With prospects murky, President Trump on Friday floated the idea of issuing an executive order that would accomplish the same goal.

“There will be Voter I.D. for the Midterm Elections, whether approved by Congress or not!” Trump wrote on Truth Social.

Critics have slammed the proposal as an attack on voting rights and warned it could disenfranchise millions of legal voters, including women whose married names do not match their passports or birth certificates.

Noem pushed back on that opposition on Friday.
“Each of the arguments laid out to criticize this bill are baseless speculation from the radical left because they want illegal aliens to vote in our elections,” she said.

Noem has come under fire in recent weeks for her rhetoric surrounding immigration enforcement operations in Minnesota, particularly her hasty use of the term “domestic terrorism” to describe the actions of two U.S. citizens fatally shot by federal officers.

Trump has so far defended Noem and resisted bipartisan pressure for her resignation or firing. Former Obama adviser David Axelrod suggested in a post on Twitter that Noem’s comments on election security could help explain why.

“THIS is why @KristiNoem will remain in place, despite her flagrant, corrupt mismanagement of the @DHS, at least through the midterm elections,” he wrote. “@POTUS wants a loyal apparatchik in place who will do whatever is necessary to ensure ‘the right leaders’ win.”

>>1489464
Boy, democrats sure are fucking pissed all the illegals they smuggled into the country under Biden can't vote for their party now.

>>1489467
How, pray tell, is an iLlEgAl supposed to fucking vote in the first place? They are, by nature, unable to be registered voters!

>>1489464
Boy, retards sure are fucking pissed that illegals they pretend were smuggled into the country under Biden are now voting for democrats

they couldn't before, but they still can't now either

>>1489468
They same way they can get a license to drive an 18 ton semi into 30 cars and kill a dozen Americans.

>>1489468
Harvard is giving classes that instruct undergrads to fill out applicants for immigrants.
>https://beta.my.harvard.edu/course/HIST123/2026-Spring/1
Probably something like that.

>>1489464
People without ID should have anticipated the president would do this right before an election. Why should this go to a vote? 100% of Americans agree with this already and Trump is guaranteed to win a supermajority now that whites and minorities overwhelmingly agree he’s the greatest president in the world

>>1489479
Because apparently blacks and women can't afford $12 dollars for a one-time purchase of a non-drivers ID to vote. Or at least that's what twitter thinks.

>>1489482
>>1489479
>Poll tax is fine
>Even though it's expressly against the constitution

>>1489483
Why should the constitution get in the way of Trump fixing America? It’s old and nobody (least of all those as busy as Trump and his staffers) has time to read it anyways

>>1489482
>Guys it's just a one time purchase
>We totally won't change the rules again and make you buy another ID
A poll tax is a poll tax retard.

>>1489483
>>Poll tax is fine
>>Even though it's expressly against the constitution
And so were tax stamps. You were cool with that until Trump reduced the payment to $0. So don't waste my time whining about muh constitution when you're perfectly fine with violating it when it suits you. It costs less than a happy meal to make a one-time payment for a voter ID (at least in my based state). Why is this always a monumental challenge for minorities that gets brought up every election?

Other than you want to give illegals a chance.

>>1489487
>A poll tax is a poll tax retard.
See my last post under yours, retard.

>>1489488
Where were tax stamps forbidden in the constitution?
Try again Vatnik

>>1489468
>>1489467
>>1489472
There’s no credible evidence that large numbers of undocumented immigrants are voting in U.S. elections or meaningfully influencing outcomes.

Non-citizen voting in federal elections is illegal, and investigations by researchers and election officials—including analyses cited by the Brennan Center for Justice—have consistently found it to be extremely rare.

The claim is mostly a political talking point tied to broader debates about immigration and voting laws, not something supported by verified data.

>>1489490
And there you have it.
>when I tax you to enjoy a right it's okay
>when you do it it's bad and against the constitution
Fuck off. You're not allowed to use that argument anymore. Now tell me why we shouldn't have voter ID like every other democracy on the fucking planet.

