welp, it's over

>>1468246
Yeah no shit. This economy is so bad the admin refuses to allow reports on it; even the fucking inflation report that was supposedly better than expected had literally every metric other than gas and cars cut out. Trump's economic policy is an objective failure and he's got too much ego to ever admit he fucked up.

>>1468250
The economy is fine or at least better than last time a Democrat fucked it up completely.

>>1468249
Yup. Why else would gold and silver be mooning? The fedbux are loosing their value by the second.

>>1468256
>Please ignore the increasing food lines, inflation, and loss of jobs
>The economy is fine! Here, our chart where we cut out 90% of the metrics says so

>>1468256
>>1468250
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/gdp-growth
>The US economy expanded an annualized 3.8% in Q2 2025, much higher than 3.3% in the second estimate, and marking the strongest performance since Q3 2023. The stronger-than-anticipated figure primarily reflected an upward revision to consumer spending
Trump's economy is red hot right now according to the facts, despite what the TDS turds want you to believe

>>1468264
Funny how everyone is complaining then. Do you not recognize a K-Shaped economy when you see it?

>>1468264
Do you seriously think wealthmanagement.com is made up of "TDS turds"?

>>1468266
You really don't understand the English language do you?
I mean, this is like elementary school level English reading comprehension you fucked up

>>1468278
monkey see monkey do eh shill

>>1468265
Don't assume these people can even understand K-Mart, let alone a K-shaped economy. These are the types that cheered for "trickle down" when the term was originally meant as an insult.

>>1468256
No it isn't.

>>1468263
Yeah funny how that works. They omit all the important stuff for ordinary Americans and only include the awesome expensive assets the billionaire class cares about.

>>1468278
NTA but to be fair, this article is reporting that 65% of advisors do not thing the economy is heading tor a negative turn (back in November). Suspiciously enough they also started these surveys January 2024.
>>1468263
>Food lines
I haven't seen this, but the poors are likely still reeling from Democrats shutting down the government.
>>1468264
I know, they so badly want a recession it's disgusting. I hope voters can see through this shit, but unfortunately most voters are morons. It wasn't too long ago Biden made fastfood and most groceries double in price so people voted for Trump en masse. Hopefully they don't forget that pain.

>>1468328
No one wants a recession. The public wants the administration to acknowledge that there is a recession. They change the measures so they can say "everything's great look at the stock market."

Things suck for the majority of the public. Freight shipments are down for consecutive months. Things are bad and getting worse.

Instead we have billionaire sycophants lying about the economy, while the average America is struggling to survive.

And financial advisors are not rosey on the future. The article points out that in the last 6 months their fears of a recession have GROWN.

>>1468337
>No one wants a recession.
Yet Democrats are hoping there's a recession so they can win the midterms, interesting.
More interesting is that Biden's recession and inflation-a-thon was barely even mentioned. And Democrats were so out of touch they got fucking wiped and pissed on like toilet paper.

Not to mention the current Democrat is literally muckraking and saying, "Vote for us because we aren't Trump!" as it has been for the last decade.
What do Democrats even have to run on? Promising to shut down the government and ensure their voter can't get food stamps?
Great tactic. Democrats are lucky the media covers for them (which a rationally minded leftist scumbag would find odd) or they'd likely be drawn and quartered by their own by now.

>>1468345
>What do Democrats even have to run on? Promising to shut down the government and ensure their voter can't get food stamps?
How about the healthcare price spike that's about to happen, you know, the one that the shutdown happened because of? Because the Republicans WANTED it to happen?

Nice spin lmao. Repubs are fucked.

>>1468345
god you're esl

>>1468278
Your damage control is shit and you should give up and go back to twitter.

>>1468362
Amen to that.

They refuse to acknowledge the recession because they want a recession so they can buy up bankrupt peoples homes for pennies on the dollar.

Isn't that what started the Spanish Inquisition? (Some group of greedy people bought up property at fire sale prices after bankrupting the populace and the populace got upset about that.)

>>1468368
jews pooped your pants?

>>1468370
What?

>>1468375
He can't dispute the article so he's literally shitposting.

>>1468354
>How about the healthcare price spike that's about to happen, you know, the one that the shutdown happened because of? Because the Republicans WANTED it to happen?
The spike that didn't happen? Oh yeah, it didn't happen. The new pricing was actually available in October and the cost increases were marginal, as they tend to be year over year. Except for those making 201-400% of the FPL.
People within the 138%-200% saw little changes.

Turns out, Democrats love to blow hot air and piss vitrol.
And the most recent good changes to US healthcare came from the Big Beautiful Bill actually.

>>1468399
esl

>>1468399
Hey, retard. Those subsidies they wanted to extend run out at the end of the year. It hasn't happened yet.

>>1468404
Hey retard, you know what APTC stands for?
Do you know when the deadline to enroll in ACA begins and ends?
Do you know the first fucking thing about this subject?
No. And that's why you got wagged again.

>>1468407
god your life is humiliating

>>1468407
Yeah anon all of that doesn't change the fact the subsidiaries expire on the 31st and insurance will spike after that.

