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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/videos-contradict-trump-account-fatal-ice-shooting-minneapolis-rcna253107

It took just seven seconds for an encounter between Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers and a driver in Minneapolis to turn deadly.

Videos of those moments, captured by witnesses’ cellphones and posted to social media, show how the confrontation escalated into gunshots that left a mother dead behind the wheel. The clips also contradict an account provided by President Donald Trump.

Trump, in a social media post hours after the Wednesday morning shooting, said the driver — later identified as Renee Nicole Good — “violently, willfully and viciously ran over the ICE Officer.” Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem accused the driver of trying to run the officer over, saying “she hit him” in “an act of domestic terrorism.” The agency called her a violent rioter. All said the officer fired in self-defense.

“It is hard to believe he is alive,” Trump said.

A close look at the videos shows that Good’s car did not knock down the officer, whose legs were to the side of the SUV as it moved by him while he fired. The officer walked away from the scene unassisted. Noem said he was treated at a hospital and released.
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In the videos, the confrontation, which is under investigation by the FBI, begins with Good’s Honda Pilot SUV partially blocking traffic on a residential street in south Minneapolis with several federal vehicles in her path. Bystanders are shouting and blowing whistles. Next to the SUV, a woman, who later identified herself as Good’s wife, and an ICE officer, later identified as Jonathan Ross, are recording each other with their phones.

Good, in the driver’s seat, waves cars past her. Ross begins walking around her SUV. Two more federal officers pull up, get out of their car and approach Good, telling her to get out. One grabs the driver’s door handle and reaches inside the open driver’s side window.

As he does that, Good reverses, then moves forward, turning her wheels to the right, away from the officers. By then, Ross has come around to the driver’s side of the SUV, and he draws his gun. At the moment he fires his first shot, the car’s wheels are directed away from him. His legs appear to be clear of the car. He fires the second and third shots into the open driver’s side window as the car is moving.

Good, struck in the head, loses control of the SUV, which accelerates and crashes into a parked car about 140 feet away.

After the shooting, the woman who identified herself as Good’s wife runs to the crashed car. Ross walks over, as well, then asks for someone to call 911. Less than 30 seconds later, he gets into a car and is driven away.
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>>1474652
>supposed to be run over
>runs 100 feet to the car after being "hit"
>gets into a car by himself afterward
If he had a bodycam on they should release the footage to remove any doubt. I'm guessing they don't wear bodycams for exactly that reason.
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>>1474653
>right, away from the officers. By then, Ross has come around to the driver’s side of the SUV, and he draws his gun. At the moment he fires his first shot, the car’s wheels are directed away from him.

