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https://edition.cnn.com/2025/12/15/politics/us-military-strikes-three-boats-pacific
The US military conducted strikes against three alleged drug-trafficking boats in the eastern Pacific Ocean on Monday, killing 8 people, according to US Southern Command.

“On Dec. 15, at the direction of @SecWar Pete Hegseth, Joint Task Force Southern Spear conducted lethal kinetic strikes on three vessels operated by Designated Terrorist Organizations in international waters,” SOUTHCOM wrote on X. “Intelligence confirmed that the vessels were transiting along known narco-trafficking routes in the Eastern Pacific and were engaged in narco-trafficking.”

At least 95 people have now been killed in strikes on suspected drug boats as part of a campaign, dubbed Operation Southern Spear, that the Trump administration has said is aimed at curtailing narcotics trafficking. The US military most recently struck a suspected drug boat on December 4 in the Eastern Pacific, killing four people on board, according to another social media post from US Southern Command.

The latest strikes come as questions about the Trump administration’s offensive on the alleged drug boats continue to mount.

The Trump administration has told Congress that the US is in an “armed conflict” against drug cartels that began with its first attack on September 2. The US military carried out a follow-up strike on the suspected drug vessel operating in the Caribbean that day, after an initial attack did not kill everyone on board, CNN previously reported, which some Democratic lawmakers and legal experts said could amount to a war crime.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, a Democrat, said Monday there will be an all-senators briefing Tuesday on the strikes, featuring Secretary of State Marco Rubio and Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth.

“The American people deserve oversight. We intend to deliver it,” he said in a post on X.
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Rubio and Hegseth are also expected to provide a classified briefing for House lawmakers Tuesday, according to two sources familiar with the plans.

The administration has labeled those killed “unlawful combatants” and claimed the ability to engage in lethal strikes without judicial review due to a classified Justice Department finding.

The strikes are part of a monthslong pressure campaign on Venezuela that has included moving thousands of troops and a carrier strike group into the Caribbean and repeated threats against President Nicolas Maduro.

Last week, the US announced new sanctions on shipping companies and boats it says help move Venezuelan oil, a day after it seized a sanctioned tanker off the country’s coast.
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Reminder it costs $6.5 million per day for the carrier group to be deployed to the region off the coast of Venezuela and hundreds of thousands every time they blow up a boat with US ordinance.
https://www.power107radio.com/national/taxpayer-costs-rise-as-u-s-mounts-pressure-campaign-against-venezuela/
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>>1466072
Reminder: no one cares, faggot.
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>>1466073
Are you sure?
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>>1466074
in his mind all that matters is hunter's penis, etc
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>>1466075
Yes, not even you.
>>1466075
Hunter Biden's penis is a WMD.
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>>1466070
Why did they put a grey censor box over the contents of the boat? If the cargo was supposed to be drugs and not fishing equipment why wouldn't they want us to see that?
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>>1466076
I care deeply that I'm paying for more missiles spent killing fishermen so Trump can have a distraction from Epstein and the economy.
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>>1466104
>Fishermen
Retard,
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>>1466108
Why does the truth make you angry?
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>>1466071
They're not combatants just because they say so. And this is still murder even if they were drug traffickers
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>>1466073
US Tax payers should care, at least they are mentioned every time by the gov when some money is cut here and there. But who needs health care or food stamps anyways...

At least they could FIRST ask some questions and THEN perforate the boats there. I mean, MAYBE the "drug dealers" have some value informations that lead to the big guys behind?
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>>1466111
>They're not combatants
You're right, they're not privileged combatants. They are smugglers of illicit drugs that finance violent international crime organizations that have been identified as terrorist organizations.

That's why they were attacked as terrorists.
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>>1466127
>That's why they were attacked as terrorists.
US law actually defines on what grounds someone can be considered a terrorist for the purpose of becoming a potential military target and drug runners don't meet that standard.

And even if they did, these people are not part of a conflict.

And even if they were, there's no authorization of force.

