>>1446205
>Day 9 of making a thread every day
But this is your second. You've been mindfucked and it's kinda funny.

I thought shutting down the government was the point of DOGE?

>>1446207
Hopefully it stays this way forever and ever

>>1446207
No, the point of DOGE was for Elon and Peter Thiel to gain unsupervised access to sensitive government data on American citizens and use that to implement the next phase of the surveillance state in order to make themselves trillionaires
The point of the shutdown is to provide a smokescreen for Republicans to continue to block the release of the Epstein files and give the Trump administration an excuse not to publish September's abysmal jobs and inflation numbers

>>1446227
Why?

>>1446205
no guaranteed backpay? i'm out bitches. lets see if the maga goons have been practicing on microsoft flight traffic control simulator

>>1446246
MAGA drives everywhere, numbnuts.

Reminder that this all because the Democrats want gay basket weaving in Haiti and free healthcare for illegals immigrants. Do not allow them to lie about it

>>1446312
No it’s not, stop lying.

>>1446312
We know. This time, just like the last time, democrats want to shut down the government then spin it as le ebil publicans being bad.
It's shocking anyone is still fooled by this. Even the media forgot it's marching orders at the start of these renewed Democrat shenanigans and reported the it was a Democrat owned shut down.
And I thought it was about better HIV for fags and easier access to children for troons.

>>1446315
>Republicans run House
>Republicans run Senate
>Republicans run White House
>"How can Democrats do this to us?"

>>1446341
52 isn't 60 dickface.
As in you'd need 8 Democrats or supposed independents to vote for the budget along with 100% of Republicans. So, there's the answer to your fake and notably gay greentext bullshit.

>>1446343
it's almost like people don't like what you're doing

>>1446343
Imagine having every possible card and failing to come up with any kind of deal. This is like a billionaire failing to reach a business deal with a homeless man.

>>1446205
>"If there is a shutdown I think it would be a tremendously negative mark on the president of the United States. He's the one who has to get people together."

>- Donald J. Trump

Daily reminder that Trump thinks government shutdowns are the president's fault.

>>1446344
After careful consideration and much study, I've come to terms with the fact that Democrats aren't actually people. I'm pretty sure they're demons, which, as an Atheist, is weird to say.

>>1446349
>"Hey guys, people I disagree with aren't human so, that means we can kill as many of them as we want right?"
I'll never understand why conservatives say shit like this then get so angry when they get called Nazis.

>>1446349
you don't even study english, esl shill. please stop lying and change your ways

>>1446351
I'll never be a socialist, demon.

>>1446358
You think things like universal healthcare and welfare are socialism. That's why no one takes you seriously.

>>1446411
>You think things like universal healthcare and welfare are socialism.
Yes, those are both aspects of socialism.

>>1446343
Cuck harder for Trump esl prison pocket

>>1446411
Yes, Nazi had universal healthcare. And in communist Russia, they had welfare too, they called it the gulag

>>1446414
>Guys these systems that have been screwing you over for years are the best
>You wouldn't want the alternative would you? That's socialism! Aren't you so happy with the healthcare industry that drains you dry for a broken ankle? Or the state that leaves you to either collect dust on the street or actively shoves you into a prison for having the audacity to have no money?

>>1446429
>>Guys these systems that have been screwing you over for years are the best
These systems arent screwing me over.
>healthcare industry that drains you dry for a broken ankle?
I have insurance.
>Or the state that leaves you to either collect dust on the street or actively shoves you into a prison for having the audacity to have no money?
Good. Public spaces are supposed to be enjoyed by everyone not just addicts and vagrants.

>>1446430
Yeah shockingly the anti-empathy platform isn't exactly doing well lately. Turns out screwing everyone over does a good job at making them realize the system is fucked. Guess we can thank Trump in that regard.

>>1446432
>screwing people over
No, its you screwing yourself over. Work harder, make better decisions, this country is awesome.

>>1446437
>Work harder so we can rip the rug out from under you by killing your industry overnight
The republican platform everyone; when their policies screw you over and leave you homeless, it's actually your fault.

>>1446425
Germany still has universal healthcare but isn't socialist.

>>1446441
>when their policies screw you over and leave you homeless
I dont see how expecting you to not be a fucking bum is a problem.

