>>1493021
Good start.

In fact, I did vote for this.

>>1493021
Bet the families of those guys are really happy with Trump's "Some of you may die but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" speech. Your sons died for Trump and Netanyahu's amusement.

>>1493026
You make it seem like MAGA isn't eager to die for Israel's foreign wars

>>1493026
I'm guessing that they will blame Biden or Obama. Everyone does that when Trump fucks up.

>>1493028
>military service = MAGA

>>1493026
Given he flat out told the grieving parents of a soldier who was killed under his watch during his first term
>He knew what he was signing up for
to their faces, him going farquaad would be an improvement.

>>1493036
Lol we've already gone beyond "He knew what he was signing up for" and into "It's a good thing they died because now we can justify going even further."

>>1493038
It's a given trump and his neocon masters are going to immediately propagandize the deaths of the troops they got killed to further justify expanding the war.

If you can't afford fuel, you shouldn't be driving.

>>1493036
>He knew what he was signing up for

This is why My dad kept me out of the military with the medical diagnosis of bone spurs

And 14 wounded.
Gotta ensure washed-up country singers can afford expensive hats while they tell you to give even more money to "wounded warriors".
Worship that flag and don't ask questions, right?

>>1493021
What was even the point of this? What did we get out of it? Even if Iran was going for nukes, they don't have missiles that can reach the fucking US.

>>1493021
Only three and he's already decapitated the leadership of the entire country?

It's shaping up to be that Trump's strategy is more effective than Hannibal's at Cannae

>>1493077
>Hannibal
lost

>>1493072
It's good business.

Virtuous cycle A
Turmoil in the middle east = higher oil prices
Higher oil prices = more profit for American oil companies
More profit for American oil companies = more donations to Republicans
More donations to Republicans= more conflict in the middle east

>>1493076
Daddy Israel told us to.

>>1493077
Exactly. History shows us that the swift victories over the Taliban and Saddam Hussein under George Bush were the pretence for a long and durable peace.

>>1493076

The point is that Israel wanted it done in that region so we went along with it. Iran will either turn into another Iraq war, or devolve into a civil war and this will cause multiple groups to sprout up all over the middle east who might not like the a puppet government put in place by the West (or Israel for that matter) suddenly in charge after 50 years. I can't imagine it was the best military decision we could've made, but previous countries have been targeted for similar reasons in the past. The timing is pretty bad though.

>>1493076
I don't think there's a strategy. I think they're just blindly hoping either whoever takes charge will play ball like in Venezuela, or failing that, the country will destabilize enough that they can't invest in proxies that threaten Israel, or that anarchy leads to loss of funding/staff for the nuclear program.

Dealing with the nuclear program directly would require boots on the ground.

Oh, and a reminder that the nuclear deal Trump fucking tore up was fucking working and that up until the previous attack the Ayatollah whom we just killed actually had standing orders against the development of nuclear weapons, with enrichment just intended to be a bargaining chip in negotiations.

We've basically been undermining/killing the Iranian equivalent of doves. More likely than not, revanchists seize power after this.

All this blood and treasure is being spent because Trump couldn't fucking stand Obama.

>>1493086
I agree.

The only time I've seen Donald Trump look happy is when he was sitting in that fire truck in his first term. This is a man who thinks gold toilets and well-done filet mignon are the pinnacle of taste. That is to say; he's a 12 year old. He thinks bombs are cool and the US should just blow up the bad guys. There's no strategy at play, just a man hold chasing whatever his id wants.

Seriously, the US military averages about 1000 deaths from all causes per annum. 3 deaths in a war isn't even a percentage point of all deceased service members. There's actually more military murdered in terrorist attacks every year, ironically, likely sponsored by Iran.

https://dcas.dmdc.osd.mil/dcas/app/summaryData/deaths/byYearManner

>>1493094
Good post

>>1493094
Ah good, I'm sure anarchy in Iran will lead to more peace and less death.

>>1493096
In 24 hours they have had essentially the entirety of their air and naval assets destroyed, and we arent going to occupy them once we are done de-militarizing them later this week

What do you think the radicals in their population are going to do, launch ballistic stones at us for the next decade?