And even if there was, this shit would still violate international treaties we've fucking ratified as law due to the nature of the strikes.
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>>1466114
Turns out you can just kill drug runners
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>>1466072

Money well spent, you'll have to get your drugs elsewhere.
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>>1466104
>killing fishermen

lol, in high powered speed boats dumping bails of... "fish" as they're being pursued?
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>>1466154
WMDS!
WAR ON TERROR!
PARTY LIKE IT'S 2002 FELLOW MAGA NEOCONS!
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>>1466154
Fishermen use speedboats and your proof of "dumping bails" doesn't exist.
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>>1466154
Who doesn't fish out of their submarine?
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>>1466192
>Fishermen use speedboats
Lol.
Lmao even.
Nobody fishes at 50mph you tard
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>>1466194
>Never heard of speed fishing
Who's the retard? And just because these fishermen are loading drugs onto their fishing boats from know production facilities and traveling north, not casting any nets nor using any large rods, doesn't mean they aren't simple fishermen on tons and tons of meth and blow.
Get your head right!
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>>1466070
>b-but they're drug boats
Even if we knew this was true, and we don't, this would still be a fucking war crime. They're civilians in international waters, it doesn't matter if they have drugs, you can't just fucking kill them. Even if they DO have drugs, and we're pretending that you can just say that and they're instantly criminals, drug trafficking isn't even a capital offense.
This is wrong on every level. Every version events that MAGA spins is still a fucking war crime.
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>>1466205
>This is wrong on every level.
You jonesin' for your blow there, addict?
>still a war crime
There's no war. Additionally the US has engaged in police actions in other cunts for decades.
There's no point in debating it either since it's part of the 'get trump' Democrat grift. That's why everyone's given up hope on you. Everything you've done for the past ten years has been unhinged and ridiculous. You've exposed yourselves as people without morals and without cause desperate for power.

Disgusting.
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>>1466211
>police actions
Killing random people with no proof counts as police actions in your village?
Maybe you shouldn't live in a shitty third world hellhole
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>>1466215
>Killing random people with no proof counts as police actions in your village?
So they say. That's why the blacks riot every year to get rid of police anyway. ACAB, mirite?
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>>1466215
>no proof
There's no proof that would be good enough for you though.
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>>1466211
>You jonesin' for your blow there, addict?
You can play that card if you want. It doesn't matter. You're still supporting war criminals.
>There's no war.
That doesn't matter either. You don't need to be at war to commit war crimes, that's not what the term means.
>There's no point in debating it either since it's part of the 'get trump' Democrat grift. That's why everyone's given up hope on you. Everything you've done for the past ten years has been unhinged and ridiculous. You've exposed yourselves as people without morals and without cause desperate for power.
Projection.
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>>1466220
Your proof amounts to "Well intel said they PROBABLY have drugs". Not that we get to see said intel either btw.
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>>1466234
>"Well intel said they PROBABLY have drugs"
That's being too generous. It's "well there was PROBABLY intel that said they PROBABLY have drugs."
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>>1466234
Man, I love when Trumps stonewalls you losers like this. It keeps you stuck in place unable to fully move to the next made up bullshit.
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>>1466243
>heh, he's stonewalling by being accused of crimes and then refusing to release any evidence against it other than "I said no"
Lmao Hegseth is likely going to prison after Trump inevitably dismisses him for embarrassing him. Or the term ends. Either way, his cabinet has to remember he only has a few years left at most whereas they still have decades they can spend in prison.
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>>1466246
Wow, your concern about those 'fishermen' seems so genuine now.
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>>1466220
>boarding the boat and confiscating the drugs wouldn't be good enough for you
but it would
thats the proof people are asking for, that there's at least drugs on the boat
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>>1466234
On the other hand if even one of the men on those boats was an innocent fisherman they’d be parading images of his weeping family all over the news 24/7
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>>1466246
>accused of crimes
No one credible has made any criminal accusations.
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>>1466248
>but it would
No it wouldn't.
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>>1466251
I guess the imaginary voices in your head are trumping reality again
What else are the drug induced voices telling you? I need to know what else I apparently believe
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>>1466254
The US has been intercepting these boats for decades. We know what's on them. We also know who's carrying the drugs because we run their names through a criminal database.

This has nothing to do with drugs or war crimes. It's because bombing brown people makes democrats sad.
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>>1466256
Good post.
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>>1466256
>We also know who's carrying the drugs because we run their names through a criminal database.
Ok so release the names of the people on board. Prove they were known drug runners.

