I wonder if Russia was behind the 100k fake cellular gsm servers being used to threaten US politicians over the phone that the secret service just discovered in New York City.

>>1441522
>TACO
You guys are trying so hard to make this a thing. Cute!

Zelenskyy scares Trump like Dumbledore scares Voldimort. Zelenskyy is a real leader and all the nations could learn from him.

>>1441528
Totally organic.

>>1441531
Actually is. Have you seen a leader fight with his men? And I don't mean Trump yelling at his own hires.

>>1441526
it's already a thing, google it retard

Ukraine won my heart with their heart. Respect is earned and they earned it.

>>1441538
I can't believe you're so calm about this
Dumbass leftists had control of the White House for 4 years and failed to win the Ukraine War
What was Biden doing? Beside sleeping, that is.

>>1441544
Why didn't Trump stop Putin in his first term before it got bad?

>>1441550
Invasion happened under Obama and then Biden, dipshit

>>1441551
Ha, go feed Grandfather some yogurt, leftist
Only Trump is strong enough to retake Ukraine for Ukrainians

>>1441544
Just like most Democrats, he was praying that documentation of his and his son's corrupt dealings in Ukraine were completely destroyed.

>>1441551
What do you think they were doing during Trump's first term? Nothing?

>>1441544
It is war.
What happened to Trump ending it Day 1?
I didn't see Biden saying he could singlehandedly end it, I saw him working against a lot of different forces, including Russia sympathizers spurned on by an angry Trump over his loss and continued court losses.

>>1441559
Then America First agendas, as money goes elsewhere anyways... we can save that for another day though since the rapture didn't happen and we have more time.(yes, a rapture joke)

I don't remember MAGA being anti-Ukraine
I think anon needs to disconnect form 4butts for a minute.

>>1441573
How did you forget Trump trying and failing to extort Zelensky into going on CNN to say bad things about Biden?

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/09/25/politics/donald-trump-ukraine-transcript-call

>>1441573
>just straight up lies everything
Classic maga tactics

>>1441578
Are you confusing being anti-Democrat with being anti-Ukraine?

>>1441544
What has Trump actually done so far, aside from cutting off aid? I want actions, dammit.

I'm sick and tired of this Trump sane washing. How often has he "changed his mind" on Putin and Ukraine now? An nothing has ever happened.
The guy says a different thing every day of the week depending on what he impulsively thinks will sounds good in the moment.
The recent Russian airspace violations are only happening because they understand that Trump is a paper tiger at best.
Gotta say, I'm impressed he managed to write a post about the war without blaming it on Obama, Biden and Zelensky though and letting everyone know that it's not his.
>>1441544
>>1441559
>>1441605
Biden does deserve a lot of blame. For instance he (and the west in general) never really had a plan for the war. It was always "support as long as it takes" which translates to us making sure Ukraine doesn't collapse, but nothing really beyond that. The failed counteroffensive in 2023 or the Russian incursion in Kharkiv are direct consequences of western escalation management.
But at least Biden wasn't erratic and unpredictable like Trump is.
>>1441573
Republicans definetely have pro-Ukraine people in it. But MAGA? I've seen plenty of MAGA people parrot literal Kremlin propaganda.

>>1441522
>a dramatic shift from the U.S. leader’s call on Kyiv to make concessions to end the war
Is it though? All he says is
>I don't deny that if Europe mobilized enough resources (which it at the moment doesn't do and maybe even can't do in it's current state) Ukraine could theoretically win
>The US doesn't really care we can sell weapons to Europe and they can do whatever with them
This has pretty much always been his position. He just dressed it up in some dramatic speech

>"Putin and Russia are in BIG Economic trouble, and this is the time for Ukraine to act," he added, labelling Russia as a "paper tiger".

>In response, Russian President Vladimir Putin's spokesman, Dmitry Peskov, said "Russia is in no way a tiger".

>"It's more associated with a bear and there is no such thing as a paper bear," he told Russia's RBK Radio.
LMAO how is this real

>>1441615
lol no it hasn't.

>>1441617
Fair enough, I guess I also worded it poorly.
But what I mean is that this isn't some great 180. Trump has been trying to withdraw from this war for a while now, refusing to put pressure on Russia and leave it up to the Europeans to do whatever about it.
This post is just more of that, dressed up Trumpist language

>>1441614
You're a retarded shill. Biden didn't give a shit because this entire conflict was just money laundering for political favors at the expense of millions of Russian and Ukrainian lives. It could have easily been stopped before it even began. Zelensky wants to keep it going and Putin is too egotistical to stop. That's why MAGA has no sympathy for it

>>1441623
this. Trump is doing what he always wanted to do. He has always wanted Ukraine to pay for the weapons they send.

