Greenland isn't a real country.

>>1476055
It is however the legal territory of a country that is very fucking real. One that the US is supposed to be ALLIES with.

>>1476054
Oh are we ready to talk about something else besides that dead lesbian? We don't need ten more threads about that?

>>1476054
America already has access to Greenland's resources. We're allies. We're going to backstab our allies and start a war in order to gain absolutely nothing.
Jesus fucking christ this guy is so fucking unbelievably stupid.

Yeah apparently if you're the strongest country on earth you can just take what you want, who knew

if we want to establish ourselves as an everlasting superpower we need those resources to ourselves to fuck china and russia no lube

>>1476058
If he SOMEHOW isn't a Russian agent, he missed his calling.

>>1476063
>blows up russians in syria
>he's a russian agent
It's all so tiresome.

>>1476064
>Still using this excuse
Way to confirm he did it just so you could try to defend he's putin's puppet.

>>1476064
libs got mindraped in 2016 by hildawg's fake russiagate hoax and never recovered

>>1476064
Russia chose to say in the official channels that they had no personnel in that area, and that it was just Syrians. That may have complicated things.

Donald Trump wears a pin with a picture of himsef. He calls it "Happy Trump". It reminds him that he is not happy and is hoping for a day that he becomes happy.

Totally normal behavior

>>1476064
Anon, buddy o' pal, surely by now you've figured out that Russian lives are extremely expendable in Putin's eyes?

>>1476055
You say that like it matters. Like that means the US should just take it.

Filthy imperialist swine.

>>1476066
what was fake about it?

>>1476080
-entirely predicated on discredited dossier paid for by hildawg
-discredited ICA report manipulated by clapper, brennan
-fbi bias and misconduct (peter strzok, kevin clinesmith)
-no evidence of russian collusion

>>1476079
So....who do you think could stop America? America yoinked a President in less time then it you spend taking a shit. If, for the sake if argument, every stupid thing you believe about America was true... What are YOU gonna do about it, bitch?

>>1476082
None of that shit is true thoughbeit

>>1476085
wrong

>>1476084
You can be loved, you can be feared, but never, EVER let yourself be hated.

>>1476090
they hate us because they anus

>>1476090
So...your plan is to sit in the corner and seethe? Because that lesson applies to individual rulers, not the nation with hands down the most powerful military on the fucking planet and the only one with a navy to speak off. How many nations even have the capacity to REACH US territory in the first place?

>>1476084
>What are YOU gonna do about it, bitch?
I don't think it's hard to explain the difference between a successful surprise attack operation and a sustained war, but apparently it's hard enough that you retards can't recognize it.

>>1476087
Don't take my word for it, ask @grok

>>1476096
See>>1476094

>>1476094
Hate's a hell of a motivator, anon. And you're fucking with countries that have nukes.

>>1476097
steele dossier discredited:
-pee tape was fake
-igor danchenko acquitted
-no proof from steele

ica discredited:
-clapper/brennan ignored evidence to produce biased report
-whistleblower testimony asserts analysts were pressured to manufacture bias

fbi bias/corruption:
-durham report relied on unverified sources and ignored evidence
-strzok text messages demonstrated clear bias
-faulty fisa warrant to illegally surveil carter page
-fbi lawyer kevin clinesmith pledged guilty for producing false evidence to misrepresent page

no russian collusion:
-no evidence has ever been shown to exist

Trump won't do shit, it's just saber rattling because he's old and retarded.

>>1476102
>steele dossier discredited:
Not all of it was discredited. It was an opposition research report.
>ica discredited
>whistleblower testimony
The whisteblower was found to be literally a Russian agent.
>fbi bias
No one was ever convicted of a felony
>no russian collusion
That's ridiculous and absurd. The Rubio Report said the opposite. Manafort and Flynn were both giving insider info to the Russians and other countries.

>>1476102
>believing this much propaganda
yikes
do you actually think about anything, or just let other people do it for you?

>>1476106
>Not all of it was discredited
much of it was. and nothing of substance was ever produced to demonstrate collusion

>The whisteblower was found to be literally a Russian agent.
that's a lie

>No one was ever convicted of a felony
kevin clinesmith was convicted of a felony

>manafort and flynn
never charged with collusion.

>>1476107
notice how you can't refute any of it

>>1476106
This is like saying not all of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion was discredited
It's strange to partially defend a discredited document.

>>1476115
so you're posting from russia or

>>1476110
>doesn't refute that they don't think
lmao

>>1476123
i accept your concession. hold the L

>>1476104
You faggots say that about everything this retarded dementia patient has done in his term.

Its going to happen and ww3 is going to be his fault. But maybe that means he'll finally dragged out in the street with the rest of the faggots in power.

>>1476126
>good deserved to be murdered
>just like george floyd
>whose murderer is spending 20 years in jail getting stabbed in the stomach and in the butt
lmao, you sure like being told you're retarded

>>1476134
least mentally ill liberal

>Its going to happen
Just as 'No More Foreign Conflicts' was a campaign policy in 2024: just as releasing certain files was a campaign promise. This adminifrustration is now just Distractions all the way down.
Well, as Miami and Indiana proved, there's Republicans who refuse to listen to an orange liar that welshes on promises. The same orange thing refusing to listen to voters saying 'Affordability' and 'Epstein' in terms of priorities.
Why should those betrayed Republican voters have yours - and your orange god's - best interests at heart, cultists & shills of /news/? You have to persuade them - who have never heard of 4chan - to listen to your wrong opinions, because those who aren't MAGA retards never will. And why should they? Why should those Republican voters listen to you when your orange god refuses to listen to them and do what he should if he has his voters' best interests at heart: give those voters priority over his billionaire buddies, least of all you?
You'll never do so by being terminally online here. You'll have to go outside and knock on doors, saying to their faces that only your MAGA opinions are right and theirs are wrong. As if you're ever going to make that happen.
>Its going to happen
Nice fanfic, rightards.