Slow down the videos and you can see this part is a fucking lie
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>>1474686
No it isn't.
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>>1474686
How much does Noem pay you people to shitpost on 4chan?
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>>1474688
tree fiddy
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>>1474686
You were spamming AI slop and saying it was a still from drone footage of the murder yesterday, your don't get to accuse anyone else of lying
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>>1474652
All he had to do was post a boilerplate message saying "This was a tragic situation, but the subject attempted to flee federal agents, and in the confusion an agent reacted. We are investigating this and will report findings as we receive them."
But the only thing Trump loves more than raping children is being a drama queen, so he had to run to twitter and make up a fairy tale while posting video from half a mile away because the HD footage from the scene showed he's lying
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>>1474704
Don't forget declaring him innocent within 24 hours and blocking the investigation, even though even the most blatant self-defense officer-involved shootings usually have at least a week of suspension to make sure.
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After I've had my second bottle of wine, I want to run over some of these fascist I.C.E. thugs, but my husband takes away my keys.
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>>1474684
Given this is the trump regime, they've already destroyed the footage
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>>1474715
The fact that he was seen running the length of a football field in tactical gear after he was supposedly hit by a car is damning enough even without bodycam footage.
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>>1474704
If you can beat the truth to the public consciousness quick enough, then the lie becomes the official story in most people's minds. Most people will not change their mind once it is made up. It's been an effective strategy for Trump. It's not working this time, since the truth came out almost immediately and was so shocking.
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>>1474652
Based on his response I honestly wonder if his aides showed him a completely unrelated video and just told him thats what happened. That would explain why he would lie so blatantly that the agent was ran over and was sent to the hospital, when anyone can see the fed was completely fine afterwards.
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>>1474718
people have already moved on. they didn't even riot
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>>1474721
No, they didn't move on. There is nothing physically to riot against - aside of ICE agents themselves.
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>>1474721
You can literally see the protests going live right now.
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>>1474721
Americans want to be serfs in a neoaristocracy. They find the rich hoarding all power and resources and telling everyone else to screw themselves to be aspirational, since your average American is such an optimist that they think their kid will one day be at the top stomping his boot down on everyone else.
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>>1474726
not everyone's a broke boy like you
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>>1474725
there's only one protest happening right now and it's like 10 karens in MN
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>>1474726
Sounds like Mencius Moldbug bullshit to me.
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>>1474729
>blatantly lying about the protests
Back in my day chud damage control was better than this.
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>>1474686
Isn't the direction where the tires were pointed kind of irrelevant?
The cops pulled her over and were arresting her. She tried to get away. From her perspective she didn't want to hurt anyone, just get away from law enforcement.
I am sure many get away drivers had the same motivations. But if you ignore enough warnings and opportunities things will escalate. If you watch the video you can see them telling her to get out of the vehicle. You can see another one of the officers repeatedly trying to open the door to her vehicle, or to reach around and unlock the door so he can open the door to the vehicle and pull her out of it. You can see them reaching for their guns as she backs up
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>>1474756
Law enforcement isn't supposed to shoot moving vehicles retard. Also, they had no authority to arrest her; she wasn't even blocking the street, they were.
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>>1474761
Don't make fun of the ESL shill for fentposting and forgetting that the US has different laws than their shithole country
Between the substandard education, all the drugs, and needing to live in constant fear of cops magdumping them has caused severe mental retardation
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>>1474756
We all heard him scream "get the fuck out of the car", so you can stop pretending that they were acting professionally when they murdered her
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>>1474767
Oh and also calling her a "fucking bitch" after shooting her, which really throws his self defense claims out the window combined with the fact we now have hard confirmation he not only got in front of her car deliberately, but also that she was turning to avoid him.
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>>1474767
So why didn't she get out of the car?
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>>1474779
Because they had no authority to order her out. She wasn't blocking the road, they were. They weren't doing an active arrest either so she wasn't interfering with that.
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>>1474779
unidentified men with masks and guns getting out of unmarked cars yelling at someone to get the fuck out of the car. gee, wonder why someone would panic.
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>>1474767
Follow the law or get shot, simple as that. The next law must be one that prohibits left-wing terrorist activities and propaganda.
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>>1474786
>propaganda
Outlawing leftist propaganda would do a lot to heal the US. That's a tricky one though with 1A.
Then again, the US has various hate speech laws propping up already at the behest of fascist leftists.
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>>1474786
Yeah the law doesn't deem "disobeying police" as a fucking death penalty offense.
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>>1474786
So Ashley Babbitt should have followed the law? The January 6th people who beat cops with Trump flags on national television for us all to see. The cops should have shot and killed all those people who Trump pardened?
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>>1474788
“Fascist leftist” this is how stupid these mother fuckers are
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>>1474794
>So Ashley Babbitt should have followed the law?
I mean, I'd imagine she'd be alive today if she did.
Relevance? None? OK, dipshit.
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>>1474795
What do you mean? Leftisim is peak fascist collectivism, isn't it? It's authoritative and all attempts at communism have turned into authoritarian nightmares.
Authoritarianism is the true face of modern leftism.
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>>1474788
Terrorists are not protected by the constitution; they are traitors to the state and are treated like enemy combatants. If you run terrorist cells and organize riots or dox federal agents, and threaten death, then action must follow. Communist terrorists cannot be allowed to spread its poison and its partisans must be prosecuted militarily.
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>>1474794
If George Floyd followed the law he would still be alive
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>>1474803
Saying fascist left is like saying monarchist left.
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>>1474803
NTA but fascism is a far right ideology retard
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>>1474795
nazi stands for National Socialist German Workers' Party.
funny how leftists keep pretending all the "bad" ideologies are right wing after the fact.
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>>1474840
>>1474850
I hear a lot of people say that the CCP is not communist, but they are nationalists and socialists. How do you respond to claims that Chinese are the real Fascists? They are the real NatSoc?
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>>1474767
>smug dyke follows officer around cursing at him before telling her wife to drive away AFTER they tell her to get out of the fucking car
>WAAAAAHHH HOW CAN THEY CURSE?

