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Anonymous Republicans wrong again: Manha(...) 12/05/25(Fri)12:17:56 No. 1462694 https://fortune.com/2025/12/04/mamdani-effect-new-york-city-real-estate-manhattan-luxury-millionaires-billionaires/ Escape From New York isn’t just the title of a 1981 pulp classic starring Kurt Russell. It’s what Westchester County and Florida realtors told the world (including Fortune) about what would happen if Gotham elected a socialist mayor. But it’s time for a sequel with a different title. In the aftermath of much well-heeled panic about a potential mass exodus of New York millionaires and billionaires following the election of Zohran Mamdani, the contrary is already happening, and Manhattan luxury apartment buyers are voting with their wallets. Signed contracts for Manhattan homes costing $4 million or more rose to 176 in November, a 25% increase from October’s 141 deals, according to fresh data from brokerage Douglas Elliman and appraiser Miller Samuel. New signed contracts of more than $4 million increased at more than twice the rate of the overall market, the report noted. Olshan Realty similarly noted an uptick in Manhattan luxury buyers. In its most recent market report, the firm said the 17 contracts signed in the last week of November for Manhattan homes over $4 million bested its 10-year Thanksgiving week average. Compared with October’s luxury sales totaling 115, November’s sales increased more than 31% to 151 properties, according to the firm. The Big Apple’s real estate boom bucks the narrative from just a few months ago, when some of New York’s elite were preparing to pack their bags should democratic socialist Mamdani become the next mayor. Mamdani has advocated for increased eviction protections and rent freezes, as well as for a 2% income tax surcharge for those in the city earning more than $1 million a year. >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)12:18:45 No. 1462695 Mamdani’s shock primary win in June coincided with some real estate agents in Westchester, the suburb just north of the city, reporting an influx of interest in the area, with Zach and Heather Harrison of the Harrison Team at Compass, telling Realtor.com they saw “a spike in Manhattan residents reaching out about suburban properties.” Other real-estate leaders, however, argued that the data says differently. “There is no Mamdani effect,” Donna Olshan, president and founder of Olshan Realty, told Bloomberg. “The idea that people would flee New York was overblown. The numbers just aren’t bearing that out.”>Why New York is still booming Jonathan Miller, president and CEO of Miller Samuel, told Fortune the trend of wealthy buyers scooping up luxury New York real estate has been on display all year, contrary to the recent narrative of elites fleeing the city. “Throughout 2025 on a year-over-year basis, overall sales have risen, prices have risen, sales have risen faster than inventory, rents have risen, rental activity has risen, and especially in October and November,” Miller said. “I’m looking at this anecdotal argument, and the plural of anecdotal is not data.” High earners have plenty of reasons to come to or stay in New York, according to Miller. Wall Street saw is largest bonuses since 1987 in 2024, following a strong market, a trend that is expected to continue this year, as another banner year for Wall Street is expected to raise the payouts for investment bankers, traders, and wealth-management professionals by up to 25%, according to a November report from compensation consultancy Johnson Associates. >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)12:19:46 No. 1462696 These aren’t the first panicked premonitions of a dispersal of New York residents to the suburbs. In the early days of the pandemic, many feared New York would become vacant as the wealthy fled to suburban vacation homes. While many wealthy New Yorkers indeed left the city, the five boroughs nonetheless gained about 10,000 millionaires between 2020 and 2021, according to state data. Manhattan even gained 17,500 residents in 2022, mostly migrants from other boroughs. New York City’s population had been growing gradually for decades up to the pandemic, as the Census showed a recent peak of 8.8 million in 2020, with more recent data showing the city’s population at 8.5 million. The city had lost nearly a million people between 1970 and 1980, after which it grew consistently before the COVID shock. The city hit a recent trough of 8.36 million in 2022, but recorded two consecutive years of relatively sluggish growth since then. The NYC Department of City Planning argued in May 2025 that the last two years of growth suggest losses during the pandemic “were a short-lived shock.” While Miller said he doesn’t know how Mamdani’s future policies will impact the city, he noted there’s no evidence to suggest a mass millionaire migration. “This whole thing is a classic misinformation scenario, where no one’s looking at actual data,” he said. >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)13:09:51 No. 1462736 They say the rich fucks will leave if the city implements [policy the city goes on to implement with no exodus of rich fucks] for decades. I wouldn't be surprised if they've been saying it for literal centuries. >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)13:22:42 No. 1462741 'Mamdani is a very rational man' -Trump So either you agree with him or you're not rational, therefore all your opinions are wrong and anything you say goes into the trash, cultists. >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)13:27:23 No. 1462743 >>1462736 It seems like this is what the story is really about, the skittish rich are flipping their properties before the democratic socialist takes over.