Even the overall Iranian death count has been extremely minor so far, nothing like when bush and Obama were using ground assets to murder rural farmers... The targets have all been military installations and nearly all of the dead so far surprisingly were on naval ships

>>1493100
The stench of desperation just wafts off of you

>>1493103
No idea what you mean. Irans lost probably 90% of its military assets in 24 hours, and your cope isn't going to change that

You're just going to have to deal with another trump win, pal

>>1493100
This shit has been claimed every single time they've been bombed for the last two decades.

>>1493107
Okay so how long did we occupy them during the last Iran-Israel war back in 2025?

>>1493107
>This shit has been claimed every single time they've been bombed
Lolololol no it hasn't. Give me a source of anyone claiming in the last 2 decades that they've demilitarized Iran and/or they've destroyed all their military assets.

I'll wait you lying faggo

>>1493100
Ah yes, destroying the military and leaving a huge power vacuum is sure to prevent anarchy. But who cares if it’s not our guys getting hurt by it, right?

We already blew up their leader and the group of people in charge of selecting the new leader. We won in the opening shots. Sad to see American lives lost, but that is war. The bombings will continue until morale improves

>>1493112
>How it started: Donald is going to end the forever wars
>How it's going: we just need to keep bombing them indefinitely

>>1493111
We also destroyed the entirety of the Iraqi army. That was "clearly effective* in preventing anybody in Iraq from attacking American soldiers in the future... right?

>Trump Can't Commit to Honor U.S. Troops He Got Killed
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-cant-commit-to-honor-us-troops-he-got-killed/

>Trump Dismisses More Military Deaths as ‘the Way It Is’
https://www.thedailybeast.com/america-first-trump-admits-therell-likely-be-more-us-deaths/

We lost three Alabama national guardsmen and 47 more wounded in Syria to an Iranian drone attack under the Biden admin and you and your scumbag friends in the media didn’t say fuckall.
Maybe keep our troops names out of your fucking mouth.

>>1493148
That wasn't the result of Biden joining with Israel to start a war without congressional approval. Especially after an entire campaign of saying how we aren't gonna be going to war with Iran and losing more lives to another middle east forever war.

>>1493149
No, instead Biden sent 12.5 times as much money as Trump sent to Israel on Ukraine
U.S. assistance to Israel for the four-year span that roughly corresponds to Jan 20, 2017 Jan 20, 2021 (i.e. FY2017-FY2020 totals reported) was about $13.95 billion (obligations).
U.S. assistance to Ukraine for the roughly comparable four-year span Jan 20, 2021 Jan 20, 2025 is an order of magnitude larger - on the scale of $174 billion-$183 billion depending on accounting rules and cut-off date.
$174 billion is about 12.5 times larger than $13.95 billion.

>>1493148
>>1493150
Good posts.

>>1493149
You make appeals to procedure while ignore results.

>>1493149
>another middle east forever war.
4 weeks or less

>>1493153
>no no no, THIS TIME it'll all work out

>>1493148
>and you and your scumbag friends in the media didn’t say fuckall
Care to elaborate what this even means? The Tower 22 thing got a lot of reporting. The fuck are you asking for?

DYING FOR ISRAEL

>>1493100
Do you even remotely remember how Iraq started?

>>1493147
The most basic level of respect is not something Trump is capable of.

>>1493159
Air offensive which failed to get Saddam, followed by a lengthy ground invasion which was fucked up by sandstorms

Apparently the number might be higher than three.

Guys, my contact at bluesky leaked that 1700+ American soldiers died. Xhe always provides good info. I'm scared, we never should have trusted Trump.

>>1493165
Nobel peace prize for your daddy any day now right shill anon

>>1493166
He was already given a nobel peace prize for deposing a dictator in Venezuela within a matter of hours

>>1493168
And your mother could've been given one if only she miscarried

>>1493076
If the regime falls, the entire network of anti-US militants and shitfuckery that they erected over decades will fall with them. THAT is pretty well worth it.

>>1493172
>If the regime falls, the entire network of anti-US militants and shitfuckery that they erected over decades will fall with them
HAHAHAHAHAHA holy fucking shit my sides. You naive little motherfucker.

>>1493173
Assad lost because Hezbollah got fucked up in Lebanon and couldn't prop him up any longer. The Islamic Regime falling would basically be that on a mass scale.