>>1468250
>More Drumpf Derangement Syndrome
Look Anon. You want everyone to vote Democrat so you can get your healthcare back? Show us a Democrat cantidate who will ban all the browns from the country and take a hard-line stance on China and other foreign profiteering and we'll happily consider it. Having an anti-brown cantidate is the most important thing, the only important thing. Like it or not, no matter who's in office, we're in for a century of the economy going downward for everybody, no matter what anyone does or what's on paper. This is the bust part of the cycle. Simple as.

>>1468412
>we
LOL. anon, nobody is taking you seriously, have you still not noticed

>>1468411
No they don't. We've had the 2026 pricing since November 1.
APTC is and ADVANCE Premium Tax Credit. Meaning it's paid monthly at the start of the year. New APTC amounts were listed without the 'enhanced PTCs'.
So, no. You're a fucking idiot that got wagged hella hard.

>>1468415
https://www.kff.org/quick-take/there-is-no-drop-dead-date-for-an-aca-tax-credit-extension-but-coverage-losses-will-mount-as-the-clock-ticks/

A discharge petition in the House paves the way for a vote on a three-year extension of the Affordable Care Act’s enhanced premium tax credits, which expire on December 31.

It’s unclear what a successful vote in the House would mean in the Senate, where a similar extension recently received 51 votes, short of the 60 necessary to pass. And disagreements over adding further restrictions to abortion coverage remain. But a House vote to extend ACA tax credits could put political pressure on senators or further open the door to potential bipartisan compromises. And President Trump is, as always, a wildcard.

While the enhanced ACA premium tax credits expire at the end of this year, there is no absolute drop-dead date for extending them. ACA enrollees would welcome premium relief whenever it comes.

The ACA premium subsidies are refundable tax credits, which are calculated on an annual basis. So, an extension could happen even after the deadline to sign up for coverage and be made retroactive to January 1. Open enrollment could also be extended to allow people time to change their plans or allow new people to sign up. Enrollees could adjust their advance tax credits or receive a refund when they file their taxes.

While the Trump administration has cut ACA navigator funding by 90%, insurance brokers would play an important role in providing outreach to enrollees and potential enrollees.

Logistically, state and federal ACA Marketplaces could adjust their systems quickly for a clean extension of the enhanced tax credits. That’s what happened in 2021, when the enhanced tax credits were created by legislation enacted in March. Any changes to the ACA tax credits mid-year would complicate the logistics and slow down the reopening of enrollment and the premium relief.

>ban all the browns from the country
>even Republicans are refusing to listen to that which is of a color not exactly like them: orange
And when those in the Senate with '(R)' after their name are leaving the stinking ship that is USS Trump, what makes you think that they'll listen to your wrong opinions little /pol/tard? Because that's what you are, subhuman.
Show me a Republican who'll deny inferior subhuman rightards of their rights and I'll listen to them. Oh yes, that's right: people already are. Thy're now never-Trumpers: and will never be inferior subhumans such as you: discriminating against those not exactly like you, except discriminating against the likes of you. But then, why should you care about what happens to inferior subhuman rightards in America:
>foreign
>cantidate
When it's obvious you aren't American.

>>1468415
Yeah anon none of this is how it works. The tax credits don't exist past the 31st. Price technically stays the same, but the amount each person has to PAY goes up because the tax credits aren't there anymore. Meaning you go from say, paying $500 of a $1000 policy, to all $1000.

>>1468417
Burp.
https://www.kff.org/interactive/calculator-aca-enhanced-premium-tax-credit/
Fard.
https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/advanced-premium-tax-credit/
Shiddin'
>Anon don't know shid, so he farded this crap outta he ass ho.
>Anon fails to notice the "ENHANCED" and thinks all PTCs are ending.
>Anon got wagged hella hard by pros and will never recover.
lol. lel even.

>>1468419
No dickface. You're wrong and you made that up off the cuff. And you're feeding that shit to me, an insurance broker.

>>1468419
i think he's too busy being a weird faggot to listen

>>1468425
>i'm not a shill, i'm an insurance broker
LMAO

This anon posted it without knowing what he was posting. :>>1468426
>A discharge petition in the House paves the way for a vote on a three-year extension of the Affordable Care Act’s enhanced premium tax credits, which expire on December 31.
>It’s unclear what a successful vote in the House would mean in the Senate, where a similar extension recently received 51 votes, short of the 60 necessary to pass. And disagreements over adding further restrictions to abortion coverage remain. But a House vote to extend ACA tax credits could put political pressure on senators or further open the door to potential bipartisan compromises. And President Trump is, as always, a wildcard.
>While the enhanced ACA premium tax credits expire at the end of this year, there is no absolute drop-dead date for extending them. ACA enrollees would welcome premium relief whenever it comes.
>The ACA premium subsidies are refundable tax credits, which are calculated on an annual basis. So, an extension could happen even after the deadline to sign up for coverage and be made retroactive to January 1. Open enrollment could also be extended to allow people time to change their plans or allow new people to sign up. Enrollees could adjust their advance tax credits or receive a refund when they file their taxes.
This means the ENHANCED portion ends and if renewed later it would be refunded on one's tax return.
Notice "ENHANCED".
If you want to see the changes for 2026 go here
https://www.kff.org/interactive/calculator-aca-enhanced-premium-tax-credit/ (healthcare.gov is a better place way more accurate).

