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https://www.cnbc.com/2025/10/16/tariff-costs-to-companies-this-year-to-hit-1point2-trillion-with-consumers-taking-most-of-the-hit-sp-says.html

President Donald Trump’s tariffs will cost global businesses upward of $1.2 trillion in 2025, with most of the cost being passed onto consumers, according to a new analysis from S&P Global.

In a white paper released Thursday, the firm said its estimate of additional expenses for companies is probably conservative. The price tag comes from information provided by some 15,000 sell-side analysts across 9,000 companies who contribute to S&P and its proprietary research indexes.

“The sources of this trillion-dollar squeeze are broad. Tariffs and trade barriers act as taxes on supply chains and divert cash to governments; logistics delays and freight costs compound the effect,” author Daniel Sandberg said in the report. “Collectively, these forces represent a systemic transfer of wealth from corporate profits to workers, suppliers, governments, and infrastructure investors.”

Trump in April slapped 10% tariffs on all goods entering the U.S. and listed individual “reciprocal” tariffs for dozens of other countries. Since then, the White House has entered a series of negotiations and agreements while also adding duties on a variety of individual items such as kitchen cabinets, autos and timber.
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While administration officials have insisted that exporters will be forced to bear the greater share of the levies, the S&P analysis suggests that is only partly true.

In fact, the firm says that just one-third will be borne by companies, with the rest falling on the shoulders of consumers, under conservative estimates. The figures incorporated a $907 billion hit to covered companies with the remainder to uncovered firms as well as private equity and venture capital.

“With real output declining, consumers are paying more for less, suggesting that this two-thirds share represents a lower bound on their true burden,” said Sandberg, who wrote the report along with Drew Bowers, a senior quantitative analyst at S&P Global.
Political and policy stakes

The size of the tariff hit and the burden of the costs are critical both for the White House looking to sell the duties as essential to restoring a fair trade balance, and to policymakers at the Federal Reserve looking to calibrate the proper balance for monetary policy.

“The President and Administration’s position has always been clear: while Americans may face a transition period from tariffs upending a broken status quo that has put America Last, the cost of tariffs will ultimately be borne by foreign exporters,” White House spokesman Kush Desai said in a statement.
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“Companies are already shifting and diversifying their supply chains in response to tariffs, including by onshoring production to the United States,” he added.

Fed officials have been inclined to look through the duties as a one-time hit to prices and not a source of underlying inflationary pressures. The S&P researchers found similar sentiment among analysts.

The consensus looks for a 64 basis point contraction in profit margins this year, fading to 28 basis points for 2026 and then 8 to 10 basis points in 2027-28. A basis point equals 0.01%.

“In effect, 2025 locked in the hit; 2026 and 2027 will test whether the market’s optimism about re-equilibration is warranted,” the authors wrote. “For now, consensus envisions a world where margins eventually recover to pre-tariff trajectories. Whether that faith proves justified will depend on how firms adapt through technology, cost discipline and reshaped global value chains that have defined this cycle.”

The impact also likely will depend on how Trump’s tariff strategy evolves. The White House currently is back in heightened tensions with China over a rare earth dispute and Trump’s intentions to retaliate.

The S&P paper found that Trump’s removal in May of the “de minimis” exception for goods under $800 was “the real inflection point” for how hard tariffs would bite. The exception had allowed low-priced goods to sail under previous tariff barriers, but “had become politically untenable.”

“When the exemption closed, the shock rippled through shipping data, earnings reports, and executive commentary,” Sandberg said.

“In the optimistic scenario that this turbulence is temporary, the Trump administration’s tariff agenda and the resulting supply chain realignments are viewed as transitory frictions, not permanent structural taxes on profitability,” he added.
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Of course. Did you see prices go down when the taxes were lowered? No. The prices stayed the same, the tax lowered but the item price increased. Trickle down economics never works when you got companies damning up the flow. You can't jail a corporation but you can shoot a ceo in the face. Enjoy your slow Dupont death America, you deserve it.
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>>1449200
food CPI US rose 3.2% in 2024-2025 august
food CPI US rose 2.5% in 2023-2024
barely any difference, alot of grocery stores are eating the cost and praying trump lifts or lessens them for regular groceries. I wanna see where this supposed cost being passed onto consumers is from, if its luxury or imported goods then those fatass cats can go get fucked.
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>>1449208
>food CPI
shill sure knows how to lie with statistics
Its a useless measurement when it balances out things like the US unable to sell any of its crops overseas so those products tank, and meat and other products skyrocket
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>>1449210
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm
the cost of energy is actually down anon
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.t07.htm
US food CPI is up 3.3% in 2025 12months trailing
vs 2.9% in 2024
so its just a marginal increase
you're an anti-intellectual huh makes sense for someone with TDS and terroristic tendencies
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>>1449214
Says the sadistic yesman...
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>>1449208
>>1449214
Oh good a damage control shill has been dispatched to the thread.
Meanwhile
>“With real output declining, consumers are paying more for less, suggesting that this two-thirds share represents a lower bound on their true burden,” said Sandberg, who wrote the report along with Drew Bowers, a senior quantitative analyst at S&P Global.
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>>1449222
which isn't reflected in the actual CPI data, there's some outliers like coffee and electricity that stand out, but like I said if its luxury goods you can go fuck yourself.
are you incapable of looking up CPI data yourself i literally linked it to you.
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>>1449229
>some outliers
There are hundreds of outliers.
>you can go fuck yourself
The story is about Trump fucking all of us with his arbitrary tariffs.
>muh CPI data
http://www.anbound.com/Section/ArticleView_34942_1.htm
>Why the U.S. CPI Does Not Show the Full Effects of Trump's Tariffs
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>>1449229
>shill sure knows how to lie with statistics
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>>1449200
Imagine being a Trumptard.

