“He was not aware that the real effect of that starts Oct. 1, not Dec. 31,” Schumer added.

Thune and Johnson have both said they aim to address the expiring health care premium tax credits later this year, but they are against attaching them to the funding stopgap that needs to pass by the Sept. 30 deadline.

Schumer said he and Jeffries emphasized both the impending expiration of health care subsidies under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) and the problem of pocket rescissions and impoundments, which they view as attempts to usurp congressional spending authority.


Thune disputed Schumer’s characterization of the meeting.
Schumer said he urged Trump to prevail on Republican leaders to add to the seven-week government funding stopgap measure language to extend the ACA subsidies and address pocket rescissions.

“We told the president he can solve the problem by demanding of the legislative leaders, of Thune and of Johnson, that we start off with the ACA — just take our provision on the ACA and put it in their bill,” he said of the House-passed continuing resolution.

“It’s in the president’s hands whether to avoid a shutdown or not. He has to convince the Republican leaders. Now we know why they didn’t want him to meet with us,” Schumer added.
“I think Schumer is desperate to change the subject. I don’t know what he’s talking about. I mean we’re all on the same page,” Thune said as he walked into his office after a vote late Monday afternoo

>>1443408
>“I think Schumer is desperate to change the subject. I don’t know what he’s talking about. I mean we’re all on the same page,”
He knows exactly what Schumer was talking about.

Schumer is an embarrassment to every politial party on earth. He is an abomination.

>>1443411
>Schumer is an embarrassment to every politial party on earth. He is an abomination.
Why do Democrats keep electing him?

>>1443415
New Yorkers like that the Democrat minority leader of the Senate is from their state.

>>1443437
Uh huh. So I'm assuming he competes in a primary?

>>1443438
I'm not a Newyawker. I don't know how they do it up there. They might have chickens pick the winner by pecking a special gourd for all I know.

>Republicans earlier this year: "We don't want anything from you, Democrats"
>Democrats earlier this year: "Okay, its all on you then"

>Republicans now: "Waaaaaaah Dems, please pass our bill or the government will shut down"
>Democrats now: "Okay, we want this then"
>Republicans now: "Nooooo, do it for free"
>Democrats now: "Its all on you then"

>>1443407
Asking a Radical to stop a Radical MAKES NO SENSE!!!

>>1443439
So chuck Schumer holds office because Democrats vote for him then?

>>1443450
Not all New Yorkers vote for democrats, but enough of them do.

>>1443442
What is supposed to be radical about Chuck Schumer?

>>1443415
Blue no matter who. The Left isn't any smarter than the Right.

Schumer is the NY version of Lindsay Graham.

>>1443452
Idk. Apparently he's claims to have found middle ground with trump in the form of preventing increases of health care insurance to rural America, and I guess that's enough to get him labeled as a radical by his own party.

Democrats are cucks. They want billions for healthcare for immigrants. They're conveniently leaving this part out when the media frames this as the GOP being the radical ones

>>1443492
Nice job repeating Trump's bullshit as he tries to hide how he's cutting 20 million in healthcare for AMERICANS.

>>1443494
They aren't cutting anything with the proposed short term funding bill that Democrats are blocking

>>1443494
>20 million in healthcare for AMERICANS.
wut?

>>1443496
He's refusing to renew Obamacare tax credits that are due to expire this year. It's effectively the same as cutting them, as either way it causes a lot of people to lose their healthcare. And Trump, being the bullheaded retard he is, refuses to compromise at all with the other half of the country.

>>1443509
>He's refusing to renew Obamacare tax credits that are due to expire this year
Whoa! Republicans are doing something they ran on doing for the last 15 years!?!?! Wild!

>>1443512
It's not surprising he's trying it. The problem is, Dems can and will draw a line in the sand and refuse to play ball, and Trump seems to keep forgetting that he still needs them to actually approve spending. This shutdown is what happens when you refuse to fucking compromise with the other half of the country.

>>1443515
What you dont seem to understand is that a shutdowns are damaging to the party who causes the shutdown. Trump doesnt give a shit about the shutdown.

>>1443521
trump needs his ship money though

>>1443507
ESL kun

>>1443515
>The problem is, Dems can and will draw a line in the sand and refuse to play bal
What do you mean "can" and "will"?
That's exactly what they are doing

>>1443521
Whoa! Democrats are doing something they ran on doing for the last 15 years!?!?! wild!