>>1489488
>So don't waste my time whining about muh constitution when you're perfectly fine with violating it when it suits you.
Does your countries constitution allow the federal government to dictate how elections are held?
Because thats probably the main difference between your third world shithole and the USA
Despite the propaganda you're paid to push, you wouldn't be able to vote if you came here

>>1489494
>There’s no credible evidence that large numbers of undocumented immigrants are voting in U.S. elections or meaningfully influencing outcomes.
And there's no credible evidence that the majority of democrats are so fucking poor they can't spend less than $20 dollars on an ID to vote.

>>1489496
>Does your countries constitution allow the federal government to dictate how elections are held?
They had no problem when Biden did it.

>>1489498
>They
>doesn't deny being a foreigner
shut the fuck up, shill

>>1489495
>Moving the goalposts
The Poll tax trump wants to force is expressly unconstitutional.

>>1489501
And so was the tax stamp to buy firearms, which you had no problem with. So either answer my question or fuck off back to plebbit where you belong, rat.

>>1489497
>moves goalpost
I accept your concession

>>1489504
And I accept that you have no valid answer against requiring an ID to vote.
>durrr it's against the constitution
>perfectly fine with violating 2A and requiring a tax to own firearms
>hurrrr no proof illegals voting is a serious problem
>can't prove requiring an ID to vote to prevent the problem entirely is a serious burden
>derp derp derp feds interfering with state elections is illegal
>was perfectly fine with Biden doing it during his term

>>1489505
nta, are you narrating your own posts?
you've provided 0 reasons for ID

Imagine being so stupid but you think shooting a puppy is going to make you look like a tough guy. And then being so stupid that appearing before some shaved head men in a 3rd world super prison in a tight t-shirt it's going to get you some votes in the future.
Stupid bitch keeps falling on doorknobs of her own volition

>>1489509
To prevent voter fraud and ensure the integrity of our elections just like every other democracy on the planet does.

>>1489497
To vote at the Canadian federal election you have to prove your identity and address. There are three ways to do this


Option 1: Show one of these pieces of ID

your driver's licence
any other card issued by a Canadian government (federal, provincial/territorial or local) with your photo, name and current address

Option 2: Show two pieces of ID

Both must have your name and at least one must have your current address.

Examples:

health card and bank statement
utility bill and student ID card

See the full list of accepted ID below to prove your identity and address under Option 2.


Option 3: If you don't have ID

You can still vote if you declare your identity and address in writing and have someone who knows you and who is assigned to your polling station vouch for you.

The voucher must be able to prove their identity and address. A person can vouch for only one person (except in long-term care institutions).

https://www.elections.ca/content.aspx?section=vot&dir=ids&document=index&lang=e
:

>>1489503
And that's not specifically outlawed by the constitution like the poll tax, which is voter ID.

>>1489511
>noooooo stupid libs, you have to believe its a problem
>sure we don't have any examples, and its never happened before
>but it might
>ignore Trump whining about losing the elections before pivoting to these problemless answers
Maybe if you weren't transparent faggots who only whine about voter fraud when you're losing

>>1489527
Don't forget, the way republicans force it is intentionally racist and attacks the poor, on top of the fact it's a solution in search of a problem.
https://assets.aclu.org/live/uploads/document/aclu_voter_id_fact_sheet_-_final__1_.pdf

THERES A LITERAL PHRASE

"THAT DOG WONT HUNT"

THAT MEANS "USELESS"

SORRY YOUR LIBERAL EMPATHY CRIPPLED YOUR USEFULNESS BUT PROJECTING IT ONTO A DOG WONT MAKE YOU ANY LESS OF A TOOL

IF THE DOG WONT HUNT ITS A DEAD DOG

YOU COULD LEARN SOMETHING FROM THAT PHRASE

>>1489526
>And that's not specifically outlawed by the constitution
>shall not be infringed.