So stupid you'd scream 'no new taxes!' in favor of the guy who exclusively taxes you *more*.
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>>1449235
It isn't a tax when Trump does it.
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>>1449200
>>1449235
>>1449231
>NOOOOOO don't tax the heckin corporations!
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>>1449241
That is literally going to be the Trumptard cope, ver batim.
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>>1449243
You're not taxing corporations. They maintain the same profit while everyone has to pay more. You're taxing everyone in the US.
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>>1449231
I have the whole list you dipshit most of it has barely changed and some categories are outright improved
did you read your own article
>attribute the delayed impact of tariff policies on prices to several key factors
aka the tariff rises in prices haven't even taken fucking place yet according to YOUR article, if it did take place it would be reflected in the CPI
so congratz you fucking uneducated dipshit
>>1449232
tds anti-intellectual doesn't know how to read statistics shocking
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>>1449231
>The imported goods affected by the tariff war are primarily non-essential items like electronics and clothing. These products have a relatively low weight in the CPI basket.
oh wow who'd of guessed the uneducated TDS is literally linking an article that contradicts his own narrative and is too fucking stupid to read past the title.


>In the U.S., service-based consumption, such as healthcare, education, dining, and entertainment, accounts for more than 60% of total consumer spending.

yes trump is tariffing US services amirite
just fucking kill yourself
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>>1449245
>not taxing corporations
we literally are. Leftists are just falling for the trickle down economics scam of "But if we stop taxing corporations then those savings will trickle down to us!"
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>>1449231
>In theory, tariff policies should push up the prices of imported goods. However, data from May 2025 shows that the prices of many import-dependent durable goods and apparel actually fell rather than rose. Durable goods declined by 0.2%, and apparel fell by 0.1%. This outcome runs counter to expectations that tariffs would raise prices, suggesting that the trade war's actual impact may have fallen short of market expectations.

self-goaling again why thank you for linking an article that literally regugitates what I already know and for showing how fucking stupid you are.
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>>1449248
>leftist
>trickle down
Trickle Down economics is still in play, retard.

Trumptards are taxing corporations less,
And Trumptards are taxing individual incomes more via tariffs.

...but you knew that, didn't you, bot?
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>>1449249
NTA; data from now disproves that because prices only briefly dipped before spiking.
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>>1449251
if they spiked it would've been reflected in the CPI it didn't, also the thing most people don't realize is that the tariffs don't actually affect most Canadian or Mexican imports because of the CUSMA trade agreement. the steel/aluminum is affected but the vast majority of goods are bypassing the tariffs or have yet to see a significant increase.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dWUUavyfJh4
here's a liberal shill video on it

