>>1487580
And the victims of that crisis - Republican voters - are already getting their revenge: first Miami, then Texas, now Louisiana. The latter with a massive swing to the Democrats.
Total MAGA Death is already happening. And you voted for your own destruction, cultists. Good

>>1487581
We'll see how much more they put up with.

Prices are expected to continue to rise by 3-4% on average over the next 6-8 months. Most families can't keep up right now. More costs will bankrupt them.

Of course, bankruptcies are at record highs under Trump

>>1487581
>Total MAGA Death
Let me translate this for everyone.

What these people really mean is:
>Total White Death

>>1487597
>Prices are expected to continue to rise by 3-4% on average over the next 6-8 months.
I'm glad he was able to successfully reduce bidenflation by 50-70%

>>1487606
>Trump pardons a Latin American drug lord
but, but he was white on the inside!
>ICE shoots a white man
but, but he was black on the inside!

>>1487606
>pro white genocide party promises not to continue genociding whites if you vote MAGA 2026
no, Democrats will stop ICE's white genocide and there's nothing you can do about it

What >>1487606 should say:
>Total White Rightard Death
Because white Republicans want an orange subhuman to be politically destroyed, along with its subhuman cultists. As proved by white Republicans voting for Democrats.
And as proved by Louisiana, along with Texas & Miami, it's going to happen. By allowing that orange subhuman to politically exist, you voted for your own destruction, inferior subhuman white rightards.
>Total MAGA Death
It actually means Total White Rightard Death. Good

>>1487636
Take your meds

>oh no, I can't counter what someone says! I'm reduced to replying - which you can't spell without the word Lying - 'Take your meds'!
>>1487637's jimmies status: Rustled

>>1487617
>Worldwide postCOVID phenomenon
>B-b-b-biden!

>>1487652
Japan had no inflation during covid

>>1487617
Good post

>>1487580
I just going to say it: Affordability is a meme that is destroying our country. All voters scream for us cheap stuff nonstop and it's making both sides of politics insufferable.

Living in a first world nation isn't cheap. Sorry. I know that's hard to get through your head but it's true. Prices are never going down either. Anyone who tells you otherwise is grifting you. That's just not how inflation works.

>>1487657
Kek.

Affordability means a working adult can survive (food, rent, car) easily. It wasn't long ago that that was possible.

Trump destroyed it for his jew pals.

>>1487657
You sound like a landlord
Land reform is coming to the US whether you like it or not

>>1487654
>There are 4 types of economies: developed, underdeveloped, Japan, and Argentina
Japan doesn't have a normal economy, and for 3 decades their biggest problem has been deflation. Of course they didn't have a typical response. Now, do you have a point, or just believe that pointing out exceptions means something?

>>1487657
It really is. Like if we scare away all the billionaires who is going to employ us? We should be eternally grateful that they even allow us to hold 10% of the country’s wealth

>>1487657
>Just accept that you will afford nothing and be happy
Yeah the end point of this is either
>A: Things get cheaper
>B: The rich and powerful start getting lynched
There is literally no other option. At the end of the day it is either that life is affordable or people will depose those blocking it from happening because the alternative is death.

>>1487617
Are you retarded?

>>1487693
Things never get cheaper due to inflation. So you're unironically suggesting lynching people because you want their money.

>>1487606
Liberals and leftists will be spared. White trash, miggerrs and Christ cucks get the rope

>>1487709
>Things never get cheaper due to inflation
They do when the economy crashes. Which is bad for everyone obviously, but vastly preferred to the alternative which is basically a societal collapse.

>>1487711
if the economy crashes then there will be societal collapse as a direct consequence.
Don't buy into the communist rhetoric. You can live a decent life if you make wise decision, which communists are incapable of doing.

>>1487711
When ever, in the history of the entire world, has societal collapse not coincided with that societies economic collapse

>>1487713
>>1487717
Oh wow forgive me; I didn't realize the great depression actually ended the United States and we currently live in some weird sequel country to it.

>>1487719
>; I didn't realize the great depression actually ended the United States
You have no understanding of logical statements do you?

I implied that societal collapse always coincides with that societies economic collapse

Your statement was illogical and does not follow my statement via modus ponens. You used the converse form, not the contrapositive form

Let me really dumb down your fallacy for you.