>>1489527
>sure we don't have any examples,
But that's wrong you fucking retard, and those are only the people we've caught. If only we had some kind of verification system like our European and Oceanic counterparts...

But no. Can't have that. ID is racist!

>>1489540
>well regulated militia
Meanwhile a Poll Tax is specifically named and outlawed.

>>1489541
And who is the militia?

>>1489540
Immigrants still can't register to vote
You're already prepared to pivot over to claiming immigrants stole IDs, because you don't actually care about election integrity

>>1489544
In theory they can't drive either. So how do we have multiple examples of them causing massive wrecks and killing Americans on highways while working for trucking companies?

>>1489545
>In theory they can't drive either.
>So how do they drive, lib?
embarrassing goalpost move
try again

>>1489547
You think that Illegals getting drivers licenses and illegals getting the vote are unrelated?
https://www.ncsl.org/elections-and-campaigns/automatic-voter-registration
>Automatic voter registration (AVR) is a process in which eligible individuals are automatically registered to vote when interacting with certain government agencies, such as a department of motor vehicles. Information gathered from participating government agencies is transmitted to election officials, who use it to either create a new voter record or update an existing registration. While this process is triggered by an interaction with a participating government agency, it is not compulsory
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgql5gk38wno
>California is revoking 17,000 commercial driver's licences after an audit found they were given to thousands of immigrants who are no longer legally allowed in the US.

>The Department of Transportation said California officials confirmed they "illegally issued" those licences "to dangerous foreign drivers", and the holders were notified their licences will expire in 60 days.
California admitted to "mistakenly" issuing 17,000 commercial drivers licenses to people who are not legally allowed in the country.

>>1489547
>illegals proven repeatedly to do things they shouldn't be able to do
>we shouldn't be able to stop them because $12 dollars is too much of a burden to put on our black voters
Stop wasting my precious time.

>>1489551
lmao, you're trying to pretend all these things mean that immigrants are being registered to vote when they're not
do stupid people really fall for that?
just because people are being submitted doesn't mean they're not being immediately rejected for not being citizens, you're so fucking dumb

>>1489552
just because you're being paid to be here doesn't mean your time is precious
go fuck up your own countries elections, America doesn't have your problems

>>1489554
1. California offers drivers licenses to illegal aliens
2. California has automatic voter registration, a process in which they are automatically registered to vote when interacting with government agencies, such as the DMV
3.California has admitted to issuing 17,000 commercial licenses in error, and revoked those licenses
This leads to 4. California has automatically registered to vote people who weren't legally allowed to vote "by mistake"

>>1489556
Nah, you're missing:
4. Non-Citizens who register to vote get rejected
which leads to 5. No one that isn't cripplingly retarded thinks this somehow means illegals are able to vote

also 6. Commerical Licenses issued for a full term that happens to go beyond the date an immigrant is legally allowed to a country aren't invalid licenses, no matter how much shills are paid to believe they are

>>1489558
>Non-Citizens who register to vote get rejected
That's not true at all. ICE has found immigrants working in police forces and other places that require background checks and legal citizenship.

>>1489563
None of those are being registered to vote, retarded goalpost mover
I'll note that you can't show these people illegally voted, because you're full of shit

>>1489554
>durrr ur not american durrr
I said STOP wasting my time, faggot.

>>1489571
>staaaaahp i'm paid to respond to everyone that replies to me

>>1489572
>Waaaaaahhh everyone who disagrees with me about voter ID is a paid shill!
Cry harder faggot.

>>1489575
>btfo
>resorting to whining
>literally shit themselves
yep, its a tourist shill

>>1489547
If illegal immigrants cant already vote then theres no issue with requiring identification to vote. Most nations already require it, and America leads the world why should we be any less secure than the 3rd world

What are you even afraid of? It won't make the voting line any longer or slower this is a good change

>>1489593
>If illegal immigrants cant already vote then theres no issue with requiring identification to vote
There is when that identification isn't something many or most citizens have.
>Most nations already require it
Most nations have federal, country-wide IDs. The US doesn't, and is making no moves to implement them. A state ID is not proof of citizenship.

