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The largest federal union in the United States is literally begging Democrats to pass the clean cr and end the Democrat Shutdown.
https://thehill.com/business/5574613-federal-workers-union-demands-end-shutdown/
Largest government union calls for clean CR to end shutdown

The largest union representing federal workers is calling for an end to the government shutdown, as it hits Day 27.

In a Monday release, American Federation of Government Employees (AFGE) National President Everett Kelley said “it’s time” for Congress to immediately pass a clean continuing resolution (CR) to reopen the government.

“No half measures, and no gamesmanship,” Kelley said. “Put every single federal worker back on the job with full back pay — today.”

The AFGE, according to its website, represents more than 800,000 workers in “nearly every” federal government agency. The agencies with the most AFGE members include the departments of Veterans Affairs, Homeland Security and Defense, as well as the Social Security Administration.

The union has filed lawsuits on behalf of furloughed and laid-off workers throughout the shutdown, including Oct. 3, when it sued the Education Department over automatic email responses from agency employees blaming congressional Democrats for the shutdown.

The union represents 820,000 federal and D.C. government workers.

Federal employees last received partial paychecks on Oct. 10, Oct. 14 or Oct. 16, according to the Bipartisan Policy Center.
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The shutdown, which started Oct. 1, is already the second-longest in U.S. history. The record is the 35-day shutdown of President Trump’s first term.

As of Friday, at least 670,000 federal workers have been furloughed since the funding lapse began, with roughly 730,000 working without pay, according to the Bipartisan Policy Center. Many federal workers received paychecks Oct. 10 for a pay period through Sept. 30, but were not paid last Friday.

According to the Defense Manpower Data Center, there were more than 1.34 million active-duty military personnel as of the end of August. While the Pentagon, using $8 billion in previously appropriated funds for research, development, test and education, paid service members Oct. 15, that money runs out at the end of the month.

“These are patriotic Americans – parents, caregivers, and veterans – forced to work without pay while struggling to cover rent, groceries, gas and medicine because of political disagreements in Washington. That is unacceptable,” Kelley said.

On Sept. 19, the House passed a GOP-backed CR, deemed “clean” and “nonpartisan” by Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.). Only one Democrat, Maine Rep. Jared Golden, voted for the measure.

The funding proposal, though, has failed 12 times in the Senate, with only a handful of Democrats backing it. Democrats have insisted on including a permanent extension of subsidies offered under the Affordable Care Act (ACA) in any bill to reopen the government. Republicans, meanwhile, said they prefer to negotiate on the ACA credits after the shutdown ends.

Kelley, noting “both political parties have made their point” during the stalemate, called on Congress to pass a clean CR, ensure back pay for active and furloughed federal workers, address rising costs and tackle the “broken” appropriations process.
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“The national interest requires Congress to act immediately to bring every federal employee back to work, pay them for the work they’ve already done (or been locked out from doing), and continue having the debates and disagreements that are the hallmark of a strong democracy – without punishing the people who keep our nation running,” Kelley said.
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>>1452847
>Republicans, meanwhile, said they prefer to negotiate on the ACA credits after the shutdown ends.
Maybe don't play that card after you break every promised "we'll negotiate on it later" you've made in the last year.
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They are literally voting right now. Live stream in this article: https://thehill.com/video-clips/5576273-senate-vote-stopgap-funding/
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>>1452844
Reminders:

-The Republicans created this situation when they used reconciliation to pass the One Big Beautiful Bill, which created the CR at the center of the current shutdown, with a simple majority of 51, meaning not even all Republican Senators voted in favor of it. They did this knowing it would lead to an eventual deadline where they would either need Democrat votes or to use the nuclear option to avoid a shutdown.

-Republicans are refusing to use the nuclear option which would allow them to end the shutdown right now.

-Republicans are refusing to make any concessions at all to Democrats to entice them to vote for the CR the Republicans are forcing through.