Imagine I had just said "all rainy days are cloudy". You replied with the equivalent of saying "well here's a day that's cloudy, but it wasn't rainy so you are wrong"

And that's why you are a retard.

Read a book. Google "contrapositive" because that's really what you were looking for here

>>1487713
That's why society collapsed in 2008 and 2020

>>1487727
>Imagine I had just said "all rainy days are cloudy". You replied with the equivalent of saying "well here's a day that's cloudy, but it wasn't rainy so you are wrong"
No, you're the one claiming that "all cloudy days are rainy". It is entirely possible to have an economic crash without a societal collapse, as we've seen in the occasions where we HAVE had an economic crash and the US didn't fucking dissolve into anarchy.

>>1487734
Uneducated folk, let me break it down for you.

Let's say:
A=societal collapse
B=economic collapse

My claim:
"All instances of societal collapse coincide with economic collapse"
Logically: A then B
Plain English: if societal collapse, then economic collapse

Your logically inconsistent rebuttal:
"I didn't realize the great depression actually ended the United States"
Logically: B did not cause A

That's called Converse form and it's logically inconsistent, that's why you are a retard. You don't understand this and I need to explain it to you


Seriously bro, go back to high school and learn some basic critical thinking or something because you aren't very smart, this is basic high school shit


Here's something to help you out.
Read a book
https://k12.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Mathematics/Geometry/02:_Reasoning_and_Proof/2.12:_Converse_Inverse_and_Contrapositive_Statements

>>1487744
Hey, brainlet. The original claim was that an affordability crisis will result in either an economic crash or a societal collapse. You're so busy jerking yourself off you forgot to actually read more than 2 posts.

>>1487744
Reminder:
>if the economy crashes then there will be societal collapse as a direct consequence.
Which, per your own fucking summary, is alleging "If B, then A".

>>1487749
>you forgot to actually read more than 2 posts.
Apparently that's all it took to mathematically prove you are a retard lacking the equivalent of an American high school education lmao

>>1487755
See >>1487753, brainlet. Context is important. You might actually see it if you pull your head out of your ass.

>>1487753
Oh I see.
I didn't say that. I made the post after it
If you want to argue with that person go ahead and reply to them
Cheers!

>>1487760
>Oh whoops I'm retarded and couldn't read
Yes, yes you are anon.

>>1487744
>My claim:
>"All instances of societal collapse coincide with economic collapse"
>Logically: A then B
>Plain English: if societal collapse, then economic collapse
No. Coincide means A AND B
Plain English: Societal collapse happens at the same time as economic collapse

>>1487771
>Plain English: Societal collapse happens at the same time as economic collapse
Do you need a fucking venn diagram you retard? That's "if A then B", exactly what I said
"If societal collapse is true, then economic collapse must also be true"

Are you fucking retarded?

>>1487657
As Louisiana going to the Democrats - via Republican voters there getting their revenge on Trump - proves, Affordability means this: can MAGAts afford to continue to exist with the way - and speed - that those financially suffering last year and beyond are turning against their orange Caesar?
How long before the final blue electoral dagger is plunged into that orange thing, and the only thing you can say is 'Et Tu, Republicans?' It'll be the last thing you'll be able to say after the midterms.
Can cultists afford to have wrong opinions after Republican voters in Miami, Texas, and now Louisiana have become sane - thus they won't be the only ones between now and said midterms - and via their vengeance voting will make you suffer even more.

*looks at thread*
*munches popcorn*

>>1487771
:^)
https://litter.catbox.moe/ay005e.png

>>1487794
If I made the statement
"During World War 1, Ration shortages coincided with Ammunition shortages for soldiers on the front"
Would that be a statement that says the shortage of rations caused the shortage of ammunition? And you would explain to me that it only addresses the converse form of the argument and not the additional claim.
While I am trying to tell you I understand the word "Coincide" to mean "Simultaneous" as in, happening at the same time. So my statement
During World War 1, Ration shortages coincided with Ammunition shortages for soldiers on the front
Would not mean that Ration Shortages or Ammunition shortages caused each other, only that they were experienced by soldiers on the front simultaneously

>>1487798
>Ration shortages coincided with Ammunition shortages for soldiers on the front"
>Would that be a statement that says the shortage of rations caused the shortage of ammunition?
>Would that be a statement that says the shortage of rations caused the shortage of ammunition
The original claim would mean that if there were ration shortages, then where were ammunition shortages.

