DoJ is asking for a 30 year sentence for the leftist transvestite who attempted to assassinate supreme court justice brett kavanaughDOJ wants to put attempted https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/5513047-assassination-attempt-kavanaugh-justice/Kavanaugh assassin behind bars for at least 30 years Federal prosecutors said Friday they will seek to imprison the person who attempted to assassinate Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh at his home in 2022 for at least 30 years and up to life. Prosecutors’ sentencing memo came as the defendant’s public defenders newly indicated their client now uses female pronouns and goes by Sophie Roske. “She has not asked to recaption the case,” the public defenders wrote, noting that Roske’s legal name hadn’t changed. “Out of respect for Ms. Roske, the balance of this pleading and counsel’s in-court argument will refer to her as Sophie and use female pronouns,” it continued. Roske will be sentenced Oct. 3 after pleading guilty to a felony charge of attempting to assassinate a Supreme Court justice in April.Roske admitted to traveling from California to Kavanaugh’s home in the Washington, D.C., suburbs in June 2022. After arriving, Roske abandoned the plans after speaking with 911 and a family member. Authorities recovered a pistol, crowbar, ammunition, zip ties and other weapons. Roske wanted to change the conservative justice’s views on major abortion and gun cases, court documents show. Prosecutors say Roske also sent Discord messages days earlier indicating two other justices were targets. “The defendant sought single-handedly and irrevocably to alter an entire branch of the United States government through violence,” prosecutors wrote in Friday’s filing. Their sentencing memo urges U.S. District Judge Deborah Boardman to follow the sentencing guidelines range of 30 years to life in prison, describing Roske’s crime as an act of terrorism.
I feel like this is sending the wrong message if you want people to back out of this sort of shit. This is the sort of person you send to counseling, not throw the book at.I mean for fuck's sake, what happens when the next assassin with a moment of clarity, but then realizes "Wait, I'm already gonna die in prison either way! Might as well get what I came for!"
>>1440678When you back someone in a corner and refuse to hear their grievance or just don't give a shit because the money is too good regardless of who you hurt this is expected, nay, DEMANDED.
>>1440667OP shows a photo of Paul pelosi's attempted assassin
>>1440678Trans is a mental illness or it isn't. Pick your choose.
A mental illness caused by chemicals in the water which unfortunately makes more money for rich folks, some the chems will keep piling up. You can't poison the water without drinking it in some form.
>>1440667>After arriving, Roske abandoned the plans after speaking with 911 and a family member. So not even attempted murder. Actual fucking mass shooters get less. They're only going for this sentencing because someone had the audacity to come for the top pig.
>>1440886Why don't trans people staring killing Muslims? They aren't a fan of their ideology either.
>>1440678And this soft on crime mentality from democrats is exactly why they have such high crime rates. >inb4 durr muh red states muh per capita muh Wyoming moar deader dan Chicago derp derp derpConstantly taking these people out of jail, 'not throwing the book at them' but 'giving them counseling' keeps giving us tragedies like Iryna Zarutska. It's why giving straw-purchasers and gun-runners probation in Chicago led to what eight dead last week and two dozen shot? It's how California gets a serial rapist who attacks more people while on probation. >I mean for fuck's sake, what happens when the next assassin with a moment of clarity, but then realizes "Wait, I'm already gonna die in prison either way! Might as well get what I came for!"Marilyn Manson said it best: "You can always escape hell by not believing in it, but you cannot escape death and you cannot escape prison." It's long past time we start giving criminals something to fear.
Why does the court go light on rich pedophiles then?
>>1440895>>1440898early morning russian shill breaking down, making easy ESL errors
>>1440681The two aren't exclusive. The same way you can be a straight cis white dude with mental illness or also a straight white cis dude without mental illness, it is also possible to be a gay or trans person with mental illness or a gay and trans person without mental illness. >>1440935Rich pedophiles run every political party and major corporation. Judges who don't want their brakes to fail coming home at night treat them with kid gloves.
>>1440945It was rhetorical >>1440935But thank you for explaining it for those not in the know, truly.
>>1440898>And this soft on crime mentality from democrats is exactly why they have such high crime rates.But crime and violent crime in general are currently at lower rates than they've been in decades, so what are you referring to?
>>1440947So we didn't see a spike in crime within the last 5 years? Why don't you tell me what those rates were from 2019 to today.
>>1440956It was under Trump's mismanagement during the pandemic in 2020.
>>1440957Yes I'm sure it was all Trump's fault that rioters felt the need to throw molotovs into minority-owned stores all over the country, but last I checked his presidency ended (first term at least) in the beginning of 2021... y'know before we saw the massive spike in crime?
>>1440678>This is the sort of person you send to counseling, not throw the book at.No, just lock them up and get them out of society.
>>1440956https://www.statista.com/statistics/191219/reported-violent-crime-rate-in-the-usa-since-1990/I see a small uptick around 2020 and then 2022. Overall it's a pretty steady trend though. Where is the massive problem you are alluding to?
