> Thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOxNEMTENKQ> https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cwy15596p98oUS President Donald Trump has threatened to invoke the rarely used Insurrection Act to quell unrest over federal immigration enforcement operations in Minneapolis.He threatened to send in troops following a night of protests and vandalism in the Minnesota city after an agent shot a man in the leg.The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) said an officer opened fire after he was attacked by three Venezuelan nationals with a shovel and broom handle.Tensions have been running high in Minneapolis since an immigration agent fatally shot Renee Nicole Good, 37, last week, sparking nationwide protests.The Insurrection Act is a 19th Century law that allows active-duty military personnel to be deployed for law enforcement duties inside the US.Trump has previously said he might invoke the 1807 law elsewhere without ever doing so.The president posted on Truth Social that he would use the law if Minnesota officials failed to stop the "professional agitators and insurrectionists".DHS said Wednesday's shooting occurred after a car chase involving a Venezuelan national, Julio Cesar Sosa-Celis, who was previously convicted for driving without a licence.The agency statement said after the pursuit, Sosa-Celis got out of his vehicle and fought with the federal agent.Two more migrants from Venezuela who entered the country illegally, Alfredo Alejandro Ajorna and Gabriel Alejandro Hernandez-Ledezma, came out of a nearby apartment, according to the agency.All three attacked the law enforcement officer with a snow shovel and broom handle, DHS said, before the agent opened fire, hitting Sosa-Celis in the leg.The agent was taken to hospital. Sosa-Celis was also taken to hospital with non-life threatening injuries. All three Venezuelans were arrested.
>>1478320"What we saw last night in Minneapolis was an attempted murder of federal law enforcement," said DHS Secretary Kristi Noem.She said the officer was "ambushed and attacked" by the men and fired a defensive shot.On Wednesday night, clashes broke out between protesters and law enforcement in the Hawthorne area of Minneapolis, near the scene of the shooting.City police chief Brian O'Hara said his officers were hit by fireworks, ice and snowballs.Several vehicles belonging to the federal government were damaged in the disorder, and property was stolen from inside the vehicles, according to the FBI.The FBI said on Thursday that it was offering a reward of up to $100,000 for information leading to the "recovery of stolen government property and/or the arrest of individuals responsible for the destruction and theft of government property".Around 3,000 federal officers have been deployed to Minnesota in recent weeks.Minneapolis Mayor Jacob Frey, who has demanded ICE leave the city, said on X on Wednesday: "No matter what led up to this incident, the situation we are seeing in our city is not sustainable."Minnesota Governor Tim Walz, a Democrat, made a direct appeal to the president on Thursday posting on X: "Let's turn the temperature down."Walz, who has previously called ICE a "modern-day Gestapo", told Minnesotans: "We cannot fan the flames of chaos."The Democratic governor, who ran for US vice-president alongside Kamala Harris in the 2024 election, said earlier this month he would end his bid for re-election.The move came in the wake of a fraud scandal involving the state's welfare programmes.
>>1478321Trump has said Operation Metro Surge will continue in Minnesota after a federal judge on Wednesday denied Minnesota prosecutors a temporary restraining order against US Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).Tensions over immigration enforcement have been running high in the city since the fatal shooting on 7 January of 37-year-old Renee Nicole Good by an ICE agent.The Trump administration says the ICE agent acted in self-defence, while local officials argue the woman posed no danger.Videos of the incident show ICE agents approaching a car, which is in the middle of the street.As Good turns her wheel and appears to make an attempt to drive off, her car pulls forward and one of the agents near the front of the vehicle points his gun at the driver and fires three shots. The FBI is investigating the incident.An online fundraiser set up for Good's widow and family has raised more than $1.4m. Another online fundraiser for Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent at the centre of the deadly confrontation, has raised $740,000.>fin
>>1478320Good. Now do this to every sanctuary city.
>>1478331>Good. Now do this to every sanctuary city.(except Miami, or any city in a red state)nice try.
>>1478361Is it weird that all the cases of ICE agents being attacked are all unrecorded? Any recordings that we see are always of ICE just murdering or attacking citizens unprovokedIts very clever of Libs to have tricked Trump into not allowing ICE to have body cameras
Looks like the civil war is really happening huh?
