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https://www.startribune.com/ice-fourth-amendment-whistleblower-congressional-democrats-forum-testimony-blumenthal/601587162

>WASHINGTON — A former ICE teacher at a Georgia training center told congressional Democrats on Feb. 23 that new agents are trained to run roughshod over constitutional rights, including the right against a home invasion, and that the federal agency is “broken.”

>Ryan Schwank, who resigned from Immigration and Customs Enforcement on Feb. 13, told the forum that ICE is training new agents to violate Fourth Amendment protections against unreasonable search and seizure.

>“ICE is lying to Congress and the American people about the steps it is taking to ensure its 10,000 new officers faithfully uphold the Constitution,” Schwank, who joined ICE as legal counsel in 2021, said in the draft.

>The DHS on Monday denied his allegations.

>But Schwank said one two-hour program was cut to 10 minutes, “shoe-horned into a lesson [on the Fourth Amendment,” Schwank said, answering a question from Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a Minnesota Democrat.

>Klobuchar asked Schwank to go over what programs had been skipped or condensed, noting, “It’s been my constituents that have been dragged out of their homes.”

>The Department of Homeland Security, which runs ICE, has said all of its officers were following federal law throughout Operation Metro Surge in Minneapolis and other widespread escalations such as in Chicago.

>Schwank said he was told to teach officer candidates they could apprehend individuals with only an administrative removal order, not a judge’s warrant — a practice used in Minneapolis.
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>“Never in my career had I received such a blatant or unlawful order,” Schwank said.

>Schwank also said in a run-up to hire more officers by year’s end, courses about legal searches and seizures, the use of force and the limits of an officer’s authority were all condensed.
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>“ICE made the program shorter, and they removed so many essential parts that what remains is a dangerous husk,” Schwank said.

>DHS Deputy Assistant Secretary Lauren Bis said that officers received “comprehensive instruction” in both the Fourth and Fifth Amendments and that no training requirements have been removed.

>“Despite false claims from the media and sanctuary politicians, no training hours have been cut,” Bis said on Feb. 23.

>But a memo from Minority Staff of the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations lays out internal ICE records showing that new recruits are receiving significantly less training than previous officers.


>Two weeks ago, ICE Acting Director Todd Lyons told Congress that while the overall training days had declined, new officers were being asked to work longer days.

>But the records in the memo suggest ICE trainees are still working “nine-hour days.” Furthermore, they are taking fewer exams. One exam cut by staff includes a practice on “Judgment Pistol Shooting,” according to the memo.

>The congressional forum on Feb. 23 was hosted by Sen. Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., and Rep. Robert Garcia, D-Calif. No Republicans attended.

>Earlier this month, a similar gathering heard testimony from Renee Good’s brothers and a Minneapolis resident dragged from her car.

>Also testifying on Monday was Minneapolis resident Teyana Gibson Brown, who was photographed as ICE burst into her home in mid-January.

>Gibson Brown, a pediatric nurse, said ICE officers arrived outside her home and pounded on the door, terrifying her 9-year-old daughter and her daughter’s cousin.

>Her husband, Garrison, asked for a warrant, which was never produced. After agents fired chemical agents at a growing crowd of neighbors and protesters, they started to ram her house.

>“I heard the door pop and realized we were no longer protected,” Gibson Brown said.
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>Officers entered with guns pointed at the family. In a video, Brown is heard calling to officers to produce a warrant and that “there’s nobody in here but my babies.”

>Eventually, officers detained her husband. Four days later, a federal judge ordered him released, citing violations of the Fourth Amendment.

>Steve Bunnell, a former general counsel for the Department of Homeland Security, said that the treatment of Gibson Brown’s husband was akin to a SWAT team surrounding a violent criminal. Instead, it was someone who had been adhering to civil conditions for 17 years. Garrison Brown fled civil war in Liberia as a child; he was ordered deported for a 2008 drug conviction that was later dismissed by the courts.

