Anonymous US sets 2027 deadline for Euro(...) 12/05/25(Fri)14:54:15 No. 1462768 https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/us-sets-2027-deadline-europe-led-nato-defense-officials-say-2025-12-05/ WASHINGTON, Dec 5 (Reuters) - The United States wants Europe to take over the majority of NATO's conventional defense capabilities, from intelligence to missiles, by 2027, Pentagon officials told diplomats in Washington this week, a tight deadline that struck some European officials as unrealistic. The message, recounted by five sources familiar with the discussion, including a U.S. official, was conveyed at a meeting in Washington this week of Pentagon staff overseeing NATO policy and several European delegations. The shifting of this burden from the U.S. to European members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization would dramatically change how the United States, a founding member of the post-war alliance, works with its most important military partners. In the meeting, Pentagon officials indicated that Washington was not yet satisfied with the strides Europe has made to boost its defense capabilities since Russia's expanded invasion of Ukraine in 2022. The U.S. officials told their counterparts that if Europe does not meet the 2027 deadline, the U.S. may stop participating in some NATO defense coordination mechanisms, said the sources, who requested anonymity to discuss private conversations. Some officials on Capitol Hill are aware of and concerned about the Pentagon's message to the Europeans, one U.S. official said. >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)14:55:29 No. 1462770 Conventional defense capabilities include non-nuclear assets from troops to weapons and the officials did not explain how the U.S. would measure Europe's progress toward shouldering most of the burden. It was also not clear if the 2027 deadline represented the Trump administration position or only the views of some Pentagon officials. There are significant disagreements in Washington over the military role the U.S. should play in Europe. Several European officials said that a 2027 deadline was not realistic no matter how Washington measures progress, since Europe needs more than money and political will to replace certain U.S. capabilities in the short term. Among other challenges, NATO allies face production backlogs for military equipment they are trying to purchase. While U.S. officials have encouraged Europe to buy more U.S.-made materiel, some of the most prized U.S.-made weapons and defense systems would take years to be delivered if ordered today. The U.S. also contributes capabilities that cannot simply be purchased, like unique intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance that have proven key to the Ukrainian war effort. Asked for comment, a NATO official speaking for the alliance said European allies had begun taking more responsibility for the continent's security, but did not comment on the 2027 deadline. "Allies have recognized the need to invest more in defense and shift the burden on conventional defense" from the U.S. to Europe, the official said. The Pentagon and the White House did not immediately respond to requests for comment. European nations have broadly accepted U.S. President Donald Trump's demand they take more responsibility for their own security and have pledged big increases in defense spending. The European Union has set a target of making the continent ready to defend itself by 2030 and says it must fill gaps in its air defenses, drones, cyber warfare capabilities, munitions and other areas. >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)14:56:29 No. 1462771 Officials and analysts said even that deadline is highly ambitious. The Trump administration has consistently argued that European allies need to contribute more to the NATO alliance, but it's not always clear where the president stands on NATO. On the campaign trail in 2024, Trump frequently bashed European allies, and he said he would encourage Russian President Vladimir Putin to invade NATO countries that did not spend their fair share on defense. But at the annual NATO leaders' summit in June, Trump effusively praised European leaders for agreeing to a U.S. plan to boost the annual defense spending target for member states to 5% of gross domestic product. In the months since, Trump has vacillated between a harder line on Russia - the bloc's main opponent - and, more recently, a willingness to negotiate with Moscow over the Ukraine conflict. European officials have complained that they were largely cut out of those negotiations. At a meeting of NATO foreign ministers this week, U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau said it was "obvious" NATO allies should take responsibility for Europe's defense. "Successive US Administrations have been saying this in one form or another pretty much my whole life...but our Administration means what it says," Landau wrote on X. >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)15:16:37 No. 1462783 Even more proof trump intends to betray the west to Putin. The EU better be prepare their nuclear option against trump.>>1462040 >>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)16:51:29 No. 1462806 >>1462768 Gotta give Putin a chance to get a strong foothold in Europe before the 2028 election That could result in someone who has actual loyalty to the US and western civilization in the White House. Very bad for Trump's benefactors>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:42:18 No. 1462877 >>1462783 The EU is censoring the internet, they have no jurisdiction over an American made internet. Preston Byrne, who put EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US, ON HIS FRICKING BACK, KNOWS THIS AND HE GOT JD VANCE TO CRACK AND TALK ABOUT IT.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)19:56:12 No. 1462886 >>1462877 >Whatabout Bringing this back to putin, trump is using the government to get late night comedians he hates fired just like Putin did. Also it shreds the first amendment too. Why is trump always sucking putin's dick?>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)20:37:11 No. 1462902 >>1462783 Indian bot post detected>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)20:48:34 No. 1462909 >>1462902 Why would you announce you're one?>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:19:21 No. 1462914 >>1462768 The US isn't gonna do shit so what's it matter? We all thought trump would do something but he's a coward faker, constantly saying "I'm ending the war in Ukraine with deal x" only for nothing to happen and they keep spying kyiv, and repeat. He says nato has to be led by Europe and he won't fund it, then a week later nothings happened and he's funding it. Faggot.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:28:03 No. 1462918 >>1462909 How many more Ukraiggers are you going to get die just so you can post memes?>>1462914 It's time for Ukraiggers to surrender. The war is over and there's nothing left if Europe and the US don't formally declare war on Russia and invade it. All of the aid to Ukraine is just being sent to Israel>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:29:26 No. 1462919 >>1462918 Why doesn't Russia just stop their war of aggression and give back Ukraine's rightful clay?>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:35:41 No. 1462923 >>1462918 >How many more Ukraiggers are you going to get die Poetry.>>
Anonymous 12/05/25(Fri)21:43:21 No. 1462925 >>1462918 >Guys, think about how many Ukranians have to die to keep this war up? >Why won't they just surrender to Russia so all of them die at once >>
Tommy Hurts, Sam, please use l(...) 12/06/25(Sat)22:48:43 No. 1463166 Germany will create the fourth Reich, and all Europeans will join them this time except for those idiot britons. America has their penis so far up Great Britain's ass that when America moves Great Britain has to move to
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