Well fucking well... Oh I love /news/!
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>>1474840
>Monarchist left
Ba'athist socialism. It's a way better ideology that simply calling yourself left wing because Rush Limbaugh did.
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>>1474870
So you think changing the narrative from "his life was in danger" to "she was being a bitch" is going to help? Lol, you're some real amateurs huh
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>>1474862
No one is claiming that but low IQ trolls
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>>1474877
Yeah especially the part where she's clearly fleeing detainment, clearly wasn't scared or flustered, and clearly drove into that agent. What other narrative you got, faggot?
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>>1474887
>As he does that, Good reverses, then moves forward, turning her wheels to the right, away from the officers. By then, Ross has come around to the driver’s side of the SUV, and he draws his gun. At the moment he fires his first shot, the car’s wheels are directed away from him. His legs appear to be clear of the car. He fires the second and third shots into the open driver’s side window as the car is moving.
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>>1474840

If you bothered to read Mein Kampf you'd know that hitler used the word 'Socialist' in National Socialist German Workers' Party as a propaganda tactic for greatre appeal. The party was fascist: Racism, Totalitarian control, corporatistm.
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>>1474895
First shot was through the windshield because he's in front of her getting hit by her car. Nice try faggot.
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>>1474899
Because he was standing in front of her car. Now, justify the two shots through the open drivers side window, because that amounts to a summary execution. It also shows he can and did got out of the way; under official DOJ protocol, officers are not permitted to use deadly force against a moving vehicle unless they can't get out of the way of it.
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>>1474903
>Because he was standing in front of her car.
Which does not absolve her, dumbass. lol
>Now, justify the two shots through the open drivers side window,
Tell me you don't know shit about self-defense shootings without telling me.
>because that amounts to a summary execution.
KEK
>under official DOJ protocol, officers are not permitted to use deadly force against a moving vehicle unless they can't get out of the way of it.
Quote it. I already know you read the first sentence and skipped everything after "unless:"
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>>1474911
>Which does not absolve her, dumbass. lol
Actually it does, because along with the visible evidence of her trying to turn to avoid hitting him mid-k-turn, it also means he endangered himself which invalidates self defense.

>Tell me you don't know shit about self-defense shootings without telling me.
Yeah they don't involve shooting at someone after they've already been disabled. Police aren't allowed to double tap retard.

>Quote it.
>Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
>https://www.justice.gov/jm/1-16000-department-justice-policy-use-force#1-16.200
Notice how it includes being able to get out of the way, something he literally did in order to shoot two rounds through the side door.
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>>1474916
>Actually it does
Actually it doesn't, because even if the car didn't make contact with him - which it did - he's still cleared to shoot because she's using her car in a dangerous manner to evade detainment, which is a felony in itself.

>Yeah they don't involve shooting at someone after they've already been disabled.
And he knew this within the span of less than two seconds for the entire shooting - while being run over???

>Police aren't allowed to double tap retard.
Source: your ass.

>Notice how it includes being able to get out of the way,
Which he wasn't able to do in time.
>something he literally did
After being hit by her car and forced out of the way? LMAO
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>>1474920
>Actually it doesn't, because even if the car didn't make contact with him - which it did - he's still cleared to shoot because she's using her car in a dangerous manner to evade detainment, which is a felony in itself.
You can't read.

Also, he wasn't run over. No video shows contact; even his phone video just shows him dropping his phone to take out his gun. He literally just jumps back to take out his gun.
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>>1474924
>You can't read.
>it's okay to flee arrest as long as you TRY to avoid hitting officers
LOL moron.

