Trump says declaration of war not needed on drug cartelshttps://youtu.be/Q__bSi5rBlw?si=UesBWG7mKiiudNF3https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-declaration-war-not-needed-drug-cartels-2025-10-23/"Well, I don't think we're going to necessarily ask for a declaration of war. I think we're just going to kill people that are bringing drugs into our country. OK? We're going to kill them,"WASHINGTON, Oct 23 (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said on Thursday that his administration plans to brief the U.S. Congress on operations against drug cartels and that even though he did not need a declaration of war, operations against cartels on land would be next.The U.S. military has been increasing its presence in the Caribbean, including deployments of guided-missile destroyers, F-35 fighter jets, a nuclear submarine and thousands of troops.The United States has carried out a number of strikes against suspected drug vessels in the Caribbean and Pacific Ocean since early September, killing nearly 40 people. While the Pentagon has provided little information, it has said some of those strikes have been against vessels near Venezuela."Now they (drugs) are coming in by land ... you know, the land is going to be next," Trump added, echoing comments he has made in recent weeks.Venezuelan President Nicolas Maduro, speaking at a live event in Caracas on Thursday, warned that if the U.S. ever intervened in the country, "the working class would rise and a general insurrectional strike would be declared in the streets until power is regained," adding that "millions of men and women with rifles would march across the country."
Last week, Reuters was first to report that two alleged drug traffickers survived a U.S. military strike in the Caribbean. They were rescued and brought to a U.S. Navy warship before being repatriated to their home countries of Colombia and Ecuador.Sitting next to Trump at the same event on Thursday, U.S. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth defended the decision to repatriate two survivors, likening it to battlefield practices during the Iraq and Afghanistan wars."In those conflicts, we captured thousands on the battlefield and handed over 99% to host-nation authorities," Hegseth said. "Did we always like the outcome? Not always. But it was the standard, and it’s the same here."
>>1451281>Last week, Reuters was first to report that two alleged drug traffickers survived a U.S. military strike in the Caribbean. They were rescued and brought to a U.S. Navy warship before being repatriated to their home countries of Colombia and Ecuador.Shouldn't they have been killed or taken as POW? Or at least tried in court. Unless, of course, they aren't actually drug runners.
>>1451279>A Quote For the History BooksI wish. He says so much insane, awful, evil shit that most of it runs together and gets forgotten.
>>1451288Did you continue reading?
>>1451303Found the drug smuggler.
A good leader really shows how useless Congress is. Democrats wild have voted to give the cartels free healthcare
Bombing non-military targets is like raping women after drugging them with roofies. Hard to get caught.
>>1451304Hegseth's explanation makes no fucking sense. They were captured in international waters; there is no host-nation for our activities. If they are drug runners they would've been subject to the same way the coast guard and US forces treat captured drug runners, which isn't just releasing them back to their home countries.
>>1451351>Hegseth's explanation makes no fucking sense.Shocker.
>>1451288>Shouldn't they have been killedThat'd be a second war crime>or taken as POW?habeas petitions are a thing>Or at least tried in court.Lmao, for what? There's zero jurisdiction here and even if there were they have like ALL the civil rights violations to put before a judgeThe "smart" thing to do would be to illegally rendition them to a black site in a 3rd country known for human rights abuses before a lawyer or judge can even get near them and just quietly have them die in prison or escape in a riot or civil war in a few decades.
>>1451279>if you kill your enemies they win!leftists should not be allowed to vote
>>1451433>Guys just extrajudicially execute your enemies, potentially without actually making sure they are your enemies
>>1451434>washington crosses the Delaware to kill some drunk retards>"Muh due process!" said nobody
>you can't just bomb japan! think of all the due process that they could be having!
>>1451444>>1451445We're not at war with anyone retard. And even if we were, we can't even verify these guys were drug runners.To go off the second retarded example, this is if we decided to just bomb a random island in asia and declared "we have won the war against Japan" without actually making sure it was even a japanese island.
>>1451446Your analogy would make more sense if we didn't already know these were drug dealers. Some of them survived and were questioned.
>>1451453Two survived and I've seen 0 questioning of them. So far we have drugs recovered from the wreckage of one boat, leaving 8 others at this point with 0 verification they were actually drug boats. Which is the exact problems with these kind of blind strikes for targets without inherent tactical value; we're literally determining if we actually hit the right thing AFTER we already bombed it, nevermind the myriad of legal issues with this already.
>>1451453>Some of them survived and were questioned.One of the two survivors has been confirmed by family to be a fisherman. Upon being released to his country he faced 0 criminal charges.>https://www.cbsnews.com/news/ecuador-releases-survivor-us-strike-narco-sub-no-evidence-crime/
>>1451453>Your analogy would make more sense if we didn't already know these were drug dealers.We don't. The navy does not have some magical drug-detecting radar. They're just blowing up random ships.