>>1476139
>incoherent babble
this is what passes for intellect on the left

>>1476054
>For Nazism, the growth of Reich, that is to say the expansion of the nation, is an essential manifestation of vitality, and its opposite a sign of decadence. Peoples which are rising, or rising again after a period of decadence, are always imperialist; any renunciation is a sign of decay and of death. Nazism is the doctrine best adapted to represent the tendencies and the aspirations of a volk, like the people of Deutschland, who are rising again after many centuries of abasement and foreign servitude. But Reich demands discipline, the coordination of all forces and a deeply felt sense of duty and sacrifice.

>Above all, Fascism, in so far as it considers and observes the future and the development of humanity quite apart from political considerations of the moment, believes neither in the possibility nor the utility of perpetual peace. It thus repudiates the doctrine of Pacifism — born of a renunciation of struggle and an act of cowardice in the face of sacrifice. War alone brings up to its highest tension all human energy and puts the stamp of nobility upon the people who have the courage to meet it. All other trials are substitutes, which never really put a man in front of himself in the alternative of life and death.

>Three cheers for the war. Three cheers for Italy's war and three cheers for war in general. Peace is hence absurd or rather a pause in war.

All I'm saying is, give war a chance.

schizo is imploding

At least Trump is being honest about why we want Venezuela and Greenland. None of this spread democracy (lol) crap. I might actually enlist, because it seems like Trump knows what militaries are made to do, go out and conquer land for the wealth of the fatherland.

>>1476145
first I've heard that the US Army is accepting foreigners

>lies by 1476142
>I can't counter facts from >>1476139, so I'll say it's just "incoherent babble"
this is what passes as intellect on the right

>>1476145
>I might actually enlist
https://britishcomics.fandom.com/wiki/Union_Jack_Jackson
'Jack Jackson was a Royal Marine Commando who was aboard a British ship sunk by the Japanese in 1943. Jack, rescued by the U.S. Marines, was the sole survivor. He ended up serving with the unit who fished him out of the ocean for the duration of World War II after, due to a misunderstanding, he accidentally signed enlistment papers and became a U.S. Marine himself! In theory, Jack was simply waiting for Washington to realize their error and discharge him, but that didn't stop him seeing a considerable amount of action and, along with his Irish-American sidekick O'Bannion, frequently saving his scornful gum-chewing comrades from the consequences of their own arrogance with his trusty Lee Enfield rifle (a Marine never loses his rifle)'
A fictional character is superior to you

>>1476145
>for the wealth of the fatherland.
lmao you aren't seeing any of it.

>>1476151
up your medication dose. or lower it. whatever you're doing now is not working

The left can moan all they want about international niceties and everything else, but we conservatives live in the real world that is governed by strength, force, power, and ruthlessness. No matter how much the left wants to delude everyone about kumbaya pacifism, these are the iron laws laid out by God since the beginning of time. The meek sacrifice what they must for the survival of the strong.

>>1476157
Okay brownie.

>>1476157
god you're esl

>>1476160
>>1476161
I honestly never thought we'd see the day where ESL would rationalize and support CHAZ

>>1476058
What do you mean? Nobody is talking about Epstein anymore so this is a huge win for Trump

>>1476157
You need to work on your babble, turdie

>>1476157
>quoting stephen miller when he was asked about greenland
lol, does anyone actually like the guy?

>>1476163
Nobody was talking about Epstein when Biden was President. Nobody was asking him to release the files. Was that a huge win for Biden?

>>1476166
All Trump had to do was say that Biden had destroyed the Epstein Files. It was THAT easy. But No. Even thinking in an easy way is too difficult for the senile Trump.
The way that scandal exploded - and no amount of distractions will stop what escaped that particular Pandora's Box - all over the GOP will be impossible to cover up, because they'll never get rid of the smell of pedophilia that's infected them. After all, the Gang of Pedophiles still to this day refuse to make child marriages in certain states illegal, so that in itself is proof.
The fact that Democrats don't care if politicians in their own party get the book thrown at them is the win for Biden, along with that ultra-easy idea that Trump could have used to ensure the Republicans could have come out of this smelling of roses. It's too late for them now.
>Democrats wanting Bill Clinton & any others thrown under the bus
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/2/2191235/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-45
The fact that MAGAts refuse to throw any of the proven Gang Of Pedophiles under the bus is the ultimate win for the Democrats. What their cultists say to the contrary, and even project? Accusations are Admissions. Any of them thrown under the bus, the Democrat Party prevails. Throw the GOP under the bus, there would hardly be any of them left. Including King Pedo.
>'release the Epstein Files' - Trump, 2024
So release them uncensored and be damned. And so what if you're destroyed in the process, GOP & Trump? Why should I care what happens to them?

>>1476058
>America already has access to Greenland's resources

But 100 years from now when Greenland is melted and if Denmark still owns Greenland, the United States of North America will have to pay them mineral rights.

If Greenland is part of the United States of North America 100 years from now, and the United States of North America doesn't have to pay mineral rights, in the history books it will be stated that the greatest president of all time Donald j Trump did this.