-The Republican Speaker of the House is refusing to call the House into session until the shutdown ends, meaning even if Senate Republicans wanted to make concessions, they can't because they would need to be sent to the House for approval before they could be ratified.
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>>1452844
>The union has filed lawsuits on behalf of furloughed and laid-off workers throughout the shutdown, including Oct. 3, when it sued the Education Department over automatic email responses from agency employees blaming congressional Democrats for the shutdown.
lol Democrats beg Democrats to give them their jobs back, while apologizing to Democrats.
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>>1452844
Why do Republicans still refuse to open the government. Is it because they dont want the Epstein files to be released?
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>>1452852
Wow that's one long block of cope.
Democrats de facto caused this when they voted to shutdown the government and hold it hostage.

The federal labor unions want Democrats to stop shutting down the government.

Those are facts.
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>>1452861
Republicans want 20 million americans to lose their healthcare. All they have to do is care about that and this ends.
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>>1452852
Democrats simply won't vote "yes" and are holding the US government hostage.
No one voted for Democrats, so they are not representing anyone by doing this.
Shill faggots are encouraging the nuclear option which will forever set the budget to a simple majority ensuring this process cannot ever be used if actually needed.
Terrorists.
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>>1452863
don't post unless you're american
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>>1452863
>No one voted for Democrats, so they are not representing anyone by doing this.
You know other than the other half of the country. Oh, and probably all those now-pissed Trump voters who lost their businesses to tariffs or are pissed about us spending money on handouts to Argentina while people in the US go broke.
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>>1452864
I am a voter and if Dems don't cave they'll be denying SNAP to the people who were tricked into voting for them.
And this after crashing the economy causing mass inflation under their last president who they used excessive amounts of propaganda to get elected.
It's time for the losers to pass the budget or pass the budget.
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>>1452866
try not to spew the same shill propaganda if you want to convince us you're american
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>>1452865
Seriously? There's like 12 Democrat voters, the rest is voter fraud.
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>>1452844
Sorry democrats are the treason party and put illegals over US citizens
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esl shill is having another one of his episodes
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>>1452869
Truth. They can't even feed their current brown masses, yet want to import more brown masses.
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>>1452867
(You)
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>>1452871
Where do you people get this shit from?
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>>1452878
>people
it's just one schizo talking to himself
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>>1452862
Nobody wants this. They are already drafting health care benefits. Pretty much all of them are on board with this.

