440789
You're not able to link me to any evidence of your claim that ICE is not completing basic immigration documents?

>>1440788
Yeah, I can see how you'd embarrass her.

>>1440703
>mason-dixie
>>1440610
>keep butchering my language
>aave
>>1440641
>>ask chatgpt what keyboard layouts have those letters next to each other
>standard indian keyboard layout
>right wing shill being indian is actually a little surprising
>>1440703
>mason-dixie
>dixie
>>1440610
>keep butchering my language
Butchering your history too, when it's Mason-Dixon.
Another perfect self-own.

>>1440790
Sorry, I have no reason to believe you understand how to use links, given your inability to scroll up.

>>1440777
Do you actually have any proof of this or did you just make it up again?

>>1440792
only two of those are me, retard.

>>1440794
You forgot how to read the laws upthread specifying they don't have to, huh?

>>1440796
>upthread
Is this even a word?
Regardless, there is no law saying they don't have to fill out legally required documents.

I can only presume you're just making all this shit up as you go, including words like "upthread"

>>1440793
>yeah, I got nothing
Concession accepted. We're done here.

>>1440795
>retard
I'm surprised you have time to post in /news/, with you being so busy working at that Bollywood cinema in Calcutta.
Along with being a projectionist, you're expert at being a liar too

>>1440797
>>1440798
>>1440799
I accept your defeat gracefully.
Perhaps one day, you will learn to read.

>>1440800
>your defeat
>you will learn to read
They must be installing that IMAX projector at that cinema you work at.

>>1440800
That other Anon is right though. You're unable to provide sources for your ridiculous claims, just some vague '50% of all news sources'. Post sources, faggot. If you won't tell him, you can at least tell me. I've got thumbs.

>>1440801
I'm sorry that scrolling up is impossible for people with your condition, whatever that is.

>>1440802
Then read the laws posted upthread specifying they don't gotta, making the whole question of the form moot.
And if you're going to pretend there's no public outcry over these people not identifying themselves, I'm more likely to call you a retard than get you a source.

>>1440800
>Gets utterly btfo making up shit
>Can't provide a source
Take the l and move on pal, you got caught making up shit again. For something that you claim is so easy to find proof of its amazing you can't provide said proof.

That the l, move on with your life, and perhaps consider not making a bunch of shit up all the time when it suits you

>>1440803
I'm sorry that your condition makes it impossible for your opinions to be accepted by normal sane humans I'm not sorry

>>1440805
>>1440806
I gracefully accept your concession.

>>1440804
I'm not reading 225 posts just to know even more than I do already that your lying to me and to have you continue bullshitting like this.

Post a source for the claim that ice doesn't need to fill out legally required deportation forms simply because they don't want to, or gtfo.

>>1440807 ungracefully concedes
ftfy

>>1440804
Who cares if there's a public outcry or not? Its the Federal Government, they do what they want. We don't vote on what the Fed does, its a force of nature and its going to get what it wants. No normal citizens have enough skin in the game to risk life or livelihood having a public political position on this, especially when removal of the browns is what every single white American has wanted since they started coming here without exception. The women, the fags, even the other browns - the one universal piece of the puzzle is that nobody wants anybody else coming here to engage in wealth extraction - they want to be the only ones. Humanity is greedy. I'm sorry you have to learn basic fundamental laws about human hierarchy from a Sudanese Underwater Armpit Shaving Forum, faggot.

Now post your sources or shut the fuck up and leave.

>>1440807
>>>1440805 (You) #
>>>1440806 #
>I gracefully accept your concession

>>1440810
>Okay fine a lot of people are saying it, shut up
Well, we've moved pretty far from nobody saying it. I'm glad that after several hours of coaching, you are able to acknowledge, in a primitive way, the stance of your opposition.

>>1440809
He's a liar and bullshitter. He makes wild claims all the time based of leftist talking points and when asked for some sort of proof he can maybe 1/5 times produce something that supports his claim. The other 4/5 he's either completely making it up, or wildly inserting his own interpretation and speculation into something else tangentially related.

>>1440812
>He thinks humans who defend brownoids are people
They're not. Neither are you.

>>1440795
You are >>1440610 >>1440703 and I claim my $10
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobby_Lud

>>1440808
So you DON'T have thumbs.
I'm sorry, I have no proof that you can even understand the words I'm typing right now.

>>1440815
No, one of those aint me.
>>1440813
Hey, you're the one who wanted to pretend nobody was saying these people's identities were in question.
That's just hilariously wrong in every observable way.