>>1440959The massive spike in crime happened only in 2020. It started going down the moment Biden took office, so yes, it was Trump's fault.
>>1440971You mean the crime rate that trended down for 3/4 of Trump's term until the 2020 Democrat lockdowns happened?
>>1440898>And this soft on crime mentality from democrats is exactly why they have such high crime rates.Most crime is prosecuted at the state level and red states are the ones with high crime.
>>1440979>Most crime is prosecuted at the state levellmao you're 100% not American.
>>1440973No, you're the only one whose hallucinating that
>>1440988>According to FBI reports, the violent crime rate decreased in 2017 and 2018, and into 2019.>But then in 2020, there was a sharp increase in murders and many violent crime categories, coinciding with the onset of the COVID-19 pandemic, social disruptions, etc.The reason you dudes are losing the national debate is that you're not prepared to argue the facts.
>>1440973What about the crime rate that dropped steadily by 16% over the course of the Obama administration? Funny how you ignored that.
>>1440992>Funny how you ignored that.He ignored it because its completely unrelated to what you initially said. This is why you guys are failing. You cant even engage in good faith debate or discussion.
>>1440990>the factsYour link literally says that the rise was a coincidence.
>>1440997>Your linkThere is no link. You fucking bot.
>>1440993You're the one trying to put forth a false narrative here.
>>1440993But what I originally said was this >>1440947 which was correct...
>>1440998Then you said it was a coincidence. But you got it from a link, faggot
>>1440983>lmao you're 100% not American.>At year-end 2021, 1,000,000 people were incarcerated in state prisons; 157,000 people were incarcerated in federal prisons; and 636,000 people were incarcerated in local jailsNo. I am. I know me being remotely educated about my own country might have you believe otherwise though.
>>1440970If you look at this chart it's kind of fascinating. You see violent crime rates drop significantly under the Clinton administration. Then during the Bush jr. years things flat line a little, then drop a little more under Obama but not nearly as much and then during Trump/Biden/Trump it sort of wavers back and forth but still stays pretty low. It will be fascinating to see what the numbers are like five years from now, assuming numbers like this are still released to the public.
>>1441009>prosecuted>incarcerated>looks like the same word to me!fucking esl shills
>>1441012Shut up pajeet you literally can't fool anyone into thinking you are American when you so blatantly have not a clue about how things work in America If you are prosecuted and sentenced to incarceration by a non federal agency, you will always be placed in a non-federal facility.Conversely if you are prosecuted federally and sentenced to incarceration, you will always be placed in a federal facility.You are
>>1441012Not him, non American here. What's the important distinction? Not everyone prosecuted is incarcerated, obviously. Are you saying the Dems prosecute a lot of people but don't incarcerate them? I am genuinely curious what point you're going for
>>1441012Pretty sure prosecution and incarceration correlate pretty fucking heavily unless you're arguing local and/or federal have more prosecutions for shit that doesn't have incarceration as a penalty.But if you're arguing that nonsense, I fucking remind you civil infractions aren't crimes and I said crimes.Also bitching about the government being too light on civil infractions is fucking idiotic.
>>1441013>>1441014>>1441015I guess its not weird for shills to pivot between two disconnected statistics in order to lie
Imagine telling anonymous 4chan people to shut up.
>>1441016Let me break it down for you, non American pajeet shill.He said most crime is prosecuted at the state level. He used data for federal vs local incarceration to back his argument, because federally prosecuted people are sent to federal prisons, and locally prosecuted people are sent to local jails.You don't have this background knowledge on the subject because you aren't American and that's why these two stats don't seem at all related to you.
>>1441022Okay. So do you have another statistic showing that incarceration rates for state and federal are the same, or did you not consider that everything you've said so far is meaningless without that?
>>1441023fuck off, shillstop falseflagging and just post the actual prosecution figures
>>1441014Prosecution = formally chargingIncarceration = either put in jail or prison. Jail doesn't need a conviction, prison does.
>>1440667>no death penaltyRidiculous.
>>1441028Yeah as I said, that's the obvious bit. What is the point you are trying to draw from that distinction in relation to the conversation at hand? That's the question.
>>1441030When a billionaire gets fined at the federal level, its not an incarceration so its not a crime. Or something equally stupid
>>1441032Ahh I gotcha now. We're on the same page.
>>1441033Yeah, its the same kind of 50 IQ takes we get from this shill>hurrr, no one cares about Dem areas having lower per capita crime because they keep releasing people and re-arresting themWhich makes Dem states have even less criminals per capita, but they don't realize they're self-BTFOing most of the time
>>1441034I think anyone who doesn't realize the Democrats and Republicans are just Coke and Pepsi interchangeable oligarchs with paper thin apparent differences to draw people apart is a sheep.
>>1441040republicans are celebrating cages in the middle of alligator infested swamps, what's the democrat equivalent?