What they are not on board with is negotiating with terrorists who are trying to hold the government hostage
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>>1452883
>they
at least you finally admit you aren't american
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>>1452863
>OMG WE CAN'T JUST USE THE NUCLEAR OPTION, WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO USE THE FILIBUSTER ONCE WE'RE OUT OF POWER!
Okay, then we're going to keep filibustering the bill because we don't agree with it and you refuse to negotiate
>OMG YOU CAN'T JUST USE THE FILIBUSTER, THAT'S TERRORISM!!!!!1!!!!!
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>>1452883
>They are already drafting health care benefits.
When you lie like this, it makes it obvious your stance is indefensible in objective reality
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>>1452889
Yes. n1m
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>>1452891
https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/health-care-week-in-review-13-house-3535676/
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Democrats have decided to vote against funding the government for the 13th consecutive time
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democrats murder US citizens and lick the asshole of illegals, news at 11
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>>1452907
What did Republicans change about the bill this time?
Or did they just submit the same bill that hasn't passed 12 times in a row again and expect a different outcome?
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>>1452861
>Democrats de facto caused this when they voted to shutdown the government and hold it hostage.
>Democrats [...] voted to shutdown the government
>voted to shutdown the government
>voted to shutdown
One does not "vote to shutdown the government", one refuses to pass legislation to continue funding the government. The distinction is an important one.
Also, Dems refused to vote for a CR after getting buttfucked by Republicans with the BBB. And with Trump circumventing Congress by refusing to administer funds to things already passed by Congress (unconstitutional, even if GOP-led Congress refuses to cross Trump). And the pocket rescissions.
They have absolutely no incentive to kow-tow to the Republican-led Congress.
Why would you bother to pass something that Trump is free to just disregard, with absolutely no pushback from the GOP? And they expect Dems to fund the government so they don't look bad? On what planet is that either acceptable or good policy?
>NTA btw
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>>1452863
>No one voted for Democrats, so they are not representing anyone by doing this.
Enough voted for them that Republicans need their votes to pass the bill lmao
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>1452910
settle down Ravjeet
Fix your own shithole before you form an opinion on others'
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>>1452914
And there you go. Democrats are holding the government hostage by refusing to vote.
Thus expelling the myth that republicans caused this, from your own mouth.
Holy shit.
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>>1452919
1. Republicans could use the nuclear option to end the shutdown without a single Democrat vote but refuse
2. Republicans could negotiate with Democrats to produce a bill that could get 60 votes, the way Congress is supposed to function, but refuse
3. Points one and two have been explained to you at least a dozen times but you're paid to ignore them and vomit talking points
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>>1452913
>One does not "vote to shutdown the government", one refuses to pass legislation to continue funding the government
Ok sure. The Democrats refuse to fund the government
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>>1452923
you refuse to update your spam
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>>1452920
>1. Republicans could use the nuclear option to end the shutdown without a single Democrat vote but refuse
Thus changing the rules permanently and changing the passage of a budget to a simple majority. That's a loss.
>2. Republicans could negotiate with Democrats to produce a bill that could get 60 votes, the way Congress is supposed to function, but refuse
Negotiations have been ongoing since Feb. Democrats failed to be persuasive for 8 months.
>3. Points one and two have been explained to you at least a dozen times but you're paid to ignore them and vomit talking points
Yeah, I'm the paid one. I'm the one posting on a website that by and large is disgusted by Democrats and leftist shit politics and constantly vomiting lies.
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>>1452925
lol. thanks for unwittingly admitting that you constantly vomit lies, esl shill. never learn english, it's funnier that way
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>>1452925
>Democrats failed to be persuasive for 8 months.
That's a creative way of spinning "Republicans have completely ignored Democrats and rammed everything through using reconciliation for eight months, and now that they can't do that would rather shut down the government than negotiate with Democrats".
Tell you what, prove me wrong. Show me a single example of Republicans accepting Democrat input into this continuing resolution. Should be easy to do, this is all public record after all.
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>>1452852
Wrong. Democrats are destroying this country.
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>>1452889
I know you are being ironic but this is exactly correct. Democrats are terrorists. Republicans protect America. How hard is this to understand?
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>>1452931
0/10, shill. put more emotion into it
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>>1452932
https://www.fox32chicago.com/news/outrage-after-federal-agents-use-tear-gas-just-before-halloween-parade-old-irving-park