>“These are not the worst of the worst. They have civil rights,” Bunnell said.
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>>1491482
>>Schwank said he was told to teach officer candidates they could apprehend individuals with only an administrative removal order, not a judge’s warrant — a practice used in Minneapolis.
Yeah, and? If they're illegal what's the problem? They don't have the same constitutional rights as legal Americans.
>nb4 nuh uh
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>>1491488
nuh uh
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>>1491490
Can an illegal purchase a gun from a gun store?
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>>1491488
The issue is they are breaking into the houses of legal immigrants and citizens without warrants.
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>>1491502
When they identify there's an illegal in the home. They don't need a warrant anymore than the U.S. Marshals when they ID a fugitive. They can't search the place, but they can go in to arrest.
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>>1491503
god you're esl
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>>1491503
the us marshals usually need a warrant to enter a house or other private spaces
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>>1491502
The purpose of the exercise is for Mexicans to fucking leave. They're foreign invaders and the Constitution was meant to protect American citizens FROM threats, foreign and domestic, not to protect Mexicans from American citizens. If they're legal, illegal, left right or sideways, doesn't matter. If they're smart, they'll fuck off back to Mexico, if they're not smart, they'll stay and they deserve whatever they get. Simple as.
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>>1491511
Not if they see the suspect.
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>>1491488
Everyone on US soil is subject to US laws, including the 4th Amendment. By your logic, if the highest laws we have don't apply to them, then none should.
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>>1491517
So right back to the 2A question from earlier: can illegals purchase firearms from a gun store?

No?

Well then I guess we can dismiss with this silly notion that illegals have the same exact rights as legals.
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>>1491491
SHALL
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>>1491521
4473
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>>1491519
You think that's a gotcha because it conflicts with your politics, but guess what gonzo, it doesn't conflict with mine, because I understand the militia was the important part of the amendment.
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>>1491525
And who are the militia?
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>>1491515
Gonna need to see a source for that.
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>>1491512
>He thinks they're just Mexicans
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>>1491482
>>Schwank said he was told to teach officer candidates they could apprehend individuals with only an administrative removal order, not a judge’s warrant — a practice used in Minneapolis.
Yes. You can do this. You have always been allowed to do this. see: INS v. Lopez-Mendoza, United States v. Cantu and Tejeda-Mata v. INS.

Absolute nothing story.
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>>1491535


https://www.forbes.com/sites/antoniopequenoiv/2026/01/22/vance-defends-ice-memo-telling-agents-they-can-raid-homes-without-a-judges-warrant/
>Vance Defends ICE Memo Telling Agents They Can Raid Homes Without A Judge’s Warrant
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>>1491482
>startribune

LMFAO

Do liberals really???
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>>1491482
Based just like covid times #nostalgia
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>>1491482
this picture is adult daycare vibes
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>>1491540
https://www.livenowfox.com/news/memo-tells-ice-officers-enter-homes-without-judges-warrant
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https://www.foxnews.com/politics/federal-judge-who-ordered-no-warrantless-ice-arrests-colorado-asserts-doj-not-complying
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ice-reveals-legal-theory-behind-warrantless-immigration-arrests
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>>1491541
When were people being executed in the streets during covid?
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>>1491482
They can never take away my 9th Amendment…..
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It is way simpler than that. They follow the President's orders, passed down to the head of DHS. That is how the chain of command works. If you don't like it, get another president. The buck stops with him.
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>>1491584
When Michael Reinoehl executed Aaron Danielson.
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>>1491651
Was Michael Reinoehl a member of law enforcement?
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>>1491488
Hi Jew, how are you?
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>>1491666
No Satan. He was another left-wing vigilante. I fail to see your point though. Nobody is being executed in the streets this year the way Aaron Danielson was.
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>>1491671
>Nobody is being executed in the streets this year the way Aaron Danielson was.
We've got two dead and at least two more they tried to do the same to but survived.
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>>1491673
And they weren't executed.
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>>1491675
yes they were esl shill, we all have eyes
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>>1491675
Please tell me how firing 10 shots into a disarmed man on the ground isn't an execution.
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>>1491512
Agreed. We should completely suspend the bill of rights so long as illegals exist and shit
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>>1491680
For the 10,000th time, the officers fighting with the man resisting arrest didn't know he was disarmed when a shot went off (likely from the pistol known for it's issues) as he was reaching into his waistband.

