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https://www.startribune.com/she-was-an-amazing-human-being-mother-identifies-woman-shot-killed-by-ice-agent/601559922

The woman shot and killed by an ICE agent in Minneapolis on Wednesday, Jan. 7, was identified by her mother as 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good.

Good died just a few blocks from where she lived. A woman who answered the door at Good’s home declined to comment.

Donna Ganger told the Minnesota Star Tribune that her daughter lived in the Twin Cities with her partner. Ganger said the family was notified of the death late Wednesday morning.

"That’s so stupid" that she was killed, Ganger said, after learning some of the circumstances from a reporter. "She was probably terrified."

Ganger said her daughter is "not part of anything like that at all," referring to protesters challenging ICE agents.

"Renee was one of the kindest people I’ve ever known," she said. "She was extremely compassionate. She’s taken care of people all her life. She was loving, forgiving and affectionate. She was an amazing human being."

An Instagram account that appears to belong to Good describes her as a "poet and writer and wife and mom and shitty guitar strummer from Colorado; experiencing Minneapolis, MN."

Good had previously been married to Timmy Ray Macklin Jr., who died in 2023 at the age of 36. Macklin’s father, Timmy Ray Macklin Sr., was shocked to hear the news that Good had been shot and killed.

He said Good and his son had a child who is now 6 years old.

"There’s nobody else in his life," Macklin said. "I’ll drive. I’ll fly. To come and get my grandchild."

Macklin added that Good had two additional children who he believed lived with her extended family.
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In 2020 while studying creative writing at Old Dominion University in Norfolk, Va., Good was awarded the school’s undergraduate poetry prize for "On Learning to Dissect Fetal Pigs."

A mini-bio on the English Department’s Facebook page said Good, known then as Renee Macklin, was from Colorado Springs and hosted a podcast with her husband, Tim Macklin.

"When she is not writing, reading or talking about writing," the post continued, "she has movie marathons and makes messy art."

Megan Kocher posted on social media that "I met Renee and her wife just a few weeks ago. She fed me tea and cookies at her house while we talked about school stuff."

Kocher described Good as "such a warm and loving mother. This is tragic beyond words." She declined to comment further.

Speakers at an evening vigil disclosed few details of Good’s life but were resolute in honoring her as a good neighbor who was protecting others.

"She was peaceful, she did the right thing," said Jaylani Hussein, the executive director of CAIR-MN. "She died because she loved her neighbors."

A speaker who only identified himself as Noah rejected Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem’s portrayal of Good as a domestic terrorist and said instead that Good was present on Portland Avenue on Wednesday "to watch the terrorists."

As they walked around the block, hundreds of people chanted Good’s name.

Mary Radford, 27, was just getting home from work around 7 p.m. and struggled to find a place to park as hundreds of people descended on the neighborhood to mourn Good.
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Radford lived next to Good and saw her and her young son often when walking their Australian shepherd Hazelnut, who she said gets excited every time they walk by Good’s house.

"It’s a beautiful family. They have a son. He’s very sweet. He loves our dog. He always has to go run up and pet and play with her," she said. "They’re always outside playing."

The Goods moved in pretty recently, Radford said, but they had "wonderful conversations."

"We’re gonna miss seeing them — forever," she said. "It is so painful to think about how he’s gonna fare in his life. And I just can’t even imagine what that family is going through."

Radford said through tears that Good was a good neighbor, though their time as neighbors was tragically brief.

"I wish I could have known her more."
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>>1473581
Mentally ill bitch is burning in hell right now
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A murdered woman is in Heaven, and 1473615 will burn in Hell.
1473615 will be in good company there, as Charlie Kirk is being eternally throatfucked by demons: and he can still vocalize his perpetual torment.
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It's crazy that people are now saying the woman who was killed was committing a "TERRORISTIC ACT" but not the guys pulling her out of the car. Are we just going to allow ICE to go around killing people if they don't follow orders? Can an ICE agent demand you suck their cock and then kill you if you refuse?
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>>1473626
To be fair the only people saying that are the cultists, Fox News hosts, and Kristi Noem.
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>>1473581
i think people would care more if libs hadn't spend the last several months celebrating the murders of their ideological opponents. all of this comes across as very fake and performative
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I know people would care more about those who can't think, if the likes of 1473630 hadn't been gleefully enjoying what their orange god had been doing to their ideological opponents last year.
1473630 comes across as very hypocritical and projecting.
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>>1473630
>Sorry I don't care that ICE executed a mother in the street because someone made posts saying Charlie Kirk wasn't a good person
I mean I would care if a "law enforcement" entity started killing people for no reason then framing them as terrorists just to justify what is at minimum excessive force.
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>>1473626
Yes. Just follow your orders like a good citizen and the police won’t shoot you
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>>1473634
it's unfortunate that she was shot, but i'm not going to feel bad for her. she was a far-left agitator and put herself in that situation
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It's unfortunate that 1473636 is going to Hell for eternity, but I'm not going to feel bad for him. He was a far-right agitator and put himself in that situation. Matthew 7:1.
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>>1473636
>She was a far-left agitator!
>See, she forced them to break their own rules for proper use of force and murder her in the street
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schizo is still melting down
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>>1473626
Can ICE agents arrest people? Yes or no.
>watch how many retards on /news/ fail this simple test
>>
1473644 should stop referring to himself in the third person
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>>1473636
>everyone I don't like is a far left agitator
Why stop there? Why not irrationally call her a domestic terrorist?
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>>1473626
Unless they're entering a military base/installation, thus committing an illegal act, can military police arrest civilians?
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>>1473642
i don't condone the shooting. i also don't condone far-left agitators impeding federal officers.
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>>1473634
>"law enforcement"
I don't know why you put that in quotes.
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>>1473652
Spinning it like she was a far left agitator seems to be the latest desperate disinfo tactic since calling her a terrorist didn't work.
btw her own mother said she wasn't a protester.
>Ganger said her daughter is "not part of anything like that at all," referring to protesters challenging ICE agents.
>>
>Charlottesville: 2017
I condone the arrest of James Alex Fields Jr. I also condemn a far right agitator committing an act of murder, thus condone said arrest, trial, conviction & 417 year life sentence of a far right agitator.
>>
>"I can't drive"
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>>1473656
there's eyewitness testimony that she was involved in anti-ice direct action on the day she was shot.
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>>1473656
>btw her own mother said she wasn't a protester.
Good for her. She was still blocking the road and refused to comply with instructions, like get out of the car. Now does ICE have the authority to tell her that? Yes or no.
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>>1473664
>Well guys, she didn't listen when a bunch of masked armed man ran up and told her to get out of her car
>Worthy of instant execution
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>>1473665
>a bunch of masked armed men that had "police" velcro on their vests
Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no.
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>>1473666
I can also get a "Police" velcro on my tactical gear

Does ICE have the authority to execute people for not immediately obeying them? Yes or no.
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>>1473664
Refusal to comply should always be grounds for summary execution. ICE officers are the primary victims in government brutality
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>>1473668
we can stop pretending she didn't instigate the situation
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>>1473669
>Hmmmm, I love boot leather
Honestly the fact the government is echoing this is going to turn those protestors into a lynch mob.
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>>1473670
>Guys she insitgated the situation by being on the same street and "blocking" it
You do realize not only was there clearly enough room for them to go around her, but one of the ICE cars is BEHIND HER doing the same fucking thing?
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>>1473674
you do realize the only reason she was there at all was to conduct anti-ice direct action?
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>>1473668
I'll answer your question when you answer mine (you won't).

Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no.
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>>1473682
She lives a few blocks away you retard.
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>>1473688
that doesn't refute anything i said.
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>Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no
>Does ICE have the authority
They won't after Trump is out of the White House, thus Total MAGA Death. What happened to collaborators in French towns in WWII just after D-Day. The people had more than all the authority in the world to get their revenge on those that thought they had 'authority' over those who didn't think like them: till one sceond after their 'authority-givers' fucked off after seeing Sherman tanks & Jeeps in the distance.
What happened to those subhuman collaborators. What'll happen to subhuman ICE agents when they no longer have 'authoritah' over others. Thus the answer to your question is no. Certainly in the near future. Do those wronged - or so much as looked at funny - by ICE have the right to get righteous revenge against rightards that thought they had the right to be above others?
Think about the future, MAGAts.
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>>1473692
Blah blah blah can't answer the question.
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>>1473664
ICE simultaneously told her to drive away. It's Simon Says all over again.
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>>1473694
Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no.
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>>1473696
Does following one order and not another given at the same time deserve execution?
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>>1473697
Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no.
>>
>I'll answer your question when you answer mine (you won't)
1473693
>can't answer the question
>>1473692
>Thus the answer to your question is no
>the question is answered
Blah blah blah, 1473693 can't answer the question because saying 'no' (he daren't due to being a cornered pussy) would destroy his wrong opinions
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>>1473700
They ignore that it would be illegal in any case to shoot the woman in the face multiple times even if she was being detained because it ruins their narrative
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This bot is downright antique, I'm very disappointed in your program, Ranjesh. Put your supervisor on, he needs to see this sloppy work.
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>>1473703
lol keep coping, as you refuse to answer a simple question because it shreds your narrative. This is why /news/ is dogshit.
>>
This ice cop's mask slipped down and he's going to be identified and derek chauvined
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>>1473705
1. you're retarded
2. I'm not that anon
perfect losing streak, faggot
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>>1473581
>FBI actively refusing to work with Minnesotan police on this
He's so innocent they have to stop the police from investigating him at all, even though every officer-involved shooting literally requires it.

Yeah they know it was a murder. And considering past ICE retardation, they're probably scrambling to cover up the murderer bragging about it to his buddies on their group chat.
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>>1473707
>I'm not that anon
And yet you won't answer it either. Here I'll prove it:

Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no.

>perfect losing streak
>from the people losing because a simple question has them stun-locked
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>>1473709
They didn't do any detaining retard. They moved straight to shooting her then blocked medics from getting to her.
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>>1473710
Called it. Another victory point to me. You can't answer it either.

Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no.
>>
>lol keep coping
By >>1473705 refusing to answer a simple question with a yes or no because it obliterates not only his narrative. This is why rightards are dogshit.
He can't cope with the question already answered in >>1473692. The answer being no.
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>>1473710
whether it was legal to detain her or not is irrelevant
If someone steals a candy bar from a corner store, police can detain them.
What they can't do is murder them if they leave
Even ICE's internal procedures say the woman should have been let go
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>>1473712
>refusing to answer a simple question with a yes or no because it obliterates not only his narrative.
I'll answer it when you answer mine (you can't).

Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no.
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>>1473715
Is this question from your shill talking points?
Yes or no.
Are you retarded enough to believe its relevant?
Yes
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>>1473717
lol you can't answer it, can you? It must suck to be in your position right now. It's not hard, a simple yes or no question.

Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no.
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>>1473711
Do they have the authority to detain people? Yes, depending on circumstance

Did they have authority to blow this woman's brains out? No. And they especially didn't have authority to block medics after the fact AND actively lie about how one of their own needed to go to the hospital even though you can clearly see he didn't get hit.
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>>1473715
Yes.
Now, you answer, does ICE have the authority to issue conflicting orders and then shoot when they can't all be followed simultaneously?
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>Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no
No.
>I'll answer your question when you answer mine (you won't)
He daren't. Eternal L to the rightard because he refuses to answer. Due to the fact he never had a question in the first place.
Those who aren't rightards eternallw in though, because the answer to the rightard's question is no.
'No': a two letter word that destroys his narrative & opinions. Will normal sane humans allow the wrong opinions of subhuman rightards to exist in their superior minds? No.
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>>1473720
Is this question from your shill talking points?
Yes or no.
Are you retarded enough to believe its relevant?
Yes

C'mon, can't you answer?
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>>1473720
>Does ICE have the authority to detain or arrest people? Yes or no
No
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>>1473722
>Yes.
Holy shit, someone on /news/ has a bare shred of integrity? And to think it only took me asking 20 times. Hey, congratulations anon. That took a lot of courage on your part to answer that. Very stunning and brave.

>Now, you answer, does ICE have the authority to issue conflicting orders and then shoot when they can't all be followed simultaneously?
No but that's not what happened. I know time is a difficult concept to understand but they told her to do one thing, she refused, so they told her another think. Don't even try to pretend that she was complying with the order to get out of here, she was clearly trying to get away after they told her to 'get out of the fucking car'. At that point she realized how serious this was and tried to get away.
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>>1473725
Oh I'm sorry, that's the wrong answer. Go back and study https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1357
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>>1473726
Hey can you address the fact they had no authority to shoot her btw? Even their official procedure notes this isn't a cause for immediate lethal force, and EVERY law enforcement branch acknowledges that after an officer involved shooting, you aren't allowed to block medics from getting to the person who was shot.
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>>1473726
>>1473727
Is this question from your shill talking points?
Yes or no.
Are you retarded enough to believe its relevant?
Yes
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>>1473726
>so they told her another think
*thing. Derp.
>>
>someone on /news/ has a bare shred of integrity?
And it's not >>1473726
Will people have the right to get their revenge on ICE agents when the latter no longer have the right to have any 'authority'? Yes or No.
>>
>>1473727
What felony or offense did she commit? "Blocking the road" doesn't count when ICE boxed her in AND there was enough room to go around her with no issue.
>b-but it was a one-way!
So she couldn't have turned around either.
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>>1473728
Its legal for the police to shoot like that in their country
no one linked them the part that confirms its illegal to do that in America
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>>1473722
It's not even a relevant question whether they have the authority to detain in this situation because they shot a woman under dubious pretext. Anything else muddles the issue
The questions needed to be asked are
>why would an ICE agent step in front of a moving vehicle
>what warnings were given to the victim
>were they justified in blowing her brains out when they could have just arrested her later and not putting the public at risk discharging their firearms
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>>1473727
>Oh I'm sorry, that's the right answer
ftfy
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>>1473728
>Hey can you address the fact they had no authority to shoot her btw?
But that's wrong you fucking retard. Anyone driving a car towards an officer is fair game.
>in before another she didn't do that argument

>Even their official procedure notes this isn't a cause for immediate lethal force
Show me those notes you're talking about.

>and EVERY law enforcement branch acknowledges that after an officer involved shooting, you aren't allowed to block medics from getting to the person who was shot.
Yeah this is absolutely incorrect and fucking hilariously retarded. They're not going to let some random guy into their scene just because they say they're a physician. "Dude just trust me I'm a doctor!" lol no. EMS is on the way, it's their call and not some random on the street.
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>>1473728
Therefor ICE don't have the right to have any authority whatsoever.
After they have their authority removed from them after Trump is removed from the White House, should those ex-ICE agents be denied the right to a peaceful existence, free from those who want to get their revenge on them? Yes or No. My answer is no.
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>>1473736
>its legal for an officer to shoot in a situation completely different from the one we're talking about
>you're not allowed to bring up the shooting was non-justified
lmao

Was the detain question from your shill talking points?
Yes or no.
Just answer the question, faggot
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>>1473732
>What felony or offense did she commit?
First off fleeing detainment. You can't do that. Cops tell you to get out of the car, you get out of the car. Failure to comply and trying to flee the scene is a crime. I know, shocking to you.

>Blocking the road" doesn't count when ICE boxed her in
She wasn't "boxed in" until they had enough and told her to get out of the car. At that point, driving away is no longer an option. She had her chance to leave but wanted to play stupid games. Now she's detained.

