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Anonymous Video resurfaces of Pete Hegse(...) 12/04/25(Thu)07:27:53 No. 1462329 https://www.newsweek.com/video-pete-hegseth-telling-military-not-follow-illegal-orders-resurfaces-11146747 A video of Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth publicly saying there must be "consequences" for carrying out unlawful orders has resurfaced as the Pentagon battles six Democratic lawmakers who urged U.S. service personnel not to follow illegal directives. "If you're doing something that is just completely unlawful and ruthless, then there is a consequence for that," Hegseth said in the clip from a talk the now-Pentagon chief gave at a conservative forum in 2016. "That’s why the military said it won't follow unlawful orders from their commander-in-chief." Why It Matters Hegseth has attacked six Democrats for a video they published last month. Senators Elissa Slotkin and Mark Kelly appeared in the clip alongside Representatives Maggie Goodlander, Chris Deluzio, Chrissy Houlahan and Jason Crow to urge active service members to disregard any illegal orders handed down from the commander-in-chief. President Donald Trump accused the lawmakers of "seditious behavior" and Hegseth called the video "despicable, reckless, and false." In a separate statement, the Pentagon said last month it was launching an investigation into Kelly, a retired Navy captain, under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ). The UCMJ is federal criminal law that applies to service members around the world. The Pentagon said it could recall Kelly to active duty for a court-martial under the UCMJ. Under military law, service members are obligated to obey lawful orders, but to disobey unlawful orders. The UCMJ does not protect soldiers who carry out unlawful orders simply on the basis that they were following directives from above. The Nuremburg Trials in the wake of World War II cemented that this cannot be used as an automatic defense. >>
Anonymous 12/04/25(Thu)07:28:35 No. 1462331 What To Know "There's a standard, there's an ethos, there's a belief, that we are above […] so many things our enemies or others would do," Hegseth said in the 2016 video. The Pentagon, when approached about the video on Wednesday, referred Newsweek to Hegseth's November remarks, in which the defense secretary said: "The fake news is delivering more fabricated, inflammatory, and derogatory reporting to discredit our incredible warriors fighting to protect the homeland." Shown the clip on air on CNN, Kelly said Hegseth was "correct" and it echoed what the Democrats had said. "But when we said it," Kelly added, "he says what we said was false and reckless." "Our laws are clear, you can refuse illegal orders, you can refuse illegal orders, you must refuse illegal orders," the six Democrats said in the video last month. "No one has to carry out orders that violate the law or our Constitution." Former officials and experts have raised serious concerns about the deployment of the National Guard in Democrat-led cities and whether U.S. strikes on alleged drug vessels in the southern Caribbean and eastern Pacific since early September have broken domestic and international law. Newsweek previously reported that former officials were increasingly worried about the sidelining of military lawyers in the Pentagon and the messaging from the administration, which has discouraged military commanders from seeking legal advice. The U.S. strike campaign on suspected narcotrafficking boats has come under increased scrutiny, with bipartisan calls for closer monitoring growing. The GOP-led Senate and House Armed Services committees have pledged to look into the first U.S. attack on an alleged drug vessel on September 2 after it emerged the military had carried out a second strike on the boat after an initial attack left two survivors. >>
Anonymous 12/04/25(Thu)07:29:35 No. 1462332 Hegseth said the day after the first strike in September he had watched the attack "live." But in remarks on Tuesday, the defense secretary said he was made aware of the need for a second strike "hours" later, distancing himself from the mission that has called into question whether a war crime was committed. Shipwrecked people have specific legal protections and there are concerns the survivors of the initial strike may have been off-limits to attacks. The administration has at once said it supports U.S. Navy Admiral Frank Bradley, the now-head of the U.S. Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) who oversaw the operation, and sought to distance itself from the decision-making in the midst of the mission. Hegseth told reporters he did "not personally see survivors" through the "fog of war." Trump also said he "didn’t know about the second strike." The Washington Post first reported last week Bradley ordered a second strike after Hegseth had allegedly issued a verbal order to kill everyone on board before the mission took place. The Pentagon and Hegseth denied this. What People Are Saying "Pete Hegseth says he’s going to court-martial me for saying the same exact thing he said 9 years ago," Arizona Senator Mark Kelly said on Tuesday. "What changed for Pete? Well to start, he spends all day thinking about how he can suck up to Trump." Pentagon spokesperson, Kingsley Wilson, told reporters on Tuesday: "At the end of the day, the secretary and the president are the ones directing these strikes. And any follow-on strikes, like those which were directed by Admiral Bradley, the secretary 100 percent agrees with." >>
Anonymous 12/04/25(Thu)07:34:35 No. 1462334 >>1462329 He should have been fired for Signalgate, would have been under any other normal competent administration.>>
Anonymous 12/04/25(Thu)08:42:43 No. 1462336 >>1462334 Under a normal competent administration a Fox News weekend host with 'Deus Vult' tattoos wouldn't have been hired as SecDef in the first place.>>
Anonymous 12/04/25(Thu)10:17:37 No. 1462340 >>1462336 Exactly. Every veteran I've talked to thinks Pete Hegseth is a clown.>>
Anonymous 12/04/25(Thu)10:20:29 No. 1462341 He is ordering attacks on fishing vessels from an oil-rich country on the pretense of stopping drug traffic in international waters, while his boss just pardoned a drug cartel boss from a country that doesn't have that much oil. this sums up Trump.
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