also you do realize if prices did "spike" we'd see that reflected in the inflation. US 2023-2024 had an average inflation rate of 2.9, US 12 months trailing ending in august 2025 was 2.9. so there hasn't been any significant inflation spikes yet. its basically unaffected so far
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>>1449252
>https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/oct/16/inflation-economic-pessimism-poll
Funny how "no inflation" yet we have tons of people reporting massive price increases. Maybe, just maybe, whoever is reporting the inflation rate is full of shit?
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>>1449254
>anecdotal evidence is superior to actual statistics
>the statistics are wrong, the hearsay is definitely right because its aligned with my TDS agenda.
wow who'd of guessed a TDS moron is an anti-intellectual
Maybe you should go find the ceos of these stores and beat them up then for inflating prices
funny how you're anti statistics now but you're completely fine with blue cities reclassifying crimes into misdemeanors and pretending crime is at an all time low.
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>>1449257
When "Actual statistics" say no prices are going up, but actually going to the fucking grocery store shows everything is more expensive, maybe the "actual statistics" aren't fucking correct.
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>>1449259
>no prices are going up
what a fucking stupid moron you are, it doesn't say that it says its largely the same some categories like coffee is higher but overall its largely the same as last year with about a 0.2% increase
but what do i expect from a fucking moron
hyperboles of course
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>>1449257
>>1449247
What does The Daily Show have to do with it?
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>>1449261
Yeah I'm not the one claiming "Inflation is basically non-existent" when every grocery bill is up by around $80.
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>>1449265
>"Inflation is basically non-existent"
said no one with a brain,
the tariff "spike" is nonexistant and that's provable.
congratz you're a fatass pig that uses alot of electricity and coffee.
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>>1449222
>Consumers are paying more for less
Have you considered getting on the train of deporting all the browns and other thirdies? We can't have a functioning economy without a functioning nation, and it starts with pruning all the hostile invaders that came here to extract wealth from us.
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>>1449269
>that's provable.
so prove it, shill
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>>1449271
I recommend stripping citizenship from sanctuary cities and just designating them labor camps. build a nice big wall around them.
>>1449272
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/cpi.nr0.htm
I already did that's what inflation rate and CPI LITERALLY tracks.
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>>1449273
>The all items index rose 2.9 percent for the 12 months ending August, after rising 2.7 percent over the 12 months
ending July. The all items less food and energy index rose 3.1 percent over the last 12 months. The energy index
increased 0.2 percent for the 12 months ending August. The food index increased 3.2 percent over the last year.
l m a o
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>>1449273
So you have no proof, and you're proud that you're too stupid to find proof
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>>1449279
>The food index increased 3.2 percent over the last year.LMAO
and it rose 2.9% the year before over 12months that so a 0.3% increase from 2024-2025 vs 2023-2024
where's the insane tariff spike retardnon?
>>1449281
>illiterate can't read a data chart when its linked to them
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>>1449250
This thread is about leftists complaining because Trump is taxing corporations too much
>taxing individual incomes via tariffs
that's not how tariffs work. I have paid $0 in tariffs. It is possible that corporations are off-setting a portion of their increased tariffs by passing a portion of the costs on to consumers (which is the case with any corporate tax of course) but the corporations are still the ones directly paying the tariffs. And unlike normal corporate taxes, this also creates an incentive for corporations to keep more jobs in the US.
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>>1449296
>I have paid $0 in tariffs.
NTA but you're a fucking retard
https://www.investopedia.com/trump-wants-retailers-to-eat-cost-of-tariffs-do-they-have-the-appetite-11740879
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>>1449297
he's right though, you aren't paying for tariffs directly and so far the majority of tariffs are forced on retailers.
>>1449250
>Trumptards are taxing individual incomes more via tariffs.
asinine retardation statement, they need to make people do an IQ test before being able to vote.
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>>1449296
>I don't pay costs passed on to me
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>>1449300
nta but if you look at the CPI, most groceries aren't affected but muh tariff spikes, and gas is actually down. but keep being an ignorant retard
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>>1449303
>CP
why are republicunts so obsessed with fucking kids?
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>>1449303
Inflation is a lagging indicator that doesn't appear on the CPI for sometimes years afterward
https://www.federalreserve.gov/econres/notes/feds-notes/detecting-tariff-effects-on-consumer-prices-in-real-time-20250509.html
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>>1449297
sounds like you're the fucking retard who didn't even read your source and has no idea how tariffs work. Corporations are paying the tariffs. They then pass some of that cost onto consumers (as they do with any corporate tax) but corporations are the ones directly paying it.
This is how literally all corporate taxes work so if you're against this it means you oppose corporate taxes because of trickle down economics. The only difference is that tariffs create an incentive for corporations to invest in America.
>>1449300
>indirectly paying a portion of the increased taxes is the same as directly paying 100% of the increased taxes
no also see the rest of my comment. I'm sorry that leftists are all corporate bootlickers who believe that corporations and billionaires shouldn't have to pay taxes, but thankfully Trump disagrees with you.
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>>1449307
So you're dumbass response to
>Trumptards are taxing individual incomes more via tariffs
is ultimately
>people are paying more taxes, but you should be happy its not the full increase
I'll accept your concession, don't bother flailing and trying to justify your lies next time
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>>1449305
i've already been over this with the retard above see>>1449249
>>1449247
>>1449246
Either the OP's article is right and tariffs have increase consumer spending which is tracked via CPI and inflation.
OR it hasn't and currently the CPI and inflation numbers are telling us there isn't a spike aka the costs aren't being passed on to consumers yet to a significant degree.
will it happen in the future sure probably but its not happening atm nor in the past 12 months.
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>>1449309
>I was wrong and am now moving the goalposts to cope
thank you for conceding. Now go back to being a corporate bootlicker like all leftists who want to constantly deepthroat billionaires.
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>>1449311
you're really running out of material, aren't you
you don't have to post this much, lmao
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>>1449309
NTA but you're a retard who thinks its a tax on individual income, show you're more of a nitwit why don't ya.
you're an anti intellectual moron
also not only is the data showing it isn't happening atm it likely will in the future but prices haven't yet been impacted by tariffs to any significant degree.
>>1449312
of course here comes the ESL and red herring attacks because you're uneducated dipshit who got btfo.
life is wasted on a loser like you go ahead and get turned into soylent green
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>>1449316
>desperately whining that people paying more taxes isn't people paying more taxes
lmao, keep flailing shilly faggot
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>>1449309
>people are paying more taxes
So weird how the situation has become:
>Democrats: we want people to pay more taxes
>Republicans: ok
>Democrats: NOT LIKE THAT!!!1?
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>>1449318
nta but are you seriously trying to blame democrats for trump's tariffs?
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>>1449317
if you don't eat too much meats and aren't buying a new car you literally aren't affected
>>1449319
I blame democrats for being brainrotted stupid, we have one in this thread claiming tariffs are skyrocketing prices but that the CPI and inflation numbers are lying because they're saying otherwise
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>>1449321
lol ok retard
https://www.jpmorgan.com/insights/markets-and-economy/economy/cpi-report-june-2025
>Tariffs are having an impact on consumer prices
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>>1449323
>The June CPI report revealed a rise of 0.3% from the previous month, aligning with expectations. However, the core CPI, which excludes volatile items such as food and energy, came in slightly below expectations at 0.2%. Beneath these seemingly stable numbers, there were subtle shifts influenced by tariffs.

do you read the shit you post it literally says it hasn't affected and infact its lower then expected.
oh wait you're such a moron you just copypaste the title don't you.

also fyi individual months hardly mean anything its the 12 month average you should be looking at, but in this case your article is literally saying the opposite of what you want to believe.
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>>1449325
That was only one month, retard, it's gone up much more since then.
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>>1449323
great i'm talking to a dipshit who doesn't understand CPI and links an nothing piece about how "we've yet to see the impact of tariffs but they're coming!!!!"
https://www.bls.gov/charts/consumer-price-index/consumer-price-index-by-category-line-chart.htm

here's the full timeline chart, august it went up 0.2% predicted to go up 0.2-0.3% in september which is the expected CPI increase.
where's the fucking tariff spike you fucking imbecile.