>AND there was enough room to go around her with no issue.
So? She's still blocking part of the road. They can tell her to move out of the way.

>So she couldn't have turned around either.
She wasn't supposed to. She was supposed to get out of the way and stop blocking them. She refused, so get out of the car. Only she didn't want to do that and decided to rabbit. Bad decision.
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>>1473739
Are ICE agents actual police officers? Yes or No.
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>>1473738
>>its legal for an officer to shoot in a situation completely different from the one we're talking about
Oh I'm sorry, was there an officer in front of her car when she started driving forward?

Don't make me ask yes or no again.
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>>1473740
>Are ICE agents actual police officers? Yes or No.
Federally, yes. They're 1811. They have the ability to detain and arrest people. I know you don't agree, but 8 U.S. Code § 1357 doesn't give a fuck what you think.
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>>1473741
Your question was answered, can't answer one yourself?

Was the detain question from your shill talking points?
Yes or no.
>>
>>1473744
No. I don't have shill talking points. I have facts about this case.
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>>1473736
>Anyone driving a car towards an officer is fair game.
Sorry, do we have to point out the car literally turning AWAY from them on video again? You seem to have some kind of short term memory loss.

>Show me those notes you're talking about.
ICE and other immigration enforcement are prohibited from shooting at moving vehicles, and as already established, your "she was driving right towards them!" excuse doesn't hold up to scrutiny.
>https://www.fox9.com/news/can-ice-agents-shoot-moving-vehicles-yes-no

>They're not going to let some random guy into their scene just because they say they're a physician. "Dude just trust me I'm a doctor!" lol no. EMS is on the way, it's their call and not some random on the street.
Their scene where they just shot a woman in the head? Are you fucking retarded? There was no immediate threat beyond their murderous asses; they had no right to dismiss any attempts at getting her medical attention.
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>>1473745
So you deviated from your shill talking points, and are getting rolled because you're going off script.
This is why you stick to your shill talking points
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>>1473739
>She should've just gotten out of the way
>By turning around
>Which they blocked her from doing
You're a bootlicker.
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>>1473748
Even the white house knows this is blatantly illegal, which is why they're trying to gaslight everyone that the shooter actually got run over
The murderer is going to be doxxed, and if they don't let themselves be punished for the murder then society will punish them
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>>1473746
>Sorry, do we have to point out the car literally turning AWAY from them on video again? You seem to have some kind of short term memory loss.
And I guess I have to point out again that the cop was not only in front of the car, but was also hit by that car.

>ICE and other immigration enforcement are prohibited from shooting at moving vehicles
>>But the policy includes an exception for when agents feel someone is "threatening deadly force"
i.e. driving right at them. It's amazing how your own source blows you the fuck out.

>Are you fucking retarded?
Are you? Clearly. Hey lets just allow some random fucking person off the street to treat a gunshot wound to the head because they're screaming they're a physician. I don't see ANY legal issues with that. He seems trustworthy!

Incredible.
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>>1473743
>police =/= federal
But do ICE agents have state authority, like Minneapolis police? Do the latter have jurisdiction in a completely different state?
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>>1473747
>and are getting rolled
lmao

>>1473748
>You're a bootlicker.
Aww sorry I follow the law. We can't all be dipshit antifag 'viva la resistance' FIGHT DA POWAH faggots like this cunt was.
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>>1473750
>And I guess I have to point out again that the cop was not only in front of the car, but was also hit by that car.
Not what happened lmao. You get BTFOed by the video clearly showing her trying to avoid hitting them, only for them to keep moving to be in front of the car so they can justify shooting her.

>Clearly. Hey lets just allow some random fucking person off the street to treat a gunshot wound to the head because they're screaming they're a physician. I don't see ANY legal issues with that. He seems trustworthy!
I see the more pressing issue being the murder charges for having gunned down a civilian in cold blood. Also, please point out the part of procedure where police are allowed to let people die.
>>
>if I change all the details of this shooting, its justified
>no, you can't bring up facts
lmao
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>>1473752
>But do ICE agents have state authority, like Minneapolis police? Do the latter have jurisdiction in a completely different state?
This is such a stupid question. Does the FBI need permission from Minnesota to investigate and arrest people? How about the ATF? DEA? Tell me, which federal agencies do you think have the authority to arrest and which don't. And why is that?

I mean it's a waste of time because I already gave the statute earlier, but it'll keep you busy.
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>>1473753
>THAT CAR THAT WAS VISIBLY TURNING AWAY FROM THEM WAS AN IMMEDIATE DANGER!
>BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM
He's so innocent the DOJ needs to actively lie about him being wounded in the hospital to make it seem "justified".
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>>1473754
>Not what happened lmao.
Yes what happened lmao.

>only for them to keep moving to be in front of the car so they can justify shooting her.
Oh so the cop moved to the right (his left) to stay in front of the vehicle now? Really? lol

>I see the more pressing issue being the murder charges for having gunned down a civilian in cold blood.
Assuming there's a murder charge for a clear case of self-defense.
>Also, please point out the part of procedure where police are allowed to let people die.
They called for EMS, that's not letting people die. I know you're really upset because some random person said they were a physician and wasn't allowed to potentially cause more harm than good, but most cops don't let just any jackass onto their scene because they say so.
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>>1473758
butk in amerika, is legal to shoot criminals being detained
trusting me, i being provided irrelevant statute to link
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>>1473758
>hits cop with car
>DURRR SHE WAS TURNING AWAY

Even if - and I'm not saying that's what happened - but even if he wasn't hit by that car, he still has justification to shoot her ass. Even from Minnesota's own laws.

https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/cite/609.066
>Subd. 2.Use of deadly force.
>(2) to effect the arrest or capture, or prevent the escape, of a person whom the peace officer knows or has reasonable grounds to believe has committed or attempted to commit a felony and the officer reasonably believes that the person will cause death or great bodily harm to another person under the threat criteria in clause (1), items (i) to (iii), unless immediately apprehended.
>>
lmao, shill is trying to gaslight herself again
>>
>>1473739
>fleeing detainment
She is not an alien and thus there was no legal reason for her to be detained by immigration agents. The agents had no legal authority to require her to get out of the car, and she was under no obligation to follow an order given without proper legal authority.
>trying to flee the scene is a crime
There was no crime being committed, nor did the agents act with lawful authority to prevent her flight from the non-existent crime scene.

>>1473743
Section 1357(a)(1) and (2) only permits ICE to arrest aliens. (a)(3) only permits ICE to search a vehicle if it's within 25 miles of a border, which Minneapolis is not in. (a)(4) requires a felony "regulating the admission, exclusion, expulsion, or removal of aliens," which was not present at the scene. (a)(5)(A) only applies to "offense against the United States," which means a crime against the government as a whole (treason, sedition, fraud, and the like). (a)(5)(B) requires there to be a "felony cognizable under the laws of the United States," which again, did not exist, because it's not a felony to block the road. It might be a misdemeanor under state law, but ICE agents do not have the legal authority to arrest people over state laws. This is why ICE is supposed to work alongside local police, who do have the authority to arrest people, but that didn't happen here because they decided to go in guns blazing.

You should try reading the law before you go around spouting it as justification for state-sponsored murder.
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>>1473761
>Oh so the cop moved to the right (his left) to stay in front of the vehicle now? Really? lol
Yes.

>Assuming there's a murder charge for a clear case of self-defense.
Lawyers have already looked at this case; those car wheels have ensured he's fucked. You cannot argue self defense against someone actively trying to avoid harming you.