>>1443590
Democrats will never shut the government down

>>1443623
They're not going to vote for the spending bill that cuts healthcare if that's what you mean.

>>1443482
>I guess that's enough to get him labeled as a radical by his own party.
Source for this bullshit?

>>1443627
>Hurr Trump is spending too much
>Votes against spending cuts
Hopefully an ICE agent bashes your skull in, jeet

>>1443630
Its wild that nonamericans care so much about pretending to be white they'll wish death on actual americans

>>1443623
Literally are going to in about 24 hours. Trump literally told them to go fuck themselves and even their usually pathetic leadership is keeping to not cooperating.

>>1443630
Should have cut spending in the big stinky bill instead of ballooning the debt to fantastical new levels. The time for cuts is over.

>>1443633
>24 hours
12
For what it's worth, both sides told the other side to go fuck themselves. Republicans want to extend the current spending bill as is and Democrats told them to go fuck themselves they won't agree to that unless it additional money is spent on extending additional Obamacare credits passes during COVID and Republicans told them to go fuck themselves

>>1443637
>For what it's worth, both sides told the other side to go fuck themselves
You misunderstand; I didn't mean that metaphorically
>https://www.politico.com/news/2025/09/26/they-will-pay-a-huge-price-for-this-shutdown-ready-trump-expects-democrats-to-blink-00581812
>“He read all the shit they’re asking for, and he said, ‘on second thought, go fuck yourself,’” the White House official said.

>>1443638
We know, you meant it as a shill because Dems never did it but Republicunts did and you need to project

>>1443623
Republicans control the house.
Republicans control the senate.
Republicans control the white house.
Republicans control the supreme court.
No, retard, the democrats are not shutting down the government, the republicans are. Trump explicitly told his party not to negotiate with the democrats, this is 100% not on them.

>>1443643
Anon he literally said, point blank "go fuck yourself".

>>1443638
It is a really interesting strategy given that the party of big government is threatening the party of small government and ancaps with a government shutdown if more spending doesn't get added to the current spending plan which they themselves claimed a few months ago was already wildly over budget.

>>1443650
>>1443650 #
Isn't the issue here not that Republicans have a majority in Senate, but that they don't have the 60 votes needed to bypass the fillabusters being used by Democrats to block the continuation of the current budget?

>>1443657
Democrats want billions for illegal aliens

>>1443659
The point is that it's absurd to accuse the other guy of fucking things up when you control every branch of government. And no, the democrats are not at fault for "fill bustering" when the republicans are explicitly refusing to negotiate with them.

>>1443661
Democrats don't want billions in tax breaks for billionaires and for millions of Americans to lose their health care. Republicans do.

>>1443659
The Senate can get rid of the filibuster any time they want. It's a made-up rule that they can abolish with 50 votes.

>>1443662
Billions for illegals, funding for NPR and PBS, restoring all the fraud to Medicaid, and not covid bullshit spending.

>>1443665
How to Maga:
When asked: "Why did Donald do {dumb_thing}?" blame illegal immigrants, queers, black people, or Hillary Clinton and Joe Biden

>>1443667
Standard Republicunt thought control is to reduce everything to a facetious argument you can just say no to.
Dems are opposing the Republican spending bill? Its because they want billions for immigrants
Its not true, but it shuts down all discussion and rational thinking on the republicunt side.

>>1443662
>the republicans are explicitly refusing to negotiate with them.
Well, Democrats are fillabustering stopping the same exact unchanged spending bill we currently have right now.

https://www.newsweek.com/government-shutdown-2025-live-news-updates-10802684
Republicans plan for continuing our current spending budget with no changes was shot down with only 55 out of the required 60 vote

The Democrat plan to add over $1 trillion dollars in debt via deficit spending was also shot down, only garnering 47 votes.

The shutdown is happening tonight

>>1443675
i think i know phil a buster. actually isn't that you? you're a busta

>>1443753
>The Democrat plan to add over $1 trillion dollars in debt
It doesn't add anything more than what's already there now. Why is every republican talking point a pile of disingenuous garbage?

>>1443756
False, liar-kun
"The Senate Democrats’ proposal, which included over $1 trillion in healthcare spending and extended funding through October, was blocked 47-53."