>>1489594
>There is when that identification isn't something many or most citizens have.
>most citizens don't have identification
CITATION FUCKING NEEDED

>>1489566
That's not goalpost moving. This magical system you think is preventing non-citizens from voting isn't even preventing them from illegally acquiring firearms.

>>1489464
I doubt Trump will even let the midterm elections happen.

>>1489604
He will, they'll just be rigged. That way he can claim legitimacy. That's what all the cool autocrats do.

>>1489594
Then its high time that those citizens get their identification.

It's a small cost to participate in our democracy.

I support free passports for all Americans. Get rid of the fees, but only issue them to legit citizens.

>>1489603
>illegally acquiring firearms.
What does the ESL actually think 'shall not be infringed' means?

>>1489542
The well regulated

>>1489615
Which is who?

>>1489607
I see the libcope is already in effect

>>1489602
Do you seriously need citation that most Americans don't have a passport? Or that many citizens have different names than their birth name?

>>1489613
>Then its high time that those citizens get their identification.
That costs money. Requiring citizens to purchase something in order to vote is a poll tax, which is unconstitutional and illegal.
>I support free passports for all Americans.
Great. They're not doing that.

>>1489618
If you can't afford to have a passport, you can't afford to vote. It's that simple.

Don't like it? Vote in some new politicians who will change it.

Of course, you'll need a passport lmao

>>1489618
Traveling to your polling place costs money
Eating food on the way costs money (Australians get a free meal)
Reading up on the candidates costs time and time = money

There are a plethora of poll taxes in place already dont be disingenuous just because the latest one is going to disproportionately cuck Your candidates

>>1489614
Illegal immigrants cannot own firearms in the United States you fucking retard.

>>1489624
Sadly they can. But it's against the law, you're right on that much

>>1489618
>Do you seriously need citation that most Americans don't have a passport?
Which you don't need to vote, so nice try moving that goalpost.

>>1489628
You do now! Cry about it all you want libtard, being properly documented is now a prerequisite to participating in our democracy

*Trump's executive order isn't public yet. But it's written already

Buckle up buckeroo, we are going to see how many of the "swing states" hinged on the illegal bloc

>>1489616
The well regulated, which does not apply to poll taxes. Yet you want a poll tax to steal the election.

>>1489629
1) you don't
and
2)...
>Most people don't have an ID.
>Prove it!
>Most people don't have passports!

>>1489632
>The well regulated,
Who.
Are.
The.
Well.
Regulated.
???

We both know the answer, but you won't give it because it proves how much of a fucking retard you are.

>>1489634
I would answer but as a libtard I'm currently still locked into a news cycle narrative that requires that I pretend to be pro-2a and that Republicans are actually anti-gun

>>1489634
Whites are well regulated enough to own guns, they don't let their emotions get the better of them
Black Americans are in the wrong latitude they don't get enough sun and the first symptom of a vitamin d deficiency is mood changes

Of course things go south fast when they get their hands on firearms. It's just in their nature

>>1489620
>If you can't afford to have a passport, you can't afford to vote.
That's illegal and unconstitutional.

>>1489622
That's nonsense.
>going to disproportionately cuck Your candidates
That is the point of all this, though. Two demographics that would be heavily disenfranchised by this are (married) women and trannies, who predominately vote Democrat.

>>1489628
You will with Save, which is what people are mad about.

>>1489639
Married women won't have any troubles that's fake news and if you believe it youre not smart enough to talk to. Neither party will disenfranchise married women. They can vote under their husbands surname, just like they always have. Don't exaggerate

>>1489639
>You will with Save, which is what people are mad about.
The claim was
>There is when that identification isn't something many or most citizens have.
Now prove it.

>>1489643
I can't attach the picture because the board isn't a picture board but Google

"Americans who have passports map"

Most of the south doesn't have a passport lmao
because they're too broke to travel lmao

>>1489645
>There is when that identification isn't something many or most citizens have.
>identification isn't something many or most citizens have.
>identification
Prove it. Or just spare us the time and admit you fucked up.