>I know you're really upset because some random person said they were a physician and wasn't allowed to potentially cause more harm than good
More harm than shooting them in the fucking head? Reminder, we have video; their explanation was "I don't care". They let that woman die for fun. Oh, and btw, ICE had their vehicles parked in a way that blocked the ambulance too, so you're fucked on both regards.
>https://www.ems1.com/ambulance-access-delayed-amid-fatal-ice-shooting-response-in-minneapolis-witnesses-say
They blocked the local medic AND the EMS. They deliberately ensured this woman would die to cover their asses.
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>>1473763
>the officer reasonably believes that the person will cause death or great bodily harm
It is not reasonable to believe someone trying to avoid hitting you is going to cause death. We can see her on video trying to avoid hitting them; this defense is invalid.
>>
When another administration is in the White House - that is the diametric opposite to the one right now* - dissolves ICE, will those who were previous ICE agents have the authority to arrest or detain people? Yes or no.
And why shouldn't people have the right to get revenge on those denied the right to continue to be ICE agents? I see no reason why those ex-ICE agents shouldn't get what they deserve for the crime of having wrong opinions. What happened to collaborators in France just after D-Day: they more than got what they fucking deserved for the crime of existing. Think about the future, MAGAts.
May you live in interesting times, rightards.
*- A Republican administration in the White House after 2028? Such a wild fanfiction.
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>>1473765
>She is not an alien
lol fucking hell, here we go again. This shit does not matter. They can still detain people even if they're white.

How is this such a difficult concept? I know most of you are retarded, but fuck me.

>and thus there was no legal reason for her to be detained by immigration agents.
She's blocking the road, she won't get out of the way, so she's being detained. There. Easy peasy.

>The agents had no legal authority to require her to get out of the car, and she was under no obligation to follow an order given without proper legal authority.
>he thinks he doesn't have to obey federal officers
Good luck with that.

>There was no crime being committed
Fleeing from an officer is a felony, even in Minnesota. As soon as they told her to get out of the fucking car, it was game over. When she tried to drive away, she was committing a felony.

Which answers your misquoting of 1357 so I don't have to do a bunch of greentext. ICE has the authority to detain and arrest people, especially when they're committing a crime. Deal with it.
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>>1473756
>Does the FBI need permission from Minnesota to investigate and arrest people? How about the ATF? DEA?
For state laws, yes, they do need permission, because the Founding Fathers of our country acknowledged that the federal government should not and cannot have unlimited police powers. That is why the Constitution specifically states which police powers that the federal government should have under Article 1, and further limits the federal government under the 10th Amendment by reserving all police powers not otherwise defined by the Constitution to the States.
>Tell me, which federal agencies do you think have the authority to arrest and which don't.
For state laws, none of them have the authority to conduct arrests.
>And why is that?
Because the Constitution says so, you fucking retard.
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A bunch of armed masked men in an unmarked vehicle roll up to you, jump out, and tell you to get the fuck out and come with them; you have a split second to decide if they're ICE or just a bunch of kidnapping thugs.

People act like ICE are a bunch of police officers when they don't act like police officers, don't identify themselves as police officers (you know, with a badge), and half the time, don't even look like officers. Like in that vid, they did several things that most police are trained not to do (step in front of an active vehicle, reach inside an occupied vehicle, etc.)

It won't really matter in the end, because the officer will get a pardon, and then half the people on here will hoot and holler about how upset it's making the other half.
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>>1473766
>Yes.
So if this was the case, he would still be in the path of the vehicle as it's moving?

>It is not reasonable to believe someone trying to avoid hitting you is going to cause death.
Except she hit him.
>this defense is invalid.
LOL you're going to be so salty when no charges are brought against him.
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Parking sideways in the middle of the road while her wife sits on the side of the road with her dog and films the confrontation makes it obvious why she was there.

She was shot because she was endangering the life of multiple ICE agents including the one she hit with the front left of her car. Backing, turning and accelerating while she was being detained for interference with law enforcement and being a safety risk. She moved her car after the first vehicle passed in front of her, indicating that she might collide with the second or later vehicle. That is why they stopped and approched her, to at minimum have her vehicle stationary while they passed.

>does ICE have law enforcement powers?
Yes
>can ICE detain US citizens?
Yes, temporarily until they are transfered to local, state or federal police.
>can ICE shoot at a fleeing vehicle
Yes, but only if the vehicle is an imminent threat, such as a fleeing gunman who is likely to continue their violence or yesterday's example where she rammed an ICE agent and is likely to run over the other people surrounding her vehicle.

Play stupid games and win stupid prizes.
>but it is sad and ICE should have shown greater restraint because the injury sustained by the federal agent was slight
Good should have shown restraint by leaving her vehicle in park when ICE confronted her.
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>>1473769
Bro the nicest and politest one of them already got shot in the neck to cheers from the left. That card had already been played.
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>>1473776
>yesterday's example where she rammed an ICE agent and is likely to run over the other people surrounding her vehicle.
What example is this? Its not the shooting from yesterday, we have video showing this isn't the case
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>>1473773
>don't identify themselves as police officers (you know, with a badge)
Only because you freaks would dox them. Remember that whenever there is ANYTHING that ICE or Trump or a conservative does that you think it is bad, it is because you forced us to do it. You are responsible for everything happening. The left has sown the oats and now the bulls have come home to reap the whirlwind!
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https://x.com/nicksortor/status/2008973759097733306
She hit him.
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>>1473772
>For state laws, yes, they do need permission,
Okay can you show me that law that says Minnesota can tell the FBI they can't arrest people?

Because this seems to disagree with you. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/3052

>>1473773
>A bunch of armed masked men in an unmarked vehicle roll up to you, jump out, and tell you to get the fuck out and come with them; you have a split second to decide if they're ICE or just a bunch of kidnapping thugs.
>All of which have "POLICE" marked on their vests
>anon thinks he doesn't have to comply with them
lmao
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1473779
>bulls have come
conservatards love bulls coming, thats for sure
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>>1473781
Where's the badge and identification?
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1473780
>links video showing she didn't hit the cop
>'she hit him'
zogbot angry that others aren't validating their programming, lmao
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>>1473778
I ask you to grab the driver's door of my SUV. I will suddenly back up and drive forward and turn the wheel, but I will not tell you how fast, far or when I will turn.

Are you frightened that I might run over your toes?

Same but stand behind or in front of my car. Do you trust that I will not harm you as I use a lot of throttle and do it in an icy road? I already know you will not see reason.
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>>1473780
I love how all the posts in this link break down the footage even further, slow-motion, frame by frame - and yet /news/ will still insist she didn't hit him with her car even though he went to the hospital afterwards.
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>>1473783
It's literally marked on their vests you freak. I'd post a picture of my asshole if /news/ allowed it. The people on /pol/ who signed onto ICE are doing more good for this country than your kind ever will.
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>>1473783
>Federal police officers do not have a legal obligation to provide their badge and ID when interacting with the public.
There you go.
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>>1473785
>I ask you to grab the driver's door of my SUV
She didn't ask him
Any other irrelevant retardation you want to try?
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>>1473771
>This point doesn't look good for my argument, so I'm going to ignore it and say it does not matter.
But please, don't let me interrupt your french kissing of the boot stomping on the Constitution. I look forward to hearing you sing praises of the unlimited authority of the Federal government as ATF agents bust down your front door to execute a search and seizure of any alleged firearms at your residence. If you're a good boy, maybe they will bust down your door first before shooting your dog.

>>1473781
>for any offense against the United States committed in their presence, or for any felony cognizable under the laws of the United States if they have reasonable grounds to believe that the person to be arrested has committed or is committing such felony.
This is the same language as before, and it still doesn't give the FBI the authority to arrest people under State law. Are you even reading this shit before you post it, or are you just blindly repeating everything that ChatGPT is telling you?
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>>1473789
Not him, it's called a hypothetical.
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>>1473773
>bunch of armed masked men in an unmarked vehicle roll up to you, jump out
The masked men in the vehicles that she was staring at while she spent the last twenty minutes blocking the road? Inadequate time to assess the situation? Adequate time to leave the area or legally park on the side of the road?
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>>1473792
Is it legal for the police to shoot anyone for any reason in your country?
Yes or no
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>>1473790
>muh bootlicker
Already addressed this.

