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Senate Democrats are becoming more partial to ending the Democrat Shutdown
https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5577883-senate-democrats-government-shutdown-pressure/
Democrats wobble as pressure to end shutdown ramps up

Senate Democrats are taking a close look at a Republican proposal to pay all federal employees — including essential and furloughed workers — as they’re under new pressure from the nation’s largest federal workers union to pass a clean continuing resolution to stop shutting down the government.

They also plan to introduce legislation to pay for Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) benefits and extend funding for the Special Supplemental Nutrition Program for Women, Infants, and Children, which provides essential nutrition assistance for lower income mothers.

The developments reveal Democrats are looking for a way to ease the impact of the four-week Schumer Shutdown on federal workers who are struggling to pay their daily expenses and on lower income Americans who may soon run out of food.

Publicly, Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer (N.Y.) and his leadership team are sticking to their arguments that President Trump needs to start negotiating on health insurance subsidies before they agree to reopen the government.

At the same time, Democrats are feeling intense pressure to end the Schumer Shutdown in a way that gives them a political win — or at least a face-saving off-ramp from the stalemate that has stalled Washington for nearly 30 days.

Democratic leaders say they want Trump to negotiate with them over rising health insurance premiums, but they haven’t yet said what exactly it would take to get enough votes for Democrats to agree to reopen the government.
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>>1453283
Why do you always inject your editorial nonsense into the article?
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Democratic senators say they are hearing from experts who warn that more than 40 million Americans risk going hungry if SNAP benefits are allowed to run out — an approaching crisis they say is being made worse by the Trump administration’s refusal to spend emergency food assistance funds during the Schumer Shutdown.

“In the conference, we’re trying to figure out what our list of demands are,” said a Democratic senator who requested anonymity to discuss uneasiness within the Democratic caucus over how long the Schumer Shutdown has dragged on.

The senator said colleagues are hearing not only from the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents 820,000 federal workers and called on Democrats this week to pass a clean continuing resolution to reopen government, but also from experts concerned about food assistance running out.

“We’ve heard from unions. We hear more from the nutrition people, they’re worried about running out of nutrition. That’s because the president doesn’t care about screwing people. He wants to screw us. That’s why this is such a slog,” the Democratic lawmaker said.

Several Democratic senators said Tuesday they would take a close look at a proposal sponsored by Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) to pay all federal workers — essential workers who have been required to report for duty during the Schumer Shutdown and furloughed workers who have been told to stay home for weeks.

“It’s something we’ll take a close look at. I think if we could get it right, it’s something that would get a lot of support,” centrist Sen. Mark Kelly (D-Ariz.) said.

Sen. Tim Kaine (D-Va.), who represents more than 100,000 federal employees, said he would also examine the Republican proposal.

“I’ll take a look. And the key will be, ‘Are the Rs going to put it up for a vote?’” he said.
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Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), an independent who caucuses with Democrats, said he would also review the bill to pay federal workers even if federal departments and agencies stay closed.

“I would need to go look at the details of that,” he said.

Three Democrats voted last week for Johnson’s proposal to pay only essential federal workers, such as active-duty members of the military, air traffic controllers and Transportation Security Administration agents. Every other Democrat decided they would rather continue the Democrat Shutdown.

Sens. John Fetterman (D-Pa.), Raphael Warnock (D-Ga.) and Jon Ossoff (D-Ga.), who faces a competitive reelection race next year, voted for the measure.

Senate Majority Leader John Thune (R-S.D.) said he may bring Johnson’s amended bill to also pay furloughed federal employees up for a vote right before the election in Virginia next Tuesday.

The state, which will elect a new governor and attorney general, is home to approximately 140,000 federal employees.

Thune told reporters Tuesday morning that it’s “very, very possible” the proposal to pay all federal employees during the Democrat Shutdown will come to the floor in the next few days.


Thune said Johnson “has been talking to Dems about adding furloughed workers” and predicted there would be “strong” Republican support for the bill.