>>1446443
Germany is defined in its constitution as a "social state"
>Die Bundesrepublik Deutschland ist ein demokratischer und sozialer Bundesstaat.
>The Federal Republic of Germany is a democratic and social federal state

>>1446444
Good luck explaining that to all the people Trump put on the streets.

>>1446343
They actually don't
Republicans could use the nuclear option and pass the budget with a simple majority
They've used it multiple times in the last few weeks to confirm Trump appointees
Meanwhile, they're refusing to negotiate in good faith with Democrats and simply demanding they vote in favor of the bill as it exists, making progress in getting to 60 votes impossible as of now
So on one hand, Republicans literally have the power to end the shutdown right now but won't, and on the other they're not budging in negotiations with Democrats and so of course no closer to 60 votes
Republicans own this shutdown

>>1446453
How is the party who is explicitly voting not to fund the government not responsible for the shutdown?

>>1446454
I feel like if you actually read the post you're responding to, you'll see the argument laid out pretty clearly

>>1446455
So, even though Democrats have repeatedly voted not to fund the government, they are not responsible for the government not being funded?

>>1446456
As I said in the post you originally responded to, Republicans have the power to bypass the Democrats and end the shutdown immediately. A power that they have used multiple times in the last few weeks.
But they are refusing to use it to end the shutdown and are refusing to budge in negotiations.
They are more interested in forcing unnecessary Democrat capitulation than reopening the government, which again they can do right this second.
That puts the blame on them.

>>1446457
And there it is
>They are more interested in forcing unnecessary Democrat capitulation
You know its going to happen. You can feel it coming. We're going to break you, and we're having so much fun doing it.

>>1446458
>We're
Whomst?

>>1446459
The entire GOP. From voters to the very top.

>>1446458
>We
You're a powerless cog on a dead board, being toyed with by the same forces I am.

>>1446443
Germany has universal healthcare. Do you know much about it?
No? I imagined not.
Germany has Universal healthcare because it's illegal not to pay a healthcare premium.
You could face fines or imprisonment for not having it.
Socialism at it's best.
And the scheme is insolvent because like most western nations, it's become an insufferable shithole most people can't even imagine brining a fucking human life into to be used and abused for the sake of neo liberal capital.

>>1446453
>Republicans could use the nuclear option and pass the budget with a simple majority
From my understand that would set the precedent that a simple majority would be required in the future to pass a budget thus altering the rules under the new precedent.
It doesn't sound like it's worth it if I understand the rules of the nuclear option correctly.

>>1446463
>It doesn't sound like it's worth it if I understand the rules of the nuclear option correctly.
100% correct. GOP has bitter experience from their own shutdowns. They know the Dems will fold eventually so no point in doing anything about it. Just wait it out.

>>1446463
Indeed that's correct. Democrats using the nuclear option to reduce the voting threshold for nominations leading to McConnel using the precedent to reduce the threshold to nominate supreme court justices to a simple majority.

>>1446463
If they don't want to use the nuclear option to end the shutdown that's their choice.
If they also don't want to negotiate that's also their choice.
But the consequence of those choices is more people are going to see them effectively blocking both avenues to ending the shutdown and blame them for the shutdown as a result.

>>1446469
Why would people blame them for a shutdown when its the Democrats who are literally voting to shutdown the government?

>>1446469
Why? It's Democrats ensuring the government is shut down. I don't follow your illogic.

>>1446469
I think Democrats could find better ways to do things, like not being insufferable pieces of shit that people really don't want to vote because they're absolutely incompetent and terrible thus establishing a majority, or even allowing the government to open and being classy and negotiating later on.

>>1446470
>>1446471
I've already answered this question three times in this thread in the last half hour and rather than acknowledge my answer, refute it, and continue the conversation you're just asking the same exact question again.
I don't feel like arguing with bots tonight.

>>1446475
You're going to get asked the same question until you put on your big boy pants and own the shutdown.

>>1446475
I mean you keep saying it's the Republicans fault because they aren't just giving up.
Which is really quite shocking and unprecedented given they've classically been useless and spineless.
Perhaps it time for Democrats to be the bigger person and just give in for the sake of the country.

>>1446480
you keep being a faggot with an objectively wrong opinion

>>1446480
Learn how to compromise