>>1493174
>Yeah the US coming in and destroying a bunch of shit will obviously get rid of all the anti-US sentiment and organizations
This is literally the same mindset that created ISIS.

>>1493171
So salty over facts and reality. Try seeing a therapist or something idk

>>1493177
Nta but that was probably more due to bush deploying ranger battalions to murder random afghani farmers and families than it was due to destroying their government buildings.

>>1493100
>In 24 hours they have had essentially the entirety of their air and naval assets destroyed
imagine unironically believing amerishart propaganda

>>1493179
>Please ignore the bombed school

>>1493182
Hey remember when a few months ago it was "Iran's nuclear program is gone, set back for decades and if you say otherwise, that's borderline treason". And now it's "we had to stop them they were like a week away from a nuke"

I refuse to believe a fucking thing this admin says about the effectiveness of their strikes. They just lie.

>>1493161
He famously called people serving "Losers and suckers" and used them as props to parade around for him for his last birthday, It's almost a given trump sees US soldiers as expendable pawns.

>>1493185
Obviously, but he can't even fake it. He can't even lie about it. Which is amazing, because that's all he does.

>>1493186
>One reporter asked about the operation’s objectives. Another asked who Trump wanted to lead Iran since Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei was killed in the attack.

>Instead of answering, Trump stopped to admire new statues of Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin in the Rose Garden.

>“Unbelievable statues,” he said as reporters shouted their questions. “You’ll see. Come and look at them.”

>Another journalist asked if he had a message to the families of the three U.S. service members killed in the conflict.

>Trump just walked away.

>>1493187
Guess you'll have to wait for his official statement
If you watched his state of the Union it was quite a show. I am sure he has something in mind for every soldier lost in this operation

>>1493021
We lost 3 f-15s to friendly fire in Kuwait. Pilots are all fine but it's still like, 20 million+ in value lost per jet.

>>1493190
Yeah, they're all losers and suckers.

>>1493213
This is nothing compared to the ongoing security to Israel. I don't care if thousands of Americans die, the most patriotic thing we can do is ensure the continued existence and expansion of Israeli borders. Trump knows what he's doing!

>>1493150
Thanks for admitting you're literally a Russian shill. Do you have any more whataboutism or crocodile tears for us

Send Barron

>>1493100
>What do you think the radicals in their population are going to do, launch ballistic stones at us for the next decade?
Set off a dirty bomb probably. Or destroy antiquated critical infrastructure.
Zionists are so fucking stupid.

Offer trade:
My 3 privates
for your
entire military and political leadership class

>>1493226
Four actually. Another one died from their injuries overnight.

>>1493226
Shit deal, this only benefits Israel.

>>1493229
10 dead Jews and hundreds injured in Israel so far
plus they act like a bullet magnet for the inevitable jihad retaliation
Israel is doing its part, and will continue to do so as long as America finds it convenient

>>1493231
>10 dead Jews and hundreds injured in Israel so far
Israel has played a major part in the fall of almost every middle eastern country.

>>1493232
Israel is a middle eastern country and it's going to fall just like the rest

>>1493091
To be entirely fair, bombs ARE cool and the US should just blow up the bad guys, it would make things in the world a lot simpler if everybody understood that the US is the World Protagonist and everyone else needs to sit down, shut up and get out of the way of our glorious charge towards control of the planet.

Allowing everyone their own small-minded say is the reason we go in circles forever saying and doing nothing of consequence, decade after decade.

>>1493234
>>1493091
What a very child like view of world.
The problem with that is Empires do not last forever so what happens when a coalition or nation can do that to US?

>>1493237
Then it will be their turn. Until then, you are owned by US

>>1493241
>Until then, you are owned by US
no shilly ESL, you're not owned by America
You're just being rented and will remain in your shithole country

>>1493076
Iran has been the largest and wealthiest extreme-Shia Islam for several decades. Iran has ports on the Caspian Sea and Persian/Oman gulf allowing ocean access. They've been an oil-producing giant for a long time.

Because of that and the aforementioned religious extremism, that country has turned out and funded more anti-western sentiment than any other region in the world. Will that disappear? No. But it will probably be relocated to Afghanistan, which is a shithole landlocked desert that had all its telecommunications infrastructure built by the US who can spy on literally everything they do still.