The lead Democratic negotiator on proposals to pay federal workers during the Democrat Shutdown, Sen. Chris Van Hollen (D-Md.), hasn’t yet signed off on Johnson’s offer because he wants to add language that would prevent Trump from attempting mass layoffs.
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Vance urged GOP senators to stick with Thune’s strategy of holding repeated votes on a House-passed continuing resolution to fund the government through Nov. 21.

His argument, according to GOP sources familiar with the discussion, is that passing “rifle-shot” measures to reopen the parts of the government would take the pressure off Democrats and possibly extend the Democrat Shutdown.

Passing such bills in the Senate would also put pressure on the Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) to reconvene the House to take up the legislation, further undermining the broader strategy of isolating Senate Democrats during the Democrat Shutdown.

“Right now, Democrats are under a lot of pressure. You got the unions coming on against them, you got SNAP running out next week,” said a Republican senator who requested anonymity to talk about internal party strategy.

“I am very hopeful that we are close either this week or next week to pass the CR,” the source said, referring to the House-passed stopgap funding measure.

The senator said Thune and the Speaker are taking a stance against moving bills that open only parts of the government.

“If you start changing direction now, you complicate it and bring the House back,” the senator added.

Speaker Johnson told reporters Tuesday that votes to fund special carve-outs, such as salaries for federal workers or SNAP benefits, are a “waste of our time.”

“We voted Sept. 19 to fund every one of those priorities, and every Democrat in the House except one voted to not fund them,” Mike Johnson said at a press conference Tuesday.