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)14:08:54 No. 1462753 >>1462743 >>1462736 >The rich will leave if the socialist who isn't beholden to their interests is elected >They don't leave >But they're totally going to leave soon! No, they won't. Third world shitholes like Florida are a straight downgrade from New York. Only way Mandami loses now is if trump goes schizo and illegeally withholds federal money from the city and illegally pressures businesses to stop doing business with the city too. I.E. Republicans have to cheat to have a chance, again.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)15:05:45 No. 1462775 >>1462753 New York City has wildly outsized legal power, in some cases they've even fucked companies that left the city completely, just because some faceless bureacrat didn't like them. Businesses that try to play games with it are going to have a bad time and the feds won't be able to protect them.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)15:14:00 No. 1462780 >>1462775 >faceless bureacrat Republican buzzwords are so weird.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)15:21:06 No. 1462786 >>1462780 That's what pretty much everyone calls the anonymous cogs that make sweeping government decisions from the comfort of their tangled bureaucracy. New York City's bureaucracy has a fuck ton of power. In the past it was literally more powerful than New York state and could reach out and touch people around the world with vague jurisdictional justifications.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:36:10 No. 1462871 >>1462786 That happens when you're the financial capital of the world. Trump is doing his best to destroy that though.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:39:17 No. 1462874 >>1462780 By your logic then, globalism (WHICH IS ACTIVELY GOING TO DESTROY EVERYONE, WHICH IS A BAD THING BTW) is also that. KEK, LMAO EVEN.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:40:46 No. 1462875 >>1462874 Nah, you're thinking capitalism>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:42:12 No. 1462876 >>1462874 trumpfags pretending they hate globalism is always funny. i have a qatari jet to sell you>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:44:43 No. 1462878 >>1462875 I’m talking about the WEF evil globalists, anon. Smartalec headazz.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:46:13 No. 1462879 >>1462878 if you're a racist trumpfag why do you steal black lingo>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:50:06 No. 1462881 >>1462879 Last I checked it’s because the chuds own anons like you who are ok with an Orwellian society. 1984 lookin headazz>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:51:59 No. 1462882 >>1462879 Stop speaking my language.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:52:59 No. 1462883 >>1462878 So capitalism, this is why Mamdani won BTW>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:55:38 No. 1462885 >>1462881 you should get out more>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:30:28 No. 1462920 >>1462879 Because they can't meme. Everything they got was from the Russians in 2016.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:46:45 No. 1462926 >>1462920 >MUELLER TIME! MUH RUSSIA!! Therapy, NOW>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:49:28 No. 1462927 >>1462926 >Proving my point Right wing could never meme>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:49:44 No. 1462928 >>1462926 that's a lot of caps lock bud, u mad?>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)04:28:31 No. 1462957 >>1462741 A quote, once again, presented without context. Fitting for bone-stock leftist atheist (jew) with no moral compass.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)04:34:20 No. 1462958 >>1462694 >ITT leftist brag about billionaires buying homes in NY >Ignore the drastic increase in sales volume >>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)06:48:00 No. 1462969 >Republicans wrong again: Manhattan luxury home sales surge after Mamdani's mayoral victory >'Mamdani is a very rational man' -Trump >a quote about Mamdani in a thread about Mamdani >a question which makes an irrational cultist seethe Very irritating for a rightist with no moral compass.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)17:17:46 No. 1463076 >>1462958 >Still using russian forced memes Republicans in shambles that the rich would rather deal with a socialist than a fascist shithole like Florida>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)17:26:00 No. 1463077 >>1463076 I thought leftoids were supposed to be the workers party Are you actually retarded>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)17:31:04 No. 1463078 >>1463077 >I thought leftoids were supposed to be the workers party Didn't he announce huge plans for rent control, universal child care and unionization? You can disagree with him if you want but there's nothing even remotely comparable on the right. Trump and the Republicans have done nothing but sink billions into deportation while inflation and cost of living massively increases.