>>1478458if he brings real, trained troops in they'll get in the way of the dregs of society he's designated as his brownshirts. it'll be a few years of atrocities followed by eventual legal retribution for said atrocities
>>1478461>followed by eventual legal retribution....from who?? The dems? They're clowns, they didn't prosecute afte Jan 6 they're not doing it after 2028. The left and progressives are the only ones that would ever try to prosecute and they have MAYBE 3 relevant leaders among them with the balls to do anything.
>>1478485just wait until trump starts targeting politicians and you'll see the fire get lit under their asses
>>1478485>Please ignore the surge of progressives gaining popularity and how absolutely pissed the dem voter base is at their inactivityTick tock.
>>1478495>Tick tock.>implying shills like Newsom aren't leading everything
>>1478503No one's getting elected without dismantling ICE day 1. It's gonna be the dem equivaling to Trump's January 6er pardons.
>>1478320Jonathan Ross's wife is a Filipinahttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15447739/ICE-shooter-Filipina-wife-father-Minneapolis.htmlWhat's her immigration status, race mixer Ross?What's the First Whore's immigration status, Trump: with your anchor baby Barron?
>>1478495>>1478503Kamala is leading in the polls. Progressives underestimate how dedicated shitlibs are to being retarded
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>>1478505>No one's getting elected without dismantling ICE day 1.loldems offered to give MORE funding to ICE if they'd promise to get training
>>1478510>Kamalalike i said, shills like newsom
>trump says he's going to just be a dictator>meanwhile trump shills are still deflectingWhy aren't you just embracing being fascists? Authoritarianism is the natural form of conservatism which trump has proven time and again.
>>1478527I dunno. It's probably the intense double standard you fags exhibit for conservatism.Obama and Biden did the same shit Trump is doing but none of you were fomenting riots or doxxing ICE agents. It was only until Trump was in office that he became literally hitler and you started doing this shit. Almost like you're a tool of the state trying to act as controlled opposition or something.
>>1478505I heard the same thing about defund the police.
>>1478609>Obama and Biden did the same shit Trump is doing but none of you were fomenting riots or doxxing ICE agentsNo they didn't. ICE existed under them but they weren't murdering people in broad daylight and had a budget bigger than some individual military branches.
>>1478609I asked the same question. You saw anti war protests against Bush. No blood for oil. Burning effigies of BushWhen the US started bombing Libya, none of the Iraq War protestors were in the street. They didn't seem to have a problem with it
>>1478616there's never been a single ice agent ever convicted of murder
>>1478618Yeah and that's the problem. They abuse, brutalize, and kill people and get shielded from any charges. At least cops get suspended when there's an officer involved shooting.
>>1478616Obama and Biden both deported more immigrants than Trump. That's a fact. And at no point did a George Foid try to body a federal officer with her vehicle.
>>1478618>trump isn't a pedophile rapist because he hasn't been convicted of raping children yet
>>1478620>Obama and Biden both deported more immigrants than Trump. That's a factSo why the fuck did we 10x ICE's budget and give them authority to terrorize entire communities for days on end? They weren't pulling any of the shit they're doing now and you're saying they did BETTER before?
>>1478623>So why the fuck did we 10x ICE's budget and give them authority to terrorize entire communities for days on end?Because it wasn't enough to deport all the illegals in the country. You say "terrorize entire communities" as if all of these communities are legal, law-abiding citizens. Many of them are multi-generational households filled with illegals who don't belong here.
>>1478624>multi-generational householdsso, american citizensbecause birthright citizenship has always been a thing
>>1478625>because birthright citizenship has always been a thingSCOTUS is going to disagree with you on that point.
>>1478626Unless they want to declare part of the constitution invalid, something they cannot do btw, no they can't. It's pretty black and white on birthright citizenship.
>>1478627SCOTUS rulings are retroactive. They don't issue new laws, they say that this is how the law was always meant to be interpreted.