>projection by 1476154
the right aren't sending their best

>>1476171
It would be a lot easier to believe that Democrats wanted to throw Bill Clinton out for his sexual impropriety if they actually voted to impeach him for his sexual impropriety with Monica Lewinsky during the 1990s. They didn't. They justified it by saying everyone lies about sex.
It would be a lot easier to believe that Democrats were the party of #MeToo, but that movement seemed to die on the vine when allegations came out against candidate Biden from Tara Reade.

I think Republicans will have an easier time casting out Republicans in power or nominated for power for sexual impropriety, when Democrats do. It's not the same when you trade a former president with no power for a sitting president who is going to be in power for another 3 years and 11 days

>>1476177
>shit 30 years ago
nobody is defending Bill Clinton and you'll have a hard time finding leftists who do so, nobody is voting for him either
we have a pedo in chief right fucking now and that's the bigger problem

>>1476177
>allegations came out against candidate Biden from Tara Reade.
You mean the allegations she made, refused to provide any proof for, and then fucking defected to Russia alongside a friend who was a literal russian spy when challenged on?

>>1476177
>throw Bill Clinton out for his sexual impropriety
To be fair, the impeachment was not about his blowjob it was about him committing perjury while under oath, a federal crime.

Less than 10% of Americans want to militarily conquer Greenland. It's not even popular in Trump's base. Who the fuck does this saber-rattling appeal to? Why are there so many Trumpfags on 4chan who want to rape Greenland and other countries?

>>1476178
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_of_Bill_Clinton
It's actually pretty easy to find. There's a list of 200 Democrats members of the House of Representatives which voted Nay on impeaching Bill Clinton. Who wanted to keep Bill Clinton in power despite his sexual impropriety. Who defended him maintaining power by their Nay vote.
I can also find a list of 50 democrat senators who made the same decision on that same page

>>1476179
There is some contemporaneous evidence
https://youtu.be/bBTwwOHV6vQ

>>1476184
Retard he was impeached for lying under oath. If we held Trump to the same standard he'd be executed by this point, nevermind the pedo stuff.

>>1476184
"nobody *is* defending" implies present tense, as in present day leftists don't give two shits what happen to Clinton
You can keep talking about shit from 30 years ago and try to get people outraged that Clinton isn't a paragon of sexual restraint and chastity like Trump, but good luck trying.

>>1476183
Lot of joker-pilled bored, aimless, and nihilistic young people want WW3 as a fuck you to the human race.

So what resources does Trump want Greenland for again? Is it rare earths?

It's rare earths isn't it? Is his entire cabinet too retarded to tell him that the bottleneck is still refining it instead of mining it? Mining it was never that hard. I figured Bessent was at least smart enough to know that.

>>1476190
Bro, they just want to conquer places and play Hearts of Iron IV in real life. Look at Venezuela. The oil companies don't even want to drill there, as it'd be unprofitable.

>>1476191
You got to at least pretend you got something out of conquering a place, and any well informed person who listened to anyone in the mining industry in the past year can tell you that refining is the hardest part. Is it a huge problem if some of his more informed support-

oh that's right, the level of how well informed almost all of his supporters are

>>1476188
Well yes. Because Bill Clinton has no political power right now. So there's nothing to be lost by attacking him.
It's not the same when you trade a former president with no power for a sitting president who is going to be in power for another 3 years and 11 days.
Democrats seem to only defend Democrats when they are in power or they are the nominee. Cuomo was the governor who was going to save New York from COVID 19 until he lost power. Then he was a sex pest who would be condemned and insulted repeatedly by the people who voted for him and who gave speeches endorsing him and rallying for the public to vote for him.

>>1476193
>Democrats are bad cause they stopped supporting a bad candidate and gave a newer candidate their support in the most recent election
ok

>>1476193
>Democrats seem to only defend Democrats when they are in power
>Cuomo
Cuomo got told to step down by Joe Biden himself. Way to destroy your own argument dude.

>>1476194
don't forget that pedophilia and defending other pedophiles are fine as long as its your team and he's elected

>>1476196
but enough about Joe Biden

>>1476055
either is Israel, cope and seethe migatard

>>1476197
god you're esl

>>1476197
Biden told Cuomo to gtfo after Cuomo was found to be a sex pest. Try again.

>>1476058
The entire reason for the warhawking with Greenland and Canada is to distract from the very real aggression against places like Venezuela and Haiti. A country having a communist revolution leading to anything other than violence and destitution threatens the narrative that the wealthy elite of the US rely on to protect socially progressive groups from gaining a foothold in the homeland. No one has time to give half a shit about the US sending soldiers into countries time and time again to topple regimes and install their own in an effort to "save them from themselves" when they are busy pearl-clutching at vague threats and smoke being blown at white countries.

>>1476201
must've been getting in the way of his child sniffing

>>1476204
Creepy but not criminal. Tell me why Ghislaine Maxwell is in a more comfortable prison right now.

>>1476205
slick willy must've called in a favor

>>1476206
Wow Trump is so nice to his fellow Epstein associate. He didn't even prosecute Hillary like he promised to do while campaigning.

>>1476207
ironically these are all his friends from when he was rolling in democrat circles

>>1476209
and the GOP spent most of last year blocking those names from being released, isn't that weird.
the current GOP, the ones in power right now, not the current democrats, not the democrats of 30 years ago, the current sitting GOP in congress

>>1476211
everyone in the house and the senate voted to release the files with the exception being clay higgins who claims he had concerns about protecting victim identities.