>>1489649
It's cute you refuse to Google and insist on me doing it for you ok here ya go

https://ariventures.co/passport-ownership-in-the-us/

https://passportlists.com/why-dont-americans-have-passports/

https://factually.co/fact-checks/politics/voters-without-passports-or-birth-certificates-demographics-access-eddc50

https://www.americanprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/01/SAVEact-tables.pdf

Faggot

>>1489650
Welp we're doing this now.

Are passports the only form of identification in America? Yes or no.

>>1489651
Passports are the required identification to vote.

Feel free to keep screeching about it, it's now passport or no vote for you, illegal scum

If you don't like it, vote against it

>>1489652
Are passports the only form of identification in America? Yes or no.

>>1489653
Passports are the only form of identification for Americans to vote. Yes.

>>1489657
Are passports the only form of identification in America? Yes or no.

>>1489659
Yes, I've already answered you twice. Passports are the only acceptable form of identification to vote in america. Spamming the question at me won't change anything.

Unless you spam it one more time, then that will make the answer magically be "no you can vote with just a driver's license" so don't you dare spam it one more time I'll crack under the pressure

Faggot

>>1489660
>Yes
That's wrong you fucking retard. Which you know, but you won't answer correctly because you made a blatantly bullshit claim, got called out, and instead of saying 'oops I fucked up, what I meant to say was X', you decided to double-down on your retardation and make it about passports being required to vote - something nobody in this thread was talking about at all until you did here >>1489618 to cover your lying nigger ass moving the goalposts, because nobody else in this thread was talking about requiring passports to vote, which you would still be wrong about either way.

Nice try faggot, now kill yourself.

>>1489661
>>REEEEEEEE
Passports are the only valid identification to vote.
>>N-word
Racists don't get to be part of the social fabric, your vote will be discounted for the next 4 cycles

you don't need id to vote in america
your citizenship is checked during registration
when you vote you confirm no one else voted under your name
easy peasy

Trump is talking about passports to vote and he's in charge lmao

Are passports the only identification to vote?
Yes or no.

>>1489663
You do now lmao

The times they are a changin'

>>1489662
>Passports are the only valid identification to vote.
Wrong, and not what anyone was talking about. Your deflection failed.
>Racists don't get to be part of the social fabric,
Awww did I hurt your subhuman feelings? Go cry on reddit about it.

>>1489664
>>1489666
shill's having a meltie
Trump has no power to unilaterally dictate anything about elections
cry more

>>1489667
>>1489668
https://www.politico.com/news/2026/02/13/trump-voter-id-congress-00782094

"Whether congress approves it or not"

Keep laughing and saying he can't do it all the way to November. The illegals will never be able to vote again lmao

>>1489667
Trumps talking about it and last I checked he's a pretty important someone

What is he trying to get away with this time?

>>1489672
When did he ever fail to get away with anything

>>1489669
So not currently the law, which means you're incorrect. Not to mention the bill accepts other forms of identification... which you don't think exist... besides passports. So again, you're wrong. So now that we've entertained your pathetic attempt at moving the goalposts, lets get back to the topic we were talking about, which is you flailing wildly to come up with any reason why we shouldn't have voter ID like almost every other western country does.

>>1489670
Clearly you haven't noticed that Trump says a lot of shit. He said he was going to take Greenland. Did he? He said he was going to make Canada the 51st state. Did he? He said he was going to pull the US out of NATO. Did he?

>>1489675
We should have voter id

Greenland will be ours, Canada will be ours. That won't happen until after the Final Plan is implemented, which anyone who was on truth social would know. It's not my fault you're ignorant.