>>1443756
>It doesn't add anything more than what's already there now.
You are thinking of the Republican bill which is simply an extension of the current spending plan with zero changes.
As the guardian reports, the Democrat spending bill which was shot down would add $662bn dollars in spending.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2025/sep/30/us-government-shutdown-funding-trump-vance-portland-hegseth-latest-updates

>>1443756
Its cope because the continuing resolution keeps Biden level spending, which they've already claimed to be wasteful socialist garbage.
They're just fucked, and hoping the shutdown will distract from the Epstein files being released

>>1443760
careful, the more you bring up the fact he's a pedo, the more unhinged they get

>>1443760
>Its cope because the continuing resolution keeps Biden level spending
It's like literally everything out of your mouth is a lie.
The continuing resolution wasn't continuing Biden's budget, it was continuing the new budget that was voted this year

What the fuck is wrong with you, You think all the Republicans got together for this stop gap thing and they just were like " hey, we're reverting it back to Biden's budget which everyone hates"

>>1443762
yeah, because MAGA are dumb enough to believe it and they hire shills like you to propagate the lies

>>1443763
Nobody believes the retarded shit you are constantly lying about. Literally the only person who believes your bs lies is yourself when you think you're tricking anyone.

>>1443765
>projection: the post

>>1443407
4chan is a simple image-based bulletin board where anyone can post comments and share images. There are boards dedicated to a variety of topics, from Japanese animation and culture to videogames, music, and photography. Users do not need to register an account before participating in the community. Feel free to click on a board below that interests you and jump right in!

>>1443407
Why?

>>1443650

I think it's funny that Trump once said this

"I hear the Democrats are going to be blamed, the Republicans are going to be blamed. I actually think the president would be blamed if there is a shutdown. I think it would be a tremendously negative mark on the President of the United States. He's the one that has to get people together."

>>1443769
Hypocrisy from Trump? Crazy.

>>1443521
Trump himself said the president should take all the blame for a government shutdown

>>1443769
Genuinely when was the last shutdown Trump didn't preside over?

>>1443759
So... Democrats at first cried that the "big beautiful bill" was too expensive, and then the next chance they had, they shut down the government because they couldn't tack on another 3/4 trillion?

Why do we even need to extend/renew COVID spending for healthcare isn't that over?

>>1443788
Big beautiful bill was too expensive with no fucking benefit to most people. Hell, they didn't even want a direct increase in this one; instead just renewing Obamacare tax credits that already existed but needed renewal.

But of course Trump is incapable of negotiation without extortion, so no more gov.

>>1443407
Uh oh Schumer sent a sternly worded letter. These fucking third way Democrat leaders are stuck in the Clinton era and need to fucking wake up before the country goes off a cliff.

>>1443788
Funny how it's always "The Democrats" who are shutting down the government, no matter who is in power. Really makes you think...

>>1443482
schumer's a career long grifter he's promised plenty of shit but never followed through with it. in 2019 he promised to push for cannabis legalization, in 2024 he said oh we couldn't get it done we never bought it to a vote though so vote for us and we'll consider it in the next 4 years.

>>1443782
I believe the last one was during Trump's predecessors term, when Obama was president.
But yeah it seems you're implying that Democrats shut down the government when Trump's in control and yeah it's true, last time it was because he wanted to close the open border and this time it's because they don't want to continue the spending bill they just passed a few months ago

>>1443793
>Hell, they didn't even want a direct increase in this one;
According to the guardian the increase they wanted was $700 billion

>>1443667
did they do it for them though if the answer is yes then your TDS is utterly stupid.

>>1443668
>whataboutism
>buh buh he's a racist
>facism!!!
>ESL!!!
right cause right wingers are the sealions lmao. democrats are incapable of discourse and literally assault and murder people because they have no argument. bunch of pampered nepobabies much.

>>1443798
Literally looking through the Guardian page linked earlier in this thread and that claim is presently nowhere to be found.

It also is very disingenuous considering the main sticking point is wanting to renew tax credits set to expire; it wouldn't be additional spending, just preventing stuff from being cut from the budget.

>>1443793
he got pfizer to commit 70billion in domestic manufacturing and threatened them with tariffs if they refused. He just signed an executive order reducing the cost of american healthcare on tuesday.
He's doing the same with tech and other pharma companies and forcing them to relocate to the US.
I think the bill is stupid and the name is cringe but at least he's making up for it from elsewhere.

