>>1465414
That werent so hard, eh Zelenskyyy?

N(ear) A(merican) T(raitor) O(rganization)

How much longer until Zelenigger flees to Israel as a billionaire

>>1465414
>>1465491
>>1465501
Least obvious Russian/Republican shills on 4chan

>>1465414
>U.S. and Europe offer sufficient security guarantees

We have a standing protection treaty since '93. US, UK, and (((russia)) guarantee the defense of Ukraine. Russia broke that treaty when they invaded.

You want a new treaty? With Trump in office?

>>1465507
sorry, 1994

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum

>>1465507
>You want a new treaty? With Trump in office?
Imagine thinking dRumpf wouldn't glass a nation for violating a treaty with his name on it.

>>1465510
Cambodia and Thailand just shot at each other again.

>>1465414
The fundamental problem for Ukraine remains the same, how to ensure the continued existence of their nation, not just during this war but during the decades to come. I don't know how they can set up firm enough security guarantees that are also likely to be honored by big talk but low commitment allies to sufficiently deter Russian aggression.

>>1465514
They don't deserve to exist and no one wants them to anymore

>>1465512
Who the fuck cares what yellas do in yella countries.

>>1465515
To be fair, I personally don't mind if they exist, but as an American I don't really care strongly either way.

>>1465516
>Imagine thinking dRumpf wouldn't glass a nation for violating a treaty with his name on it.
>"what about these ones?"
>d-d-doesn't count, who cares!?
Alright.

>>1465507
>>1465509
>Seek immediate Security Council action to provide assistance to the signatory if they "should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used".
This isn't a true security guarantee and with Russia being the one violating their security it wouldn't have gone anywhere anyway.

Trump is violating this agreement though
>Refrain from economic coercion designed to subordinate to their own interest the exercise by Ukraine, the Republic of Belarus, and Kazakhstan of the rights inherent in its sovereignty and thus to secure advantages of any kind.

>>1465517
>To be fair, I personally don't mind if they exist, but as an American I don't really care strongly either way.
Yeah, the American education system does suck.

>>1465518
Your arguing with someone who is strongly cognitively dissonant, schizophrenic, and retarded.
He shits up the board all day with absolutely wild off the wall levels of tds posting

>>1465414
>American security guarantees
Last time they took those offers they lost 1/4 of their country.

>>1465525
I know. Between that and constant trolling and ban evading I think that anon should literally seek mental help
>Inb4 esl shill, samefag, etc.

>>1465507
>>1465521
modern day evil empire and people wonder why the rest of the world hates americans

>>1465529
Who is, the EU or the US?

>>1465530
US,
EU is closer to a clown circus, i wouldn't be surprised if we had another french revolution complete with guillotine at this rate

>>1465533
Meh, you say that now, then when a Democrat is elected and all the horrors are simply hidden you'll change your mind, then a few years later, when Democrats are out of office and the truth is exposed, you'll be all like, "Oopsies, please vote for me, the terror, I've changed I swear."

And the EU is on this left-o-fascist vector that never seems to end.

>>1465534
>then when a Democrat is elected and all the horrors are simply hidden you'll change your mind
Not the anon you are talking to, but it's mostly false. That's why more and more old Dem are losing to progressives in the primaries.

>>1465539
>That's why more and more old Dem are losing to progressives in the primaries.
Aw, lawd, has it been 60 years since the terror of leftwing policies such as the terror of communism already? Is it time once again for leftist, not learning from history, to repeat the terror.

Jesus! Hitler! Someone! Save me from these assholes that fool the young and the brown into supporting their terrorism.

>>1465534
democrats are more heinous then trump, people have hated america long before trump went into office, americans just have no self-awareness. Its the biggest offender of cultural terrorism imaginable, the far-left have fucked over so much with their pearl grasping censorship wave in the past decade, i'm willing to bet if they weren't such pieces of shit trump wouldn't of even gotten elected.

If anything trump's improved their image at least to the youth, because now you don't have as many retarded karens screeching about omg that's so misogynist stop objectifying women. Doesn't change that america is the obnoxious evil empire.

>>1465554
how does someone get this brainwashed

>>1465554
>i'm willing to bet if they weren't such pieces of shit trump wouldn't of even gotten elected.
It's hard to say. I personally think Trump got elected because there's almost zero difference between Democrats and Republicans. Each seem to have a unified trajectory but their methods differ.
And I think people realized this after Bush-Gore played out as no one, not even Democrats, took issue with destroying the ME after 9/11 under false pretexts.