>>1476194
But they didn't go after them when they had power. They voted against Clintons impeachment in 1998/1999

>>1476216
This was after Mike Johnson refused to swear in a legitimately elected representative cause she would be the tie breaking vote on the Epstein file release petition, right? Then after the petition was forced to go through, he changed his mind, isn't that weird?

>>1476217
why didn't biden release the epstein files?

>>1476217
but they did go after Cuomo when Cuomo had power, again the argument was defeated by itself

>>1476102
All of this is wrong.
trump is still a russian puppet.

Also if trump does attack Europe, they can just crash the US economy by liquidating the trillions in US debt they own.
If they did it 2 months to 90 days before the election it would all but ensure a democratic tsunami since even trump wouldn't be able to gaslight or manipulate out of the depression.

>>1476228
>All of this is wrong
prove it

>>1476099
Cool. How are they gonna reach US soil? Because I promise you: the countet whose refrigerator, bathtub, toilet, kitchen sink, cemetery, washing machine, and main source if drinking water are all THE SAME FUCKING RIVER is going to have to use Fed Ex.

Even ostensibly peer nations are mostly using America's leftovers for miltary equipment. And the shit they've made themselves us so many generations behind the USA a launch would be detected, countermeasures deployed, and a retailiatory strike launched while the E fucking U was still arguing about in commitee.

That's assuming any nation cognizant of how deeply their economy is tied into the US would even be willing to pull that trigger, as opossed to passing another sternly worded resolution. Which, surprise! NO ONE CARES ABOUT.

Need more evidence? What have all these "nuclear capable" countries been doing for the last five years? Is it: crying to big daddy America to come save them from scawy Wussia man while funding his war with their dependence on his oil?

Hate all you want. YOU eat KFC and McDs. YOU smoke American Spirit and Lucky Strike. YOU wear Nike, Adidas and Reebok. YOUR children build Iphones. And YOU speak English. You're doing it right now.

>>1476237
You think a year of economic pain after we decided to try and lord over the rest of the world would've taught retards the US can't survive with isolationism, but nope.

>>1476237
Damn bro did you just have a mental break?

>>1476239
anon has mastered the art of the schizo post indistinguishable from satire

>>1476084
America is 5% of the world's population. It's also a country that for all it's big guns and tech has a miserable success rate. We all watched them piss around in Afghanistan for a flipping decade before giving up in defeat. If the US actually tried to take Greenland it would at the minimum be the US vs all former NATO countries. They're obviously not going to invade the US themselves, but they will easily not be taken over and America no longer having any support at all from European nations will implode.

Personally I say bring it on and try.

>>1476238
>>1476239
>>1476240
>>1476254
Irrelevant ESL bitches pretended very hard they aren't malding. lol.

>>1476236
>proving a negative

>>1476259
I'm a Canadian who speaks far better English than your hillbilly shit talk. Please attack Greenland and keep talking about trying to take us over. 1812 pt 2 will be even more fun.

>>1476260
>refuting a positive claim is the same thing as proving a negative
Your brain on libtardation

>>1476264
Don't speak ill of libertarians, you pretend to be one to cover for your fascism.

>>1476262
First of all, America doesn't have to "take over" Canukistan. Your iwn federal government has shit over tge western provinces so hard there are Canadians suggesting seperating from Canada and joining the US. Really showing off your French heritage in how you run a country there.

Second, I don't know why YOU'RE bragging about the one good punch thrown by the other guys on your team in a war you ultimately lost, that took place before the industrial revolution, when America was a fraction of the size it is now. So yeah, I'm certain that 1812 pt 2 will he hilarious. Choke on some poutine syrup sucker.

>>1476278
>Thinking America could successfully occupy a country like Canada
They're just as corrupt as Russia and Russia can't even beat Ukraine, the poorest country in Europe.

>>1476280
Canada's government is doing a fine job of handing over its territory to an occupying force without us.

>>1476054
Venezuela ... Greenland ... not surprising. We took over Hawaii because we wanted their sugar cane. Not sure why we took over the Philippines, but they used to belong to us.

>>1476064
Are you genuinely this fucking stupid? Putin cares about Putin, not Russians.

>>1476285
I think advertising that retarded policefaggots can legally kill you turned that around
great timing with the greenland bribe announcements, too

>>1476290
Police have been legally killing people for all of history, retard.

>>1476291
It's America's world. The rest of us are just living in it.

>>1476202
>A country having a communist revolution leading to anything other than violence and destitution
Anon, Venezuela is literally that. I may be very much against invading people over dumb shit like this but don't pretend that Maduro and Chavez before him were anything but autocratic retards who snapped the economy over their knees.

>>1476292
>police announce they can murder people with impunity
>And if the person manages to survive, they'll get prosecuted instead of the cop
That's been going over well.

>>1476303
This but unironically

>>1476313
Only if you're a fascist. The first world aka not trump's America, REALLY doesn't like that.

>>1476316
We don't care what turd worlders think.

>>1476317
then why do you continue posting esl shill?

>>1476300
>don't pretend that Maduro and Chavez before him were anything but autocratic retards who snapped the economy over their knees
so you admit autocratic retards who snap the economy over their knees should be violently removed from office...

>>1476318
Don't reply to me if you have nothing to say, turdie.

>>1476323
it may be hackneyed at this point, but making fun of your esl faggotry is what i've always been here to proclaim, sorry bud

>>1476323
>signing your post on 4chan
yikes

>>1476324
You have only been posting here for a few months, turdie.

>>1476326
god you're esl

>>1476327
Please try to stay on topic, turdie.