Unironically, this is the American way. During the Russians and British had to pay for the weapons we gave them.
>The British made their last payment for WW2 weapons in the early 2000's

Tl;dr: If Euro's want to have stupid wars, we want to make money

He stands for nothing so he falls for everything. He loves money but will waffle if you can get him imagining the crowds cheering for him. When that doesn't work some pussy does the trick.(like that pun?)

>>1441632
Which is terribly short sighted and will harm American foreign relations for years and years to come, even beyond Trump's presidency
>>1441628
>You're a retarded shill
For what?
> just money laundering for political favors
How? Do you think when you read aid package dollar amounts on the news that that's suitcases full of cash being deposited into Ukrainian bank accounts?
>It could have easily been stopped before it even began
I don't think anyone reasonable is denying that the west failed to provide a strong enough deterrent against Russia
>Zelensky wants to keep it going
Kinda dishonest way to frame it. He wants to keep it going because at the moment the only alternative is unconditional surrender to Russia.
It's like painting the allies as warmongers for not accepting Hitlers peace offers in 1939 and 1940

>>1441616
Reminds me of an exchange I saw on some Russian commentary show
>you know, cigarettes have warnings on them telling pregnant women not to smoke, why shouldn't alcohol also have warnings?
>why would alcohol tell women not to smoke?

>>1441645
>Which is terribly short sighted and will harm American foreign relations for years and years to come, even beyond Trump's presidency
Its what made us the superpower we are.

LMAO. Fat ass broke the escalator, openly admits he uses a teleprompter. What a fucking joke. No wonder his speech was stupid af. Then... Someone did this! It's a conspiracy! Perhaps karma just owes you one, fatty. Or it's prophesy of all you touch.

>>1441672
What superpower? Obesity or ignorance?

>>1441676
Is your country one we bombed or one we have a military base on?

What's this commie propaganda?

>>1441672
Not quite, there was also a lot of soft power involved.
However what Trump is doing is undermining trust into the US as an ally. Which will reach beyond his presidency I would assume and also should drive down US arms sales (which will increase costs). Sure there are some systems like fighter jets where you pretty much have no alternative to buying American, but I assume military planners around the world will think thrice before relying on the US for anything that they don't have to.

>>1441681
Soft power isn't real. Totally made up.

>>1441683
It's literally the reason why half the former soviet block is now a US ally, but okay

>>1441684
No. That would be economic and military power.

>>1441685
Wait, do you even know what soft power is?

>>1441688
Yes. Its something that is totally made up.

>>1441684

"ally" like al-qaeda, saudi arabia and israel

who needs enemies

>>1441522
Putin cut off Trump so he turned against Russia.

>>1441632
Taking more than 50 years to pay back is same as paying nothing. Why?
>Inflation

>>1442009
>has never negotiated a contract in his life
You peg the interest rate to the inflation rate. Standard shit. Fuck outta here wagie.

>>1442010
So did britain pay for the interest? Answer for me

>>1442011
Yes. They refinanced in 1946.

>>1442012
1. Britain did not repay the World War II Lend-Lease debt (they payed nothing for the weapons they 'borrowed' effort)

2. 'The loan was for US$3.75 billion (equivalent to $60.47 billion in 2024) at a low 2% interest rate'; 2% interest is basically zero rate considering how severe the inflation was especially from 60s to 80s

>>1442052
They paid it in other ways besides money.

>>1441689
So that's a "no" then

>>1441526
Trump is a bitch and caves under any pressure

>>1442103
He doesn't care about Ukraine. He just wants to build a Trump Tower in Moscow and Putin is ignoring him.

>>1441526
>apparently there's no reason for a certain foreign word to be in the Oxford English Dictionary thus officially part of the English language, but 'Hentai' is
>there's no reason for a certain word made popular by certain people on YouTube - including the likes of Ashens, and other influencers in English speaking countries - to be in the Oxford English Dictionary, thus officially part of the English language, but 'Unboxing' is
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_Always_Chickens_Out
When it comes to proving opinions wrong, people don't need to try. Those with their wrong opinions being proved thusly, constantly need to be tryhards though.

>>1441551
>did the Allies annex Sudetenland? Did the Allies invade Poland, thus start WWII?
Did NATO annex Crimea? Did NATO invade Ukraine?
Is the eagle on the Seal of the President of the United States looking in the direction of the arrows since 20th January 2025 - despite claims by that candidate in its campaign the previous year of 'No More Foreign Wars' - and not the olive branch?

>>1442339
I mean the moment mr "No more wars!" and "Pro peace president" renamed the Department of Defense to the Department of War, you know he was full of shit.

>>1442362
Why is that?