https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/11/24/trump-obamacare-aca-subsidies-proposal/87446544007/WASHINGTON ‒ President Donald Trump appeared ready to propose a policy framework to address health care costs that included extending subsidies in the Affordable Care Act set to expire at the end of December, according to multiple media reports.But the White House is delaying the proposal amid resistance from congressional Republicans, MS NOW reported and CNN reported.An announcement had been expected as soon as Monday, Nov. 24. The proposal, which would require approval from Congress, includes a two-year extension of the expiring Affordable Care Act (often called Obamacare) subsidies in exchange for new eligibility limits to enroll in Obamacare, according to Politico.Although the White House never put the health care announcement on the president's official schedule, several reports said a rollout was coming this week. Those plans now appear to be scrapped following a backlash from Republicans in Congress."A lot of folks of are getting nervous because the president of the United States has the audacity to propose some changes to the ACA," Rep. Tim Burchett, R-Tennessee, an ally of Trump, said in a video posted on X. "At least Trump's proposal does something over a two-year period. It keeps people from losing their insurance and it verifies that not a bunch of fraud is going on."The congressman added: "Anyway, I think it's something we ought to be looking at, but we probably won't. We'll probably kill it in the press."
Politico reported the proposed eligibility restrictions in Trump's proposal involved capping eligibility at 700% above the federal poverty line. In addition, the White House plan sought to appropriate funds to reduce out-of-pocket costs for ACA plans and to allow enrollees who move down to a lower-premium health plan to place their tax credit in a tax-advantaged savings account.The White House's dive into health care policy comes as Obamacare premiums are on track to skyrocket at the end of the year if the subsidies are not extended, putting Republicans in Congress in a dilemma to avert a major political liability ahead of the 2026 midterm elections. The policy fight was at the center of the record-breaking government shutdown that ended earlier this month.The White House would neither confirm nor deny the reports on the proposal or its delay. “Until President Trump makes an announcement himself, any reporting about the Administration’s healthcare positions is mere speculation," White House spokesman Kush Desai said in a statement.White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters health care is being discussed "very frequently and robustly inside the West Wing."“Right now, the president is very much involved in these talks, and he’s very focused on unveiling a health care proposal that will fix the system and bring down costs for consumers," Leavitt said, without elaborating on any details.White House Deputy Chief of Staff James Blair last week said the Trump administration plans to put forward a health care bill. "We’re going to have the health care conversation. We’re going to put some legislation forward," Blair said at a Nov. 18 Bloomberg Government policy breakfast.
Trump has repeatedly talked about overhauling the Affordable Care Act, the signature law of former President Barack Obama, and floated the idea of sending federal dollars directly to consumers rather than health insurance companies.As part of the recently approved deal to end the 43-day government shutdown, Senate Republicans agreed to hold a vote on the expiring subsidies in December. Democrats had previously demanded extending the subsidies be included in any deal to reopen the government but retreated in exchange for a vote.Republican lawmakers have been split on how to address the subsidies, with some hardline conservatives arguing to let them expire and moderates backing an extension.About 22 million Americans who get Obamacare tax credits will see their monthly premium payments more than double on average if the subsidies are not extended, according to KFF, meaning consumers would pay an average of $1,016 more in 2026.
This is dumb. We should just do single payer or better yet, nationalize the hospital system.Also lift the cap on annual residencies. Doctors are overpaid because the number of qualified doctors is kept artificially scarce to the detriment of everyone.
>>1460061lmao Republicans putting themselves in a lose lose situation. Either give the dems exactly what they wanted from the shutdown or get absolutely savaged in the midterms because of rising healthcare costs.
>>1460064>Doctors are overpaid because the number of qualified doctors is kept artificially scarce to the detriment of everyone.This racket has gone on for so long it would take massive government intervention to dismantle it.>nationalize the hospital systemYeah that's going to happen. The GOP screams bloody murder about 'SOCIALISM' just for subsidizing poor people's insurance.
>>1460064>My fantasy isNo one cares. Single payer will not happen and no one wants it.And like in all other places single payer exists (the UK pretty much) no one likes it and the care amounts to "It's what we got"Additionally private insurance will still exist creating a care gap between the have's and the have-not's.You want it, yes, and it's a nice fantasy, but maybe you'll have to grow up at some point and say, "My commie horseshit has never worked well, and is trash".
>>1460069They're going to cry anything that saves the public money is communism. Just tell them to go fuck themselves and go all in on villianizing shareholders and middle management as parasites so the public backs them getting totally cut out of healthcare.