The same way Michael Reinoehl was shot reaching into his pockets, where a gun was, and was shot by police - only for people like you to cry about how your Antifa freedom fighter - who assassinated an unarmed man and then fled and went into hiding - was "executed" by police.
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>>1491684
Why would you lie for the 10,000 time? It was an execution
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>>1491685
George Floyd died of a drug overdose
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>>1491686
can you hurry up and die of loneliness
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>>1491684
He wasn’t fighting, he wasn’t resisting, he didn’t reach for his belt, they knew he was disarmed.
Stop fucking lying.
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>>1491690
it's literally his job to lie though
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>>1491690
>He wasn’t fighting
He initially put his hand on the officer. That's assault.
>he wasn’t resisting
He clearly was, which is why it took four agents to hold him down and they still couldn't get his hands behind his back because...
>he didn’t reach for his belt
He did, and you can see it in the video.
>they knew he was disarmed.
They didn't, which is why officers were asking where the weapon was when the EMTs arrived.

Not an execution. Just like Good wasn't an execution. I love how the same people who sperg out when cars drive through their "peaceful protests" when they're blocking roads are now upset that one of their retards got shot for hitting an officer with her car. Like the word "hypocrisy" means nothing to them.
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>>1491690
see what i mean. paid to lie
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>>1491539
>>Vance Defends ICE Memo Telling Agents They Can Raid Homes Without A Judge’s Warrant
Yes.
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>>1491692
>He initially put his hand on the officer. That's assault.
Lies.
>He clearly was, which is why it took four agents to hold him down and they still couldn't get his hands behind his back because...
Not only were they not trying to get his hands behind his back, they were literally just jumping him and beating him up while he was held down.
>He did, and you can see it in the video.
Also a lie
>They didn't, which is why officers were asking where the weapon was when the EMTs arrived.
Oh so they didn't see one of their own seize his weapon? And the guy who did didn't bother telling anyone about it?
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>>1491707
>Lies.
Wrong, and you can see it in the video when he's standing.
>Not only were they not trying to get his hands behind his back,
Which they couldn't do because he was resisting, yes?
>Also a lie
Wrong, and you can see this in the video when he's on his knees - RESISTING ARREST - putting his right hand at the waistline of his pants.
>Oh so they didn't see one of their own seize his weapon?
No they didn't you fucking retard, because they were too busy wrestling with this retard who was RESISTING ARREST.