It doesn't necessarily imply one is the actual cause of the other, only that if there were ration shortages, there were food shortages, and I have no idea where you're pulling this out of your ass from like I said it at all I didn't.

>While I am trying to tell you I understand the word "Coincide" to mean "Simultaneous" as in, happening at the same time.
Precisely.
Now you get it.
Please re-read my above statement so it sinks in

I literally dont know where you are getting the whole causality relationship from with A and B. If A then B does not mean A is the direct cause of B, only that if A is true, then B is also true. You are inventing this whole causality thing yourself because I don't think you're very familiar with this topic.

Tldr;
My argument this entire time is that "societal downfall coincides with that societies economic downfall".
Everything you've said literally backs up exactly what I said.

Ration shortages coincide with ammunition shortages. True.
Ration shortages must be the cause of ammunition shortages. Not true.
Ammunition shortages must be the cause of ration shortages. Not true.

Societal collapse coincides with that societies economic collapse. True
Societal collapse must be the cause of economic collapse. Not true.
Economic collapse must be the cause of societal collapse. Not true.

>>1487798
Look, I'm getting tired of trying to make an uneducated folk like you understand 12th grade high school material, so I'll make it easy for you.

My claim: "societal collapse coincides with that societies economic collapse"

To disprove it you must show a single tire instance of the following (this is known as the contrapositive form):
1. An instance where a society collapsed but their economy did not

>>1487711
>>1487713
I'm going to ignore all the dumb shit between you two and get back to the beginning at these two comments

>>1487711
>>>Things never get cheaper due to inflation
>They do when the economy crashes.
This is generally true.
>Which is bad for everyone obviously, but vastly preferred to the alternative which is basically a societal collapse.
This is where the trouble began. Rhetorically I get the point - economic collapse is bad, social collapse is worse. But the poor wording opened up this can of worms.

>>1487713
>if the economy crashes then there will be societal collapse as a direct consequence.
Here we go off the rails, because that's just flat wrong. Economies crash all the time without societal collapse following. I get that this anon read the first comment as an either/or, but it wasn't. And ever since then you two have been talking past each other.

So:
Economic collapses happen sometimes
Social collapses happen sometimes.
Economic collapses usually occur without coinciding with social collapse.
Social collapse pretty much always includes an economic collapse.

Any who agree with just those four statements, say Aye and/or move the fuck on.

>>1487802

Alice: "societal collapse coincides with that societies economic collapse"
Bob: "False! The great depression didn't coincide with the collapse of America!"

Alice: "rain coincides with cloudy days"
Bob: "False! Today is cloudy but it didn't rain!"

Make sense?

Once the average voter realizes they're in a class war and to stop getting distracted by 'communism' and 'socialism' the good guys will win.

You already saw slight cracks caused by Mamdani.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICroxl2r1B8

I'm not replying to either of those guys, because I never took predicated logic, and the great depression did collapse society (the new deal was a effectively total social reorganization and wealth distribution) but i do have to chime in say something:
Society is collapsing, and the economy is collapsing.
I'm not stoked. I don't want to see people suffer anymore and it hurts my soul to watch people struggling and hungry. This sucks.

>>1487581
the sad part of the story is that democrats won't be the saving grace either.

>>1487811
>Economies crash all the time without societal collapse following.
Economies are what structure modern society. An economic crash results in the breakdown of social norms and state institutions.

The Great Depression counterargument is retarded because it glosses over all the depraved shit people did to survive during that time period, e.g take life insurance policies on strangers, kill them, and make it look like an accident to collect the insurance money.

>>1487580
>The affordability crisis in the United States reflects a systemic issue in which the
democrats want to win an election after fucking up the economy and are attempting to rewrite history by blaming their economic policy failures on dRimpf.

>>1487852
God you're esl

>>1487846
This is exactly why shareholders, board members, and CEOs should be legally punished for making decisions that are financially harmful to the citizen and the consumer. In the great depression, CEOs threw themselves from balconies because they were afraid of the legal repercussions of plunging the world into a dark age. It turns out, there are no legal repercussions for creating bubbles with people's wealth just to explode them and fire everybody, before rinsing and repeating. Because stopping them from their legal right to fuck millions of people over is gommunism.