Oh wait, you can't.
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>>1466256
>It's because bombing brown people makes democrats sad.
No it doesn't.
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>>1466268
it makes the drug induced libs in their head sad, and thats all the schizo needs
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>>1466265
Why does Trump need to prove anything to you personally?
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>>1466271
No, no one is sad, and everyone knows these are boats filled with drugs.
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>>1466272
To be fair on this point, he really should address the concern. However, Democrats and their allies are entirely unscrupulous and literally don't care. They'll just move on to the next scam to attempt to enrage voters against Trump.
And this will continue until at least the midterm elections, in which I seriously hope Democrats get absolutely wreck by.
However, they won't because most voters literally don't care about politics and waft between how they feel and how their feelings align with what the TV and passing online leftist influencers puke into the ether.
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>>1466293
NTA, he has a valid point. Why does Trump need to prove anything? They didn't vote for him, they'll still call him a nazi for existing, and as you said even if we stopped everything to prove each boat had drugs they'll still bitch about it until the next political topic comes up and then complain about that. They don't give a shit about these boats, they only care about ORANGE MAN BAD.
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>>1466272
>>1466293
>>1466294
All these chuds desperately trying to justify and rationalize extrajudicial killings is the best gift any democrat could have asked for.
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>>1466296
>It's only okay when WE do it!
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>>1466297
And that's the thing. Obama didn't not drop bombs, Biden didn't either.
So, Obama lights up a wedding, and they didn't complain. Trump lights up a boat filled with drugs and they're pants shitting mad, supposedly.
RIP, Venezuelan fishermen. They're chilling in the afterlife with austere religious scholars now.
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>>1466297
You're complaining about that but not about this. Why is that?
>>1466302
The wedding was collateral damage.
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>>1466290
Even if they are filled with drugs, which is doubtful, it doesn't justify killing the people involved to stop it when Venezuela isn't a threat to the US.
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>>1466304
>You're complaining about that but not about this. Why is that?
Because you dismissed me back then when I was bitching about Biden blowing up an entire building full of kids to try and save face after he fucked up the Afghanistan evac. Didn't agree it was a war crime, didn't question the intel he got, didn't hold his feet to the fire for ANYTHING even when it was blatantly obvious it was his fucking fault for that entire year of fuckups in Afghanistan. And that actually got our soldiers killed. So I don't want to hear shit from you about the 'poor, innocent (((fishermen)))' when you swept for that senile fuck.
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>>1466304
>You're complaining about that but not about this. Why is that?
I didn't care personally.
>>>1466302
>The wedding was collateral damage.
Proof?
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>>1466309
You’re supporting war crimes out of spite? How petty can you be?
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>>1466309
Collateral damage
>>1466311
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civilian_casualties_from_the_United_States_drone_strikes
>The New York Times reported in 2013 that the Obama administration embraced a disputed method for counting civilian casualties, which in effect counts all military-age males in a strike zone as combatants, giving partial explanation to the official claims of extraordinarily low collateral deaths.[120] At other points, United States officials had claimed that interviews with locals do not provide accurate numbers of civilian casualties because relatives or acquaintances of the dead refuse to state that the victims were involved in militant activities.[121]
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>>1466309
you should just abandon reason at this point shill, none of your points have any logical consistency and we're all fully aware
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>>1466315
So it's fine if they aren't the actual target, huh?
Maybe these "fishernen' shouldn't be fishing where US solders are fishing with missiles?
Collateral damage.
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>>1466321
But they’re not doing that, they’re specifically targeting the boats.
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>>1466312
1) Not a war crime.
2) Not giving a fuck is not the same as supporting.
3) It's really hard to take anything your side says seriously when you've been calling Trump a dictator for the last 10 years, as well as calling me a nazi since 2015. You fucking chimps are cheering for our deaths, so don't lecture me about pettiness.

>>1466315
>Collateral damage
For a war that was over with. We had zero KIAs after Trump signed the Doha agreement - until Abbey Gate happened thanks to the ISIS bomber Biden let out - because the Taliban was done fighting us. As long as we left the country they didn't give a fuck. Hell they even set up a perimeter around Kabul to help with crowd control to stop the flood of Afghanis trying to leave the country. Do you understand how badly Biden fucked up to the point where we had to rely on our own enemies of 20 years just to get out of the fucking place, when they had every opportunity to turn it into a blood bath?