Oh and fyi 2021-2022 was a 6% increase which is double what we have currently. so we're not in some omg the sky is falling tariffs are killing us yet. we're in the expected normal range.

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/consumer-price-index-cpi

here's another chart incase your illiterate and can't read this one even has it month by month%wise for you.

in nowhere do you see some enormous spike due to tariffs
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>>1449323
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/consumer-price-index-cpi
show me the fucking tariff spike on this you imbred illiterate dipshit
fuck you and fuck your parents for bring another nitwit into the world to pollute it.
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>>1449321
>esl intensifies
your bosses need to hire better shills
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>>1449329
>>1449330
>In June, U.S. customs collected over $27 billion in tariffs, three times the previous year's $7.9 billion. This surge underscores the significant challenges businesses face from rising input prices, particularly in textiles, metals and food products. In fact, the effective tariff rate may increase further, potentially reaching approximately 18% on August 1, driven by a hike on copper and reciprocal increases for countries without trade deals. However, this effective rate will lag behind the announcements for two to three months due to shipping and payment delays. Ultimately, we expect the effective tariff rate to settle between 10% to 15% as further negotiations and trade deals unfold.
>>However, this effective rate will lag behind the announcements for two to three months due to shipping and payment delays
>>>will lag behind the announcements for two to three months due to shipping and payment delays
>>>>will lag behind the announcements for two to three months
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>>1449330
CPI data is a poor indicator of tariff damage because
its effects are delayed, companies absorb costs or use loopholes, and tariffed goods are a small fraction of the total CPI basket. Companies may stockpile inventory ahead of tariffs, delay passing costs through supply chains, or shift demand, which buffers initial price increases, making the full impact not immediately visible in monthly CPI reports.
Factors affecting CPI's ability to show tariff impact