>>1489676
posting in a shill meltie thread
put me in the screenshot

>>1489464
YOU CANT STOP US
WE WILL PROTECT THE ELECTION
NOTHING YOU DO WILL ALLOW ILLEGALS TO VOTE EVER AGAIN

>>1489651
No, they're not, but we're not talking about form of identification, we're talking about proof of citizenship, which is what the Save act requires. Of course there are other forms of identification in America, but most of them don't prove you're a citizen.
You d this all the time. Asking some yes or no question like you've got some big gotcha lined up, and it never actually fits the discussion being had.

>>1489661
That ain't me, anon.

>>1489678
What screenshot

>>1489680
Does the save act require passports to vote? Yes or no.

>>1489682
what do you think a dead bill does?
Trump wouldn't be screeching about trying to pass anything on his own if the bill wasn't DOA

>>1489682
What did I just fucking say?
Not explicitly. It requires proof of citizenship, and there's not many forms of ID that provide that. Passports are one, but most Americans don't have one. Birth certificates are another, but only if you've never changed your birth name, which many people have. There's a few other forms, like naturalization papers or tribal documentation, but most Americans can't get those at all.

>>1489684
The bill failed so he's going to use an executive order

Get rekt

>>1489685
Does the save act require a passport to vote? Yes or no.

>>1489687
I just answered that.

>>1489634
Militia,
Now why are you so desperate to change the subject from the trump poll tax which is specifically in the constitution?
More than it's a classic Russian tactic

>>1489687
if i say yes what's your canned response

>>1489693
>Militia,
Which is composed of every able-bodied male. I've wasted enough time waiting for you to answer honestly.

>Now why are you so desperate to change the subject from the trump poll tax which is specifically in the constitution?
>And that's not specifically outlawed by the constitution
>shall not be infringed.
You hypocrites were fine with violating rights in the constitution and requiring a tax on 2A. Don't bitch about a lousy $12 dollar "poll tax" for a $12 dollar ID. If anything, we should charge you fuckers $200 and you need to buy a new one each time you vote. See how you like it then.

>More than it's a classic Russian tactic
Da comrade, everyone who doesn't agree with you is a Russian bot.

>>1489686
why hasn't Trump just executive ordered out all the illegals then?
checkmate, faggot

>>1489651
>>1489659
>>1489687

This anon is employing a Strawman Fallacy, which is a classic technique from sophistry
Pathetic

>>1489699
He did it on Day 1!
https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/01/protecting-the-meaning-and-value-of-american-citizenship/

And here's a summary of how it's going:

The Supreme Court is set to review the constitutionality of President Trump's executive order that seeks to limit birthright citizenship for children born in the U.S. to parents who are undocumented or in the country temporarily. This case will be argued in spring 2026, with a ruling expected by summer 2026.

You're out here playing checkers, faggot

>>1489701
So he spent a year doing nothing and tricked you into thinking its a win
lmao

>>1489711
No, the way America works is we have checks and balances. The executive order has been checked until the Supreme Court rules on it.

The good news is, trump appointed half of the supreme court. So once they rule on it this summer the fake citizens are OUTTA HERE

>>1489712
Or the Constitution will stand as written, and you'll be pretending its a win while coping
But at least you're getting paid, and all that American money is helping your shithole village

>We're going to make sure no on can cheat in elections
>Democrats: NOOOOOOO!!!!!
Why are they like this?
>>1489711
>Been complaining for a decade about nothing.
We know you have been.

>>1489717
lmao, everyone else dropped that CA license cope because it was too dumb for even magats to swallow
that you're still falling for it just shows how fucking dumb you are

>>1489722
You need to preface your horseshit with a source or something you sociopathic mong.

>>1489717
They're not.

>>1489728
There's evidence that they are.

>>1489698
>He admits he's a russian bot
That was easy. Wonder how you'll help trump steal this election, outside of shilling for his unconstitutional poll tax

>>1489535
>SORRY YOUR LIBERAL EMPATHY CRIPPLED YOUR USEFULNESS
Disgusting human being to actually think like this
>empathy=evil
how do you justify having become a person like this?
Do you sleep at night? Is your mother alive, and is she horribly disappointed in you?