Hopefully you enjoyed getting wagged like Democrat slaves again.

>>1468431
you sure are a desperate shill

>>1468432
>Please speak to me!
Nah, you've already been proven wrong, again.

>I'm an attention whore shill that desperately needs to justify my sad existence in /news/!
But enough about 1468434

>>1468426
The hilarious part is he's resorted to posting the same KFF source that proved him wrong.

>>1468436
Quiet, slave.

>>1468443
No, he funny thing is that proved me right, and you don't even know why even after I explained it.

>>1468443
he's an attention starved faggot, that's for sure

>>1468446
Oh but Anon he's larping as an "insurance broker" today so that means he won the argument. KEK

That which is a slave to his need to be an attention whore in /news/ is also a hypocrite in thinking he has the right to tell others to be 'quiet'. Certainly when called out on this fact
1468444's nerve status: touched.

>>1468443
Not the brightest bulb, is he?

Sales are down on online sales from what I'm hearing. Looking very bleek!

>>1468314
NTA, yes it is. Let me know when gas prices get over $5/gallon under Trump.

Go ahead I'll wait.

>>1468466
let us know when you have a real job faggot shill

>>1468246
Isn't this shit based on Christmas tree sales?

The eternal spectre of the economy, the plastic tree in the shed.

>>1468466
>Guys look, gas is cheap!
>pay no attention to the price of everything else
You know we can see when you redact the price of literally everything else from the inflation report, right?

>>1468418
>Aren't American
>Achievement Unlocked: Way to Post Like A Shitskin, Shitskin!

>>1468480
you're talking to a retard who refuses to see that, under trump, there are now thousands of underground criminals armed with WMDs capable of killing millions of Americans and he's done absolutely nothing about it

>>1468480
>pay no attention to the price of everything else
Like groceries? Another thing that cost more under Biden, that dems tried to gaslight everyone about.
>No the economy is going great! You just don't understand how inflation works.
>Also it's bad because Trump/COVID/Russia/insert excuse here.

>It's obvious you aren't American
Even Stevie Wonder can see that shills such as 1468412 aren't
>anti-brown
>Shitskin
QED.

>>1468505
Groceries cost 10% more today than under Biden but thanks for proving you aren't American.
https://files.catbox.moe/ebi1tz.png

>>1468510
I'm pretty sure your cropped image is missing something that you cropped out.

>>1468512
Does the graph increase during 2025 or not?

>>1468513
Source?

>>1468515
>>1468510

We've had three president who have doubled the national debt during their terms: Reagan, Dubya, and Trump.

>>1468530
Look up the Two Santa Clause theory. Every Republican has done it to intentionally explode the debt to cripple the incoming democratic president.

>>1468528
Yes anon... Now where did that image come from?

I'm too lazy to draw it, but just imagine I posted a catbox image of a line graph showing how many black cocks your dad sucks on a monthly basis. Source: just trust me.

>>1468531
>The economy is great!
>Also the economy sucks, but it's Trump's fault!

> Consumer confidence slides in December to lowest level since US tariffs rolled out in April

Dec 23, 2025

Consumers confidence in the economy was shaken in December as Americans grow anxious about high prices and the impact of President Donald Trump’s sweeping tariffs.

The Conference Board said Tuesday that its consumer confidence index fell 3.8 points in December. Consumers’ assessments of their current economic situation tumbled 9.5 points. 20.8% of consumers said jobs were “hard to get,” up from 20.1% last month.

Write-in responses to the survey showed that prices and inflation remained consumers’ biggest concern, along with tariffs, despite repeated claims by President Trump that inflation is a hoax.

The December survey showed that respondents’ views of their family’s current financial situation sank into negative territory for the first time in close to four years.

Perceptions of the job market also declined this month. The country’s labor market has been stuck in a “low hire, low fire” state, economists say. Since March, job creation has fallen to an average 35,000 a month, compared to 71,000 in the year ended in March. Fed Chair Jerome Powell said recently that he suspects those numbers will be revised even lower.

A measure of Americans’ short-term expectations for their income, business conditions and the job market remained stable at 70.7, but still well below 80, the marker that can signal a recession ahead. It was the 11th consecutive month that reading has come in under 80.

https://www.king5.com/article/syndication/associatedpress/consumer-confidence-slides-in-december-to-lowest-level-since-us-tariffs-rolled-out-in-april/616-f7f766b3-0dc6-49aa-9b30-b0aadc5483b0

>>1468542
The GDP went up because billionaires are building data centers to operate their ai bubble. The masses are still feeling the recession.

Trump failed.

Trumps Recession™ is underway. He shouldn't have hired a fat, worthless woman (Susie Wiles) to run his admin. Shes an alcoholic loser.

>>1468531
GOP are the worst. They doubled the national debt to give their buddies billions.

>>1468426
Must be