Delayed impact: Tariffs on intermediate goods don't appear immediately in CPI data. They must first work their way through the production process and the supply chain before showing up in the price of final consumer products.
Inventory stockpiling: Companies often anticipate tariffs and import goods in advance, building up stockpiles to last until tariffs take effect. This can temporarily mask the price impact.
Cost absorption and price stability: Businesses may absorb some tariff costs to avoid losing market share to competitors. This buffers consumers from immediate price hikes, though it can eventually lead to higher prices or lower profits.
Use of loopholes: Companies can use loopholes in trade agreements or redirect their imports to countries with lower or no tariffs, which lowers the actual average tariff rate being paid below the headline numbers.
Small proportion of total goods: The proportion of goods directly affected by tariffs can be relatively small within the vast overall basket of consumer spending, diluting the overall impact on the CPI.
Substitution: Consumers may switch to less expensive alternatives when certain goods become more costly, but the standard CPI basket does not fully account for this type of substitution.
Seasonality: The natural seasonality of prices, with inflation often being softer in the summer than in the winter, can also obscure the impact of tariffs in monthly reports.
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>>1449333
that literally says nothing about consumers paying more prices you do realize that's an marketplace investment prediction right?
you literally have the CPI in front of you showing prices fluxuation
>>1449331
and your parents should've learned to use protection so we have 1 less retard in the world. but thanks for proving my point can't argue move onto screech about ESL.
>>1449335
>companies absorb costs or use loopholes
great glad we finally agree that tariffs aren't fucking affecting consumer prices right now, was it that hard are you fucking stupid
> tariffed goods are a small fraction of the total CPI basket
so if CPI goes up tariffs aren't even to blame you fucking can't even stay on point stop slapping yourself for fucks sake. and I already posted that above majority of US based services rising in prices which aren't bloody affected by tariffs
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>>1449337
you have to be 18+ to use 4chan
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>>1449337
The funniest part is how you think you know economics better than Investopedia, The Federal Reserve, and JP Morgan Bank.
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>>1449341
its funny how you didn't even read the articles you posted where u got btfo and they're literally going against your argument
>>1449340
so why are you on here
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>>1449341
I'm pretty sure they think they're trolling and you're losing.
Thats how fucking dumb they are.
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>>1449323
>>1449317
>>1449309
>>1449250
So leftists think it's bad to tax corporations now that Trump is doing it? This is peak TDS. For years you demanded more taxes on corporations and now that it's here you're against it just because it came from Trump.
>>1449265
lol my grocery bill is like $80 total. Were groceries free before?
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>>1449364
>$80
but what currency did you convert it from?
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>>1449319
Nope. Showing the hypocrisy that taxes were increased and it made Democrats angry because Trump did it
>>
what compels someone to slurp billionaires on this dead board like esl shill is currently doing
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>>1449265
>every grocery bill is up by around $80.
Up from what? Even if the food cpi was nearly triple what it currently is youd have to be paying $8000 in groceries weekly to hit that mark
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>>1449265
Speaking of groceries, I just bought 2 artisan loafs from a local bakery, 3 pounds of melons and fruits, 1 pound of hummus, corn tortillas, And 4oz of fancy brie, cost $30 and I live in a pretty high CoL neighborhood and shopped at an expensive grocery store. Probably will last me about 3-4 days
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>>1449365
>LOL everybody who understands economics is a foreigner because every American is as ignorant about economics as I am!
sorry kid but I'm born and raised in America and also Rule 2
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>>1449368
>$8000 in groceries weekly to hit that mark
Lol excuse me $800 weekly
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>>1449369
Maybe one of the fakest and gayest posts on this board.
>>
>everybody who understands economics
surely she isn't talking about herself
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>>1449208
Oh good, so I'm just imagining my grocery bills being 2x what they were under Biden...
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>>1449390
confirmation bias so ya you are hallucinating
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>>1449390
no, you're not imagining it, you just decided to be a fat fuck who eats twice as much as you did under Biden. But groceries haven't gotten much more expensive.
>>1449364
this, leftists are now arguing that it's wrong to tax corporations. And none of them have the self-awareness to realize it.
>>
esl shill is begging for attention again
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>>1449200
>Leftists clam victory as the government collects 1.2 trillion for better HIV meds for fags
Oh, wait. No, leftists have always hated taxes.
>>1449390
If you were American you'd know the vast majority of food Americans eat are grown in the USA.
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>>1449400
you sure can't get queers off your mind
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Jwdywp>>1449395
Nope. Same groceries (slightly less since I'm no longer buying baby formula), just 2x as I used to pay despite couponing and waiting for sales. Cheeto-benito fucked it all up with his retarded tariffs
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>>1449402
That happened under Biden though, idiot.
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>>1449404
And before you open your retarded cock hole and spew retarded lies, here's a source, fucking piece of shit.
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/food-inflation-in-the-united-states/
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>>1449404
go back to ranting about your fetish, shill, it's more entertaining than these sorry ass lies of yours
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>>1449406
Damn, I was too late, you opened your retarded cocksucker before I could post the fucking year of 10%+ inflation
2022 7.0 7.9 8.8 9.4 10.1 10.4 10.9 11.4 11.2 10.9 10.6 10.4 9.9
2023 10.1 9.5 8.5 7.7 6.7 5.7 4.9 4.3 3.7 3.3 2.9 2.7 5.8
2024 2.6 2.2 2.2 2.2 2.1 2.2 2.2 2.1 2.3 2.1 2.4 2.5 2.3
2025 2.5 2.6 3.0 2.8 2.9 3.0 2.9 3.2
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>>1449407
i know you like to change the subject but tariffs are passed down onto consumers shill, sorry
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>>1449409
But, they haven't been. Also you're changing the subject. The subject I chimed in on was your absolutely piece of shit false claim that food prices doubles under Trump, which was a bold as fuck lie only a total fucking retard would try to pass off.
There's no point in speaking to you, obviously.
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>>1449414
read the thread's title, shill. and go to your lying classes, you're clearly skipping them
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>>1449366
That's especially hilarious because Trump won't even admit it's a tax on consumers.
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>>1449427
Cool. Vote on it in a couple years.
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>>1449430
Vote on what?
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>>1449208
It's manufactured goods that are really going to hurt. Even ones made in America are going to have ballooning costs due to tariffs on components and raw materials.
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>>1449208
>I wanna see where this supposed cost being passed onto consumers is from
Before 20th January 2025, a jar of coffee at Walmart: $8 or less. Now $16.
They grow a lot of coffee in Brazil. Gee, I wonder why other countries don't need to pay extra for their coffee?
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>>1449430
Trump could cancel the tariffs at any time if he wises up. But his thinktank yes men aren't going to let him see the harm caused by them.
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>>1449402
groceries are not 2x more expensive than they were when Biden left office. I know you're a literal child whose mom buys your groceries but just ask her
>>1449427
because it's not and you've already been proven wrong ITT. I have paid $0 in tariffs. Corporations are paying the taxes and that's an objective fact. Now corporations always pass some (not all) of these costs onto consumers, but it remains a fact that Trump increased taxes on corporations and leftists are mad because your TDS is so bad that you suddenly decided corporations should now pay zero taxes. Your obsession with Trump has caused you to oppose higher taxes on corporations just because Orange Man is the one taxing them.
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>>1449482
tldr: you're mad
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>>1449482
>you're wrong because I say you're wrong
Does this work on the containment boards you usually post on?
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>>1449490
he's just following the trump admin blueprint, which is to copy russia's blatant disregard for reality
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>>1449482
You're upset, but facts are facts. The same grocery run that cost me $120 in 2024 now costs almost $250. This is produce, meat, bread flour, milk, baby food, pasta, canned goods, etc. Basic things, store brand when available, and always when it's on sale. Your president fucked you, and you're embarrassed to admit it.
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>>1449500
No one gives a shit about your Trader Joe's and Whole Foods organic nigger cum milk doubling in price. Everyone that lives in normal areas (not taken over by gangs) can't tell a difference
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>>1449502
I shop at Kroger and/or Publix, depending on who's got the better sales. Nice try though.
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>>1449490
>>1449491
You're objectively factually incorrect. Go ahead, find a source to back up your bullshit.
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>>1449500
>I'm a literal teenager who has never gone grocery shopping
MOOOOOOODDDS! RULE 2!!!
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>>1449505
>>1449500
>>1449490
https://www.usinflationcalculator.com/inflation/food-inflation-in-the-united-states/
>The average price of food in the United States rose by 3.2% in the 12 months ending August, after posting an annual increase of 2.9% in July, according to the latest inflation data published September 11, 2025, by the U.S. Labor Department’s Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS). As recently as August 2022, the rate of inflation for food at 11.4% was the highest since May 1979.
The same grocery run that cost you $120 in 2024 now costs you... $123.84
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>>1449508
>The same grocery run that cost you $120 in 2024 now costs you... $123.84
Hey, retard, it's 3.2% added on PER ITEM.