>CHICAGO - Residents on Chicago's Northwest Side are outraged after federal agents, once again, deployed chemical agents against protesters. This time it happened as parents and children were heading to a neighborhood Halloween parade in the Old Irving Park neighborhood.
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>>1452935
>Gassing kids and people pissed their neighbors are being arrested to own the libs
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>>1452938
Not really seeing the problem. They're out of the womb. Parents should have bought em better masks if the gas bothers them.
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>>1452935
>>1452941
I'm SURE they had absolutely NO reason to do this at all and the 'protestors' were completely behaved just like we saw in the peaceful, but fiery Floyd riots.
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>>1452943
so you defend fucking kids and gassing them too? you're pretty much evil incarnate, huh
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>>1452943
>My feefees tell me they deserved it
No one cares
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>>1452943
>Guys it's perfectly fine to gas a bunch of kids going out for a halloween party as collateral
>They were saying mean words to us!
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>>1452948
Leftist terrorists had no need to interfere with ICE doing their job. If terrorists bring their children to attack ICE agents, the blame is on them for attempting to use children as human shields when intentionally organizing to interfering with ICE.
So, these people are evil if they brought their children.
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>>1452954
god you're esl
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>>1452954
Except they didn't do that, ICE was just too retarded to realize "hey maybe we shouldn't deploy tear gas in the same area as a halloween parade"
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>>1452955
Do you even know what esl means?
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>>1452957
it refers to you, who cannot go a post without making a grammatical error
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>>1452959
Gotcha so you had no retort and you're handing me your concession? Thanks.
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>>1452961
no, you constantly make glaring mistakes and i will make fun of you for it, but if losing is winning to you, have fun losing faggot
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>>1452956
It was 30 minutes before the parade, which protestors seem to have intended to disrupt.
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>>1452964
>It was 30 minutes before the parade, which protestors seem to have intended to disrupt.
Wrong again fuckwit. Protest was in response to ICE arresting a neighbor in the area. ICE literally chose the time and place.
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>>1452964
it was a spontaneous gathering of people angry about the orange gestapo kidnapping people in their neighborhood
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>>1452965
>>1452966
Who announced this event?
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>>1452969
you don't even make sense when you try to adlib, esl shill. just wait for the directive from your boss
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>>1452969
>"The protestors were using the children as shields!"
>They weren't
>"Well uh, they chose to stage this protest near the parade!"
>They didn't
>"Well they set up the parade near where illegals lived so they could use it to make ICE look bad!"
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>>1452970
1. I do this for free because I hate you.
2. faggots were blowing whistles
Most adults don't walk around with whistles. This was organized and planned and it's obvious.
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>>1452973
Holy shit you are actually trying to claim they set up a halloween parade near where an illegal lived just to make ICE look bad.
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>>1452971
>They just randomly had a bunch of whistles they were blowing
What? No. Doubt.
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>>1452973
i mean, being paid pennies is basically doing it for free, but you're still a lying faggot shill. and, whistles? really? that's the justification for gassing uninvolved children? just let ice come up with their own lie, you're only hurting their case with that weak ass excuse
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>>1452975
Yes, go back and read the posts. That's what I'm saying obviously, you fucking nard.
And because you likely won't get the sarcasm, I'm saying the protestors were there to disrupt the parade. There was obviously nothing spontaneous about this shit.
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>>1452978
you're obviously a god awful liar, you should probably just move on to a different thread.

>"Started hearing some whistles and when I looked out I saw two fully uniformed Customs and Border Patrol agents tackling a guy to the ground Literally in my front yard right here," resident Brian Kolp said.

>That man been working on a nearby home when federal agents chased him down and took him into custody in the 3700 block of North Kildare. His brother said he is an undocumented immigrant who came to the U.S. with his family when he was 4-year-old.

>Within moments, angry neighbors poured out of their homes, joining protesters blowing whistles who had been on patrol looking for federal agents.
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>>1452923
what government? all I see is King Trump running roughshod over the constitution and state's rights. He's a fucking tyrant and shitstains like you keep making allowances for it.
Why should any politician who took an oath to protect and uphold the constitution contribute to the 2025 Enabling Act, a la nazi fucking germany? Mike "totally not a practicing homosexual" Johnson is keeping the people's voices muffled by refusing to call the House of Representatives into session, violating his duties as Speaker of the House.
Your wholeass team is screwing over the country to enrich the elite and empower the white christian nationalists and you think everyone should lie down and take it?
No, motherfucker. No to all you little jizzrags.
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>>1452979
>Brian Kolp
A quick google search and we found the agitator, activist and faggot.
Brian Kolp is a former prosecutor with the Cook County State’s Attorney’s Office and a civil defense attorney based in Chicago, Illinois. He has 15 years of experience defending businesses in federal and state venues, specializing in general tort liability, premises liability, trucking and transportation, commercial litigation, and environmental litigation.
Raised in Chicago, he previously worked as a prosecutor and defended municipalities and their employees in civil rights cases.
He is currently a Senior Counsel at Maron Marvel, a law firm in Chicago.

