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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-pardons-rudy-giuliani-key-figures-involved-efforts/story?id=127367541

President Donald Trump issued a sweeping pardon to key figures allegedly involved in the plan to arrange an alternate slate of electors and "expose voting fraud" during the 2020 election, according to U.S. Pardon Attorney Ed Martin.

Trump pardoned high-profile individuals allegedly involved in his attempt to overturn the election, including Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell, Boris Epshteyn, John Eastman and Mark Meadows -- and 72 other individuals allegedly associated with the effort to challenge the 2020 election results.

The pardon, which Trump appears to have signed on Friday, covers each of the president's co-defendants who were charged in Georgia for a sweeping scheme to overturn election results.
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Four of the pardon recipients pleaded guilty in the Georgia case.

Crimes are okay if you are committing them for trump
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>>1456370
Aren't most of them hit with state charges?
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>>1456377
The irony here is to accept a pardon, you have to admit guilt. These simple minded fucks are going to do just that. Catch-22.
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>>1456387
>The irony here is to accept a pardon, you have to admit guilt
You only have to officially accept a pardon if you're charged or convicted. Anyone that hasn't been federally charged/convicted can avoid that.
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>>1456387
>The irony here is to accept a pardon, you have to admit guilt
No you don't you retard. You don't even need to be accused of a crime to be pardoned. Biden pardoned plenty of people who hadn't even been accused of a crime
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>>1456370
If Biden can do it then so can Trump.
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>>1456390
Being pardoned and accepting a pardon aren't the same thing. Pardons have to be entered into a court record by a defendant to count as having been accepted. Until then it's more of an official offer.
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>>1456397
>Pardons have to be entered into a court record by a defendant to count as having been accepted.
So then how did General Milley get pardoned?
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>>1456399
Biden said so because he was president.
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>>1456400
So all that stuff about a court record by a defendant to count was made up bullshit?
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>>1456401
Biden can pardon people because he was president
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>>1456403
So all that stuff about a court record by a defendant to count was made up bullshit?
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>>1456399
>So then how did General Milley get pardoned?
Again, a pardon being issued and a pardon being accepted are not the same thing.

General Milley hasn't accepted his pardon.
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>>1456407
So he's not pardoned for an unknown possible crime? He can still go to jail if found to have committed a crime within that blanket timeframe Biden gave him?

In other words Biden is such an incompetent fuckup he couldn't even grant pardons?
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>>1456408
>He can still go to jail if found to have committed a crime within that blanket timeframe Biden gave him?
Yes, assuming he doesn't enter the pardon into the court record when charged. People can refuse pardons. They usually don't though.

The flipside to all this is the feds generally don't bother charging people that have been pardoned, though, since they're holding a get out of jail free card and making them play it doesn't benefit the government in any way.

>In other words Biden is such an incompetent fuckup he couldn't even grant pardons?
No, you're just an idiot.
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Herr Müller should convince Trump to pardon Snowden. It will gain them quite a few votes. Throw in Terry Nichols, Dylann Roof and Robert Bowers and I vote for the orange buffoon in 2028 again
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>>1456377

Yup. How long until the shills realize that a federal pardon doesn't apply to state charges?
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>>1456377
It's a symbolic gesture.
The symbolism is that if you help Trump commit crimes he'll have your back and let you get away with it.
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>>1456408
>Biden is such an incompetent fuckup he couldn't even grant pardons?
Maybe.
I wouldn't be surprised if most of this pardons were written by White House lawyers and signed by an auto pen
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>>1456434
Nah that's Trump. Biden wasn't the one who flat out admitted he didn't know who he was pardoning beyond hearing a vague description.
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>>1456434
Yea this is such a weird conservative conspiracy that even trump pushes.

Biden is still alive we can just ask him. If he says he approved them… end of conspiracy. This conspiracy only works if you could prove that someone other then Biden approved those pardons and forged his signature with an autopen, but again if Biden then says he approved it, how do you disprove he approved something that says he approved?

You don’t, because this is the sort of stupidity shit Trump says and his cult echos.
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>>1456434
>auto pen
This is a manufactured issue just like people in Ohio eating pets.
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>>1456446
Of course its manufactured.
Even MAGA diehards aren't dumb enough to ignore Trump's senile ramblings about how he didn't know he pardoned a Chinese scammer, they just shoved the paperwork in front of him and he signed.
its literally everything they wanted to blame on Biden, but real.
So of course they need to double down on Biden's pardons, so they can pretend its okay Trump is a sundowning retard being worked over by foreign interests as long as their image of Biden is worse.
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>2020 elections
stealing elections is impossible the system is ironclad any pretense to otherwise is a conspiracy theory!
>2024
durrr trump stole dem elections
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>>1456451
They didn't win in 2024, that's the difference.
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>Trump tried stealing elections but failed
>Retards hate the rule of law and let Trump learn from his mistakes and steal it the second time
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>>1456451
In 2020, Trump's own people said the election was clean and he had to stage a coup to try to steal it.