>>1443801
esl

>>1443801
10/10 sealioning! Good job, I am actually impressed :)

>>1443803
Yeah much like all of Trump's other "Billions in domestic manufacturing!" deals, I'll believe it when I fucking see it. Remember FoxConn?

Likewise, Trump's "reduced healthcare costs" are also an illusion. His website for it is literally just a middleman website; it doesn't actually sell anything, just redirects to manufacturers like an affiliate link. There's already a company called GoodRx (which Trump is directly parodying via calling his new site "TrumpRx") that does effectively the same thing, yet they're lowkey a scam. Their prices are cheaper than buying the meds uninsured, but you're also better off long-term just getting insurance and buying the meds through that. For comparison: the same meds you'd be getting like 50% off through Trump's service you could get for 100% off through just buying insurance, which leaves what few people it helps as edge cases.

>>1443809
The whole point is to be the middleman and make money off of it though.
Fuck people getting meds, thats not the goal

>>1443803
>Sure, trump university might be expensive, but look at {promise that won't be delivered}, so at least it's making up for it from elsewhere.

>>1443809
>50% off vs 100% off
You're right. However, maga=people who think tariffs are paid for by other countries. They definitely won't understand this, and will line Trump's pockets (>>1443811) like loyal rubes.

>>1443808
You obviously don't even know what 'sealioning' means, clanker

>>1443813
>maga=people who think tariffs are paid for by other countries
No.

We think that tariffs will negative affect how competitive foreign made products are in the domestic market so it will allow either domestically made products to grab a bigger market share or incentivize foreign products to onshore production.

Its about manufacturing. Its only you retards who are obsessed with who pays what.

>>1443831
>we
LOL

>>1443832
Yes.

>>1443833
Claiming that you're American negative affect my opinion of you and your shitty shill points

>>1443835
>no argument
>incomprehensible English

>>1443836
>>incomprehensible English
Its your shill english faggot, do you not even understand your own words?
>>1443831
>We think that tariffs will negative affect

Why did Democrats vote to shutdown the government?
They did the same thing last government shutdown

>>1443847
>Why did Democrats vote to shutdown the government?
Did they? Republicans claimed they could handle the whole thing on their own and didn't need Democrat input, and control all three branches of the government.
They should be able to do it on their own, but if they want Democratic help I've heard they're more than willing to negotiate.

>>1443831
Fair enough, let me correct that:
>maga=people who think tariffs are paid for by other countries, or who think that manufacturing jobs are magically better than service sector work

Both are equally dumb. We're largely a service economy, and are the richest country in the world. Like clockwork, as countries get richer (beyond middle income), they transition to a service-based economy. My service job pays ≈6x the average wage in China. Is China's problem that they don't have enough manufacturing? At the beginning of Donald's term, there were hundreds of thousands of manufacturing jobs that employers couldn't fill.

All that tariffs are going to do is jack up prices. Every CEO knows after Donald's in the grave tariffs are getting rolled back, and they're not going to invest in 10 year building projects for factories that'll get undercut by Chinese prices.

>>1443848
But haven't you heard? Democrats want to use Obamacare subsidies to pay for illegal Palestinian immigrants to get sex changes. How can Our Glorious Sex-Daddy Donald (Hallowed Be His Name) negotiate with them in good faith? They didn't even laugh at his (objectively sophisticated and hilarious) depiction of Jeffries in a sombrero?

>>1443813
better then giving away money on medicaid to people like you who are a liability.
>>1443813
I'm saying it on the basis of the country not the individual who i hope people like you go into poverty homelessness and raped on the street

>>1443853
>It's good giving your money to a fat old dude
>Sexual fantasy about poor people getting raped
Ohh, I get it, it's a findom thing. You're not going to trump university because you expect anything from it: you just get sexually gratified by having an old, rich asshole take control of your finances.

I don't have that kink (I don't have a submissive personality, and am not turned on by old men), but it must be a fun time for you. Every time you go to the grocery store and pay 10% more for eggs or ground beef, you get to indulge your fetish.

>>1443848
>Did they
Yes. Every Republican voted to keep the government open.
Every democrat except 4 voted to shut down the government

>>1443859
Why would dems agree to a republican budget that actively harms their constituents? why would republicans refuse to compromise even when doing so is the only way the government stays open?