>and it still doesn't give the FBI the authority to arrest people under State law.
Show me the law that says the FBI cannot arrest people in Minnesota if the state says no.
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>>1473789
>She didn't ask him
How would you feel if you did run over an ICE agent this morning?
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>>1473795
Its not illegal to run over an unidentified masked man leveling a weapon at you
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>>1473795
Hungry?
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>>1473797
>it's not illegal to run over a cop
Leftists actually believe this.
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>>1473793
>is it legal for the police to shoot anyone for any reason in your country?
>Yes or no
Yes. There are several reasons that police are allowed to shoot anyone. Most of those reasons are that that person is a threat to the life of others and lethal force is necessary to prevent that imminent harm.
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>>1473783
They do not have to show their badge. Saying they are an officer is enough. Are you retarded enough to think criminals would cosplay as cops? You have a better chance of being hit by lightning. If an armed man with POLICE on his tacvest tells you to get the fuck out of the car, you OBEY. Maybe there is a .001% chance that he is a criminal like retarded leftists say, but there is a .001% chance of you dying every time you drive.

>>1473793
In that situation, definitely. She was a domestic terrorist threat to them and the public. She got was coming.

>>1473787
Fucking clown world that you have people on 4chan cheering on the death of fellows from /pol/. I know tons of /pol/ posters are ICE agents. It makes me happy knowing that good, strong men like them are signing up to protect our Vaterland.
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>>1473800
>>1473801
Its tough living in a third world shithole
Maybe once Trump strokes out you can immigrate to America, its illegal here
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This whole thing reminds me of another time the local chud was on a Fentanyl high and claimed that an agitator was rightfully killed. How did that end again?

>Derek Chauvin, the former Minneapolis police officer convicted of murdering George Floyd in 2021, is currently serving concurrent state and federal sentences totaling around 22.5 years for second-degree murder (state) and 21 years for civil rights violations (federal).
>As of January 2026, he remains incarcerated in a federal prison facility. He survived a serious stabbing attack in November 2023 (22 times by another inmate at FCI Tucson, Arizona), recovered, and was later transferred to a different federal prison (reports indicate Texas or another low/medium-security site for safety reasons).
>His direct appeals have been exhausted and denied
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>>1473801
>hey do not have to show their badge. Saying they are an officer is enough.
No it isn't.
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>>1473804
More like Daniel Shaver. And just like the Shaver incident, the officer will get off.
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>>1473801
>If an armed man with POLICE on his tacvest tells you to get the fuck out of the car, you OBEY.
Or at least freeze and do nothing rather than shift the vehicle into reverse, depress the accelerator, brake, shift to drive and accelerate forward.

In general when an armed person points a weapon at you it is best to choose the options that results in your best chance of survival. If you're being robbed on the street and you have your CC, but you're already staring down a barrel, it may be better to lose the wallet than to attempt to quickdraw against someone who is already aimed and on the trigger.
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>>1473794
The only thing you've addressed so far is the dirt on the toe of the boot. You better put your tongue into it and get into the sole too, that's where the real grime builds up.

>Show me the law that says the FBI cannot arrest people in Minnesota if the state says no.
https://constitution.congress.gov/constitution/amendment-10/
>The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
This requires a bit of critical thinking to understand, which I know is difficult for you, but bear with me. State and Federal laws are separate for a reason, that reason being a whole history lesson in and of itself. The States get to set their own laws and enforce them, and the federal government sets and enforces their own. Unless there is a specific agreement that says otherwise, like if the state police request federal assistance, the federal government is supposed to stay in its own lane and let the state authorities handle a state-level problem. This is one of the core principles upon which our modern system of government is built upon, and your ignorance as to how it functions is disappointing at the very least, and perhaps a sign of bad things to come for our nation as a whole.
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Our lives are in the hands of people with less training than video related:

https://youtu.be/NKmnJgXyZpU
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>>1473809
>fails to understand assimilation
>fails to understand that there are both federal and state laws
>fails to understand that federal agents are allowed to use lethal force to defend their own lives and the lives of others
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>>1473581
If she put the vehicle in park and got out she would be alive.
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>>1473812
>assimilation
You're thinking of the Supremacy clause, which doesn't apply here because there is no federal law against blocking the streets managed by the states, but good attempt.
>there are both federal and state laws
Where is the federal law against blocking streets? For full credit, you will have to provide a citation to the statue that directly addresses the issue. There is no credit for half-answers or conclusory statements ("she was in their way, so she was per se committing a felony").
>federal agents are allowed to use lethal force to defend their own lives and the lives of others
Repeat that to yourself as you slowly bleed out because the FBI agent that shot you in the neck was pretty certain that the phone in your hand kinda looked like a gun.
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>>1473817
She'd be alive if the cop didn't murder her either
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>>1473831
If you die to a cop, that is on you. Your actions, your words, your intent, all of them lead to it. If you are the weaker party, it is on you to adapt yourself to the other party's expectations.
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>that which had wrong opinions - or wouldn't have allowed the vile disease of rightardism to exist in its mind in the first place - is being throatfucked by demons in Hell: but can still vocalize its perpetual torment, was put there by a MAGAt. Kack played its wrong opinion card already
>cheers from the right by their orange god doing things to those not exactly like them, and relishing such with glee
There's nothing wrong with the right getting what they deserve for the crime of having wrong opinions, when they could always have never been rightards in the first place. The last year has proved that boat has sailed already.
Why shouldn't all rightards live in interesting times?
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>>1473843
Rules for me that protect but do not bind. Rules for thee that bind but do not protect. It's been the central tenant of conservatism for about a century now.
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remember the last few years when the right whined about being called fascists
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>>1473842
As our betters we must conduct ourselves appropriately around cops. This may require reading their minds or understanding that if they put a bullet in our heads we are at fault because cops are infallible. Cops can do no wrong and ICE are federal cops so they deserve even more respect. Any disrespect is no different than spitting on the face of our President and should be treated with harshest punishment.
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>>1473842
cops are sometimes murderers just like anyone else with a gun could be
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>>1473819
18 U.S.C.A. § 13
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>>1473734
The vehicle was parked. She was being detained. She gunned it and tried to run them over
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>>1473801
I would absolutely LOVE to hear your opinion about the Ruby Ridge standoff, or the Waco siege.
They were federal officers, so all the residents of the Waco facility should've just come out with their hands up to get arrested right? Because they were quote 'domestic terrorist threats'? And that's all that it takes for you to get firebombed and run over by a Bradley, right? Or the family of Ruby Ridge should've just let the officers kill their son and get arrested right? Because they shot at a federal officer who didn't identify themselves? I can't wait to see what the shill response to this is, because I think it's going to be some Olympic level mental gymnastics
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>>1473876
Exactly, which is why Trump needs to go to jail for paying off the family of a terrorist agitator who got shot in the face
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>>1473903
They simon says'd her while rattling her door handles and pointing guns at her face.
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>>1473581
Looks like the type of person who'd celebrate kirk's death as justified and would try to run over a federal law enforcement agent.
>"She was extremely compassionate. She’s taken care of people all her life. She was loving, forgiving and affectionate. She was an amazing human being."
i've heard people say the same about serial killers all the time by their parents who are also narcissists.
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>>1473876
or and stay with me here its a hard topic to understand. DON"T TRY TO RUN THEM OVER.
I guess that's impossible for leftists who live all their lives not knowing ACTIONS have CONSEQUENCES
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>>1473929
So, the LGBT terrorists that put her up to interfering didn't give her any training is what you're saying?
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>>1473857
if libs cared about legality, they wouldn't be advocating for agitators to impede law enforcement
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>>1473929
Oh yes "back up and drive away" is the precise instructions while a cop is holding your driver door handle.
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>>1473903
>gunned it
Disingenuous is the word of the week isn't it?
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>>1473937
Oh I am in complete agreement. Next time a cop sees a family car rolling towards them at 1mph they need to magdump them lest they get a slight bruising
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>>1473989
lol completely similar and rational comparison.
You're obviously the voice of reason at this point and no posting drunk off your ass on Russian vodka, Ivan.
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>a revolution by agitators against a monarch's laws
'For happily the Government of the United States, which gives to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance, requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens, in giving it on all occasions their effectual support'
-George Washington
It's why the US Constitution was created by those who impeded enforcement of laws.
They who wrote that nation-creating document care more about liberty than rightards today that are against it.
And one of those rightards - 1473954 - will never be an American
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>>1473993
What's the problem? Cops life is in danger he should eliminate the threat. Are you siding with the antifalgbt libs who believe slow moving vehicles are not weapons of mass destruction?
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>>1473995
>Quote-posting
>troon-raging
tL;dr
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>>1473989
>Next time a cop sees a family car rolling towards them at 1mph they need to magdump them lest they get a slight bruising
if this is after they tell them to stop moving the get and get out so they can be arrested. but they continue to drive on anyways then sure i agree.
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>>1473645
ICE agents aren't police, you fucking idiot. You genuine fucking baboon.
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>not one mention of a certain word in the OP article
>and /news/' resident obsessive has to mention it
1474016 is one of two things:
1- is an obsessed creeper
2- wants to fuck those he mentions
tl;dr: he rages about those he 'hates', but loves them
>tL;dr
>L
the projecting 1474016 isn't American
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>>1473686
Fourth amendment, idiot.
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>>1474080
>troon-raging intensifies
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>>1474046
I feel like a lot of prison overcrowding problems could be resolved if we just allowed cops to summarily execute anyone they consider fleeing. Why aren't they do this more often?
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>the raging 1474095's troonery intensifies
>n-no, you're the one raging!
I'm just laughing at you, faggot.
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>>1474102
>V-troon just kicked in, bro
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The raging homo 1474095 1474116 will never beat the troon-fucking allegations.
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>>1474121
>Get in boys, it's trooning time!!!
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Why do you stupid fucking monkeys feel the need to reply to obvious shills?
You cant possibly assume the guy wasting half of the threads post limit on a literal flowchart is legit? We deserve the final fire already
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>>1473581
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>"Renee was one of the kindest people I’ve ever known," she said. "She was extremely compassionate. She’s taken care of people all her life. She was loving, forgiving and affectionate. She was an amazing human being."
Sounds like a person who would protest ICE
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>>1474192
How does not having violent hate for entire groups equivalent to embracing murder? If a non citizen commits murder they should go to jail like a citizen. Every liberal believes that. Doesn’t mean all non citizens are murderers or should be rounded up.