>>1465558
How does someone sit here all day and post one line trolling comments without any wit?

>>1465562
It's easy because you keep making bait threads like this one and bumping them every hour by talking to yourself.

>>1465570
I've made 0 threads this past month you fucking mong.

>>1465559
democrats are infinitely more obnoxious though in the past decade, post-9/11 starting swinging towards the left because of bush but mostly because Obama was such a great speaker, then ever since 2010s there's been an extreme left wing censorship and unhinged karen wave, that's turned most ordinary people off from them.
you can't really talk with leftists bigots on issues like for example, the trans issue, any pushback or criticism you give them about female spaces being invaded and they just answer with vitriolic insults about how you're a nazi transphobe or how BLM justifies billions in property damage and assaulting people who disagree with you.

I don't think people cared that much during trump's first term but they definitely did in 2024, and i think most people nowadays can see them for what they are, just a bunch of morale self-aggrandizing narcissists that don't follow what they preach. Meanwhile you have outright criminal and fraud republicans but they don't have that obnoxious holy then thou aspect.

Its also pretty obvious in recent years leftists are the more unhinged violent group of the two. Its hilarious they keep preaching the ADL's stats as if its proof that political violence is committed by righties but ignore that ADL is compromised and explicitly excludes BLM and antifa from its statistics.

>>1465572
>an extreme left wing censorship and unhinged karen wave
Lmao what kind of mirror dimension have you been living in? Karens and censorship are republican.

>>1465571
No one believes you, not even you.

case in point look at>>1465570>>1465558>>1465576>>1465577
he's a clearly uneducated moron with no ability to debate but he'll just self insert himself in and screech insults. watch him go on about ESL ESL.
people tend to associate the party with their supporters.

>>1465576
keep telling yourself that, rddt google bluesky old twitter were such free speech bastions when they were ran by leftists huh. the places leftists like YOU accused of being right-wing hiveminds.
Maybe don't ban the_donald sub if you wanted to at least pretend to be neutral
smh no self-awareness as expected from moron

>>1465572
>extreme left wing censorship
This is why they call you the "woke right", you can't stop crying about imaginary far left censorship.

You're in a thread talking about two far-right leaders trying to bully a nation into surrendering to the military takeover of their country talking about how bad the left is. Excuse me, the American left, so the """left."""
You people are fucking delusional. Not even the slightest hint of awareness, neither of yourselves or of the world around you.

>>1465579
>I saw some angry posts from bot accounts on twitter and thought they were real
We know

>>1465572
>democrats are infinitely more obnoxious though
>you can't really talk with leftists bigots on issues like for example, the trans issue, any pushback or criticism you give them about female spaces being invaded and they just answer with vitriolic insults
Absolute truth.
>I don't think people cared that much during trump's first term but they definitely did in 2024, and i think most people nowadays can see them for what they are, just a bunch of morale self-aggrandizing narcissists that don't follow what they preach.
I wish this were true. Unfortunately I don't think most people are paying enough attention. They some how still manage to retain a modicum of credibility despite how absolutely indignant and inconsolable they are.
>Its also pretty obvious in recent years leftists are the more unhinged violent group of the two. Its hilarious they keep preaching the ADL's stats as if its proof that political violence is committed by righties but ignore that ADL is compromised and explicitly excludes BLM and antifa from its statistics.
Indeed. Any stat that shows that right wingers are the primary offenders of political violence looks only at one stat "Deaths". Thus avoiding the social terrorism and violent coercion tactics now common to the so-called "left".
>InB4 unoriginal, samefag, esl shill, etc., schizo poster, maybe.

>>1465581
To be fair, they can't win. They should've surrendered ages ago with smaller losses.

>>1465581
>why did elon buy twitter he should've used the money on africa to stop world hunger
>why are you talking about something I don't like only I'm allowed to talk about other subjects
go cry yourself to sleep with your pity party, how dare you talk about this how dare you do this, meanwhile you'll go into threads and shit screeching esl esl like this retard>>1465584

>>1465582
go to a main sub like r/news on reddit and you have people justifying murder being upvoted repeatedly but that's fine

>>1465579
>rddt google bluesky old twitter were such free speech bastions when they were ran by leftists huh.
Each of those places are megacorporations right by capitalists, not leftists.

>>1465585
>go to a main sub like r/news on reddit and you have people justifying murder being upvoted repeatedly but that's fine
Look I'm sorry they banned /r/the_donald for being a hive of death threats and right wing terrorists but that's no reason to have such a hateboner for reddit for the last 10 years.