>>1443848
Sadly, there are not 60 Republican senators therefore the Democrats were still able to hijack the voting and force the government to shut down

>>1443856
I'll cum to you suffering, no one cares about costs as long as they're safe and the evil people like you aren't out there violating the kids
>>1443862
nice excuses, terrorists like you shut the government down and are now playing the victim its a fact

>>1443859
Agreed. Trump made every good faith effort he could to reach across the aisle and make Democrats see sense. You can tell this by the way Democrats are trying to deflect. Take this quote from Chuck Schumer for example:
"When they talk about the government shutdown, they’re going to be talking about the president of the United States, who the president was at that time. They’re not going to be talking about who was the head of the House, the head the Senate, who’s running things in Washington. So I really think the pressure is on the president."

They're openly trying to trick people into thinking it's Trump's fault. Good thing the American people are too smart to fall for it.

>>1443864
>nice excuses, terrorists like you shut the government down and are now playing the victim its a fact
Literally all Republicans had to do was not cut the tax credits for Obamacare. They have every other card, but instead refused to even talk to dems.

>>1443862
>Why would dems agree to a republican budget that actively harms their constituents
It literally did not change anything in the budget. The issue with hc credits isn't even due until end of the year. There was plenty of time for them to work out an agreement everyone could agree with rather than shutting down the government like petulant children

>>1443866
>Literally all Republicans had to do was not cut the tax credits for Obamacare.
Nobody cut any credits you retard, educate yourself.
The credits are set to expire at the end of the year. The continuing spending literally changed nothing and just extended the funding as is for a couple months

I hate you faggots that have no idea what you're talking about and just parrot left wing think tank talking points

>>1443863
So Republicunts do need Democrats help?
Amazing, sounds like they deserve a place at the table.
Why are Republicunts so insistent on slave and slavelike labor?

>>1443866
Those credits were put in place in 2021 as a covid emergency measure, And in 2023 they were extended until January 1st 2026.

Nobody has touched those credits since then, what you're arguing is "why didn't the Republicans want to vote to change the current budget and rextend emergency COVID credits which were already set to expire on Jan 1"

>>1443864
>I'll cum to you suffering
I'm not here to kink-shame, indulging your fetishes in a consensual environment can be healthy. However, it is deeply concerning to me that you're bringing child abuse into your fantasies. I understand your fetish is having Donald do things to you without your consent, but you can't extend that forwards.

Why not? Take Donald for example. He's non-consensually putting Americans through financial hardship because it inflates his ego. 65% of Americans now say they're financially squeezed compared with 58% last July (https://www.axios.com/2025/10/01/stock-market-gdp-inflation). That's a lot of suffering to indulge the whims of one man: don't hurt others for your own kink.

>>1443870
Because they want to rule, not govern, and haven't broken our existing government enough to do so yet.

>>1443870
>So Republicunts do need Democrats help
Preferably no, as we've seen lately when Democrats offer their help. What they're really trying to do is just shut down the government

>>1443877
>Preferably no
So don't shut down the government then, faggot
Pick a lane

>>1443878
>So don't shut down the government then
Please write that to your local Democratic senator.

All they had to do was vote to continue funding the government as is for 3 months as was proposed, And the issue of renewing the expiring covid relief health credits could have been debated during that time

>>1443869
>Renewing the 2017 tax cuts doesn't count as adding to the deficit, but letting Obamacare credits expire doesn't count as cutting them

>>1443880
Ikr? Thune, Johnson, and trump all promised to negotiate on Obamacare subsidies as soon as Democrats acquiesced to Republican demands. If we've learned anything over the past decade of politics, it's that Republican leadership can be trusted to keep their word.

>>1443881
>Renewing the 2017 tax cuts doesn't count as adding to the deficit, but letting Obamacare credits expire doesn't count as cutting them
But it is widely reported that the expiring Obamacare credits would have cut the budget.
In fact, every news publication is reporting the Democrat attempt to renew the credits is a budgetary cost of nearly $700 billion

Please educate yourself anon

>>1443884
Oh right, I forgot we already spent that money slashing taxes for the rich. Obviously that's much more important than healthcare.

Wait... wasn't I also told that slashing taxes for the rich would reduce the deficit? You keep telling me to educate myself, but listening to what Donald says just makes me more confused.

>>1443880
Why are you still blaming Democrats?
They don't have any input and Republicunts control the whole government
Are you admitting that Republicunts can't run the government?