>>1476331
Only you can stop turdies from low effort posting.

>>1476317
Is this why everyone is mocking and ignoring you?

>>1476358
>Everyone
No, we're all just watching your very boring trolling.

>>1476370
>>1476317
>we
LOL @ U

>>1476278
Ahh yes, I forgot that you're taught that a failed invasion where you didn't gain any of the territory you hoped and went home was somehow a victory.

As for the other point, your retard president flapping his maw about wanting to force Canada to join the US was seen as so disgusting to the vast majority of Canadians that it all but destroyed the conservative party that was supporting it. Outside of a couple pockets of Alberta, mentioning you think Canada should be part of the US is a fine way to get the shit kicked out of you here.

Please though, do try to take Greenland and us by force.

>>1476478
Yeah, yeah Marie, let them eat cake. Not beating the allegations there, Captain Canuck.

>>1476478
What, Candians aren't sold by US retards repeatedly shouting that its okay to murder citizens?

>>1476478
>Please though, do try to take Greenland and us by force.
Don't tempt them. Fascists love "might makes right" logic.

>>1476548
>Yeah, yeah Marie, let them eat cake.
I'm not sure what you think this phrase means, but it's not one you want to bring up when Trump is holding millionaire galas while the country starves.

>>1476553
>Fascists love "might makes right" logic.
No, they love when they're the might side of that.
They whine like little girls for years when you do it back to them

>>1476553
>Fascists love "might makes right" logic.
Tell me more about how COVID went bro
>no sorry you can't have a job or healthcare or access to a grocery store you didn't take this magical medicine that solves all your problems

>being so salty their previous employer fired them for being a plague rat that they'll be seething about it years later
It all happened under Trump, retard

>haha look at that we ruined their lives to satisfy our own moral values
>oh shit oh fuck what do you mean ICE shot a woman in public
>what do you MEAN they support it, that makes no sense!

>>1476559
Must have been in a coma. Biden is the one that forced employers to vaccinate or eat a bullet via osha.

>>1476566
>Biden is the one that forced employers
Wow, you want to quote the law on that one?

>>1476573
Nta but what's your game here? Denying easily verifiable truths just to waste anon's time and your own?

>>1476578
So you don't have any proof to back up your mental illness
Its okay, you can just keep pretending Biden forced companies to do this when it was really just businesses deciding to enforce this on their own

>>1476478
I'll always be amused at that because the 'liberals' were heading for a historical blowout but because trump kept saying he was going to illegally invade Canada and the far right conservative who was slatted to win decided it was good to commit treason and support trump, he somehow choked the election away since Canadian elections are still free and fair, unlike the US's.

>>1476579
No there's no way that companies would ever not want people to spread a highly infectious virus to their customers without the government forcing them to. Why would they not want to be associated with customers getting sick from retards because they visited their business?

>>1476579
>Executive Order 14043: Required all federal executive branch employees to be vaccinated against COVID-19, with exceptions only for medical or religious reasons (no option for regular testing instead). This applied to roughly 2-3 million civilian federal workers.

>Executive Order 14042: Directed federal contractors and subcontractors to implement COVID-19 safety protocols, which included requiring their employees to be fully vaccinated (again, no testing alternative for most cases).

>>1476589
So you're admitting that no private employers were affected.
Thanks for your concession. Now you just need to admit that Biden didn't get you fired during Covid, you got yourself fired for being a plague rat

>>1476590
>Biden also directed the Occupational Safety and Health Administration (OSHA) to issue an Emergency Temporary Standard (ETS) requiring private employers with 100 or more employees (affecting ~80 million workers) to mandate vaccination or weekly testing, with paid time off for vaccination/recovery. Separate rules applied to healthcare facilities receiving Medicare/Medicaid funding (requiring vaccination for staff) and programs like Head Start.

>>1476591
>mandate vaccination or weekly testing
So still no vaccine requirements for public employers
I'll accept your reinforced concession.

>>1476591
NTA, and this is why I didn't respond to that retard.
OSHA in 2021-22 was like ICE is today. They would sit outside businesses counting the number of people that didn't have masks and fining them into bankruptcy. God help you if you didn't carry those little gay cards showing vaccination history.

>>1476592
>Under President Biden's OSHA Emergency Temporary Standard (ETS) for COVID-19 vaccination and testing — issued in November 2021 and applicable to employers with 100 or more employees — employers were effectively allowed to fire employees who refused vaccination, but only if the employer chose a strict mandatory vaccination policy (with no testing alternative) and the employee did not qualify for a medical or religious exemption.

>>1476595
>only if the employer chose a strict mandatory vaccination policy (with no testing alternative) and the employee did not qualify for a medical or religious exemption.
lmao, are you going to keep digging all night, you salty faggot?
It was always an employer choice, I'm reveling in your continued concession and submission.

We wouldn't need Greenland if Biden hadn't fucked everything up. If you don't like liberating Greenland and Canada for their resources, blame the democrats. They forced Trump to do this.

>>1476597
>Prior to Biden's OSHA Emergency Temporary Standard (ETS) in November 2021, employers could not freely fire employees based solely on their medical history prior to . U.S. federal employment laws, primarily the Americans with Disabilities Act (ADA) (enforced by the EEOC), strictly limited when and how employers could use medical history or conditions as a basis for adverse actions like termination.

>>1476600
wow, so biden passed an executive order that made it legal to fire employees based on their vaccination history. which was previously illegal. which is exactly what anon claimed.