>>1487844
I'm glad that Republicans are saving America from MAGA by voting Democrat in Miami, Texas & Louisiana. And they won't be the only ones vengeance voting against Trump between now & the midterms, thus gracing America with a Democrat administration in 2029.
Total MAGA Death and the political destruction of Trump, that''s the sad part of the story: but only for inferior subhuman white rightards. Good

>>1487580
Oh look, ANOTHER thread. Once again, let me know when gas prices get to Biden-levels before I'll give a fuck.

Now go ahead and make 10 more of these same, exact threads.

>>1487864
>Guys until gas prices are up I don't care how big my grocery bill gets
Thanks for exposing yourself as financially illiterate anon.

>>1487865
>I don't care how big my grocery bill gets
>implying

>>1487866
It's about the same. You know we voted Biden out over a year ago, right?

>>1487866
Went up around $400 in 2025 and based on the gloomy outlook for 2026 I expect them to go up another $400.

Trump is not making things more affordable like he campaigned on.

>>1487864
>let me know
Republican voters in Miami, Texas & Louisiana already have. And they don't give a fuck about your feelings, seething cultist with BDS.
The Trumptard-triggering threads will continue until opinions improve.

>>1487871
Who is the last president you remember lowering prices?
I can't remember the last period of deflation

>>1487885
Sure but there tends to be periods of economic improvement, during which WAGES rise or other costs (insurance, electricity, mortgages) decrease which help cover the burden of increased costs of food and other luxuries like clothing.

>>1487666
>>1487667
>>1487691
>>1487693
You're just entitled. In fact things are event CHEAPER than they should be because we're running the national credit card and pushing for unsustainable systems that satisfy you. I know this is hard redpill, but the problem isn't the prices. It's that the American expected lifestyle is arguably impossible for 95% of the globe, the systems built off it are destroying your life and short term "affordability" policies that make life a nightmare for the next generation.


I know this is a hard redpill but we really do just need to live simpler and cheaper. Sorry. I know you want to blame billionaires, Jewish people or the opposite side of your intellectually dishonest worldview, but it's time to grow up and actually think of real solutions to complicated problems. Maybe actually read some boring, but informative material and then actually have insight worth saying.

Anyways, I'ma dip. You guys are losers lol

Holy fuck it's scary out there.
Best of luck anons.

>>1487911
This fucking bootlicking bullshit. k Shaped economy. Massive wealth misalignment. Richer are richer than ever pushing towards trillions. Middle class worse off then ever. And this mother fucker telling us we are the problem. The rich massing wealth more than ever in history, prices skyrocketing while Trump enriched himself by 4 billion dollars in 1 year. But we have too high expectations for our lives. We should all live poorer with less so the rich can collect more. Fuck you and every oligarch bootlicker like you. EAT THE RICH.

>>1487911
>You're just entitled.
Might makes right. Theres billions of more poor on this earth than there are rich and because of that the common people have no obligation to go hungry or pay more money for basic necessities if they don't want to. It really is as simple as that.

If the wealthy are entitled to use their wealth to shape the world around them to their own benefit, they only have themselves to blame when they push it too far and get eaten in turn.

>>1487911
Sure dude normal people having reasonable expectations are the problem, NOT billionaires. Your argument might at least be consistent if you could blame them too. Your position is totally transparent and the fact that you even feel the need to post this take shows that people who agree with you are starting to get afraid. So please keep fueling the fire.

>>1487911
More than one thing can be true at a time. You're missing that the cost of living crisis is called that because it specifically afflicts the necessities people need to get by, like food and housing, while discretionary goods have become cheaper by contrast.

I helped deal with some old stuff wrapped in newspapers from the 70s, and kept some of the paper. You know how much a stereo marketed as the budget option cost back then? 80 bucks. You know how much a decent bluetooth speaker costs now? 40 bucks. Meanwhile rent in the same place, not particularly near a major city, has added a zero.

It is actually easier than ever to live a more complicated life. It's also much harder than it almost ever has been outside of crisis scenarios like war in famine to maintain the basics, functionally the opposite of your concerns and solutions.

So the economic issue isn't a resource problem or lifestyle problem, even if resources and lifestyles are generally problems. It's a fundamental misdistribution of costs, income, and investments that has stacked up over the last 40 years.