Learn to math. If your average grocery bill involved 6 items each worth $20, your final bill would be around $138, not $123.
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>>1449508
Great, so why does it come to almost $250 then? Surely the BLS wouldn't be lying to save their skin from a vindictive administration, or are the grocery store corporations unanimously price gouging despite thinning margins?
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>>1449514
It doesn't if you're actually buying the same things. You're a larping teenager whose mom buys your tendies. My grocery bill is basically unchanged from last year.
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>>1449515
>I love lying on the internet
lmao
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>>1449515
>I'll say anything to defend orange daddy's honor on the internet. Maybe someday he'll notice me...
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>>1449515
>My grocery bill is basically unchanged from last year.
Because mom buys them all for you.
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>>1449482
>$40 billion in Trumpist taxpayers money
>Trumpists can barely afford anything
Trump values Argentina more than Americans. Do you oppose that? Persuade those who won't be voting Republican from the midterms onwards because they oppose what your orange god is doing: and I doubt they'll accept 'You must suffer for the good of MAGA!' from you - that you're right and their refusal to continue voting Republican is treason.
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>>1449536
>>Trumpists can barely afford anything
We're doing great, actually, but you do you.
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>>1449536
You're the same faggot whining about "soft power" in the Africa thread. Dumbass faggot shill
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>>1449559
There is no africa thread shill anon. How are you this bad at out language? Stop posting and go play duolingo or something
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>>1449559
There is no africa thread shill anon. How are you this bad at our language? Stop posting and go play duolingo or something
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>>1449562
>>1449563
Bot broke.
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>>1449563
>>1449562
Pajeet, fix your clanker
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1449566
1449568
samefag shill broken by >>1449562
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>>1449566
>>1449568
>>1449575
wow, shill anon, way to ignore the subject of your hallucinated thread about africa. no need to triple post though
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1449578 the shill working at a Bollywood cinema in Calcutta is projecting just as much when confronted by the fact that Trump values Argentina with $40 billion of taxpayers money more than his own voters
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>>1449578
>>1449581
Broken clanker
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>>1449581
FYI fags snuck in and changed the spelling. It's Kolkata now.
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>>1449535
https://img.ifunny.co/images/e3a57479152bab8b9aee2dfcfa63f64b2eb97353869dde0257a5b2d1f45c81bd_1.jpg
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>>1449578
What thread are you even talking about?
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>>1449470
>>going to hurt
thats the keyword the prices aren't jacked up yet which is what the tds twats are screeching about. and the OP post is claiming
>>1449480
look at the link i sent above, coffee and electricity are the two things affected heavily by the tariffs. most other foods aren't. and yes i consider coffee a luxury imported good. which i literally talked about in here>>1449229
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>>1449696
prices are actually jacked up though and the more you try to pretend they aren't the more you're going to get mocked and laughed at.
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>>1449699
nice lie lmao, they're up but they aren't "jacked up omg end of the world tariff caused this"
you're literally arguing against inflation data and the consumer price index
but good job being an anti-intellectual, oh but nyc crime is down right they just made statistics for it where they reclassified violent crimes into misdemeanors
kekeke
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>>1449700
Tariff increases don't count as inflation. I don't know why this is so hard for you.
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>>1449701
CPI tracks increases in consumer goods dipshit, inflation tracks average cost of goods
If there your imaginary tariff spike it'd be reflected in CPI and inflation data.
but why do i expect dipshit nepobabies to be educated.
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>>1449711
You've already been given multiple links from reputable sources saying tariff increases aren't part of the CPI.
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>>1449711
esl
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>>1449713
my god i'm talking to an illiterate moron who doesn't understand what CPI or inflation even are.
your "reputable" sources literally say you're wrong i disproved them point by point and showed you're a retard who can't read beyond the title.
>>1449714
yes 3 languages and i'm actually educated unlike you. is ESL ESL your comeback to everything must be very convenient being a moron.
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>>1449713
here let me explain it to you like you're a nice little baby
>tariff increases aren't part of the CPI.
do you understand what that means? that literally means the price increase AREN'T affecting consumer prices.
if tariff increases in prices aren't affecting the CPI that literally means the companies are eating all of the increased expenses.
please tell me how that's possible in a world where you claim prices are doubling.
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>>1449715
>The Federal Reserve and JP Morgan Bank are wrong because I said so!
kek
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>>1449716
They don't add it in until later, moron.
see>>1449333
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>>1449717
>illiterate moron doesn't realize they're arguing against his point
why do i expect otherwise.
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1449716
kek, the shill is pretending that companies are absorbing 50%+ cost increases without it affecting Americans at all
what a retard
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>>1449718
you do realize CPI reports are 3 months beforehand right? like in oct we only have the report for Aug?
so you expect me to believe we're going to see the inflation rate go from what its at atm i believe 3.2ish and spike up when its stayed consistent for the last literal year up to and including tariff announcements.