You think a middle age lady committing a traffic violation deserves to be shot in the face in the street without a second thought. One is fascism. One is not using a crime as a recuse for bigotry. Seems pretty different.
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RWers defending law enforcement are so lost
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>>1474213
then why did she get killed by invaders a block away from her own house
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>>1474216
because she tried to kill a fed. pretty simple really
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>>1474217
well shill, at least you don't deny ice is an invading force
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>>1474217
How so?
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>>1474219
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CH_ZAzuFWY
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>>1474218
The only thing they are invading is your sanity and they are using scorched earth tactics.
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I was told that a white woman ignoring orders to desist while threatening cops during an insurrectionist riot wasn't a crime though.
Why are right wing shills telling me it is now?
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>>1474227
What is this supposed to show?
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>>1474242
Why is every post you make a shitpost?
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>>1474237
i bet that sounded cooler in your native language
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>>1474244
It's called irony. He's calling you a hypocrite.
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>>1474244
Cmon, retardsplain to me the difference between Babbit getting rightfully killed and Renee Nicole Good getting murdered.
It should be easy, right?
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>>1474251
do you feel white or american yet esl shill
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>>1474249
Babbitt was unarmed and shot as a first defense.
Renee was armed and shot as a last defense.
Hope that clears things up for you champ
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>>1474253
good job retard, we can all point and laugh at you thanks to you playing your role predictably
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>>1474246
What do you think I did to be called a hypocrite?
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>>1474255
what do you think you'd be doing if you were intelligent enough to have a non-shill job
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>>1474253
So first defenses consist of multiple warnings to stand down, a warning that a shot is coming, then a shot
And last defenses are immediately shooting a driver from the side of a car with no warning
You learn a lot of retarded things from shills!
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People should stop arguing with pro-MAGA ai bots.
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>>1474254
Notice how you can't refute anything I've said.
>>1474259
There was no attempt to detain babbitt before shooting her. Renee was mid-detainment when she fled and attempted to kill a fed who shot her in self-defense.
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>>1474273
>There was no attempt to detain babbitt before shooting her.
Because she was actively attacking where security was holed up.
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>>1474278
How exactly was she "attacking"?
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>>1474284
>Guys she wasn't attacking
>She was just rushing over an broken window over a barricade
Shut up bot.
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>>1474290
So stepping through a doorway is attacking, but flooring your car directly at someone isnt. Very consistent logic
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>>1474295
>Guys who cares if it was a busted window over a visible barricade with officers repeatedly saying to get back or they'll shoot
>But god forbid you try to drive away from ICE thugs
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>>1474297
So in your mind it's justified to shoot someone for disobeying a verbal command? Then I guess you have no issue with what happened to renee.
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>>1474297
Drive over, you mean. Because everybody agrees that hurting duly appointed public employees is wrong.
Right, anon? Isn't that what we learned at J6? RIGHT?
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>>1474305
You have to be driving AT someone to drive OVER them
even shilly ESLs should know that
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>>1474209
>Every liberal believes that.
sure they do that's why for the past decade they've been dehumanizing their political opponent deplatforming them, calling them nazis and now trying to assasinate them.
who are you fooling you're a pathetic hypocrite, you didn't stop the lunatics on your side now they represent you isn't that what you always do with the "far right"
she obstructed justice and tried to mow a federal officer over she deserved it just like you would bigot
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>>1473581
the amount of "hurr she should have complied with the group of people who constantly made the news for brutalizing both illegal and legal citizens" ive been seeing online is actually mind boggling. not just because of how clearly obvious it is that this woman was not trying to hit the fat retard (who ran in front of hair car against procedure), nor because he clearly only fired once on the side of the vehicle with the remaining shots being through the driver window, but because just about every single person who has the credentials has come out to say that wasnt how they were trained and pointing to literal procedure that shows that to be the case. i feel like this hyper politicization of america has done irreversible damage to the point that people can see a 37 year old murdered, leaving behind an orphaned child that she was just dropping off at school, and still have the insane urge to turn this into a "see the leftist evil gays are trying to kill our agents" thing. what the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
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>>1474360
>leaving behind an orphaned child that she was just dropping off at school, and still have the insane urge to turn this into a "see the leftist evil gays are trying to kill our agents" thing. what the actual fuck is wrong with these people?