I'm not in favor of wars of aggression, but the US (and the Sunni muslims) will probably all benefit from what's happening in the medium-term. Short term, it's gonna fuck up fuel prices globally. Long term, it might result in yet another generation of people raised to hate everything about the US and anyone aligned with them.

Israel is obviously getting way more out of this than anyone else, but that's always the case with US involvement in the Middle East.

>>1493248
>Israel is obviously getting way more out of this than anyone else, but that's always the case with US involvement in the Middle East.
It's outrageous that the US is sacrificing its own economic standing and risking American lives to defend a foreign nation.
It also bothers me how so many Christfags are supportive of a jewish ethnostate.

>>1493250
It's in the bible

>>1493215
What is the evidence Trump said suckers and losers?

>>1493218
And you're a Palestinian shill

>>1493251
The OT says it. That was abolished with the arrival of Christ in the NT.
Unironically following OT rules means you deny the existence of Christ's resurrection.

Guys, I heard that 2 aircraft carriers sank. Everyone on board drowned. I'm scared, I think I regret voting for trump.

>>1493258
Christ has a brother on record who's name is the name the Jews gave to "Younger Twin"

I could resurrect too if I had an identical twin brother

>>1493251
The book of Genesis isn’t referencing the colonial project that didn’t exist until 1948

>>1493094
It’s actually a good thing that they’re dead so we should keep this war going

>>1493295
The nation of Israel is located on the land of Israel

>>1493299
Again, Yahweh isn’t talking about a colonialist project less than 80 years old. Also, modern Jews have no relation to the Jews of the Bible

>>1493300
The god of Israel promised the land of Israel to the people of Israel and they built the nation of Israel right where he told them to and now they are cleansing it

>>1493303
And who are the people of Israel?

>>1493305
The Israelis who own and run Israel thanks to God's will

>>1493306
I didn't ask you what the turks occupying Israel think. Who are the people of Israel?

Official US death count is now at six.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/six-us-service-members-killed-iran-conflict-us-military-says-2026-03-02/

>>1493311
Shills have to get their marching orders to go from "How many US lives were lost in these operations" to "Acceptable losses it was totally worth it"

>>1493307
The Israelis that own and run the nation of Israel situated on the land of Israel promised by the God of Israel are the people of Israel

>>1493311
Omg 6 american soldiers dead and we didn't even kill a single Iranian or take out any of their military???

>>1493021
>3 US servicemen KIA in Iran
>in Iran
So we have soldiers inside Iran now? The ground war already started?

>>1493313
called it >>1493316

>>1493318
War is a calculus not a playground
The Winning will continue until morale improves

>>1493321
So is it war or not, shill

>>1493321
>Party of Peace btw

It is war. It is a game. It is life.

America winning is the only constant

>>1493323
When Palestine goes to war with Israel while Biden is president it is not his fault
When Israel goes to war with Iran while Trump is president it is his fault

>>1493325
Trump activity started this war what are you on about, he legit was what Iran was to Palestine, he is to Israel.

I don't think eslshill is going to understand transitive relationship metaphors

>>1493343
to esl shill, shit is shinola

The death of American soldiers is tragic, but let's keep in mind this war has a 300:1 KD ratio

>>1493350
let's also keep in mind nobody wants to die for the whims of trump or his handlers

>>1493172
Anti-US militancy in Iran had its start in 1953 when the US staged a coup that deposed a secular, democratically elected government because they wanted to renegotiate existing oil contracts with the predecessor of British Petroleum. Any of you Iran pundits who don't know this history should read up on it.

>>1493350
Kda is 10:6
Israelis:Americans
No one is counting the iranians

>>1493350
Trump needs to be held accountable for any and all american deaths that occurred because of an unapproved act of war.

>>1493250
>It also bothers me how so many Christfags are supportive of a jewish ethnostate.
Evangelical-Pentecostal Protestants are gigantic retards who make the world dumber by exporting their bastardized religion and turning people into mindless fanatics. Israel knows this, which is why they endorse their missions in the poorest parts of the world. It's how Guatemala, which was once brutalized by a dictatorship openly trained and armed by Israel (with methods perfected against the Palestinians), is now one of Israel's biggest allies in the region. Same for Brazil and Argentina. And what's incredibly damning is that all these nations were some of the first to recognize Israel as an independent nation, and Israel literally returned the favor by training and arming violent and brutal dictators.