>>1449720
>says tariffs aren't affect CPI
>says tariffs are making consumers pay more
pick one of the two and stop being a dipshit we all know you're an uneducated moron
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>>1449720
cognitive dissonance schizo
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>>1449719
>>1449721
According to various interviews with economists from media outlets like CNBC and Reuters, experts generally attribute the delayed impact of tariff policies on prices to several key factors. First, many companies had stocked up on inventory by rushing to export and import goods before the tariff policies were implemented, and they are still in the process of depleting these inventories, which means price levels have yet to increase significantly. Second, the transmission of supply chain costs is not immediate; from imported goods to final consumer products, the cost is passed through multiple stages, including production, wholesale, and retail. Additionally, many businesses are reluctant to lose market share due to price hikes, so they prefer to absorb the increased costs from tariffs temporarily rather than immediately passing these costs onto consumers.
It's been 6 months since Trump started arbitrarily raising tariffs, and you're surprised that prices have actually increased in that time? You seem pretty disingenuous.
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>>1449727
so most of the costs haven't been passed onto consumers thank you for agreeing with me.
you're a retard who can't stay on point.
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>>1449729
You're a complete moron if you think the costs haven't been passed on after 6 months, but I already knew you were retarded when you tried to say prices haven't increased at all.
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>>1449730
CPI is saying otherwise so you're arguing against reality.
your own quoted paragraph says it's being held by companies so thank you for arguing against yourself and the actual data
pfft what a moron
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>>1449730
>moron claims tariffs are spiking up prices
>claims its not reflected in the CPI nor inflation data
>claims costs are definitely passed onto consumers despite data saying otherwise
>quotes a paragraph arguing against himself
>inserts his own uneducated thoughts that its definitely being passed on by now despite the article not saying anything of the like and being disproven by the data
what a maroon
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But worse for the likes of 1449700, because of prices being up too much there'll be those committing the thoughtcrime of not voting Republican in the midterms & beyond. Now persuade them that they must do as you say and continue to vote Republican to 'own the libs' without owning themselves thus the 'Fell For It Again' awards they've already received.
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>>1449731
We've been over this so many times. Inflation is a lagging indicator and tariffs aren't counted toward inflation until months afterward.

>>1449734
From the OP article
>While administration officials have insisted that exporters will be forced to bear the greater share of the levies, the S&P analysis suggests that is only partly true.

>In fact, the firm says that just one-third will be borne by companies, with the rest falling on the shoulders of consumers, under conservative estimates. The figures incorporated a $907 billion hit to covered companies with the remainder to uncovered firms as well as private equity and venture capital.
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>>1449738
you're literally trying to claim that the price increase is only happening now in fall and that its going to spike like crazy even though the graph for the past 12 months is completely stable with nothing abnormal
just fuck off you retard
>In fact, the firm says that just one-third will be borne by companies, with the rest falling on the shoulders of consumers, under conservative estimates.
which hasn't happened yet, it probably will happen but its in the future.
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>>1449740
Oh so now I work for S&P?
>which hasn't happened yet
Go outside. It happened in June and it's been happening ever since.
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>>1449738
>toward inflation until months afterward.
then there isn't an increase in prices
how is this so hard for a moron to understand
you can't have prices going up without inflation going up
inflation has a 2-3month delay for reporting we already have the numbers for fucking up to august
>>1449741
s&p is a stock index moron
>It happened in June and it's been happening ever since.
not reflected in the data
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>>1449744
>>1449744
>>>In fact, the firm says that just one-third will be borne by companies, with the rest falling on the shoulders of consumers, under conservative estimates. The figures incorporated a $907 billion hit to covered companies with the remainder to uncovered firms as well as private equity and venture capital.
Who do you think the $907 billion is being paid by? The Chinese?
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>>1449746
its going to be paid by you fucking dipshits of course but the fact of the matter is the tariffs aren't ballooning costs atm and 99% of you imbreds don't even know what the tariffs are even doing and overblowing it.

Manufacturing is definitely going to be affected so get fucked, but CUSMA is outright bypassing 90% of mexico and Canadian imports who are US's two biggest trading partners
the fucking tariff screeching is a literal molehill that idiots are screaming about because trump wants attention and you fell for it like a twat.