but charlie kirk was fine though right all the gravedancing was fine? he wasn't even an extremist he was just a religious nut but you were fine with it so why are you surprised now. you didn't stop it then so why do you think anyone gives a fuck now. you should be next no one cares about hypocritical karens like you.
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>>1474360
It doesn't help that instead of a mature "We will be investigating the incident" from the Trump admin, we instead got "SHE WAS A LEFTIST TERRORIST EPICLY TAKEN OUT BY A HERO WHO WAS GREVIOUSLY WOUNDED IN ACTION". Meaning all pretense of fairness is out the window, especially with the FBI straight up removing local authorities from the investigation (which they're likely not even doing at all).
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>>1474360
Found the gay
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>>1474360
>what the actual fuck is wrong with these people?
They’re fascists.
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>>1474363
what's there to investigate its on camera officers told her to stand down she drove away anyways and slammed one of them on the side. If only you cared this much when it came to left win terrorism but its too late for that now.
>>1474360
>boohoo i only care when its someone on my side
>but my political opponents deserve it because they're bigots
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>>1474366
We have three separate angles of the incident and not a single one shows contact. Stop comparing a rogue assassin killing your favorite podcaster to a federal officer murdering someone in broad daylight and then the government declaring he has absolute immunity for it while actively blocking the state from investigating.
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>>1474369
but he has no idea how to make money doing anything other than shilling
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>>1474368
nice dogwhistle
>>1474369
but the post incident grave dancing is the same you didn't care then why should anyone care now. I hope its hypocrites like you next because we've seen what people like YOU think when its someone on the right who gets shot.

also nice lie there was contact on the left side of the car and either way she drove away while under arrest that's a felony and by ur logic she deserves it how does it feel
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>>1474375
why can't you take english classes
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>>1474362
>but charlie kirk
look man, im not even reading the rest of what you had to say. charlie kirk was a retard who openly called for and encouraged political violence "as a joke haha". he reaped what he sowed and i dont feel an ounce of empathy for him or his wife, only his kid that has to grow up with it. so far this woman has shown zero political "extreme" ideals otherwise this corrupt as administration would be parading it around by now. she didnt sow anything to deserve being mag dumped by some worthless shithead who was likely unqualified. these things arent remotely alike.
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>>1474380
gotta love the leftist hypocrisy think of the poor kids they're leaving behind why are you so heartless.
meanwhile post kirk they celebrated the death and to this day still attack people who show any support for him like that loser nurse attacking the old lady at walmart for wearing a shirt

Great logic, so she's a radical extremist for blocking the fed's pathway and running off while under arrest by ur logic she deserves it.
Its not corrupt its justice isn't that what you want, rules for thee but not for me
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>>1474384
no, seriously, stop posting until you can type like a normal english speaker.
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>>1474380
how does it feel knowing that could've been you, knowing people will celebrate it call it justice when a violent leftist terrorist is gunned down regardless of your actual political beliefs. does it feel good that's what people like you have been doing for the last decade branding every a misogynist transphobe nazi w/e. you deserve this, this is justice if kirk didn't happen maybe people wouldn't be so cruel but after what you've done you deserve it.
People like you put trump into power
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>>1474395
lmao you're a fag
Kirk was a fag and now he's in hell
deal with it, esl shill
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>>1474395
i dont know bro i kinda feel a lot more threatened knowing that ICE agents will kill a random white lady because if theyll do that, what chance do i have lmao. again, and i will take it to my grave, charlie kirk didnt deserve to die, but i feel zero empathy knowing that this same man thought it was funny and based for somebody to beat up old man with a fucking hammer. or to say that he "biden should be given the death penalty".
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>>1474380
>he reaped what he sowed
You missed that anon's point.
You can disagree with someone politically without wanting them dead. But you're sitting here trying to justify his death and expecting some sort of special considerations because a dyke got killed for trying to run over an ICE agent.
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>>1474402
I feel like people are still out for blood after the kirk situation, the leftist public response was and is still pretty revolting, if more cases like this come up i can see people being more sympathetic but unfortunately for this lady, people are going to see how leftists celebrated his death and treat this death in the same way as a form of fairness.
I get people not liking him i had no clue who he even was but like people should've stayed silent if they had nothing better to say instead of stroking the flames and this is where we're at now sadly especially since we recently had that nurse harassing an old lady at walmart calling her a racist for wearing a damn shirt.
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>>1474406
see >>1474402
im not justifying anyones death. he didnt deserve to die for his opinions no matter how much of an annoying faggot he was, but someone goes around saying that this person and that person needs to be hit with a pie, you cant expect people to "have sympathy" when said person gets hit with a pie. this weird ass idea that if you dont completely disavow something means you approve of it is an insane way to go about life.
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>>1474380
>its fine for me to be a hypocrite but not you
>here's why i can celebrate this guy being shot for his opinions but you should be sad when its someone like me who gets shot.
>>1474411
you didn't disavowed the people celebrating it or stop them from being the vocal concensus. leftists have been cherrypicking crazy people to represent everything outside of the democrat hemisphere for a decade ago but now its bad when people do it back to you?
>this weird ass idea that if you dont completely disavow something means you approve of it is an insane way to go about life.
started by leftists
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>that's why for the past decade they've been dehumanizing their political opponent deplatforming them, calling them nazis
But enough about the projecting rightard shill
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>>1474409
How did you feel about the two politicians who got assassinated or Paul Pelosi's hammer attack? Because the right was downright giddy about them, and then they had the gall to be this indignant about people quoting Kirk directly.
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>>1474384
>gotta love the leftist hypocrisy
Condemn Ross and name the murderer - Ross - and nobody shall speak Charlie Kirk's name again.
>b-but I want to dancegrave on Good!
The duality of the rightist hypocrite.
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>>1474411
>im not justifying anyones death.
You are though. Because (and this is a thing all lefties do unconsciously by the way) you contextualize discussions about his death by pointing out he was a radical extremist.

Not a single one of you can say "he didn't deserve to die" without saying he was a fascist or something similar. You know, the principle enemies behind the USA's second creation myth? The same justification that Antifa uses to brain conservatives?

Why are you expecting me to care about ICE killing this person?
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>>1474417
>Why are you expecting me to care about ICE killing this person?
Because there's a difference between a civilian murdering someone and a federal agent doing so. Kirk's killer got arrested. Good's killer is getting fucking immunity.
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>>1474416
are you going to personally hunt down everyone on social media celebrating it? starting with the tmz cunts?
no? you deserve to be next
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>>1474418
should've been given a medal for stopping a domestic terrorist.
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>>1474413
>you didn't disavowed the people celebrating it or stop them from being the vocal concensus
your right I (me) didnt, because its not my fucking job to do that. but to say that NOBODY did is blatantly wrong because i saw plenty of left leaning people come out to say that celebrating his death is wrong.
>>1474417
>you contextualize discussions about his death by pointing out he was a radical extremist
im sorry i guess he just got his throat blown out at one of his events because of his views on ketchup vs mustard??? thats not "contextualizing" thats the entire fucking reason people bring that up. extreme ideas beget extreme action.
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>>1474423
There's still time.
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>I'm not justifying anybody's death
You are though
>>1474417
Because (and this is a thing all righties do unconsciously by the way) you contextualize discussions about her death by pointing out she was a radical extremist
Not a single one of you can say "She didn't deserve to die" without saying she was a (as the resident shill would say) 'fascist' or something similar. You know, their principal enemies. The same justification that MAGAts uses to brain democrats?
Why are you expecting me to care about Charlie Kirk? Or Ross now he's known to the entire world.
>principle enemies
>principle
Unless you're said resident shill which commits terrorist acts against the English language. Mainly due to not being American, because those who are know the difference between principal and principle.
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>>1474418
The difference is that you purposefully excuse the actions of terrorists while constantly trying to undermine the authority of the state by perpetuating false narratives.
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>>1474430
Link should be >>1474272
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>>1474429
someone will give him a few medals eventually
it may be even be a self medal
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>>1474428
>im sorry i guess he just got his throat blown out at one of his events because of his views on ketchup vs mustard?
Possibly. The first time I ever saw him it was some leftfag posting a blown up head image, (You know, like the Vance memes, "Look at how silly I am, which immediately invalidates everything I say!"). I never followed him or listened to him.
So, can you do me a favor and post some direct extremist quotes from him?
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>>1474434
I see what you did there, so I reported your post to the FBI.
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>>1474430
>Why are you expecting me to care about Charlie Kirk?
Because you set the tone and tenor or acceptable political discourse, retard.
You can't cry about double standards after normalizing terrorism. Or expect other people to care.
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>>1474423
>>1474429
And then you drop your mask. If it wasn’t Charlie Kirk but a left wing podcaster you would be cheering. You are happy about ICE killing a woman for a traffic infraction.