>>1478626Thank you for your concessiongo sit in the corner, retard
>>1478628>All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.Please tell me how they can interpret this otherwise.>Well uh, it says born but uh it totally meant only if their parents were born here too
>>1478626Birth right citizenship was only a thing after the civil war.The statute is not about illegal aliens and anchor babies. The constitutional amendment is about not denying the rights of emancipated slaves.
>>1478625That they can get citizenship that way is another major issue and one of the biggest reasons for the need to ramp up deportations
>>1478631Sucks to suck but "ALL PERSONS BORN" is a pretty fucking definitive wording. You don't wanna start these games by the way; applying "but it was actually about x" means the same can be applied to the second amendment to only have it cover flintlocks.
>>1478619>>1478621>the murders were real in my mind!!!
>>1478635You've forgotten that America was initially intended to be a white (English) christian nation. And that the framers literally said they wanted a white christian nation. >to only have it cover flintlocksAnon, they were using warships used by private citizens. Don't be retarded.
>>1478638>You've forgotten that America was initially intended to be a white (English) christian nation. And that the framers literally said they wanted a white christian nation.Wow so surely this is codified somewhere in the law? Otherwise we just have your headcanon about a bunch of skeletons.
>>1478635>You don't wanna start these games by the way; applying "but it was actually about x" means the same can be applied to the second amendment to only have it cover flintlocks.Did the people who wrote it say that? The people who wrote the 14th amendment said that it wasn't meant to be a common path to citizenship to make an invasion of foreigners easier>>1478639The founders explicitly stated it and prevented anyone else from being naturalized citizens, so we know that was their intent. Intent is the argument here. You're arguing that loopholes are how everything should work.
Your country lost its peace
>>1478639>Wow so surely this is codified somewhere in the law?The Naturalization Act of 1790.>https://archive.org/details/increasemankind00franrich/page/10/mode/2upRead the last paragraph on the very last page. It was written by Benjamin Franklin.
>>1478644Yeah there are multiple Naturalization Acts succeeding this one, including the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952. This is also completely annihilated by the 14th amendment, and since the constitution overrides congressional laws, you're shit out of luck.
>>1478640>Intent is the argument here.Intent from a bunch of ghosts doesn't matter. Does it say it in the constitution? Yes or no?Again, please play this game. It'll be really fun to deconstruct that the 2nd amendment was only intended for keeping the US without a standing army and only applies to weapons of the time.
>>1478649What does the Constitution matter if you intentionally ignore what it aimed to do?>Again, please play this game. It'll be really fun to deconstruct that the 2nd amendment was only intended for keeping the US without a standing army and only applies to weapons of the time.As I said, feel free to dig up the quotations by its authors to make this argument
>>1478652>What does the Constitution matter if you intentionally ignore what it aimed to do?I actually think having to decide all our laws based on the theoretical opinion of a bunch of dead guys from the 1700s is a terrible system of government. And ironically those dead guys agreed because it is instead based on what is added and kept in the constitution by the will of the people, so go pound sand because their input no longer matters.
>>1478638It was meant to be a bastion of enlightened freedom in the world. Even the Founding Fathers were open to 'Mahometans' and 'Gentoos' living here. https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/0205/tolerance.html
>>1478655>I actually think having to decide all our laws based on the theoretical opinion of a bunch of dead guys from the 1700s is a terrible system of governmentThen you've chosen the wrong country to live in>And ironically those dead guys agreed because it is instead based on what is added and kept in the constitution by the will of the peopleYour argument so far has been that the will of the people doesn't matter, that destructive loopholes should be honored above the actual intended effects of the law. The will of the people-- Americans-- is mass deportation and strict limits on immigration
>>1478656>Even the Founding Fathers were open to 'Mahometans' and 'Gentoos' living here. As far as the religion. Not the ethnic groups you normally associate with those religions.
>>1478657>The will of the people-- Americans-- is mass deportation and strict limits on immigrationSo get congress to pass an amendment to the constitution. Until that happens, will is that "ALL people born" in the US are citizens.
>>1478657>Then you've chosen the wrong country to live inI like how you're now admitting you've basically degenerated into a cult worshipping the founding fathers even when those same founding fathers wrote it into law that the constitution is a living document that will change with the times and will of the american people.