>>1460080Who is they?
>>1460069>This racket has gone on for so long it would take massive government intervention to dismantle it.Or they could just change the law. The cap on residencies is set by the federal government. That's not a massive government intervention. That's repealing a single regulation.
>>1460082Anyone right of Obama.
>>1460079Literally every civilized country including Mexico has “this commie horseshit” healthcare for their citizens and their health care is rated better than the USA. This is an easily researchable fact. Simping for our broken health care system is the most pathetic thing I have seen on the internet today. I would suggest you get help, but in this country it would cost you a fortune to get the help you need.
>>1460086The purpose of that was so that doctors have a standard of quality and can't be turned into degree mills like universities are now. This is a third world mindset because doctors in those countries are on par with someone taking a first aid online course
>>1460091The healthcare in Mexico and canada is not better than the US. People travel from both of those to the US to get care. Shove that commie horseshit lie up your ass
>>1460079>no one likes it>NHS planned during WWII by a certain Conservative PMGuess who Trump has a bust of in the Oval Office because he admires that person so much, thus his policies?
>>1460091Germany literally has our system without the excessive corruption.
>>1460094OK then why do you hate Trump, you insufferable retarded shitposting faggot?
>Trump likes the creator of socialized healthcare in UK: a ConservativeAn insufferable retarded shitposting faggot hates>1- socialized healthcare>2- Trump, who likes the creator of '1'Choose wisely
>>1460098Yet, Trump has proposed no socialized healthcare.So, the retard "Choose wisely" retard who say "Choose wisely" as if it's some clever catch-all is a retard.Why would Trump liking someone's policies influence me? And is there a like/dislike going one there? Like does he like EVERYTHING like an obsessed fanboy or does he like somethings?If you create a valid fleshed-out point before posting this will prevent you from looking like a retarded asshole that believes "gotcha's" are effective.And your "gotchas" are never even close to well constructed either. Long post made short: Shut the fuck up, faggot.
>>1460098>I'm a dumbfuck please agree with me!!No. I don't think I will.
>>1460099>the retard "Choose wisely" retard who say "Choose wisely">I'm a dumbfuck please agree with me!!No. I don't think I will.
>>14601021. Being a retard2. Being a faggotChoose wisely
>>1460079>>1460093>>1460097>>1460099>>1460100>>1460105What?
>>1460113esl shill can't read
>>1460114>esl>>1460099>So, the retard "Choose wisely" retard who say "Choose wisely" as if it's some clever catch-all is a retardSo, that which said the above hasn't attended English classes. If it did, the above would get an 'F'. Thus is reduced to projection.>>1460105So, that which says "Choose wisely" as if it's some clever catch-all catches out itself.
>>14601151. Continue posting nonsense2. Shut the fuck upChoose number 2.
>>1460117>Continue posting nonsense>>1460099>So, the retard "Choose wisely" retard who say "Choose wisely" as if it's some clever catch-all is a retardSays that without an education posting nonsense.
>>1460118>Says that without an education posting nonsense.Oh, I do see you've received a proper education in posting nonsense.Impressive.
Yes, >>1460099 posted nonsense:Those with a proper education wouldn't have posted the nonsense that is "So, the retard "Choose wisely" retard who say "Choose wisely" as if it's some clever catch-all is a retard"
>>1460118Blatant ESL jeet
"So, the retard "Choose wisely" retard who say "Choose wisely" as if it's some clever catch-all" is a retard" is what a blatantly projecting ESL jeet would say, yes.
>>1460130NTA but your posts are inane and worthless.
>>1460093Not true.
>>1460143Evidences?
Says the anon between >>1460130 and >>1460143 with a post that is inane and worthless.
>>1460146https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhGlHqm58Ks
>>1460168lol Californians are stealing Mexican healthcare. Ridiculous.Let's make this a thing so Mexico goes full on Nationalist.
>>1460175Sarah Palin crossed the border to Canada, so she could use their free healthcare
>>1460175It's already a thing and Mexico is promoting it. Americans get much cheaper healthcare and Mexico gets the economic stimulus.
>>1460178And the Founding Fathers shot Brits to avoid paying taxes too.Our rating: Stealing social services from a foreign land is based as fuck.
>>1460220>much cheaper healthcareI thought it was Fucking FREE.