>>1440814
Whether or not they are humans has no bearing on whether they've said it, but good attempt.
Better than pretending nobody said these things. Blame it all on the coloreds.

>>1440817
>you're the one who wanted to pretend nobody was saying these people's identities were in question.
I don't know who you've mistaken me for, I got involved in the conversation when someone claimed that federal agents don't have to fill out a form i-213 if they don't want to, and asked for a source.

Whoever said that was bullshitting and can't provide a source for their false claim to save their life

>>1440819
The legal code stating they don't is literally in this thread.

>>1440821
Which post?

>>1440822
I'm not spoonfeeding your no-thumbs ass.

>>1440823
Ah so you can't provide a source and you made it up. I don't know why you think people are as dumb and gullible as your are

Anyways, have a nice night, retard. It was fun calling you out on your bullshit again, you kinda just wiggled around in the dirt and poorly lied like you always do.

See ya tomorrow.

>>1440824
No, it's there, you're just pretending it doesn't exist for convenience sake and because you're too lazy to actually scroll up.

>in >>1440641 , that poster calls out >>1440610
>>1440817 is >>1440610 >>1440703
>>1440795
>only two of those are me
>one: >>1440610
>two: >>1440703
>tries to deny it
Yes, >>1440817 is a liar. A self-owning one

>>1440826
Those aren't the two that are me, retard.

>>1440827
>Those aren't the two that are me
>aren't
>>1440795
>only two of those are me
>are
The duality of the cornered called out deny everything self-owning liar.

>>1440828
You've selected the wrong two out of the list, are you retarded?

>>1440829
>reduced to ad hominems: three times, along with denying those posts aren't you
Charlie Kirk believes you. Just as you 'believe' those posts aren't by you. But then, you cannot spell 'Believe' without the word Lie.
Chuckie believed in God. Reality proved more than his opinions wrong. Reality doesn't care about your feelings. Or your opinions.
Trump could have said right at the start of a certain scandal that Biden had destroyed the Epstein Files: he would have had plausible deniability, but it was too late. It's too late for you as well, when it comes to denying that's not you.

>>1440830
Losing a 2/5 guessing game's a weird reason to have a breakdown, but you do you.

>>1440410
I'm seeing images of ICE goons dressing up in fully geared up armour like they're in fucking Afghanistan. Goddamned LARPers need to be shot at so we can see how they really handle the military life.

>>1440831
>can't take the L
>can only do himself
>you could have said those posts were by me
>except for certain boards in 4chan there are no poster IDs or forced naming, we are all Anonymous
There was your chance for plausible deniability, by saying those posts were by me. But it's too late now. Any & all denials by you now are just damage control. Charlie Kirk believes you're not the one who made those posts. But he's the only one.

>>1440833
losing a 2/5 guessing game is still a weird reason to have a breakdown, but I hope you enjoy it.

>>1440834
>still projecting
>still can't take the L
Yes, I'm enjoying your weird damage control while you break down.

>>1440835
Selecting the wrong 2 in a list of five really seems to have been the last straw for you.

>>1440836
>straw
You're really grasping at them with your damage control.

>>1440838
You simply selected the wrong 2. I'm not sure why this is such a big deal for you.

>>1440840
I'm not sure why making constant denials is an even bigger deal for you, when - as with Trump saying Biden destroyed the Epstein Files, thus having plausible deniability: but that was too late, you could have said those posts were by me. It's too late for you, with what's now such a big deal or you'd just stop posting.
I don't need to, because I didn't need to make those posts. But you could have had that plausible deniability. But you're rediced to making it such a big deal or you'd stop posting. I don't need to, you see. That's the difference.

>>1440841
Nice schizo rant, I guess.

>>1440842
>schizo
>>1440795
>retard
>>1440827
>retard
>>1440829
>retarded
>>1440842
>schizo
>again reduced to ad hominems
I'm not. That's the difference.

>>1440843
Oh no, you got called retarded when you guessed wrong, call the cops.

>those needing to resort to ad hominems
Very telling

>>1440832
Have you seen the videos they make of themselves? It's pathetic. They look like fucking Call of Duty villains.
Should deploy them to Venezuela. Call it a "preemptive deportation action" or something.
>like they're in fucking Afghanistan
Or that!

>>1440848
>Afghanistan
Send ICE there to reclaim Bagram air base, Trump demands that it be reclaimed for the good ol' US of A!

>>1440847
I hadn't realized you were seething so hard you had to go non-responsive.