>>1465586
they're leftists hivemind cesspits anon all of them are, you're literally trying to deny reality with your stupid playground logic that anyone with a brain can see through.
thats assuming you aren't the retard from above claiming all karens and censorship are from the right

>>1465588
moving the goalposts on top of being a hypocrite, and appeal to morals all the while being fine with leftists terrorism and death threats.
Huh its incredible how pathetic someone can be as a human being.

>>1465589
They're absolutely not leftist, you have become so indoctrinated by the far right you think corporate inclusiveness in the name of maximum profits is "leftist".

>>1465592
>They're absolutely not leftist,
the audience they're catering to is
you're opinion is also utterly worthless, you're a moron who just loves to distract from the conversation don't expect anymore replies from me its a waste of time talking to an uneducated bigot

>>1465591
It sounds more like you got banned for posting either fake news or threats and are projecting that onto the imaginary "leftists".

>>1465586
To be fair, there are now leftists outside of behind the dumpsters behind the Starbucks.
There are no elected leftists and if there are, they quickly become non-leftist.
Leftists are being played like a fiddle by capitalists. And it's fun to not be a leftist and watch it play out as they hopefully advocate for crony capitalists like Democrats and their crony capitalist agendas like rabid dogs, desperate to defeat the evil orangeman.
And this script has been paying in an extended venue lasting a decade.
I've been watching in horror, driven mad, all I can do is laugh at the folly of the leftist. We would be on the same side if the majority of them weren't sub-80 IQ.

>>1465594
I'm not the one who entered a thread that has nothing to do with leftists and started whining about leftists.

>>1465596
How spiteful.

>>1465596
>desperate to defeat the evil orangeman.
He defeats himself and the country. Democrats don't have to do anything but watch the economy crash and the country burn down and wait their turn to fix it, like always.

>Leftist
>Leftist
>Leftist
So this is the new 'woke' where it has no definition other than 'I am villainizingit to push my own agenda'.

ignoring that distraction, Zelensky is going to need major security guarantees from the EU since any deal trump signs is worth less than toilet paper given how quickly he'll stab people in the back, especially for Putin.

>>1465577
You said you want 5 Dailymail threads? i can do that.

>>1465606
>Democrats don't have to do anything but watch the economy crash and the country burn down
This is what you did with Biden, so true statement up to this point.
You obtained your coveted power and fucked everything up like you always do. You fucked up so hard with Biden that a Republican was able to secure the popular vote. The only thing Democrats ever fix are elections.
I'm hoping not to suffer after the midterms, and fuck you for making me place all my hope on Republicans who are useless little fucks. But useless is better than intentionally or unintentionally destructive.
I'm not sure how you can look at what you retards did with Biden and say, "I want more of that!".
Perhaps it's like the mantra, "Real communism has never been tried", but replaced with "Real Democrat policies have never been implemented".
Essentially, don't @me you fucking tool.

>>1465611
>But useless is better than intentionally or unintentionally destructive.
You've got to be doing this shit on purpose.

>>1465609
Be my guest. Dailymail turned on Trump earlier this year. So did the new york post. You'll have to resort to posting breitbart and the daily caller.
>>1465611
The opposite of "progressive" is "regressive". That's what Trump's MAGA party is. The country is regressing.

>>1465612
I'm convinced the poster you replied to is 80 years old and lived through the McCarthyism era to be that scared of "commies".

>>1465607
Zelensky already said no to legitimizing Russian territorial gains. That infuriates both Trump and Putin.

>>1465614
no, he's just a shill who belongs on facebook

>>1465613
I was eyeballing these,
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15371663/Ilhan-Omar-family-Somalia-war-crime.html
This is comedy
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15383213/Native-American-tribe-signed-ICE-detention-warehouses-traitors.html
Obvious Democrat school teacher:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15371967/mark-paulino-santa-teacher-new-jersey-child-abuse.html
Lefist being a LGBTQ terrorist for no known reason.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15382113/DoorDash-driver-arrested-shocking-doorbell-footage-pepper-spray.html
And one to make leftfags simpl curse at
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15381703/Trump-Brown-University-shooting-lockdown.html

But it looks like Dailymail now fagsout about ad block. That's sort of a turn off. You might be saved from Your DailyMail threads.

>>1465619
What's the difference. You're going to keep making threads like >>1464594 with completely wrong editorialized titles mentioning democrats either way, and a few anons will call you out on it before the thread either dies or becomes a necrobumped zombie thread with you samefagging every few hours.