>>1478648>Yeah there are multiple Naturalization Acts succeeding this oneOkay. Then you shouldn't make appeals to how "shit always was", because the framers actually penned the US Constitution. If you want illegals in the country then just say that.
>>1478663Your literal only "evidence" was a single long outdated and replaced law. As it stands right now, there is not a single scrap of your fanfic in law.
>>1478661>Until that happens, will is that "ALL people born" in the US are citizens.A sentiment that went against the will of the people, which is why the authors of the amendment were cautious about passing it. The idea of non-white foreigners using it en masse came up during the Congressional debates, where everyone agreed that this would be a bad thing, only most at the time felt it was too unlikely to worry about. Now we're dealing with it.>>1478662 >even when those same founding fathers wrote it into law that the constitution is a living document that will change with the times and will of the american people.Ironically, "the american people" has, itself, changed, against the will of the original American People. White people have voted majority Republican, anti-immigration, for as long as voting data has been broken down by race. The idea of mass illegal immigration, and then the offspring of those illegal immigrants becoming American citizens with full rights, is blatantly against the will of the people, if "the people" means anything.
>>1478666Sucks to suck. The 14th amendment stands and not even the most corrupt SCOTUS can change that.
>>1478667>will of the people>sucks to suckI interpret this as you just disagreeing from any angle you can with no underlying principle.Time will tell what happens with birthright citizenship. If separate but equal could be overturned (after already being declared constitutional), then anything is possible.
>>1478670>If separate but equal could be overturned (after already being declared constitutional)It was declared contrary to the base constitutional rights retard. The 14th amendment is black and white on birthright citizenship. Either get the votes to ratify a change or fuck off. No one cares about your cult.
>>1478671>It was declared contrary to the base constitutional rightsThough it isn't, as Plessy v Ferguson decided. It was overturned decades later primarily due to an emotional appeal, where a psychological study was presented as evidence that black children felt inferior to white children, leading the court to change the law for a perceived social benefit, not because the law violated peoples' Constitutional rights. That's the power of the Supreme Court.
>>1478675>uhhh uhh it was just an emotional decision!Try not to have too much of a meltdown when ever this SCOTUS tells you to fuck off.
>>1478679Well, it was. The research showing that black children preferred playing with white dolls instead of black dolls was a huge factor in the court's decision. Of course, after integration, repeated tests show that black children still prefer to play with white dolls over black dolls, but now that's just another mistake to learn from.
>>1478664>Your literal only "evidence" was a single long outdated and replaced lawAnd the explicit words of the founding fathers, the absolute authority on the founding document of the United States.
>>1478320Liberals probably understand now why conservatives want to keep their guns.
>>1478684>And the explicit words of the founding fathers, the absolute authority on the founding document of the United States.Alright so go have them argue their case to the Supreme Court.
>>1478701Why? So the single black woman on the bench can say "I don't understand"?
>>1478320go ahead it went fine in canada so trump is really slow on this. would've saved alot of time and effort
1478624>households filled with illegals who don't belong hereBut enough about the First Whore and her anchor baby Barron in the White House.The duality of the rightard hypocrite.
>>1478320Is that from Indiana Jones and the Temple of LGBT?
>>1478666Wow you even have the evil lying numbers to go with your stupid faggot post. Good job retard.
>>1478900Well, your post is simply a troll post. >He found the two stars with 5 points for this?>Then he wiped the sneezes off his laptop so he could fine the two empty shapes to post this crapOr you have a 4chan pass, which might even be worse, considering you hate the website and it's users.
>>1478723You making fun of Katana BoJackson?How dare you, sir.
>>1478903can you satisfy your humiliation fetish on a NSFW board please
>>1478903You can't be mad that your such a massive loser and liar. You brought it in yourself clown.
>>1478900Have you really been reduced to shouting "you're evil!"? Rethink your position
>>1479067You realize you will have to face the wall eventually right? Do the right thing and go paint your ceiling. Preferably in front of any family still sad enough to talk to you.
>>1478320He always says that.