>>1476573 got btfo

>>1476600
So what I'm hearing is Biden did not force employees to vaccinate, there was no federal mandate to vaccinate, and employers were left open to decide to fire plague rats if they deemed necessary.
Thank you for your continued concession and submission. You'll be mocked more than usual when you bring up this bit of mental illness again in the future.

>>1476601
NTA but he literally all he did was make it legal, not force people to follow it.

>>1476602
except none of that is true and you just got btfo

>>1476605
>i lost so hard now I'm just disagreeing with reality
yawn
employers had an option to manually test if they wanted to keep unvaxxed employees
they were giving away tests for free too
I guess you were too shit to jump through a nonexistent hoop for

>>1476604
he forced employers under threat of fine.

>Serious violations — Up to $13,653 per violation (this was the most commonly cited figure for potential ETS non-compliance, as the rule addressed grave dangers to unvaccinated workers).
>Willful or repeated violations — Up to $136,532 per violation.
>OSHA could issue separate citations and penalties for each instance of non-compliance (e.g., per affected employee or per requirement violated, potentially leading to much higher totals for larger employers).

>>1476606
employers had the option to forego tests, which many did. it was biden's ETS that allowed employers to fire employees for their medical history. which is something you would have a problem with if you weren't subhuman

>>1476609
>employers were effectively allowed to fire employees who refused vaccination, but only if the employer chose a strict mandatory vaccination policy (with no testing alternative) and the employee did not qualify for a medical or religious exemption
You'll be both salty and wrong about this forever

>>1476610
prove that it's wrong. pro tip: you can't

>>1476611
You already proved I was right
I'm sure this was explained to you when you were fired.
Employers were given the option to keep unvaxxed employees if they were willing to test regularly. Yours didn't and chose to fire you instead.

>>1476612
see >>1476609

>>1476612
>Yours didn't and chose to fire you instead.
You don't see a problem with the government threatening someone to violate your bodily autonomy?
It was keen of you to omit how much an employer would be fined if they didn't comply with the mandates.

>>1476614
Maybe I missed it over your ignorant crygasm
There was a fee specifically for unvaxed employees?
I know there was one if they were unvaxxed or untested, but you're not talking about that one since you're just referring to vax status

>>1476614
>violate your bodily autonomy
i thought magafags chose to get rid of that to save imaginary babies

>>1476553
>Don't tempt them. Fascists love "might makes right" logic.

That's why I encourage it. A war with Europe would seal America's fate.

>>1476558
It's not that the vaccine is a magic medicine that solves everything, what it mainly does is make you less contagious if you do carry the virus so you don't infect as many people. You take it more to contribute to the welfare of society than for yourself personally.

>biden forced employees to accept the vax or get fired!
>but only to people biden employed
>but wait! he also forced employees to vax or get regularly tested!
>employers could choose to force all their employees to get vaxxed though, even though biden didn't force it
>but its still Bidens fault for enabling companies to fire workers who didn't get the vax if they commited to firing all their employees who didn't vax!
The punchline, in addition to just being wrong, is the MAGA retard complaining about not having comprehensive federal protection for workers, despite voting MAGA and chosing to dismantle the whole thing

>>1476615
>There was a fee specifically for unvaxed employees?
https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/21pdf/21a244_hgci.pdf
>Unvaccinated employees who do not comply with OSHA’s rule must be “removed from the workplace.” And employers who commit violations face hefty fines: up to $13,653 for a standard violation, and up to $136,532 for a willful one.
Employ
Imagine you run a small company of a hundred people. Ten of them refuse the vaccine and tests on a religious or ethical basis. That's ten violations unless you fire them, which amounts to -$1,365,320 per week.
Democrats supported this by the way.

>>1476619
>make you less contagious
Absolutely not true. The vaccines do not stop transmission.

>>1476623
>Imagine you run a small company of a hundred people. Ten of them refuse the vaccine and tests on a religious or ethical basis.
>>1476595
>>Under President Biden's OSHA Emergency Temporary Standard (ETS) for COVID-19 vaccination and testing — issued in November 2021 and applicable to employers with 100 or more employees — employers were effectively allowed to fire employees who refused vaccination, but only if the employer chose a strict mandatory vaccination policy (with no testing alternative) and the employee did not qualify for a medical or religious exemption
So the religious exemptions were fine.
'Ethical basis' was still fine as the guidelines allowed Employers to not have a strict mandatory policy and substitute it with regular testing.

So your example is horseshit, and you deserved to be fired because you believed shitty online memes instead of reality.

You continue to BTFO yourself, and I remain smug in continued rightness.

I'll accept your extended concession and humiliated submission.

>>1476626
you can keep coping but biden's mandate allowed employers to fire employees for their vaccine history. you were factually wrong and you're being pedantic to save face.

>>1476628
I'm imaging there's some poor worker at the unemployment office who had to explain this to you a few times when you weren't eligible for being a right wing moron.
And just like then, now you're whining and ignoring the facts after getting BTFO

>>1476629
notice that you can't refute the claim and keep coping.

>>1476631
Employers with over 100 employees were not required to have any of their employees vaxed
yes or no

>>1476632
They were granted immunity by biden to fire employees based on their medical history, yes.

>>1476633
silly shilly is having trouble answering basic questions

Employers with over 100 employees were not required to have any of their employees vaxed
yes or no

>>1476634
notice how you're running defense for something that was morally wrong and your only argument is pedantry

>>1476635
I'm noticing you know you're wrong and you're running from the truth.
Come on, its a simple yes or no question. Its easy to answer.