>>1465620
they won't have their easy source for shill articles, ironically because shilling doesn't pay

>>1465622
trump stills people he's supposed to pay all the time, I can't imagine him paying his army of online shills.
They're worse off than the janitors /here/

>>1465624
*stiffs

>>1465614
Nah, I'm 45 and McCarythy was way too lenient. As communism is literally a system of slavery to the government. The entire idea and anyone exposed to it should've been quarantined and and books on the subject destroyed. Communists are the biggest fools on the planet. Followed by Progressives who are outright totalitarian socialists (end-stage communists who seek immediate slavery to the state).
I've lived though Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump, Biden with faded memories of Reagan, and Bush Sr. I remember during Bush the first, the news was constantly reporting on H1-B visa expansion. I remember under Clinton, "It was just a blowjob" as he signed the future of the US away with Republicans of the time playing the distraction, with the stupid impeachment. Obama owes me $500 for trying to force me to buy product and fund corporations.
I voted Democrat for a number of years in my early teens and 20s, then got pissed after Obama stole $500 with his ACA shit. I went on to actually get me insurance license which led me to a point where I realized it was all a scam, which changed my outlook on Democrats from unintentionally terrible to absolutely vile and evil with complete intention.
But enough about me, you faggots get a room to commit seppuku.
>>1465616
Who in the fuck uses faceberg?

>>1465625
Thank you

>Obama stole $500
shill is going to pretend that Obama stole anything from an Indian citizen

>>1465626
There are no commies in American politics.
> I remember under Clinton, "It was just a blowjob" as he signed the future of the US away with Republicans of the time playing the distraction
Clinton compromised with Newt Gingrich before the blowjob, which is why he gutted welfare and cracked down on immigrants.
>then got pissed after Obama stole $500 with his ACA shit
This didn't happen.
>Bush the first, the news was constantly reporting on H1-B visa expansion.
Trump and Republicans were always for H1-B visa expansion
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/10/14/how-donald-trump-can-win-with-guns-cars-tech-visas-ethanol-and-4chan/
This revisionist history of yours doesn't line up with reality.

>>1465630
>Clinton compromised with Newt Gingrich before the blowjob, which is why he gutted welfare and cracked down on immigrants.
Which were two of the better things he did
>This didn't happen.
It did. The individual mandate was in effect at the time. Maybe you're not old enough to remember the attempts to force people to buy product or face a fine. Also of interest were the dawn of the terms "new normal" and "social distancing". Which were so weird to see rehashed in 2020.
>Trump and Republicans were always for H1-B visa expansion
Where did I say otherwise?

>>1465635
>attempts to force people to buy product or face a fine
nobody does, but you're probably used to people not recognizing your drug induced hallucination
its also hilarious that they're complaining about the republican contribution to the ACA

>>1465635
Oh and I guess to expand on the individual mandate, guess which states force individuals to buy product from mega corp or pay a fine?
New Jersey, California, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, and the District of Columbia
These states being strongholds of the far right conservative pro-corporate party, the Republicans.

>>1465637
It's hilarious zero Republicans voted for it.
Also for you: >>1465638

>>1465635
>>1465638
You would have to be over 26 and not have health insurance during that time period to have to pay the fine, which only applied to taxes at the end of the year anyway. This larping you're doing is getting increasingly complex and I'm enjoying you inventing this complicated fictional history for yourself.

>>1465640
Hey, faggot, I stated my age earlier. Can you do basic fucking math?
And I quit my shitass job to go be a hobo for a year. And yes, when I say Obama stole $500 from me, that did come out of my tax return, money I needed as a jobless hobo.
If you're going to continue being an absolute ass, I simply won't even respond.

>>1465639
>It's hilarious Republicunts negotiate in bad faith
its the joke that doesn't end
the cope goes on and on my friend

>>1465620
I didn't make that thread you stupid fucking paranoid schizophrenic little bitch.
And you're still going to gRumpf post and troll. because everyone everyone who calls you a tranny and faggot is the same person, right?
It couldn't possibly be that you;re acting like a tranny faggot right?

>>1465651
>>1465577

>>1465501
Uh huh, and can you explain to me why he didn't ditch on day one?
>He wanted money bro
A financial gamble based on the poorest country in Europe standing up against the entire fucking Russian army for years is beyond absurd.

>>1465651
>And you're still going to gRumpf post and troll. because everyone everyone who calls you a tranny and faggot is the same person, right?
On this board? Yes.
>It couldn't possibly be that you;re acting like a tranny faggot right?
Correct.