>>1443885
Wait are you implying that altering the budget by adding in a $700 billion cost to the budget is "keeping the budget the same" because this $700bn expense was going to expire in 3 months and become a $0 expense?
Lmao
Stupid pedantic fucking leftist

>>1443888
>They don't have any input and Republicunts control the whole government
Weird, 60 votes were needed to defeat Democrats fillabustering and successfully keep the government open
every Republican voted to keep the government open so did 4 Democrats. The government was shut down because 45 Democrats voted against keeping it open,

>>1443890
>Weird, 60 votes were needed to defeat Democrats fillabustering and successfully keep the government open
Weird weird weird, they didn't need it to pass the budget in the first place.
So why would they need it to continue? If they knew they needed Dems, why freeze them out of negotiations?
I know you're being deliberately retarded, but its clear this is a Republicunt caused problem.

>>1443889
Wait are you implying that altering the budget by adding in a $4.5 trillion cost to the budget (Donald's billionaire tax cut) is "keeping the budget the same" because this $4.5 trillion expense was going to expire in a few months and become a $0 expense?
Lmao
Stupid pedantic fucking maga

>>1443892
It's simple
>Claim government doesn't work
>Purposefully break government by firing everyone
>Use shutdown as pretence to fire more people
>Government breaks
>Use that as proof you were always right about the government not working
Ta-da, welcome to America 2.0, where plutocrats have all the power and paying 2x as much for coffee is just proof freedom isn't free.

>>1443892
democrats supporting terrorism andshutting down the government wow who'd of guessed

>>1443893
>tax cut
>cost
Wot?

>>1443898
>Attack opponent with strawman
>Do what you accuse your opponent of doing
>"We had to do it because they did it first!"

>>1443892
Budget reconciliations pass on a flat vote. A continuing resolution needs 60 votes.

30 seconds on Google.

>>1443899
>It increased the deficit by 4.5 trillion but tee-hee I'm going to dance around whether this is a cost or opportunity cost
I guess it beats the alternative: arguing why billionaires deserve a tax cut while the rest of us are getting gouged with taxes at the grocery store.

>>1443903
so you really are dumb and presumed democrats would suddenly vote for something they voted against

>>1443905
If dems want to shut down the government over this, then that's on them.

>>1443902
democrats objectively are the ones to blame because they voted to shut down government.
>buh buh republicans didn't negotiate to give money to terrorists
>insert whack job gaslighting

>>1443906
>>1443907
Its nice that shills can have opinions, even if they're laughably wrong

>>1443908
Okay. Best of luck with the shutdown.

>>1443909
>Republican caused shutdown
Fixed that for you

>>1443893
>Wait are you implying that altering the budget by adding in a $4.5 trillion cost to the budget (Donald's billionaire tax cut) is "keeping the budget the same" because this $4.5 trillion expense was going to expire in a few months and become a $0 expense
Congress and Senate voted to pass that though.
This government shutdown was caused by Democrats refusing to continue everything exactly as is for 3 more months. They wanted to add in 700bn in spending, and if they didn't get it, they wanted to shut down the government
Do try to keep up

>>1443892
>Weird weird weird, they didn't need it to pass the budget in the first place
Try reading a book, retard
This information is readily available

>>1443911
>They wanted to add in 700bn in spending
Alright, I'll play. Through what? What was their exact bill or addendum to the budget? If this was on the floor it should be on record, so go on. Post it.

>>1443911
Exactly. If the Republican congress decided to increase the deficit by 4.5 trillion, then it's justified. It's not actually increasing the deficit though, because billionaires work thousands of times harder than the rest of us, and deserve low tax rates (the deficit is only increased by spending on social services like Medicaid). Congress and Senate (which together make up the House of Representatives) this time though are being held hostage by Democrats, and any attempts to reach across the aisle would be in vain.

Libtards will never understand trickle down economics.

Republicans want to cut benefits for the poor to give benefits to the rich.
Democrats don't.
That's kind of all there is to it. I don't know what else there is to say.

>>1443912
>This information is readily available
Like how Republicunts knew the continuing resolution needed 60 votes, so they knew this would happen when they only needed 50 to pass the original budget
Like they knew shills like you would be too dumb to understand and blame Libs for their own problems

>>1443914
Mr sealion wants the original legislative text? Have fun with 70 pages of it: https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/fy26_democratic_continuing_resolution_text.pdf

But hey, I was (kinda) wrong, I thought they were merely wanting to temporarily renew or extend the temporary emergency medical relief passed to help people with COVID. Apparently they were trying to make the temporary emergency COVID funding permanent, which is even weirder.