A Republican administration stealing billions of MAGAts' tax money and giving it away to a country in South America and a country in the middle east is basedMAGA (alt)MIGA
Those an Extra Special Lover doesn't like entering America and stealing from their social services is more than based
>>1460061Low-income households were getting fined nearly thousand dollars per year for not being able to afford a compulsory purchase of health insurance from private insurance companies under the Affordable Care Act. It was a corrupt piece of legislation that actively punished even the poorest Americans in order to guarantee profits for private companies that lobby the federal government. Wokie faggots have been getting their headcanon twisted on this issue for decades and think they can intimidate people into adopting Marxist socialism or die, under the guise of "we just want you to have affordable healthcare", to which my response is:Who asked.
>>1460228It's affordable. They pay $20 for things that cost $2000 in the states.
>>1460239>Low-income households were getting fined nearly thousand dollars per year for not being able to afford a compulsory purchase of health insurance from private insurance companies under the Affordable Care Act. It was a corrupt piece of legislation that actively punished even the poorest Americans in order to guarantee profits for private companies that lobby the federal government. And it's still better compared to what they had before ACA
>>1460254Not really.
>>1460243How can Mexico do this?
>>1460258Americans have medical cartels like Mexicans have drug cartels.
>>1460262OK so should we be giving them trillions in giverment funding or arresting them?
>>1460265Worst case is someone pulls a Luigi on the CEOs
>>1460269Worst case is we recognize that health insurance is run by former gangster and Democrats convince us to continue dumping giiverment funds into their crooked racket, as they've been paid to do.
>>1460265I got a better idea, just cut out the private sector entirely which saves at least 80% in costs. Meaning America saves at least 4 trillion a year.
>>1460271Or does it create legal government cartels?
>>1460272As opposed to the private cartel that's currently draining at least 4 trillion from the economy every year?
>>1460271Americans love middlemen and useless bureaucrats as long as you replace the word "government" with "company"
its a simple fix: just make all healthcare providers who accept medicare extend that rate to every patient regardless of insurance status. it creates a sticker price and competition. end of problem
>>1460273Yeah, exactly like Teacher's Unions and unionized Government employees.You catch on quick.
>>1460275It's simple, just make it illegal, punishable by death for health insurance companies, DME providers, and hospitals to inflate prices.Additionally they shouldn't be allowed to be publicly traded when interacting with Government funds.
I’m 33 years old, I can run a mile in 7 minutes and bench 135. I don’t think I’m some top tier physical specimen, but it’s fucking ridiculous that republicans think I need to be paying nearly $400 a month for health insurance All I want is to not be worried about generational debt for needing to get my Appendix removed or breaking a bone. What is unreasonable about that?
>>1460276Nice try at thread topic diversion but teachers have nothing to do with doctors or health insurance.
>>1460276>DeflectingWhy do conservatives always due this to cover up their corruption? In this case the fact they want a yearly 4 trillion dollar dollar drain on the American people in the form of private helathcare?
>>1460278>I’m 33 years old, I can run a mile in 7 minutes and bench 135. I don’t think I’m some top tier physical specimen, but it’s fucking ridiculous that republicans think I need to be paying nearly $400 a month for health insuranceYou're still blaming Republicans for ACA, huh?33 and you still haven't grown up? Weird.Here's the deal, fat, most males won't need health insurance until they're in their 50's as that's when normalfags (blacks who eat nothing but fried foods mostly) start having health problems.Your issue is with the capitation part of insurance which ACA didn't address at all. Demofaggots literally said:1. Here's a bunch of fucking money2. Do whatever the fuck you think you can get away with3. Everyone now has to purchase your product.Thankfully 3 was knee-capped by dRumpf in his first term. Unfortunately, Obama was still able to send me a $500 bill.So, start putting money in a savings account for your healthcare. It'll be a better value than participating in ACA and allowing the billionaires you want trillions more for so you can save $50 a month on your insurance doing the same.Now, shut the fuck up and live with what you've advocated for and stop shifting blame, asshole.
>>1460280Not right now, no. Did you miss the point?Do you know why Illinois taxes their citizens to death?They're drowning in debt from unionized government employees.>Just do that same thing for healthcareYou're a very opinionated, underinformed piece of crap.
>>1460284I think the op pic was directed at you
>>1460289If you don't like the way Illinois does things then don't live there. Simple as.
>>1460290Maybe, but it's also retarded as are you.Because you want both more subsidies, and you hate health insurance companies.Well, you think you hate them as you championed the death of a UHC CEO (which wasn't really a bad thing IMO).But you have no logical progression past WIIFM. You don't actually want healthcare CEOs to drive rusted 1998 Dodge Neons and scrap together meals for their families.You just want to pay less and if that means giving multiple trillions for CEOs to buy yachts with you don't care. Selfishness.Or you want to live in a fantasy land where the government perfectly attends to your healthcare via singlepayer, noting that the government literally sucks at doing shit.You can't turn a regulatory body into a charity. It just doesn't work.