Are you importing china rare minerals to make electronics, are you importing foreign vehicles? if no then your life hasn't changed unless you're a coffee drinker in which case you're fucked
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>>1449749
>the tariffs aren't ballooning costs atm and 99% of you imbreds don't even know what the tariffs are even doing and overblowing it.
You're retarded.
https://www.tradecomplianceresourcehub.com/2025/10/18/trump-2-0-tariff-tracker/
https://www.stlouisfed.org/on-the-economy/2025/oct/how-tariffs-are-affecting-prices-2025
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/09/13/charts-how-much-costs-have-risen-since-trump-tariffs-went-into-effect.html
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>tariffs only affect 3 things
>yes I am very smart
they need to ban non-Americans from this board
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>>1449749
>yeah it's bad but that's a good thing
fuckiing christ, just jump off a cliff already faggot
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>>1449750
>>1449752
>>1449756
did you read the actual article you retard?
>inflation is up post covid, these specific category of items are being affected slightly more by tariffs
wow who'd of guessed
https://www.statcan.gc.ca/en/topics-start/food-price
here's the canada food prices across the years
you'll see 2024-2025 is pretty much in line with what's expected
>>1449752
then you posted an article by a fucking canadian with the same degree as mine. great
>>1449752
>posts an article nitpicking about toys banana and tvs
>refuses to post 10 year timeline that shows it's actually inline with what's expected

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/APU0000711211
here's the cost of bananas dipshit you'll see the whole panicky omg banana prices are skyrocketing because of tariffs, is bullshit when banana prices now are the same price as back in 2022.
Egg prices are down
gas prices are down
but i guess nitpicking specific categories that have minimal effect on the CPI is all you can do
because you are an uneducated illiterate moron

last (you) from me i've said my piece, thanks for an hour of venting and showing my superiority to a homo-inferiors please proceed to off yourself
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>>1449763
tldr: you're huffing billionaire farts
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>>1449763(me)
>>1449764
my apologies i linked you the canadian food CPI
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/food-inflation
here's the us one that shows absolutely nothing just a normal expected curve.
actual last (you) here
ahh yes i'm huffing billionaire farts while you're clicking on yellow paper clickbait that sensationalizes an issue you know nothing about and i'm trying to correct you by showing the CPI graph instead of posting omg banana prices went up 5%!! tariffs are to blame and ignore that they were the same price back in 2022 and are the exception not the norm for foodstuff
but keep being stupid and kys
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>>1449763
look at the polls in the op pic of >>1449485 and tell me again prices aren't really going up
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>>1449763
>Egg prices are down
>gas prices are down
>see? things produced in america aren't subject to tariffs
>I am very smart
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1449696
So why is it that other countries don't need to pay more for their coffee imported from Brazil?
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Trump brings record profits to shareholders, at the cost of American lives. Be good little slaves and get back to your minimum wage jobs.
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>>1450013
>>1449764
>>1449746
>>1449741
>How dare Orange Man tax corporations!
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>>1450089
That isn't what he's doing, he's taxing consumers. But at least you admit it's a tax, which is more than he can do.
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1449767
>my apologies i linked you the canadian food CPI
>but keep being stupid and kys
Yes, you do that, stupid shill that projects more than IMAX
>kys
Yes, you do that by huffing billionaire farts 1449767
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>>1450120
No he's not, that's not how tariffs work.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/mikepatton/2025/05/05/tariffs-what-they-are-how-they-work-who-pays-the-bill/
>Who Pays The Bill?
>Tariffs are collected at the U.S. border by the Customs and Border Protection agency. Tariffs imposed by the U.S. on imports are paid by the importing company.
>>1449483
>>1449427
>>1449317
>>1449250
See above.
Yet ANOTHER thread where leftists have been completely objectively BTFO. I don't know why you all keep coming here just to get embarrassed like that.
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>>1450197
Who is supposed to believe this? Someone who never goes grocery shopping?
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>>1450217
>it's another "Leftists reject objective and irrefutable reality to keep their insane delusions"
if the only way to defend your ideology is by rejecting reality itself, then maybe you should rethink things.
> Someone who never goes grocery shopping?
hilarious projecting given that earlier in this thread leftists exposed themselves as children who never go grocery shopping and thought it would be even remotely believable that grocery prices had doubled since Trump took office.
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>>1450231
>I see imaginary leftists everywhere
Oh you're one of those
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>>1450217
Corporate is raising prices, not the tariffs. They're taking advantage of a narrative, nothing more. If you want prices to go down you need to write your state government to heavily sanction corporate efforts that jack up prices in respond to the tarriffs, but you won't.
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>>1450263
Why not both?
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>>1450233
You're a literal child and you're so overcome with TDS that you're denying proven reality just because ORANGE MAN BAD! 99% of the people who fit that description are leftists. Libertarians also oppose tariffs but:
1) Most Libertarians are not literal children and have gone grocery shopping before, which you have proven that you have not
2) Most Libertarians understand economics well enough to know what a tariff is, which you have proven that you do not.

So you still sound like a leftist
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Are companies going to pay more since they won't have SNAP for their workers? Poverty wages that barely covers bills with food stamps, imagine without. Also no employee benefits while, get this, record profits for shareholders. Fucking based capitalism. Hail King Trump!
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Soon Maga will get digital tags to ostracize anyone not a patriot, you won't be able to get food or basic goods otherwise. Brilliant chess match. Pwned them terrorist fags.
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>>1450292
Whoa those are some neat strawmen you have floating around in your head.
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>>1449200
Of course. Tarrifs don't result in lower prices.
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>>1450197
Americans are hurting. This isn't good for republicans.
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>>1449749
>you imbreds
>imbreds
Ether those English classes you attend are inferior or you're too inferior in terms of caste to be allowed to attend, that which is a projectionist at a Bollywood cinema in Calcutta. Because as the above evidence shows, that's all you can do: project.
Now give me a recipe for beef tandoori.
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>>1450292
Imagine being indoctrinated to become this far right.



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