“The Democrats are playing games. They put a few of the one-off bills on the floor, as you’ve seen in the last week or so. They put a bill to pay the troops, pay essential workers, and Democrats voted it down,” he said.
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>>1453283
Too bad Speaker Johnson (R) gave up the game yesterday and said he wouldn't let the House even consider any stopgap measures, meaning this is literally nothing but Republicans wasting time virtue signaling instead of actually working to end their shutdown
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>>1453293
Ah, it even quotes him in your own fucking article.
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>>1453296
Why yes, Democrats are losing and have no ground to stand on How could you tell?
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>>1453300
The fact that you can't actually respond in good faith shows you know you can't actually argue my point and your position is indefensible in objective reality
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>>1453304
No real response is needed. Democrats refuse to open the government after Democrats failed to persuasively debate the budget for 8 months.
They're losing and they have no power because the people they are affecting most are their own voters.
And you're sitting here complaining about Johnson like he's the problem.
Vote for the budget now.
Vote for the budget after your voters find out you've negatively affect them.
Which way, GayDem?
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>>1453306
>And you're sitting here complaining about Johnson like he's the problem.
The subject of this thread is Republicans in the Senate introducing stopgap measure bills to pay workers and fund public welfare programs during the shutdown.
Those bills, even if passed by the Senate, are dead on arrival in the House because the Republican Speaker refuses to reopen the House to consider them.
Meaning, if we give Senate Republicans the benefit of the doubt and assume they're putting forth these stopgaps in good faith, that yes.
As it relates to this thread, Mike Johnson is quite literally the problem.
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>>1453304
He's here to shit up the board with GOP talking points. Just ignore his bait and he will be forced to self bump his thread and talk to himself.
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>>1453316
So, I'm being annoyed by your bull because you're so invested in team politics you think Johnson would destroy his career by doing this in bad faith or something?
Weird.
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>>1453322
I think the realpolitik of the situation is much less emotionally charged.
Speaker Johnson refusing to reopen the House binds the hands of Senate Republicans. It forces them into a position where even if they wanted to negotiate with Democrats to end the shutdown it would be meaningless, as any changes they make to the CR would be dead on arrival in the House.
The House Speaker dictating strategy to the Senate has probably severely annoyed John Thune and other leaders of the Senate Republicans, and they're using this as a way to force him to back down and get back in his own lane.
If a bipartisan stopgap bill passes in the Senate and Johnson refuses to reopen the House, all pressure and blame is now on him. Senate Republicans will continue pointing one finger at Senate Democrats, but also point another finger at him. If there's one thing any politician loves more than anything, it's being able to shift blame.
If he reopens the House to pass it, that restores the Senate Republicans ability to actually negotiate with Democrats to get to 60 votes instead of putting forward the same bill 13 times and hoping for a different outcome.
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>>1453326
Johnson tends to hold conferences where he brazenly lies while giving a shit eating smile to the camera
Makes sense for a braindamaged christofacist who has an app where his adopted black son can audit his masturbation habits
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>>1453326
Negotiations have been going on since Feb. They're obviously not going to get whatever it is they want because they've failed to be persuasive.
Your point about The House is correct, but not likely to happen
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>>1453327
People don't realize Mike Johnson has been in the House for less than a decade, and had only been a rep for six years when he ascended to Speaker.
John Thune has been in the Senate since 2005 and was in the House for about a decade before that.
A man who has spent almost 30 years working his way up the ladder in Congress to Senate Majority Leader probably isn't too keen on some greenhorn hick from Louisiana nobody had ever heard of three years ago waltzing in and trying to usurp his authority.
>>1453328
>Your point about The House is correct, but not likely to happen
Which scenario? Senate passes the bill and Speaker Johnson holds his ground and lets it die, or Speaker Johnson caves and reopens the House?
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Johnson not swearing in the representative of Arizona cause her vote can force the Epstein file release tells me all I need to know about him. Arizona is literally getting taxed without representation, which is literally against the founding principle of the country.
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>>1453337
That's another part of it
Johnson has been using the shutdown as a way to avoid that particular shitstorm, no doubt working behind the scenes to try to get one of the signatories of the Epstein resolution to back down
Which puts him in an even more unwinnable position
If the Senate passes a bipartisan stopgap and he relents and reopens the House to pass it, he'll be forced to seat the new representative and as a result forced to allow the Epstein bill to be brought to the floor
Regardless of what happens, in the end I think Speaker Johnson is going to wind up holding the bag of this whole shutdown situation
I mostly say that due to Speaker of the House with a Republican majority having become a sacrificial position in the last decade.
Boehner, Ryan, and McCarthy have all been Republican Speaker only to be saddled with odious political baggage and cast out in the last ten years. I imagine Johnson may see a similar fate.
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>>1453337
Oh sweet schizo posting.
I bet every time you stub your toe in the morning you blame it on the Epstein files and Donald Trump
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>>1453352
weak gaslighting attempt, 2/10 at best
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It's projecting again
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>>1453352
Just swear her in it's not hard and she was legitimately elected.
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>>1453283
DACO: Democrats Always Chicken Out.
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The samefaggotry has begun.
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>>1453359
>Just swear her in it's not hard and she was legitimately elected
She will be sworn in as soon as the Democrats let the government re-open.
This isn't rocket science.
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>>1453371
you're right, shill, your job is about the furthest thing from rocket science i can think of
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>>1453371
That wasn't a problem before when there were Republicans to swear in.
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>>1453371
If the Senate passes a bipartisan stopgap to pay federal employees and fund SNAP during the shutdown and Johnson still refuses to reopen the House to pass it, as is the topic of this thread, he owns the shutdown. Period.
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>>1453382
>Waahhhhhh!!
>MUHPUBLICANS HATE ME!!!
Yes.
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>>1453390
>What if...
Here's hoping that happens so your fantasy comes true, I guess.
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>>1453316
Yeah because the dems are making a dog’s breakfast of this.
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>>1453283
The Dummycrats want SNAP/EBT, and WIC gibs for illegals that's the true hangup here.
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>>1453632
Migrants are ineligible for federal benefits.
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>>1453633
Yeah, but their American children aren't. And American children deserve to starve.
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>>1453640
>And American children deserve to starve.

When ConFags and Trump suckers are pulled up against the wall, we'll all remember that you had no problem with death before we pull the trigger on you.
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No one on the US is going to starve. Your average EBT user is well over 200lbs and they sell their cards anyway. Jordan sells are going to be down more than anything else without EBT
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>>1453350
Isn't there an easy way out of the 'sacrificial' position?

Reopen the house, then lead a duel impeachment against Trump and Vance together. It goes through, and he goes from 'sacrificial' speaker to president himself.



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