WHAT A FUCKING COINCIDENCE! Right?
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>>1452978
>>1452976
>There was obviously nothing spontaneous about this shit.
Except the fact it was in response to ICE arresting someone, which unless the protestors were psychic couldn't be predetermined ahead of time. And if you wanna argue "well it couldn't have been spontaneous", may I introduce you to this thing known as "the internet" which people can use to communicate from far distances.
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>>1452981
are you implying that he made ICE arrest people in his front yard? you're a dumber faggot than i thought
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>>1452981
>What would a Chicago resident be doing living in Chicago?
The irony is this guy has nothing to do with immigration law.
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>>1452984
civil rights.
And the terrorists were scared enough to make this guy piss his pants
https://www.themirror.com/news/us-news/machine-gun-wielding-ice-agent-1470027
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>>1452984
He called ICE Nazis, faggot.
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>>1452988
is that the new greenlight to gas children? because if so, he's not too far off, is he
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>>1452981
>>1452987
>>1452988
So one, you're admitting ICE regularly violates civil rights. Two, you're implying this guy was a protestor when he was just a resident whose house was where ICE decided to take down a protestor, and 3, you're saying he said anything about ICE that didn't relate to watching them beat the shit out of a guy in his front lawn.

This is copium at its finest.
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>>1452990
>Copium?
You're asking for a lot of believium actually.
I don't know why I should be expected to believe this shit was random.
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>>1452991
i don't know how you can lose an argument this hard, stupid faggot. go play victim somewhere else
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>>1452991
Yeah because which is more believable '
>Protestors gather where ICE raided a neighborhood and arrested someone, then ICE decided to clear them with tear gas without realizing there was a parade happening at the same time
>Protestors actually set up the ICE raid in advance so they'd fall for their bait and gas the random halloween party so ICE would look bad
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>>1452992
Sure. I'll just enter another country illegally, then you'll be on my side.
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>>1452994
it's a shame your occupation isn't considered illegal entry into another country, faggot
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>>1452847
>The shutdown, which started Oct. 1, is already the second-longest in U.S. history. The record is the 35-day shutdown of President Trump’s first term.
It's interesting how the government becomes uniquely and historically non functional every time Trump gets in office with a Republican majority in both houses.
Some would call this a sign of brutal incompetence and a total inability to lead, negotiate, or govern.
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>>1452995
(You)
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>>1452844
Democrats do seem very determined to keep the government shut down for as long as possible, I'll give them that
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>>1453011
Republicans have the power to end the shutdown without a single Democrat
Democrats do not have the power to end the shutdown without a single Republican
These are objective facts
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>>1453012
>Republicans have the power to end the shutdown without a single Democrat
You're right, maybe it's time for them to stop trying to negotiate with people who don't care
>Democrats do not have the power to end the shutdown without a single Republican
Every Republican already wants to end the shut down though, so do like five Democrats.. All it takes is another five Democrats to want to end the shutdown and it will happen
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>>1453015
republicans already stopped trying to negotiate, shill
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>>1453016
Good input ESL
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you can tell what really hurts the shill's feelings by what he shamelessly copies
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>>1453015
>maybe it's time for them to stop trying to negotiate with people who don't care
At what point in the 28 days Republicans have had the government shut down have even tried to negotiate?
>Every Republican already wants to end the shut down though
So why haven't they ended it?
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>>1452862
>20 million americans
Are they the Illegal ones? Ones that Biden-senpai let in? Hmmm...
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>>1453037
You're literally not american or white
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>>1453037
>Are they the Illegal ones? Ones that Biden-senpai let in?
Yes, and yes
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>>1453038
Nice try ESL fag, go hate your happa ass elsewhere while you beat off to white men taking your women.
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>>1453040
this is next level projection. i don't even know what half of this post even means, but you're calling me esl. ok bud
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>>1453041
>'Projection' when divisive faggot's defense for Dem bullshit is 'lol not american'
>Said faggots wanting to bleed other's money to pay for Biden's puppet-nojitsu (non-american) illegals.