>Also, he wasn't run over.
He was hit by her car.
>No video shows contact
The second video from yesterday clearly shows the front of her car hitting him and moving him out of the way.

But you pretended you couldn't see that either so *shrug*.
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>>1474931
Fleeing arrest does not warrant deadly force.

>The second video from yesterday clearly shows the front of her car hitting him and moving him out of the way.
Oh really? Show the frame. Please. If it's so clear you should have a frame of it happening.
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>>1474794
Hopefully the next president reverses what trump did and makes sure she gets dishonorably discharged, loses her rank and all her benefits to her family.
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>>1474935
>Fleeing arrest does not warrant deadly force.
It does when you're bowling officers with your car, dumbass. lol

>Oh really? Show the frame.
Already did in the last thread. Go back and re-read everything.
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>>1474939
>It does when you're bowling officers with your car, dumbass. lol
Which she wasn't doing. I've read you the official policy; he was able to get out of the way and did with zero issue. Deadly force was not authorized.

>Already did in the last thread. Go back and re-read everything.
So you don't have one.
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>>1474939
>officers
>plural
Oh shill. You can't even keep your bullshit talking points straight.
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>>1474942
>Which she wasn't doing.
Which she did. Get it right, faggot.
>I've read you the official policy;
Including the part that says you can shoot people that try to run you over.
>he was able to get out of the way
On an icy road (notice her tires spinning).
>and did with zero issue.
After being hit by the car and shoved out of the way.
>Deadly force was not authorized.
Wrong as always.

>So you don't have one.
Kinda hard to juggle five different threads for the same topic. Maybe if we had a mod to pin things... Anyways, >>1473254
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>>1474944
>this is coming from the same people who said she was trying to wave traffic through, was just trying to make a u-turn, was just trying to take her kid to school ... and then got really quiet when the latest video dropped showing her fucking with ICE
LOL
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>>1474946
>Including the part that says you can shoot people that try to run you over.
It actually says you can't do that unless you can't get out of the way, which he was visibly able to do.
>On an icy road (notice her tires spinning).
How does that matter?
>After being hit by the car and shoved out of the way.
Still didn't get hit.

Also your video doesn't show a frame of contact. It's half a mile away and just shows he was close to the car. Meanwhile, you don't use the closer video because it clearly proves otherwise.
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>>1474950
>It actually says you can't do that unless you can't get out of the way
Which he couldn't do in time.
>which he was visibly able to do.
When the car shoved him out of the way LMAO
>How does that matter?
Ever tried jumping out of the way on an icy road while a car is driving straight at you?

You should try it sometime.

>Still didn't get hit.
Still did. Both camera angles and the report says so.

>Also your video doesn't show a frame of contact.
>video clearly shows the car shoving him out of the way.
Never change /news/.
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>>1474920
NTA, but you are a spiritual nigger. Your soul is on foodstamps.
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>>1474955
>Which he couldn't do in time.
He literally did lmao. How else did he shoot through her driver door?

>Ever tried jumping out of the way on an icy road while a car is driving straight at you?
He literally does it. You can see him clearly jump back on the closer video.

>Still did. Both camera angles and the report says so.
What report? FBI blocked the investigation.

>>video clearly shows the car shoving him out of the way.
It doesn't and the fact you can't even show a frame of him being in contact proves that. You just point at 10 blurry as fuck pixels and be like "Look, theoretically that could be him making contact with the car!"
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>>1474965
>He literally did lmao.
Not before being hit by the car.
>How else did he shoot through her driver door?
Wow you people are so fucking retarded. Let me try speaking your language: 'DURRR CAR PUSH GUY TO LEFT DURR

>He literally does it.
Oh so now he jumped in the video? Can you show me and post the exact frame where it happens?

>What report?
The article that said he went to the hospital for injuries.