But you didn't care then, so don't expect me to care now.
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>>1466324
Which have drugs.
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>>1466324
Are you sure they're not just fishing?
I'm going to need some evidence from them saying they aren't just fishing with missile and accidentally hitting these boats.
I need to see a video.
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>>1466326
1. They are.
2. It is, in a way, and I don’t think you don’t care. You’re far too glib and mocking about these people getting killed for me to believe you.
3. We called Trump a nazi and a fascist because he kept saying and doing fascist and nazi things. That’s only become more and more extreme over time. I don’t deny that’s become a loosely used term, but it’s still an objective fact that it fits Trump.

>>1466327
Proof?
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>>1466326
>You fucking chimps are cheering for our deaths
We literally told you vermin to get your shots so you wouldn't die.
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>>1466326
>For a war that was over with
According to whom?
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>>1466327
>A Colombian family has lodged a complaint with the Inter-American Commission on Human Rights (IACHR), which could ultimately lead to reparations for the death of Colombian fisherman Alejandro Carranza.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/12/07/politics/trump-immunity-drug-boat-strikes-hegseth
>The strikes likely also constitute crimes against humanity under international criminal law, as Luis Moreno Ocampo, who served as the International Criminal Court’s (ICC) first chief prosecutor, concluded in early November. This would expose Trump administration officials and service members complicit in the attacks to heightened legal exposure in foreign courts and international tribunals. There is also precedent for prosecuting the systematic killing of drug traffickers by government officials as a crime against humanity, with the recent arrest of Rodrigo Duterte, former president of the Philippines, by the ICC.
https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-administration-s-drug-boat-strikes-are-crimes-against-humanity
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>>1466309
>Acting on bad intel is a war crime but firing on shipwrecked sailors isn't.
Have less shitty takes and you won't be "dismissed"

God, people like you deserve what you get.
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>>1466334
>A Colombian family
Which cartel is backing them?
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>>1466338
Is every Colombian citizen automatically baked by a cartel? and if so, why is Trump invading Venezuela instead of Columbia?
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>you see this ship overloaded with chemical barrels? It's actually for fishing
why are some of you fucks so dishonest?
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>>1466296
Republicans extrajudicially kill foreigners.
Democrats extrajudicially kill American citizens.
That's why they're whining currently. Their main sticking point with the bombing of these boats has nothing to do with minimizing life lost, because the boats are filled with drugs used to kill American citizens.
After a certain point you need to ask yourself whether or not you're on the right side.
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>>1466343
at least you admit you're shilling for murder
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>>1466343
>After a certain point you need to ask yourself whether or not you're on the right side.
They literally don't care. They only care about power and they believe this is a means to attain power. They are not on the right side. They are disgusting.
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>>1466343
>Democrats extrajudicially kill American citizens.
Where do you get this shit?
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>>1466346
I agree, MAGA’s awful. You gotta understand that some of them actually do believe this shit, though. It’s not all grifters, yes-men, and other people with no integrity whatsoever.
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>>1466352
Oh-o-oh, ohohohohohohohohohohoho!
Did you just see that sick reversal there?
HO-LEE-SHIT.
I mean you're so right. These Republicans have been engaging in ridiculous politics for nearly a decade. They've framed completely normal events as suspicious actions.
They've made up knowingly false claims about collusion with other countries.
They've made up false terrorism by the president and had prime time hearings broadcast on TV.
They've abused the law and made themselves look absolutely nuts.
They've lied about literally everything.
Man, these "MAGAs" are so terrible.
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>>1466343
It was collateral damage when the dem did it. Trump doesn't have that excuse.
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>>1466352
>It’s not all grifters, yes-men, and other people with no integrity whatsoever
You're right, there's a whole spectrum of evil people who support Trump, from satanists to child rapists. He's the unifying symbol for all things bad.
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>>1466354
Where do you people get this shit from?
(as if it isn't FoxNews, Sidney Powell and mypillowman)
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>>1466356
I'm going to need to see the evidence.
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>>1466359
I've been watching.
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>>1466360
Go ahead and type "obama collateral damage" into ChatGPT
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>>1466364
But my claim is that these fishermen are simple collateral damage as well. How does using chat gpt to ask about Obama do anything for me?
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>>1466366
no your claim isn't. do you even know what you're posting or are you just following a flowchart, shill
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>>1466366
I don't think you know what the term means.
>Unintended injury or damage to people or objects not serving as lawful military targets.
When Obama did it the civilians who died weren't mean as the targets. When Trump did it they were meant as the targets. See the difference?
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>>1466367
My claim is that the US military was fishing nearby with missiles and accidentally hit a fishingboat.
>>1466369
Flowchart? I'm mostly shitposting my stupid lies now. No one else is even making the claim these are legitimately fishing boats.
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>>1466347
He's bitching about Obama droning
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki
for being a high ranking member of fucking al-Qaeda, a group we were at war with.