Wow. Someone's got a certain poster living in their head rent free and is making such a big deal about it

>>1440853
cry harder, I guess.

My, but someone needs to cry by projecting at someone they're obsessed with

>>1440857
yawn.

Having someong living in their head rent free makes others tired of their obsession with someone

>>1440860
You've become quite boring, and have reduced yourself to something of a puddle after your breakdown.
I accept your numerous concessions, and thank you for trolling yourself for so long on my account.

>>1440848
There's a pretty high chance they're all muslims, so you're not wrong about the CoD villains thing.

It must be boring for that which is obsessed with someone, thus trolls itself and concedes to the one it is obsessed with

No face coverings?
I am sorry, officer, but you still have some skin on your face. Let me help you with that.

>>1440873
Bonerific!

I always wanted to say that.

>>1440863
When I say CoD villains I mean some Blackwater PMC shit.
Oh no, they're mostly white trash. Some of the dumbest colored people on the planet as well, "Surely siding with the group that wants all the brown people dead can only end well for me!' but it's still mostly white.

Weird world. If ICE were bringing in more illegal immigrants to California so they could up their electoral apportionment numbers yet again, the media would paint them as heroes and Newdom would be building statues of ICE agents raising a Mexican flag atop a hill.
But image trying to enforce the law a would impact California's purposely inflated electoral apportionment and they're enemies.
Not to mention for a decent amount of time a couple years ago, Californians (the two remaining American citizens left in California) couldn't even go outside without masks.
So, simply, WTF Caliiggerfornia?

>>1440411
>“To ICE, unmask. What are you afraid of?” he said.
I guess probably the increasingly violent left

>>1440410
Now do one for protesters. What do peaceful protesters have to hide? Don't they want others to know how mich they support a cause?

What is stopping ICE agents from wearing Judge Dredd (1995) helmets?
I would love to give the "I am the LAW!, these blocks are under arrest" speach while wearing that getup.

>>1440903
Type your real name in the space provided for the post, anon.

Should be fine.

>>1440908
Abdulah patel Ranjeesh

>>1440877
>But its still mostly white
Imagine unironically siding with all the uncivilized browns rather than the people who built civilization merely because your fee-fees have been hurt.

>>1440919
>the people who built civilization
Progressives?
I understand that the party of illiterate morons have been completely indoctrinated by the GOP and their Jewish overlords to pretend they're not white trash, so I don't need to hear the retarded MAGA response

>>1440923
>Progressives?
Bait.

>>1440889
How did you get to be this racist?

End Qualified Immunity!

>>1440901
They shouldn't be in that job if they're afraid of Americans.

>>1441003
Okay. Post your home address.

>>1441036
why don't you post yours first esl shill

>>1441037
You're afraid of Americans? I thought it was no big deal.

>>1441039
the harder you pretend to be american the more obvious it is that you aren't

>>1440925
>Americans are uneducated to the point they think progressives and liberals are the same thing

>>1441036
>>1441039
I'm not the one abducting brown people for Stephen Miller.

>>1440889
>Weird world. If ICE were bringing in more illegal immigrants to California so they could up their electoral apportionment numbers yet again, the media would paint them as heroes and Newdom would be building statues of ICE agents raising a Mexican flag atop a hill.
>But image trying to enforce the law a would impact California's purposely inflated electoral apportionment and they're enemies.
You live in a world of delusion. Immigrant populations overwhelmingly benefit Republicans. Your conspiracy is based in a universe that doesn't exist.

>>1441058
>i am a lying retard and i hope you accept my lie

not fuck off retard also didnt ask

>>1441042
>>Americans are uneducated to the point they think progressives and liberals are the same thing
More bait.

>>1441105
But he's right though.

>>1441058
>Immigrant populations overwhelmingly benefit Republicans.
Then why aren't the protectors of the ILLEGAL immigrants voting for Republicans? And why are Democrats so intent on helping Republicans?
Apportionment numbers count non-citizens. And just like the pre-civil war south, California is attempting to exploit the system.

>>1441110
Ask Trump since he employs so many of them.

>>1441110
Why did you capitalize 'illegal'?

>>1441364
It is Trump pretending to be Q, who is really Steve Bannon, who is really Alex Jones, who is really Hillary Clinton. Try and keep up , hon.

>>1441372
kek I thought it was that 8kun admin guy

>>1441003
>Americans
more concerned with the Venezuelans, Columbians, Salvadorians, Guatamalans, Haitians, etc

>>1441387
Scooby-Dooby Doo, where are you? We got some work to do now.

>>1441461
Why?