>It doesn't
It does.
>and the fact you can't even show a frame of him being in contact proves that.
Already did in the last thread. Go back and read it.
>You just point at 10 blurry as fuck pixels
>boomers can't see
lol
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>>1474969
>Not before being hit by the car.
Nope, you can even see on his camera footage he takes a step back when he goes to fire.

>Wow you people are so fucking retarded. Let me try speaking your language: 'DURRR CAR PUSH GUY TO LEFT DURR
Not an argument. If he was able to shoot through the side of her car that means she wasn't driving at him AND that he got out of the way.

>The article that said he went to the hospital for injuries.
And I call bullshit considering he literally hung around the scene, got in his own car, and showed zero signs of injury.

>Already did in the last thread. Go back and read it.
So you still don't have it. Come on anon, post your image. Surely it'll be crystal clear.
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>>1474969
How did you end up as a shill, anyways? High school diploma too difficult to obtain?
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WHY DOES IT MATTER IF HER TIRES WERE POINTED TOWARDS THE COP OR TOWARDS THE ROAD?
SHE WAS SURROUNDED BY COPS AND WAS BEING ARRESTED AS SHE HIT THE GAS AND TRIED TO FLEE ARREST
THAT IS WHY SHE WAS SHOT
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>>1474976
>Nope
Yup.

>Not an argument.
>physics is not an argument
LOL.
>If he was able to shoot through the side of her car that means she wasn't driving at him AND that he got out of the way.
AFTER the car hit him and shoved him to the driver's side, in the middle of a shooting that took less than two seconds.

I know it must be hard for you, living in an alternate reality and trying to explain what you wish had happened to people who actually saw what did happen. This is why that nice doctor gave you those pills to take every day. You should listen to him.

>And I call bullshit
Good for you. Nobody gives a fuck what you think. He went to the hospital to be checked for injuries. This is irrefutable, though I'm sure you'll try.

>Come on anon, post your image.
It's in the last thread. I'm not doing extra work for you when I already linked it before, especially when this same debate is going on in three different threads because you people are retards who don't know how to consolidate.
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>>1474981
They had no authority to arrest her because she wasn't an immigrant nor were they doing an immigration enforcement operation. And don't bring up the "she was blocking the road!" shit when they were actually doing that and she can be seen leaving enough room to go past her AND even trying to wave them past.
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>>1474981
Your side are the ones who set the goalposts at "SHE WAS A FOAMING AT THE MOUTH PSYCHO TRYING TO KILL A GORILLION ICE AGENTS!"
Don't whine to us that you have to drag them down the field now.
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>>1474984
Lmao your floundering and you refuse to post your apparently absolvitory image at all. Your boy is a murderer and once he's tracked down to face justice he will be found guilty.
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>>1474989
>Lmao your floundering
Projecting.
>and you refuse to post your apparently absolvitory image at all.
Linked you the video. Watch it or don't.
>Your boy is a murderer
Self-defense = / = murder.
>and once he's tracked down to face justice he will be found guilty.
Retard doesn't realize we already know who the officer is.
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>>1474955
>Never change /news/.
/pol/ is where you go to have serious discussions on happenings. /news/ is just a circus.
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>>1475005
Yeah but these reddittards are too scared to have any debate outside of their safe space, so...
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>>1474986
If you were at the airport and an FBI agent tried to stop you, would you run onto the plane saying the FBI agent doesn't have local jursidiction?
If you were trying to transport more than $100,000 in a suitcase on that plane, would you say an IRS agent couldn't detain you, or impound your suitcase because of lack of jurisdiction?
If you were illegally poaching at a national park, would you say that Federal Wildlife Officer or a Special Agent with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service wouldn't be able to arrest you because they don't have jurisdiction?
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>>1474996
>Linked you the video. Watch it or don't.
Video doesn't show shit. The fact you can't even produce a screenshot clearly showing contact just enforces that you're full of shit.