>>1460291That's exactly why I didn't buy a house there.
>>1460291NTA that's why I moved from there.
>>1460289Still better than third world shitholes like texas that hate freedom and leech off my taxpayer money to moment some ice forms.And you know what could fix that problem? A fully nationalized healthcare system.Checkmate, theist.
>>1460351What the fuck is going on in this post?
>>1460093>People travel from both of those to the US to get care. Even if that were true (its not) Japan has the highest life expectancy in the world and has universal healthcare
>>1460356And Japan is also ridiculously collectivist, and xenophobic.Also, no, they don't have universal healthcare.I'm not sure why you'd think this. It's not even compulsory like Germany's healthcare, which fuckwits educated about healthcare from social media memes, likely spread from insurance companies attempting to manufacture consent, which is only universal because if you don't pay for health insurance it's a crime.
>>1460370Word salad'ed myself with attempted brevity.And Japan is also ridiculously collectivist, and xenophobic.Also, no, they don't have universal healthcare.I'm not sure why you'd think this. It's not even compulsory like Germany's healthcare.Fuckwits educated about healthcare from social media memes likely spread misinformation about universal care paid for by insurance companies attempting to manufacture consent.Germany's healthcare is only universal because if you don't pay for health insurance it's a crime.
>>1460354Disregard that, I suck cock
>>1460384Name thief. How dare you?You're so butthurt you've been proven to be a retard you've resorted to this? I guess I'll just have to stop namefagging so you feel safe to post horseshit.
>>1460384the one true esl has spoken, and he is indeed a faggot
>>1460384>Disregard that, I suck cockBut enough about Trump
Republicans: fuck the poor.Democrats: dude, come on, really?
>>1460402The Affordable Care Act directly fined poor people for not being able to afford insurance they may or may not even want. Quit with the "dude" talk. Both parties went teeth out on the American people a long time ago.
>>1460403T. Heartless piece of shit
>In the capitalist USA, leeches prescribe doctors.
1460403>may not>poor people don't want insurance, don't you demodumbs understand?You'd think shilling would have become more coherent after AI usage increased
>>1460404Not really. I'd say punishing poor people for not giving guaranteed profits to insurance companies is arguably pretty heartless though. Hopefully there will be none of that.
>>1460410Poor people don't want to pay your communist fines or buy what you tell them to either, faggot. Cope better.
>>1460413>russia shill>calling other people communistLOL
>>1460414Why are you trying so hard to label me? Is it because I didn't pay your nigger president $750?
>>1460415what does this mean? did you sublease an apartment from obama or something
>>1460417That's the amount of money your faggot party tried to fine poor people for not having enough money.
>>1460419you have such simplistic arguments. it really doesn't help the allegations that you're an esl shill
>>1460420It was a simplistic policy. It also didn't work. Just because plain English makes it sound bad doesn't mean I'm doing it any disservice. What country are you from btw? I bet it's not the US.
>>1460422Not your previous interlocutor, but seems like "healthcare free at the point of need" might work, no?
>>1460425>"healthcare free at the point of need"Nice slogan, here's mine: I don't need your kind of help.
>>1460433nah i think your slogan is "constantly begging for attention and shillbux"
>>1460434I didn't beg for your attention. You interjected into a discussion I was having with someone else. Go turn your attention elsewhere, preferably to your own country, whichever that is.
esl shill keeps begging for my attention. and lying
>So mny Russans in here, english is my 1st. language btw
>>1460433>I don't need your kind of help.If you did I'd still help you. Head up your arse or not.
>>1460439It's not your place to impose benevolence where it's not wanted. The motive for doing so can only be self-gratification. Disadvantaged people are not on this earth to be a steel-on for you. There are so many idealists in modern society who still don't understand this, and it's not helping.
>>1460439You've never once actually helped.
>>1460440>On behalf of everyone who needs help, we don't need help!You clearly need help.
>>1460458>You've never once actually helped.just did, although he might not see it.
>>1460784>Everybody needs my help. I'm going to help everybody whether they like it or not, even if I know nothing about them.>btw here's your bill for not having enough money. No need to thank me, I'm just your friendly neighborhood superhero!
>>1460786lmao did you buy a carbon offset or something? Get a clue, faggot.