According to CBS: The Senate has begun voting on a counterproposal from Democrats to keep the government open through October — several weeks shorter than the House-passed Republican measure.

It also would make permanent the enhanced tax credits for people who buy health insurance through the Affordable Care Act marketplaces. It's a nonstarter for most Republicans.

The vote is expected to fall short of the 60-vote threshold, as it did on Sept. 19.

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/government-shutdown-latest-trump-congress-senate-vote/

>>1443918
>Like how Republicunts knew the continuing resolution needed 60 votes, so they knew this would happen when they only needed 50 to pass the original budget
Democrats fillabustering to block government funding is a bitch

It would have only been 50 votes this time as well if Democrats weren't blocking the vote

>>1443920
Yeah, shame Republicunts decided to freeze out Democrats.
They're willing to negotiate and provide their votes whenever Republicunts decide to admit they can't do anything on their own

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/federal-government-shutdown-looms-thousands-of-workers-set-to-be-furloughed-or-laid-off
>The 55-45 vote on the bill to extend federal funding for seven weeks fell short of the 60 needed to end a filibuster and pass the legislation.

Why did Democrats literally shut down the government with their fillabustering? The resolution had enough votes to pass (unlike the Democrat one) but it didn't have enough votes to make the Democrat children shut the hell up and allow the government to be funded

So, keep that in mind.
The spending bill had enough votes to legally pass
It did not have enough votes to override Democrats desire to grandstand and shutdown the government by blocking cloture.

>>1443923
>The spending bill had enough votes to legally pass
So why did Republicunts shut down the government if they had enough votes to pass the bill?
It sounds like they actually didn't, or they shut down the government and are lying about dems causing it

>>1443922
>Sigh, le evil democrats won't let Republicans take away healthcare funding, and Republicans are simply too retarded to actually negotiate with the other side of the isle
>Alas, it is all the dems fault we are unable to compromise or negotiate in any way that isn't extortion

Why is the AMERICAN senate observing a JEWISH holiday? They don't even care about hiding it anymore!

>w-well if democrats had just voted for this bill then-
Then they wouldn't be doing their job. Senators are there to represent and fight for their constituents.
What are you even saying here? The dems should have just agreed to everything the repubs were doing and got nothing for it? Why would they do that? Why would anyone expect them to do that? That's not how congress works.
Meanwhile, Trump has told his party, and it is his party, to just not negotiate with the democrats. Which is insane, because negotiating on bills IS how congress works. One side wants this, the other wants that, you go back and forth until you reach a compromise. Trump just tells congress to become non-functional, yet it's the democrat's fault because they won't agree with him? Seriously, what is the logic here?

>>1443927
Fucking this. Republicans have gone all in on the "Tyranny of the majority" shit they've been rallying AGAINST for years the second they got all three branches. They're so radicalized they literally cannot even comprehend compromise or negotiation with the other party now, so the government ceases to function as was designed. In other countries this kind of failure would result in new elections or resignations. Here, we just have to deal with it until either the dems fuck their voters over, or Republicans finally see sense and realize they do in-fact have to make agreements with the other side of the country.

>>1443927
the logic is that america has been hijacked by billionaires and this avenue probably begins the privatization of the entire government

>>1443924
>So why did Republicunts shut down the government if they had enough votes to pass the bill
They had enough votes to pass the bill, it got 55 of the 69 required votes to pass.
What they did not have is the required 60 votes to override Democrats fillabustering and force cloture.

Democrats literally fillabustered the country into a shutdown, because they wanted expiring emergency COVID aid voted for in 2021 to become permanent

>>1443936
god you're esl

>>1443937
Shut up retard

>>1443938
Fillibustered.
You have to get 60 anons to reply to your message to tell the other anon to shut up.

>>1443939
i doubt 100 people post here, the 60% requirement is probably more like 7 or 8 posters maximum

>>1443940
Thats some solid logic, but we're not working with logical people here.
Look at this retard, >>1443936, they're still pretending Dems own the shutdown, as if they're entitled to Democratic support on things.