in 2024 you had those mysterious software updates and 2004 tier flips that didn't make sense. And now those demographic 'shifts' only happened for that one election mysteriously.
Pretty obvious Musk had the elections hacked. But democrats are too gutless to investigate.
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>>1456387
You're retarded. The Democrats were using corrupt Democrat controlled courts to go after conservatives. Accepting a plea deal because the Democrat judge and jury are going to find you guilty no matter what you do is not admitting guilt
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>>1456484
>Democrat controlled courts
SCOTUS is 6-3 R.
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>>1456487
He's talking about district courts, like that one Obama-appointed retard who demanded that SNAP funds be overdrawn by 20m dollars.
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>>1456488
>He's talking about district courts
Which answer to SCOTUS. Shut the fuck up.
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>>1456488
>Just ignore the legal obligation SNAP has in their own policy to pay out from the emergency fund in the event of shutdown
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>>1456492
Department policies are not law and can be changed at any time, for any reason.
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>>1456493
And as such there should be some way to hold judges who knowingly or unknowingly make such obviously illegal decisions.
And there likely is a way but it's likely controlled by Democrats so there's zero accoutability.
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>>1456489
Also thanks to McConnell even the distict and appeals courts are packed by Republicans.
The election tourist is using the same lie they use to defend the conservatively biased media that because republicans don't control 100% of it, it must be biased against republicans.
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>>1456565
Cry more, Cletus
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>>1456370
You ban anyone that disagrees with you. So it makes sense a sober president would pardon people that make you seethe
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>>1456370
>overturn the election
>allegedly associated with the effort to challenge the 2020 election results

Questioning fake ballots that arrived in the middle of the night in the exact number needed to win in all the swing states...
Is equal to election fraud...
But not flooding the country with foreign invaders, giving them multiple votes, hacking voting machines and more bs
Good to know how hysterically stupid and cult like the enemies of civilization are
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>>1456570
Imagine being such an uninspired, paranoid liggeral you think you're hollering at people name "Cletus" through the intertubes.
What a retarded Paj.
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>>1456585
NTA but he's calling you a far right hick.
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>>1456585
>liggeral
That's pretty good, stealing that for later use
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>>1456575
>it was real in my mind
lol
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>>1456588
it's not embarrassing when you talk to yourself like this?
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>>1456573
Where do you people get this shit from?
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So will this set a precedence moving forward that any candidate for the presidency can lie, cheat, steal, and do whatever to win the presidency because if they do they can just pardon everyone who helped them get there?
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>>1456857
Probably not since most candidates aren't fucking insane like Sidney Powell or as greedy like Rudy Guiliani and Trump.
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>>1456885
Are you sure about that? Cause at this point basically the every Republican in the Senate has backed Trump's play either directly or indirectly.
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>>1456897
The rational members of the GOP have to pander to the same MAGA base that has been fooled by Trump into believing all sorts of bullshit. All the Qtards and Cyberninjas and Kari Lake supporters.
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>>1456857
Trump's a corrupt piece of shit and I honestly wish Democrats didn't wait 4 years to press criminal charges against him hoping they could use it to throw the election. I really wish the just prosecuted him in 2022 instead of trying to do it right before an election
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>>1456907
There is a huge leadership vacuum in the dem party. Just because the Repubs are evil doesn't mean the Dems are competent enough to do anything about it.
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>>1456916
>Repubs are evil
Only people with absolutely no life who absolutely never go outside say shit like this. Its beyond cringe.
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>>1456907
>trying to do it right before an election
They didn't. He was first indicted in early fucking early 2023. The Florida charges ended up before a corrupt judge. The Georgia charges got jammed up under the nonsense legal theory that the prosecutor only brought the charges to get her boyfriend a job going after Trump. The DC charges were just a complicated mess that wasn't ever going to make it in time. And the New York charges HE WAS FUCKING CONVICTED ON but the judge sentenced him to no sentence because he won and the judge knew anything else would just end up with him getting reversed by SCOTUS since by that point they'd helped slow walk everything against Trump. That or the judge was just in the tank too, but I imagine it was the former.