Employers with over 100 employees were not required to have any of their employees vaxed
yes or no

>>1476626
>So the religious exemptions were fine.
The exemptions were being handed out by the government. The same government that was literally telling the unvaxxed that they were plague rats and deserved to lose their livelihoods for the good of society.
>So your example is horseshit, and you deserved to be fired because you believed shitty online memes instead of reality.
You are a brainlet. The issue wasn't only the monetary damages and the lives ruined, it was the political will behind it.
Democrats looked at their neighbors and said "inject this experimental drug into your body because you make me feel unsafe". Which comes back to the issue of ICE shooting wokescold protestors in the face, which I absolutely do not care about.

>>1476636
The answer is yes, for employers that opted out of testing exceptions, their employees were forced to be vaccinated. hope that helps.

>>1476637
>Democrats looked at their neighbors and said "inject this experimental drug into your body because you make me feel unsafe".
Wow, that seems to imply some sort of federal mandate
So you'll be able to answer the very easy question

Employers with over 100 employees were not required to have any of their employees vaxed
yes or no

>>1476638
Thank you for engaging with reality and admitting that there was no federal mandate to vaccinate, and employers were not forced to fire unvaccinated employees.

>>1476641
were employees forced to be vaccinated under biden's ETS if their employer opted out of testing exceptions
yes or no?

>>1476642
no

Wait shit, I'm supposed to cry and whine and post irrelevant shit instead of immediately posting a correct answer

pedantic faggot btfo kek

>>1476644
see >>1476645

>>1476639
>Wow, that seems to imply some sort of federal mandate
Executive Orders are federal mandates, yes.

>>1476645
>>1476646
see >>1476641
You already lost, but feel free to celebrate losing
You actually lost more than that, since you were also rightfully fired for being a moron, lmao

>>1476650
Gonna celebrate the annexation of your country, fag.

>>1476650
you're just factually wrong. biden's mandate forced employees to be vaccinated if the employer opted out of exceptions. no amount of coping will change this fact.

>>1476651
>browns are going to annex America
omg, good thing we have a senile idiot to let you in

>>1476653
Canadian hands wrote this post.

>>1476652
>if the employer opted out of exception
you keep trying to pretend it wasn't the employers choice while stating it was every time

There's no reality where you're right on this

>>1476655
it was biden's mandate that allowed employers to fire employees based on this choice. faggoted pendantry can't save you from the truth

>>1476656
Remember this post >>1476641
You're backsliding, try to come back to reality
Your employer fired you for cause because you were a retarded faggot.
You have a chance to stop being a retarded faggot by recognizing reality.
Just step forward and admit Biden didn't hurt you

>>1476657
you got btfo. biden's mandate forced employees to be vaccinated if the employer opted out of exceptions. fact.

also i make way more money than you ever will and i work from home. and i never had to inject the homo vax like you. kek

This fucking board. A thread about Trump being retarded with Greenland devolves into bitching about vaccine mandates because you're all suicidal fucking retards.

>>1476658
>biden's mandate forced employees to be vaccinated if the employer opted out
lmao, its hilarious that you keep blaming biden for an employers choice

So a company independently made a requirement of all its employees
You refused to meet that requirement
The company rightfully terminated you
and you're still crying about it years later but blaming Biden instead of the company that created the requirement and fired you over it, despite the federal government allowing them to still employ you if you decided not to meet the requirement.

lmao, you're beyond BTFO

>>1476663
notice how you can't refute anything i said. and you never denied taking the homo vax.

kek he actually injected that shit.

>losing this hard
lmao

>>1476668
now that's what i call cope. post vaccine card faggot kek

Anyone who was actually talented and decided not to get vaxxed got exceptions from their companies, who were willing to jump through hoops to let those winners work remotely and test regularly to keep working while unvaxxed.
The retarded shill was so low worth that not only did they not get these exceptions, their employer wasn't even willing to let them test and just told them to fuck off
lmao, I bet they wanted to fire that loser for a while and were looking for cause

>ahhhh Biden-sama, please protect me from the companies wanting to fire me!

>>1476673
>got btfo on the facts
>actually took the homo vaccine
>is still coping
wow what a cuck. did you take the pfizer or the moderna kwab

>>1476674
>>got btfo on the facts
>>actually took the homo vaccine
>>is still coping
wait, if you got the vaccine then why were you fired?

>>1476675
>no u
truly the last resort of the vaxtard

>>1476675
they weren't, shills just big mad at getting BTFO

vaxtards catching clots itt kwab

>>1476673
>Anyone who was actually talented and decided not to get vaxxed got exceptions from their companies, who were willing to jump through hoops to let those winners work remotely and test regularly to keep working while unvaxxed.
>The retarded shill was so low worth that not only did they not get these exceptions, their employer wasn't even willing to let them test and just told them to fuck off
>lmao, I bet they wanted to fire that loser for a while and were looking for cause
silly shillys jimmies are so rustled they're reduced to facebook memes about vax status
this must have been absolutely true. what a loser

>>1476680
>he actually took the vax
good lil goy

>>1476681
You faggots were telling me that I'd be dead in a month. It's been five years.

>>1476699
he's a shill, he doesn't even believe his own lies

'I got the Pfizer' -Trump
Guess who's still alive to this day: even after a recent booster
Trump ordered Operation Warp Speed
Even Putin was vaccinated with Sputnik-V
All antivaxxtards more than BTFO. What's that, Covidiots? You're not? You can ask 1.3 million who thought their opinions were superior to those who thought otherwise, including Arnold Schwarzenegger in a video where - before he went into a drive-thru vaccination center - he said 'Come with me if you want to live'.
Oh yes, that's right: those 1.3 million Murrican't contraritards can't BTFO anyone else because they're dead due to being Covidiots. America is better off without those 1.3 million subhumans. That virus is still out there.
Ask yourselves why Trump said 'I got the Pfizer' and was boosted: certainly why he's still alive today, contraritards.