The video clearly shows her wheels turned to the right and her trying to drive away. The badly trained idiot positions himself in frontof the vehicle. A place any trained law enforcement officer is taught week one not to stand. He has been hit 2 other times Vance claimed today. Thames he has made this mistake multiple times and put himself in the position to use deadly force.

Lick boots. Charlie Kirk’s bigot was a bigot. He still didn’t deserve to be shot. You can be mad about that statement but it is still me saying that the bigot didn’t deserve to be shot for using his bigot free speech.
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>>1474437
Oh shi! I hope "anon" enjoys his federally appointed prison rapist.
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>>1474428
>i saw plenty of left leaning people come out to say that celebrating his death is wrong.
a very very tiny proportion, the consensus was that he deserved it therefore you are all complicit.
>>1474441
according to this >>1474272 she's an anti-ice far-left extremist. so she's not innocent. there are no such things as an innocent leftist.
Maybe internally but i wouldn't be out posting about how that leftist deserved it and how they were a pos alongside ai edits of his throat being popped.
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>>1474441
>Lick boots. Charlie Kirk’s bigot was a bigot. He still didn’t deserve to be shot. You can be mad about that statement but it is still me saying that the bigot didn’t deserve to be shot for using his bigot free speech.
Th boy who cried "BIGOT!" refuses to provide evidence. That would lead one to suspect that the word "bigot", like "racist" has simply become a power word for liggerals.
>So I, Yelled "BIGOT!" and left!
>Everybody clapped.
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>>1474446
its like you're training yourself to be retarded
you're going to be our chris-chan
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>>1474438
bro, people literally tried to coup the government on jan. 6, got a cop killed, walked around talking about hanging sitting government officials in the building, and then spent 4 years openly talking about the ways they would do things that would get any normal person on a watch list to biden and just about every democrat. i dont even care about this red vs blue shit, MAGA retards have done nothing but stir the pot and are the sole reason we are where we are, what the fuck are you even talking about?
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>>1474438
Yeah, but you see the right-wing narrative immediately after the shooting was that Kirk was this angelic man who never wished death on anybody which was plainly untrue. So, either you went along with the lie, or you got accused of the thing you're accusing.
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>>1474441
>You can be mad
>mad
I'm not mad. I'm annoyed that my feed is flooded with lefties trying to make a criminal into a martyr and riot. Again.
Sending troops into Minnesota would be an absolute moral good at this point.
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>>1474420
>y-you can't dance on Kirk's grave!
>I want to dance on Good's grave, and nobody can stop me!
The duality of the rightist hypocrite.
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>>1474446
>according to this >>1474272(Cross-thread) she's an anti-ice far-left extremist
yeah and according to trump and his blowup doll, the ice agent was literally run over had to seek treatment at the emergency room. ya know, the thing that was blatantly a lie as the fat fuck calmly sauntered over to make sure she was dead before waddling back to his car to flee the scene
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>I'm annoyed that my feed is flooded with lefties trying to make a criminal into a martyr and riot
>or I can just ignore such and not let it bother me in the slightest
So >>1474454 is mad. good
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>>1474450
You do realize that literally everything from 2015 to 2024 was fake, gay, and designed to get and keep Trump out of office, right?
There was no civility from Democrats or leftists terrorists at all and you expect anyone to care about "muh gubbmint" half of which was involved of intentionally attempting to disrupt the democratically elected president people voted for.
So Jan 6 truthers can go fuck themselves.
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>>1474449
no that's you
>>1474457
he's talking about that agent in 2025 from another incident if you can't read properly how do you expect normal people to take you seriously.
ESL leftist shill.
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>>1474450
leftists spent 10 years dehumanizing their opposition and gaslighting muh jan 6 jan 6.
lemme guess you're going to ignore CHOP the countless antifa assaults the ADL outright faking statistics by not classifying BLM or antifa as organization.
you're a leftist bigot who drove everyone outside of ur unhinged hemisphere to trump I hope you're happy now actions have consequences and the consequence for you being a piece of shit is for trump to be in office till 2028 and another republican in 2032
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>>1474449 doesn't behave the way you do in 4chan >>1474461 the shill & resident lolcow, so what's your excuse, Chris-Chan of /news/?
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>leftist
We sure got a lot of russian shills in this thread still forcing their fake group
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>>1474459
yes yes i know every body was out to stop trump because everyone just wants to keep him down and its unfair boo hoo. well he whined hard enough that people believed he should win this time and now look what its gotten us. even if i believed that bullshit victimcard nonsense he pulls, seems like they were right to try so hard if you ask me.
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>>1474464
is having a melty
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>>1474468
>victimcard nonsense
they tried to frame him sleeping with a hooker as election fraud. the supreme court justice even called out the procecutor asking why its a felony for trump but never any previous presidents who've done something similar.
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>>1474468
>and now look what its gotten us
I'm happy without Bidenflation and at this point, a deafening amount of non-reporting on the president's actions.
The economy is improving, illegals are getting deported, LGBTQ terrorists are getting capped.
The downside is the leftist civil unrest, but they do this every time anyone tries to fix anything.
What are they even trying to conserve?
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>>1474472
What a weird strawman
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>>1474084
>but upon probable cause
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>>1474472
bro... do you... you really want to go over what they "tried to frame" him for when theres 34 felony counts hes been convicted of? not to mention the leaked calls, conflicts of interest, and every blatant unconstitutional action that he will almost certainly be held accountable for the second hes not president anymore (if our country is worth anything that is)?
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>>1474476
>The economy is improving
the economy is literally treading water thanks to powell and even he said its probably gonna get bad
>illegals are getting deported
while costing tax payers exponentially more thanks to ICE just picking up every random person they see, who have to have to be housed and fed, just to realize its a US citizen. also which has impacted farmers and jobs majorly dependent on migrant labor that no one else will do, forcing our government to bail them out.
>LGBTQ terrorists are getting capped.
dont even have to point out how retarded that one is
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>>1474476
Also 2A improved.

>>1474483
>dont even have to point out how retarded that one is
No you can't refute it. That's why.
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>>1474484
>make retarded claim
>”That’s retarded.”
>’ah-HA, so you can’t refute it!’
The MAGA playbook, summarized.
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>>1474481
> you can get a jury to convict a ham sandwitch
none of the charges would've held up on appeal retard.
>he will almost certainly be held accountable for the second hes not president anymore
pfft what a delusional retard, you literally violated his fundamental constitutional right to a fair and impartial trial anon. you aren't getting him on anything.
you sound like a treasonous traitor right now maybe you should get iced
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>>1474486
LGBTQ terrorists getting capped is a good thing. It's one less of you faggots to riot and throw molotovs into small business anytime Trump does something you don't like... such as existing.
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>>1474483
Oh, thank you for caring sooo much about flyover red state scum like me.
I really, really fucking appreciate it.
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>>1474495
You're not american
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>>1474486
>Act retard
>Look retarded
>Make retards look less retarded
What did anon mean by doing this?
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Why chuds defend the Minnesota Massacre?
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Karen's speaking to the big manager in the sky now
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esl shill is trying to fit in with ancient memes again



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