>>1441032Their subsets. If the pool of prosecutions is larger the pool of incarcerations will be larger.The take the L and move on with your life
>>1441028>Jail doesn't need a conviction, prison does.Wrong.If you can't Google it I'll btfo you happily
>>1441044god you're esl. you disgust me shill
>>1441045>Wrong.While I'm not sure that's true in all cases, it is generally true. Jail is short term holding including pretrial and short sentences. Prison is long term.That said, this distinction isn't relevant to the discussion at hand, since by far most people are in state prisons.
>>1441047Its completely irrelevant. Prosecutions are tracked, so they're just trying to muddy the waters with shit by bringing up the incarceration rate out of nowhere
>>1441043Palestine and sending Isreal as many fucking bombs as they want lol. You think alligator Alcatraz is bad? They've been supporting the worst genocide in at least decades if not more likely centuries in the open and all they do is shrug and say of course they have to support Isreal murdering every single Palestinian child because not doing so would be "antisemitic". Even though the children dying are virtually all ethnically Semitic but they are being murdered by Jews of a wide range of mostly European ethnicities who claim to he Semitic as a form of gaslighting.
>>1441053you really are a clueless shill aren't you
>>1440678This is the sort of person who should thank their lucky stars they're not getting the death penalty. Everyone who thinks like them belongs in prison, too. There's only room for one kind of American - the kind committed to the safety, security and prosperity of America. If you're a commie, a freak, if you hate men, whites or Western civilization, you should fuck off to the third world so they can deal with you before our own governments have to. Simple as.
>>1441047>While I'm not sure that's true in all cases, it is generally true. Jail is short term holding including pretrial and short sentences. Prison is long term.Nope.Prison is a federal pen. You go there for whole awaiting federal trial (barring bail) and you go there after being convicted of a federal crime.Jail is local. You can either go to a state pen for long term sentences, or a city or county jail for shorter stays*Regardless* your original claim was that prison required a conviction while jail does not. This is also false. Someone on federal charges will be held in a prison while awaiting trial if they don't get bail, just like Epstein
>>1441053They're browns, Anon. Browns aren't people, you don't have to go through a performative moral quandry over it. Life isn't fair, and that being the case, its generally good when the browns are doing the dying. Our ancestors understood this, its a shame you were so miseducated as to mistakenly think they're human beings and worthy of respect.
>>1441064>Prison is a federal pen>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_York_state_prisons>*Regardless* your original claim was that prison required a conviction while jail does notI didn't originate that claim>Someone on federal charges will be held in a prison while awaiting trial if they don't get bail, just like EpsteinEpstein died in a jail.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Correctional_Center,_New_York>located on Park Row behind the Thurgood Marshall United States Courthouse>Most prisoners held at MCC New York have pending cases in the United States District Court for the Southern District of New York. MCC New York also holds prisoners serving brief sentences.
>>1441050>Prosecutions are trackedSo post the stats if you're right, ass-hat.
>>1441071>you should prove my point for meshills getting dumber every day
>>1441070>Epstein died in a jail.>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolitan_Correctional_Center,_New_York"It is operated by the Federal Bureau of Prisons"Umm anon? It's a prison. It's literally operated by the federal bureau of prisons. If that doesn't make it a prison, then I'd like for you to distinguish what the difference between a jail and a prison is in your mind, And preferably backup your interpretation with some sort of authoritative source
>>1441075>some sort of authoritative sourcedoes a fentanyl withdrawal hallucination by some Q retard count?
>>1441073>you should prove my point for meI don't agree with you, dipshit. If you can't prove *your* point for me, shut the flying fuck up.>>1441075The federal bureau of prisons also operates federal jails.
>>1441077Who refers to facilities operated by the bureau of prisons as jails besides yourself?>>1441076Shut up retard
>>1441077>no, its not my point, its your point!I'll accept your concession then, thanks for disproving yourself
>>1441087Okay, Tuxedo Mask.>>1441079NBC, The New York Times, The Guardian, The Washington Post, Forbes, and the federal government itself.>https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/former-inmate-sentenced-prison-bribery-and-contraband-scheme>The United States Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Jay Clayton, announced that ANTHONY ELLISON, a former inmate of the Metropolitan Correctional Center (“MCC”), a federal jail
>>1441079>>1441109And if the MCC sounds familiar, that's cause IT'S WHERE EPSTEIN FUCKING DIED!>federal jailShut the everfucking love up.
>arguing the semantics of prison vs jail for hours because a right wing shill claimed per capita crime rates are a poor measure of criminality
>>1440971>It started going down the moment Biden took office, so yes, it was Trump's fault.>Houston, TX broke it's record for homicides in 2021 after defunding their police in 2020I'm sorry can you define "down"?
>>1441140>whatabout red state murder rate
>>1441140>after defunding their police in 2020>https://www.houstonpublicmedia.org/articles/news/2020/06/10/375627/houston-passes-budget-that-increases-police-funding-amid-calls-to-defund/Damn. Apparently increasing policy budgets leads to more crimes. Defund the police, I guess.
Imagine how crusty Melania's pussy must be after all these years. Probably tight as fuck, but the dry, flaky crust must be rough.
>>1440667can they castrate him before they let him out though.