>>1476701
Did you get your free donut, goycattle?

>>1476708
Go catch measles with the rest of your kind.

>>1476715
Calm down anon. Wouldn't want your myocarditis acting up kek

>>1476720
Hey remember when you retards claimed everyone who got the vax would be dead in a few years?

>>1476722
>someone made some bullshit claim on the internet
Ironically thats the same reason you took the vax

>>1476726
Still waiting on that myocarditis. Or was it the monkey flu? Or a ruined immune system.

Sorry it's hard to keep track when you keep changing the reason why everyone who got vaccinated is totally gonna regret it when each subsequent one gets proven wrong.

>>1476720
Yeah right like your lard-ass is going to avoid heart disease.

>>1476728
Even if you manage to avoid the 9 pages worth of side effects, you still have to live with the knowledge that you bent over and took the vax like the good lil goycattle you are

>>1476728
Long-term side effects don't show up for decades anon.
Congrats on your heart not exploding. You still took a gamble with your own life because of peer pressure though. The consequences may not show up until way later.

>>1476732
>The vaccine you took a few doses of 4 years ago will eventually show side effects!
>Just you wait!
Lmao. All the material of the vaccine is out of people's bodies at this point. That's like saying I'm gonna get side effects from cough medicine I took when I was 10.

>>1476731
>>1476732
I love how you retards love to refer to the vaccine as long term gambling like covid doesn't also do that shit.

Tell me, how many of your buddies lost big like Herman Cain, or how many "just" wound up with the long term brain fog?

>>1476749
>he doesn't know
Rip anon. You had a good run

>>147675
The unvaxxed people I know are all perfectly healthy. The vaxxed people I know either died, had strokes, had pacemakers installed, or developed auto immune disorders

>>1476754
>It'll get you one of these days!
yeah and I'm sure you retards will comment this under every 85+ year old celebrity that was pro vax who dies for the next 30 years until a new measles variant you created claims you.

>>1476751
>I love how you retards love to refer to the vaccine as long term gambling like covid doesn't also do that shit.
COVID19 boosters have proven to reduce autoimmune efficiency by creating an immune tolerance to the virus and other diseases.
>how many of your buddies lost big like Herman Cain
How many of your buddies have ended up like Scott Adams?
You will never know because it is not in the interest of those who pressured you to take the vaccine. They would deny it even if you confronted them, just like you do now. Because to admit otherwise would mean they and you have made a terrible mistake.

>>1476757
Notice how you just cast aspersions instead of reconciling with the fact that you injected a junk medicine that doesn't even confer immunity

>>1476761
Worked just fine for me and everyone else who took it. Compare vaccinated vs unvaccinated death rates after the vaccine was introduced, then realize you fell for facebook memes and risked permanent raspatory and brain damage for nothing. Assuming you didn't already get the latter, of course.

>>1476763
You have a higher chance of catching myocarditis than conferring immunity from the vaccine.

>>1476765
you have a 100% chance of dying alone because you're literally employed as a shill

>>1476760
>COVID19 boosters have proven to reduce autoimmune efficiency by creating an immune tolerance to the virus and other diseases.
Yeah and I'm sure they also give the monkey flu, and they make your heart stop. And whatever other bullshit you got from one preliminary study that will inevitably fail to manifest just like the last one, because one or two studies doesn't actually prove causation.

>How many of your buddies have ended up like Scott Adams?
lmao. "Guys the covid vaccine gave Scott Adams his terminal ass cancer. Trust me bro there's no other possible reason for someone to develop cancer"

Like I said, you will literally be clutching at straws to link any and all illnesses suffered by anyone who got a shot as proof you were right for the rest of your life. There is literally nothing I can do to discredit your retarded beliefs more than your own actions will.

>>1476768
>because one or two studies doesn't actually prove causation.
I think of it like pascal's wager. I lose nothing by simply not submitting to peer pressure, whereas you have everything to lose because you did.

>>1476777
>I lose nothing by simply not submitting to peer pressure
Except for that pesky virus that's ACTUALLY been linked to long term health issues lmao.

>>1476779
The thing you have to understand is their wellbeing is literally worth nothing.

>>1476054
damn, look at that yuro thirdy seethe

You voted for Israel's bitch that was vaccinated, so you tell me, Bibi's bottom boy that is 1476708.
Damn, look at 1476788 the foreign shill turdy seethe.

>>1476842
>more brownoid yuro tranny thirdy seethe

>>1476054
This is stupid. You can already have bases there, this just fucks things up and makes US look bad.

>>1476924
a. why would we give a shit about what yuro thirdies think?
b. why should we pay for Greenland's defense?
c. trump wants the mineral and oil rights
d. trump isn't the first president to do this. truman did it and like 4 other presidents also did it

>>1476553
No one in America is starving. That's for countries run by Frogs. Might be why so much of Canada wants to stop being America's Hat and join the US.

>more seethe from 1476901 the indian tranny turdie

>>1476991
Nice point bro but you're poor so you don't count

>>1477430
you're literally a brown indian yuro

>1477617 the jeet is seething more

>>1477848
thanks for informing me that you are seething, jeet