How many fucking times do we need to beat this dead horse? Your homeboy got wasted for doing dumb shit like every other smoothbrained leftist in this country. Turns out your chances of getting shot by police by just simply NOT DOING DUMB SHIT go down like 99.99%. Who would've thought?
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>>1491707
>Oh so they didn't see one of their own seize his weapon? And the guy who did didn't bother telling anyone about it?
Considering he was shot, probably not.
Good Riddance to Pretti garbage.
I hope more fags are killed and arrested for terrorism moving forward.
>Be out terrorizing ICE for enforcing the law
>Complain about the legality of a death
Da fuq?
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>>1491711
>Pretti
you misspelled Babbit
now that was a righteous execution
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>>1491710
>Lies even more about things we literally have full video
Yeah we already know the two agents that shot him. They'll be facing justice sooner or later.
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>>1491713
Oh no? I cared about Babbit so much.
It hurts. The wounds. The pain. Ouch.
Alls I'm sayin' is, ICE has a Pretti Good faggot killing streak. It's like fags are mentally ill or something.
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>>1491683
This but unironically. The people bitching about human rights are leaving no other legal recourse but to dismantle the laws and privileges our country is built on in order to get rid of the fucking browns. The only alternative is to just murder them all and send them home in a box.
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>>1491732
Let's compromise. We'll dismantle the laws and privileges our country is built on in order to get rid of the fucking fascists. Sound good?
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>>1491733
NTA, how do you plan on doing that exactly? Those "fascists" have all the guns and the knowledge on how to use them. Your side can't kill anyone who isn't already unarmed (Charlie Kirk, Aaron Danielson, etc.). Hell, you couldn't take out a scared shitless 17 year old running for his life. Imagine how you'll fair against someone who genuinely wants to kill you.
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>>1491732
>This but unironically. The people bitching about human rights are leaving no other legal recourse but to dismantle the laws and privileges our country is built on in order to get rid of the fucking browns.
Frame it as racism because the Spanish bred with the forest people hundreds of years ago.
It's not that they're brown, it's that they're not here legally. They don't pay taxes and they use resources. And Democrats pack their sanctuary cities with them to gain an apportionment advantage in congress and more electoral votes.
It's the 3/5 Compromise all over again. So, basically FUCK YOU amoral assholes.
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>>1491734
Civil war 2 is survivalists vs. troons and faggots.
It'll be a bloodbath.
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>>1491741
So we'll be exterminating a bunch of fucking queers locked in their coom rooms jerking it to AI furry porn?
Sounds like the best way to win is cut off the Internet for a few days.
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>>1491734
I don't, you fucking retard.
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>>1491745
>Just do it for me
Who do you expect to do it?
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>>1491741
It'll be hilarious when the illegal immigrants don't give a shit.
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>>1491747
I'm not going to humor your atrociously bad reading comprehension, anon.
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>>1491482
>‘Then why are you chasing us out?’ the girls said. ‘Catch-22,’ the men said. ‘What right do you have?’ the girls said. ‘Catch-22,’ the men said. All they kept saying was ‘Catch-22, Catch-22.’ What does it mean, Catch-22? What is Catch-22?”
>“Didn’t they show it to you?” Yossarian demanded, stamping about in anger and distress. “Didn’t you even make them read it?”
>“They don’t have to show us Catch-22,” the old woman answered. “The law says they don’t have to.”
>“What law says they don’t have to?”
>“Catch-22.”
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>>1491482
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/PWT76oHfnG4
Amazing (not really) how not one democrat could stand up to support American citizens over illegal immigrants.
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>>1491686
Why would you continue to smear George Floyd?

>>1491753
>The Rightoid Sun
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>>1491756
>>The Rightoid Sun
Pick any other source you want. Trump asked everyone to stand up if they care about US citizens more than illegal aliens, and dems stayed down in their seats. Whether you get the video from here, CNN, MSNBC, wherever it's the same outcome.

Dems care more about illegals than US citizens.
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>>1491753
>protection is the first duty
Protection has to be balanced against the liberty to define what protection actually means.
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>>1491759
It's not complicated. Which is more important: our nation's legal, naturally-born citizens or the illegal immigrants that came here against the law?
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>>1491760
it's not that complicated, the entire world watched two american citizens get murdered by ice
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>>1491761
Fags are not human or American.
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>>1491763
nice to meet you fags
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>>1491760
Do you have a vid of this?
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>>1491760
There's a lot of naturally born citizens that actually believe in diversity being our strength to one degree or another.
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>>1491765
I have videos of your mom 4k
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>>1491769
>There's a lot of naturally born citizens that actually believe in diversity being our strength to one degree or another.
Diversity is no strength.
A house divided against itself cannot stand.
And it doesn't. Diversity is the strength of rulers as it's easier to rule a divided population.

But anyway, you're arguing for diversity and against racism, which isn't the issue (because you're an immature wagged piece of garbage lacking any real thought processes). It's a windmill you're using to keep your 3/5 people in your blue states to gain a political apportionment advantage.
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>>1491774
found the pseudointellectual
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>>1491774
Whoever gets to decide what thought processes are real gets to do anything.
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>>1491772
I was asking for a source because I'd like to see it. I fully believe Democrats would do it.
Also my mother in 4k? She's like 70 though, but enjoy, I guess.
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>>1491760
important in what sense?
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>>1491807
What does your gut tell you?
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>>1491769
Compare the crime rates and list of terror attacks in the UK vs Poland to test that theory.
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>>1491845
you need new talking points shill, this one is stale



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