We have always been at war with Oceania
>>1451279Isn't even bothering to call it a special military action or some shit.
>>1451454Just stay away from the US border with your drugs, Paco.
>>1451434Yes
>>1451471>Just stay away from the US borderThese people weren't attacked near the US border.
>>1451456>>1451458>He din du nuffin he was on his fishim boat. They're clearly drug boats and narco subs. Defending the cartels because Drumpf bad isn't the big brain move you think it is.
>>1451540>They're clearly drug boats and narco subs.Why no charges to either of the survivors? The Ecuadorian one was already determined to have committed no crime, and the other is likely not far off.
>>1451540Look Chud, the US doen't literally have satellites that can see you jerking off in your mom's basement at 2am. How did they know?
>>1451541>third world court releases cartel boat driver>hmmmmm>>1451542Do you think they're not watching them load up drugs in barrels onto a speedboat with 3 motors that then makes a straight line along a known drug corridor? Or do you think that semi-submerged and camouflaged boat is actually a fishing vessel? Bad faith or retarded.
>>1451543>>third world court releases cartel boat driverThen why release him to them in the first place? The US can take in and arrest drug runners; it's how we've operated prior to this point.>Do you think they're not watching them load up drugs in barrels onto a speedboat with 3 motors that then makes a straight line along a known drug corridor?Funny how they've yet to release footage of this to silence the critics even though they're fine releasing video of the bombing itself.>Or do you think that semi-submerged and camouflaged boat is actually a fishing vessel? Bad faith or retarded.Thanks to them releasing the video each time, I can say none of them fit that description. A boat being green isn't being fucking camouflaged.
>>1451544>Funny how they've yet to release footage of this to silence the critics even though they're fine releasing video of the bombing itself.>show me how you obtain your intelligence No.
>>1451547We already know how they obtain intelligence; you're telling me they can't show them loading drugs onto the boat? It's not like the cartel can't assume "Oh they know where we load up" if it is true.
>>1451543Kind of the point of my retarded chubposting.I personally am fairly certain no one is dropping bombs on random fishing boats.
>>1451549>Just give me classified informationNo, you'll complain anyway. In fact, there isn't one thing that can stop you from griping about gRumpf.
>>1451570This is what liberals believe THO
>>1451575They don't even believe it. They're using it to cast shade to win an election.They aren't liberals either.
>>1451571>Just trust us; they're running drugs!>No you can't see the drugsBecause the government would never lie, would they?
Apparently the US is now sending a carrier strike group to the Caribbean.
>>1451540>They're clearly drug boatsNo, they're not. If you've got proof, post it.
Also, even if those are drug boats, that doesn't mean it's okay to just drone strike them and be done with it, and definitely not okay to start bombing a fucking foreign country over drugs. This "we're just going to kill people" thing is ludicrously bad no matter what. The president cannot fucking do that.
>>1451598>The president cannot fucking do that.He actually can.
>>1451599Legally he can't, morally he can't, this goes against everything this country and government stands for. But you're right. He'll just do it anyway. Which is exactly the problem.
>>1451601No, he really, really can do it. And he's not the first president to do something like this.
>>1451821>No, he really, really can do it.See >>1451601>And he's not the first president to do something like this.Yes, he is.
>>1451823He can do it. If he can't explain why in great detail. Also provide evidence.He can dooooo eeeeettttt.
>>1451821Trump is just trying to distract from the fact that he could reopen the government by ordering little Johnson to do his job. Or ordering the Senate to change their rules to pass funding bills with a simple majority. Smoke and Mirrors my friends.
>>1451826Why would he want to reopen the government? The military is more being funded and ICE is being funded. Almost there entire Democrat voting base is on welfare
>>1451839>Almost there entire Democrat voting base is on welfarePlease stop lying, ESL.
>>1451839god you're esl
>>1451841>>1451842Bot, what is the population of India?
esl shill short circuited again
>>1451844Sooner or later you're going to trigger that filthy clanker and it'll go off the rails again lol
>>1451856do you know how sad it is that you crave attention so badly that you respond to yourself
>>1451857Wrong again boyo. This is why everyone on the board thinks you're crazy.
>>1451844…is the implication here that all Indians know the population of India off-hand? Or that non-Indians can never know that? What the fuck is this logic? It’s not even a good jab.
>>1451860the quality of the shills here has fallen off a cliff, and it was already in the proverbial marianas trench. i don't even know how to make fun of them when they're this brain-numbingly stupid, it's like they're proud of being illiterate faggots
>>1451859Not him but he's right.
I cannot wait until America burns.
>>1452313Rent free. ;)