>Retard doesn't realize we already know who the officer is.
Oh we know who he is. It's a matter of finding his location.
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>watch the video from the killer's pov
>it makes it even clearer she was turning away
Yep it's murder.
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>>1475038
>Video doesn't show shit.
It does, you're just being retarded.
>The fact you can't even produce a screenshot clearly showing contact just enforces that you're full of shit.
I'm not your monkey. Watch the video and take your own screenshots.
>It's a matter of finding his location.
So leftists can do the typical mob violence shit. Y'know what? I hope you do. I'll be here laughing at you when the feds light your ass up. I'm sure you'll be crying about how unjustified that was too.
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>>1475041
>Watch the video and take your own screenshots.
I can't take a screenshot of something that doesn't happen.

>So leftists can do the typical mob violence shit.
Tell him to hand himself over to local law enforcement then.
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>>1475043
>I can't take a screenshot of something that doesn't happen.
>If I keep pretending I can't see it then it didn't happen.
Welp sucks to be you then I guess.

>Tell him to hand himself over to local law enforcement then.
How about no.
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>>1475049
You literally cannot produce a frame that shows contact.

>How about no.
He can either report to the authorities and get a trial or the people can take things into their own hands. His choice.
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>>1475052
>You literally cannot produce a frame that shows contact.
I literally gave you the video. Cut up your own frames, faggot.

>He can either report to the authorities and get a trial or the people can take things into their own hands. His choice.
Well for one he's already in the hands of authorities. Just not local like you demand, because fuck you and what you want.

Two, on God I WISH you motherfuckers would. I WANT another 2020 so I can watch you faggots get shot again. Fucking ON GOD, both fingers crossed, DO IT FAGGOT.
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>>1475056
>Well for one he's already in the hands of authorities
Not ones who are going to actually investigate the murder he committed. They literally declared him innocent within hours with no chance for investigation; the state of Minnesota wants justice for one of their citizens being murdered.

Jonathan Ross will face justice one way or another.
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>>1475059
>Not ones who are going to actually investigate the murder he committed.
Womp Womp.

> They literally declared him innocent within hours
Because he was.

>the state of Minnesota wants justice for one of their citizens being murdered.
No they want mob justice because one of their own got killed doing some stupid shit and they hate how ICE is deporting their slave labor. Too fucking bad, you're not getting him.

>Jonathan Ross will face justice one way or another.
Once again: DO IT FAGGOT. Go out and be the hero you think you are. I will be laughing at you and your family at your funeral. Fucking DO IT. Where's that Shia LaBeouf video?
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>>1475059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXsQAXx_ao0
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>>1475062
so you've resigned to dying alone, mr edgelord?
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>>1474704
I honestly think it's possible that he ISN'T making it up... from his perspective. It's entirely likely his handlers have him hooked on AI slop to show him whatever they want, because god knows he'd believe it unhesitatingly.
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>>1475069
Given how many faked AI videos were created by the far right to make it look like the woman was murdered was the aggressor, I wouldn't be shocked either.
On the other hand, what's really interesting is how everyone on the right wing just immediately went with the same talking point that the murder was 'self defense' like there was a playbook for this, like they had drawn up to defend trump from the fact he was at the top of the Epstein list.
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>>1475124
You fight all of these ghosts and not even use holy water. Foolish
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>>1475143
If you want to kneecap far right propaganda on social media, just force every post to show what country they're from.
I wonder what flag you'd show since it clearly wouldn't be American.
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>>1475151
You're the least American person here
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>>1475160
90% of his posts here are projection.
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>>1475217
Agreed, his English is poor
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esl shill always thinks he's so slick when he talks to himself
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Imagine pretending to be first world on the internet. Sad
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call me desmond three three
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At least Trump finally made people forget about those pesky Epstein files, amiright fellow magapedes?
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>>1475333
Lol, not bad
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>>1475225
They get paid 5 rupees per post.
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>>1474795
Liberals would ban private book ownership if it’s the means to support their local Libraries, while not understanding where the actual book donations come from.

The party of “You’ll own nothing and be happy” You own nothing but the experimental RNA proteins rewriting random DNA inside you.
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>>1475160
>>1475217
>>1475220
Least obvious samefagging
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>>1475708
You replied to three different people.
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There's nothing more hilarious than a radicalized chudcel telling people what liberals supposedly think.



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