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)17:39:02 No. 1463080 >>1463078 >Didn't he announce huge plans for rent control We have historic examples of what happens when rent control is implemented. It doesn't help workers. Landlords jack up prices to compensate for the loss of income right before the laws go into effect. So all of those working class stiffs who already can't afford to fill a cavity or get a new set of tires get priced out of the renters market. The rich love that shit. Gives them more opportunities to launder money through NYC's real-estate market.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)17:41:11 No. 1463081 >>1463080 >Stop landlords from jacking up the prices Wow, rightoids really are this retarded if they think their price gouging can't be foiled like that.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)17:44:37 No. 1463084 >>1463080 >We have historic examples of what happens when rent control is implemented. It doesn't help workers. You're pivoting. You can say its a bad idea and I largely agree with you but the point is that Democrats are at least putting fourth some kind of plan other than "We're going to kick out immigrants and tariff everyone and that's going to magically fix your life". They're having conversations about what is and isn't good for America while Republicans are still focused on trans sports and a multi-billion dollar deportation budget that, so far, has done nothing to decrease inflation, increase wages or decrease the cost of housing. For fuck's sake, Republicans have been saying for 10 years that Obamacare needs to go and what plan have they put fourth so far? Remember in 2019 when Trump kept saying that the beautiful new Republican plan to replace Obamacare was just two weeks away? Where is it? They have control of both houses and haven't put fourth a single bill in the past 10 years that isn't either massive deficit spending or massively increasing the budget of some three letter agency. You've got to wake up, anon.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)17:53:42 No. 1463088 >>1463084 Don't forget Republicans LOVE to lie about helping workers when all they do is give money to the rich via trickle down economics, deregulate industries to allow the rich to poison and explore the poor and further strip away workers rights. They're really good at stuff like that.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)18:00:27 No. 1463091 >>1463088 But he co=opted the 'No tax on tips' thing so it's fine.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)18:10:20 No. 1463096 >>1463084 I'm not pivoting at all. I replied to a guy laughing that the rich would deal with an unironic socialist than florida. Which is stupid and totally antithetical to being pro-worker. The rent freeze is a good example because it ignores reality and the lessons learned by the past. America's long history of lobbying should have told you that the rich always use government power to destroy market competition, which is literally what's happening here. Except the competition in this case is the average renter.>>1463081 Yeah bro, go full east berlin on the NYC housing market. You stupid fucking retard.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)18:11:35 No. 1463097 >>1463084 Also:>whattabout republicans..! False dichotomy, fuck you.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)18:19:45 No. 1463101 >>1463096 >I'm not pivoting at all. You are pivoting. Your claim was that leftoids were not the party of workers then when I listed several pro-worker policies you pivoted to hyper focusing on one and saying "Well, I don't like this policies I think they're bad". Those are two separate arguments. At least Democrats have policies. What Republicans have is tarriffs and budget increases to three letter agencies while inflation staggers out of control. You have no defense for that. >I replied to a guy laughing that the rich would deal with an unironic socialist than florida There's no indication that Florida is becoming the next New York, anon. None whatsoever. New York is still the #1 economic producer in the country. No city in Florida is even 4th or 5th in line. >>1463097 >False dichotomy, fuck you. It isn't a false dichotomy. The two parties in America are Democrat and Republican. That's as accurate a dichotomy as you can get. If your insistence is that the right supports workers more than the left does, I gave several examples of them doing the opposite and you can't defend it because you know its a losing argument. Its also very curious that I listed the decade long failing of the Republican party to do anything to help workers and nobody can address that. You completely gloss over it because you know you have absolutely no reasonable defense for the utter incompetence of the Republican party.>>
Anonymous 12/06/25(Sat)18:34:35 No. 1463102 >>1463091 We shouldn't even need a tipping system like any first world country so your accuse fails. >>1463096 We should go a step further and use eminent domain to seize the properties of greedy landlords. That not only will keep prices down but will make the fascist right seethe, owning them, if you will.
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