Dude also probably hates Lincoln for the War of Northern Aggression.
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>>1466070
Why not take them alive for questioning?
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>>1466373
Actually I was talking about democrats importing violent migrants and then calling everybody who disagrees with unlimited immigration a racist.
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>>1466137
The beautiful thing is, US created those laws to protect US interest. And these idiots still won’t follow it
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>>1466376
you're just mindlessly repeating every shill talking point you have and refusing to elaborate, actually
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>>1466372
>No one else is even making the claim these are legitimately fishing boats.
How can you so brazenly lie about it when the proof they were fishing boats has already been posted ITT?
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>>1466379
Sure, sure.
The reason you're saying fishing boats is because the law states:
>Under the 1982 United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea (UNCLOS), all states enjoy freedom of navigation and overflight on the high seas, which lie beyond any nation’s control. Ships there fall under the jurisdiction of the country whose flag they fly, except when involved in piracy or other illegal acts.
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>>1466383
nta, what site are you getting your shill facts from?
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>>1466330
>You’re far too glib and mocking about these people getting killed for me to believe you.
Where am I doing that?
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>>1466330
>I don’t deny that’s become a loosely used term, but it’s still an objective fact that it fits Trump.
Ah yes, the zionist nazi. Totally believable.
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>>1466385
Experts.com
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>>1466383
The reason I'm saying fishing boats is because Trump has already paid reparations to Columbia for the dead fishermen he killed, which were not even Venezuelan.
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>>1466388
It is believable. He unironically retweets quotes from Mussolini.
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>>1466401
Mussolini used the word "from" also, FASCIST.
Thought no one would notice, huh?
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>>1466401
NTA, he does that shit to troll retards like you that actually fall for it. When he jokes about dropping the N bomb and how it means nuclear, when he talks aboot (pun intended) Canada becoming the 51st state, when he floats the idea of running for a third term. He knows the press will go nuts running those stories.
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>>1466401
>It is believable.
He's circlejerking over liberal democracy and still refuses to see shit like the Somali fraud in Minnesota as anything other than a cultural issue. He isn't a fascist at all.

Wake me up when he starts talking about Americans being spiritually connected to the land. Until then, I sleep.
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>>1466408
I googled it for you.
It was an absolutely benign quote.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-35682844
The tweet, created by a parody account and including Mr Trump's handle, read: "It is better to live one day as a lion than 100 years as a sheep."

Asked about the tweet in a TV interview, Mr Trump said he wanted "to be associated with interesting quotes".

"Mussolini was Mussolini... What difference does it make?" Mr Trump said when asked about the retweet on NBC's Meet The Press programme. "It got your attention, didn't it?"

That's why the faggot stated "He unironically retweets quotes from Mussolini" without expanding on what the quote was.
This is the 10 years of horeshit that makes me never want to vote Democrat ever again.
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>>1466412
>unironically defending Trump's mussolini quotes
This is why democrats aren't going to lose an election for the next 20 years.
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>>1466401
apparently you really grinded some gears with this post
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>>1466414
Yeah, I just hope enough people are paying attention to your bull.
I know they aren't though, so it'll work.
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>>1466416
Maybe it isn't actually bull and you're wrong to try to handwave it away.
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>>1466417
Tell me, faggot, how does that quote show support, as you've implied by mentioning it without context, for Mussolini?
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>>1466412
>"It got your attention, didn't it?"
And I called it. Not that this anon >>1466414 is paying attention.
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>>1466422
>you need to care about semantic distractions instead of obvious war crimes
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>>1466138
>turns out you can just kill fishermen and pretend they're drug runners
FTFY
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>>1466420
You keep asking these basic questions you should be asking ChatGPT instead of wasting everyone's time here.
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>>1466192
>Fishermen use speedboats

They do not.

>and your proof of "dumping bails" doesn't exist.

There are videos of the drug runners dumping bails of coke once they realize they've been spotted.
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This is what I voted for. We need to nuke Venezuela. And if Canada or Mexico gets uppity about it, drop a warhead on them too. The world will FEAR and RESPECT us again. They will NEVER laugh at America ever again.



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