>>1443910
>republicans caused the shut down that was voted for by democrats
huh democrats really are subhuman and anti intellectuals

>>1443942
Nah, you got it wrong
>>1443936
>They had enough votes to pass the bill, it got 55 of the 69 required votes to pass.
They were down 14 votes according to this waterhead

>>1443942
and you're really not white or american, but that goes without saying

>>1443942
>republicans caused the shut down that was voted for by democrats
This is literally what they are trying to argue lmao

esl shill is literally talking to himself

>>1443941
>they're still pretending Dems own the shutdown, as if they're entitled to Democratic support on things.
Nobody is entitled to support anything, but only one party blocked cloture on a bill which made zero changes to existing budget and already had enough votes to pass. They used the small edge they have to block cloture meaning that while the bill had enough votes to pass, it did not have enough votes to override their attempts to block it from being voted in

The party that did this was the Democrats

>>1443948
>democrats used a tactic that has been abused by republicans over and over :'(

>>1443948
>had enough votes to pass.
Democrats didn't shut down the government, Republicans had enough votes to keep it open.
If its closed, then I guess its Republicans fault, since they had everything they need and didn't want any input from Democrats.
Hope this helps, I know US politics is confusing to foreigners

>>1443949
When is the last time Republicans used this tactic to shut down the government? Hasn't it literally always been Democrats?

>>1443949
>>1443950
Have fun with the shutdown.

>>1443950
>Democrats didn't shut down the government, Republicans had enough votes to keep it open.
Apparently not because it required 60 votes to override the Democratic filibuster.
The funding measure itself only required a simple majority to pass, what was being blocked by Democrats was everybody's ability to actually vote on it.

>>1443958
So you're saying republicunts didn't have enough votes, and they're blaming Democrats after freezing them out of the process and not giving them any input on the legislation.

I'm sorry Republicunts can't do anything without Democrats helping them, but you wanted them to do it on their own.

I'm sure they're trying.

Eventually Dems will help them, when they finish whining and being failures

>>1443959
>So you're saying republicunts didn't have enough votes
Correct, they had enough votes to pass The Republican spending bill, Democrats did not have enough votes to pass the Democrat spending bill, but nobody had enough votes to shut down Democrats filibustering of the Senate

>>1443960
>Correct, they had enough votes to pass The Republican spending bill,
So the government isn't shut down?

>>1443960
Have you considered perhaps trying to compromise with the other half of the fucking country instead of trying to get everything you want? And I don't wanna hear "but we did!" when Trump literally told Dems to go fuck themselves and didn't meet with them at all.

>>1443961
No, I see where you're confused.
Republicans had enough votes to pass their spending bill, but the government shut down anyway, because Republicans decided to shut it down unilaterally.
They have enough votes to pass the bills without any Democrat support, so only they can be blamed for not passing the continuing resolution.

>>1443959
This is unfortunately true and it's an interesting callout..
Democrats have so little power right now about the only thing they can do is prevent senators from voting on things that would keep the government open
>>1443964
Shut up retard

>>1443965
I know the Republican caused shutdown is hard, especially after all the right wing murderers in the news, but its not a team game.

>>1443407
How about reigning in on the Rightwing fascists (MAGA) that are contemptuous of members of the Republican Party that are willing to compromise with the Democrats?

>>1443965
Fuck off cultist

>>1443966
>I know the Republican caused shutdown is hard
Weird how a budget with the majority of votes in the Senate couldn't be passed because of Democrats filibustering it. Those damn Republicans

>>1443966
>I know the Republican caused shutdown is hard
You're not convincing anyone.

>>1443989
>Weird how a budget with the majority of votes in the Senate couldn't be passed
yeah, its weird republicans said they didn't need anything from democrats regarding the bill but shut down the government anyway.
were they lying?

>>1443991
FYI 4 Dems voted with Republicans to keep the government funded.

>>1443995
>>1443991
It's a shame Democrats chose to filibuster the only bill in the Senate that had majority of senators supporting it, and did so to the point that they shut down the government

>>1444014
>Why would they actually represent their voters by opposing the bill being passed
>Why can't they just do whatever Trump says like we do?

>>1444016
These very people already agreed on this exact same budget and passed it just a few months ago.
They did the same thing back when Trump was trying to reduce illegal immigration.
It's just a circus act for people like you

>>1444018
>These very people already agreed on this exact same budget and passed it just a few months ago
You got a source for that lie that isn't drug induced?

>>1444024
No.