The best bet was always the Florida shit, but that shit was delayed for a reason. Trump spent a year and a half jerking around the feds on whether he would return the docs he stole, which was their primary concern what with the nuclear secrets and all, and then he spent months fucking illegally obstructing them. And then in mid 2022 when they had enough of his bullshit and just raided him, he fucking sued them to freeze the investigation and the same shitbag crook judge in the criminal case used that lawsuit to jam shit up for months. You can't bring criminal charges with all your fucking evidence frozen.
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>>1456917
Would you prefer immoral to the point that their deaths would be a net benefit to the world? Cause that's a bit wordy.
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>>1456921
>The Florida charges ended up before a corrupt judge.
We're doing the thing where judges who do stuff we dont like are "corrupt" and judges who do stuff we do like are "defenders of the Republic"?
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>o... only Democrats can be evil!
>being a Trump cultist
>projecting
Subhumans such as this never had a life in the first place, are terminally online and are proven to be infinitely cringe with everything they say.
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>>1456923
>yes, I have absolutely no life and never go outside
I'm friends with Republicans and Democrats. Just normal people with political disagreements about how best to run a country but generally agree on about 60% of stuff. Its really not a big deal.
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>>1456924
No. We're doing that thing where all her decisions got unanimously reversed at every level of appeal with judges openly derisive of her decision making and you could not find a legal commentator to defend her bullshit.

Shut the absolute fuck up. I openly defended the Republican judge from the New York case even though he let Trump get off. Cannon's just a crook, plain as day.
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>>1456925
>>o... only Democrats can be evil!
Nope. Democrats aren't evil either. But what would you know, you're a bot.
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>>1456924
The Judge for Trump's documents case is openly corrupt. She repeatedly stalled the case until the election, then used the election to stall the case until after the election, then used Trump's victory to drop it entirely. And for this she was rewarded by Trump by having consideration for attorney general, after he literally appointed her in the last year of his first term for exactly the purpose of having a pet judge.
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>>1456931
>case is openly corrupt.
No, she was not. You not liking a Courts ruling doesn't mean that Court is corrupt.
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>>1456927
>I'm friends with Republicans and Democrats
Yes, I get it, you don't take politics seriously because you're well off enough to insulate yourself from the fallout of political decisions, you don't care about those less fortunate than you, and you don't care about ethics in governance.

Meanwhile in the real world actions have fucking consequences. I'm not the one that needs to touch grass, dipshit. You are.

The fucking gall to say that bullshit when SNAP's fucked to shit and back by the Republicans. If you aren't taking politics personally, you're incredibly sheltered.
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>>1456933
nta but she was overly sympathetic to Trump and politically biased at best. At worst she was complicit in Trump's corruption and aiding a felony.
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>>1456933
Nta and yes, she is. Either you're a naive idiot unfamiliar with the case or you're a bad liar, but some of us know what the fuck we're talking about.
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>>1456934
>The fucking gall to say that bullshit when SNAP's fucked to shit and back by the Republicans.
Democrats are the ones who prevented it being funded.
> If you aren't taking politics personally, you're incredibly sheltered.
Nope. I simply have a life. You're using politics, and the associated tribalism, to fill a void in your life. A lack of meaning and purpose is replaced by soccer-hooligan tier loyalty to either blue team or red team.
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>>1456938
>I simply have a life
That shelters you from the fallout of political decisions like I said. You need to pull your head out of your ass and get some exposure to the real world. Touch grass, as they say.
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>>1456938
>Democrats were required to vote for Republican bills
kek that you actually believe this
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>>1456938
>Democrats are the ones who prevented it being funded.
Dems offered a clean funding extension for SNAP, the fuck are you talking about?

Do you know jack shit about anything?
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>>1456937
>Nta
[x] Doubt
>Either you're a naive idiot unfamiliar with the case or you're a bad liar, but some of us know what the fuck we're talking about.
I'm got an esq. after my signature block and a J.D. and LL.M on my resume. One of which is from a T12 school.

I understand that you're upset that she didn't speed the case along fast enough to meet your election day deadline, but there was nothing wrong with any of her rulings and if DOJ felt her ruling(s) were wrong they could have either appealed them or filed a mandamus.
Them doing neither is telling.
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>>1456939
>no u need to touch grass
I think I'm talking to a bot.

>>1456941
Yes. They offered standalone funding for SNAP. Obviously Republicans would not agree to that as it would kill their leverage to secure a CR.
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>>1456943
Don't forget they're also trying to ban hemp by sneaking it into the SNAP bill.
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>>1456943
>Yes. They offered standalone funding for SNAP. Obviously Republicans would not agree to that
So Republicans are the ones who prevented it being funded.

Also, starving children are only leverage if you're okay with starving children.

Also also, this shit's why people say Republicans are evil.
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>>1456942
>there was nothing wrong with any of her rulings
Maybe try telling that to the appeals courts cause they disagreed. And not politely.
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>>1456921
>which was their primary concern what with the nuclear secrets and all
And he sold them to the Saudis anyway where 2 billion.
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>>1456942
>I'm got an esq. after my signature block and a J.D. and LL.M on my resume. One of which is from a T12 school.
And yet you're not aware that legal scholars can disagree. Curious.
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>>1456370
Good. Maybe he can do it to secure term 3. If Democrats can cheat then why can't Republicans?
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>>1456977
Go to bed Rudy you have a radio show later today
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>>1456949
And pay some republican senators a big fat check because the investigations on j6 included their phone numbers.



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