Thread is full of you limp wristed Dem 'ESL' projection faggots.
Was dismissing & calling people who disagree a Nazi not having enough weight? LOL
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i think esl shill finally snapped
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>>1453037
No.
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>>1453046
>>1453047

>Sad happa faggots stuck in an self-fellatio ESL loop.
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>>1453048
you are an faggot
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>>1453049
>an faggot
>an

POOR ENGLISH ESL REEEEEEEeeeeeeee!!!! *~pigu-squeal~*

Do I fit in now?
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>>1453052
lol ok & you Demo-fags are the lolcow of life.
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>>1453053
whatever you say esl faggot
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>>1453056
you as well ESL fag
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esl shill loves to flatter me
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>>1453053
This. One million percent this
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but not as much as he loves looking like a complete lunatic as he responds to his own posts
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>>1453061
>glukgluk projection
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>>1452844
democrats are monsters, news at 11
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>>1453066
for you
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>>1453066
I agree with >>1453067
It's not news to anyone
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>>1453066
>>1453067
>>1453069
do you get paid when you respond to yourself? there's no way, right? here, have a penny
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>>1453072
I hope Trump makes mental asylums great again so that I don't have to interact with you anymore
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>>1453073
i know you prefer having conversations with yourself, but it is a free country you know
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>>1453074
You had only replied to a single post of mine in your bout of schizophrenia.
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>>1453078
protest more, maybe you'll convince yourself
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>>1453085
Shut up retard
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>>1453098
i will make fun of you for as long as i want, now keep dancing, esl monkey
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>>1452863
>Why won't they vote yes on the thing they clearly oppose
Come the fuck on. This is more on the Republicans for refusing to learn to negotiate or compromise.
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>>1453107
EOD, don't have to. Democrats have lost.
They have two choices
1. Vote to pass the budget
2. Vote to pass the budget
The only difference between the two options is how much they hurt their own voters who work for the state and who consume social services.
Yelling "TACO" was funny though, huh?
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>>1453107
not only that but johnson has been keeping the republicans out of session so they CANT negotiate, because they second they come back in session he will be forced to swear in that new grahalva lady who will be the final signatory on the epstein file release, which johnson is desperately trying to keep from happening while the cuckstate scrubs all the republicans from the files. they will only release it when every republican name has been removed (despite buckets of evidence that they are all on there) because the republican party has become a religious cult around trump, its korean style juche dear leader shit
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>>1453115
Nice left wing conspiracy theory, CHODE.
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>>1453110
>>1453116
Notice how these chuds lash out when caught in their lies.
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>>1452844
Today is DAY 28 of Schumer's shutdown.

Democrats have now voted 14x to keep government shut down over the SAME bill they supported in March.

This is because they want healthcare for illegals.
This is why they lost the federal workers union.
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>>1453133
You sound like a Fox News morning host.
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>>1453134
you sound like a cuckold
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>>1453139
I am. And a huge ball-licking faggot tranny too.
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esl shill's mental illness is truly unprecedented
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>>1453147
First honest democrat voter in years.
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>>1453174
why can't you go a day without inserting your fetish into unrelated topics or talking to yourself
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>>1453175
Ranjeet, you are shilling for the party of troons, illegal immigrants, and basketball American crime sprees
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>>1453176
or being racist toward yourself
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>>1453179
Calling anyone a racist now shows you're a retarded bitch. You better enjoy Trump because we're going to have openly racist politicians winning soon
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>>1453182
i'm retarded because you're a self-hating indian? at least i have a real job, shill anon. and nobody believes you're white or american, or ever will
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>>1452861
>>1452863
>>1452866
>>1452932
>>1452910
What?
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>>1453207
None of these posts are your weird schizo faggot babbling nonsense that never make sense, that which is >>1453207 is a huge retarded turbo faggot
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>>1453207
Delete your 4chan account, weirdo.
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>>1453212
>>1453215
What?
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>>1453212
This is a clanker
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>>1452844
PLEASE DEMOCRATS
I'll never stop voting for you even if you allow illegal aliens to rape me to death, but I implore you, my betters my masters, to open the government so I don't have to eat Indian food (literal turds) out of my back yard.
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>>1453223
Oh fuck you're right, the clanker's back
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>>1453212 is a clanker



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