>>1493184
It's 2003 all over again. Time really is a flat circle

>>1493357
Nobody is going to hold Trump accountable in this life… Hell will have it’s chance though.

>>1493375
George W. Bush got Congress’ approval in 2003, however.

>>1493375
If it is 2003 again that means that democrats will stop protesting middle east wars when a black guy is pushing the button to drone strike a wedding

>>1493184
>And now it's "we had to stop them they were like a week away from a nuke"
Nobody said this except for the voices in your head that talked to you and make you angry on a near constant basis

>>1493388
>https://www.politico.com/news/2026/03/02/trump-claims-iran-missiles-could-have-hit-america-soon-00806907
>https://www.whitehouse.gov/articles/2026/03/74-times-president-trump-has-made-clear-that-iran-cannot-have-a-nuclear-weapon/
>https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-strike-comments-nuclear-threat-b2930372.html

>>1493388
The thing about nuclear criticality is, it's a threshold.

Once you approach that threshold, you are perpetually a few short steps from a viable device

Iran has been able to nuke Israel for decades now, they would just have to sneak a cargo truck in through security. As the years progress, the "size of the sneak" gets smaller, to the point where it can be on a missile without being too heavy.

They've had the capacity to dirty bomb for decades. The capacity to nuke from orbit is what is being suppressed

The military has now been told this is a Christian war to bring Armageddon. We are now experiencing a modern day crusades.

>>1493391
The thing that annoys me is that the guy they killed, the supreme leader, very clearly didn't want to nuke Israel for whatever reason. He forbade the building of nuclear weapons. And for all intents and purposes, IF ITS TRUE, then he made sure the country did not commit to it. He probably wants Israel gone, but he was probably aware of what would happen if a nuclear war starts.

And we killed him.

>>1493392
Good thing we don't have a Christian military then, faggot

America will prevail

>>1493394
Who told this jew to speak up? Who cares what you think?

>>1493393
Khameini was a weak point. Just like every strongman nation, whether it's Venezuela, Iran, Russia, China, or any of the other less important ones, having a strongman is now a weakness

Because strongmen are still men and strongmen can be killed

>>1493396
It doesn't matter if you care what I think, my viewpoints are widely echoed.

Enjoy your shrinking bubble full of feds and fags, I don't align myself with any site

>>1493398
He was 86 you retard. Half the people around him were waiting on him croaking.

>>1493357
>Trump needs to be held accountable for any and all american deaths that occurred because of an unapproved act of war.
I approve this act of war

>>1493021
>2025: "Trump is the no-new-wars president! No more foreign wars, America first!"
>2026: "War is based! Why shouldn't we spend billions regime changing for Israel in the middle east? We love war Trump!"

Its happened, boys. The last ounce of shame has been officially drained from the last MAGA corpse. They're now in full Jim Jones mode.

>>1493403
We could try comparing the total global casualties to war under Donald Trump's first term and Biden's.
Biden had the Russia-Ukraine war and Palestine-Israel war under his watch, which tilt the global war fatalities in his faovr

>>1493403
Bro, they've been onboard with conquering Canada and Greenland as soon as Trump began talking about it a month into his regime. Some of them are gloating that people were dumb enough to fall for it, acting like the only people who bought Trump's lies were the people who voted against him anyway. It's a lot like how they started gloating about Project 2025 as soon as Trump was sworn in and all the leftist rubes who believed Trump wasn't going to implement it.

>>1493026
Trump is kind enough to let the families mourn in peace while he uplifts the nation in these challenging times, so he talked about the ballroom to give people some small reprieve. People don't want to hear about the war. They want to put it out of their mind. There is enough to stress about in this life without adding the war and nuclear weapons on top.

>>1493412
No one cares about global fatalities most countries aren't important
Look at how unimportant Russia has become lmao plenty of death there

>>1493421
>let the families mourn in peace
Imagine losing your son or husband and the only response you get is "shit happens".

>>1493392
Protestants can’t be crusaders, dummy.

>>1493436
Stop us then you papist cocksucker you yielded agency centuries ago buckle up buckeroo its our time now

>>1493442
>its our time now
Yeah, fighting in the name of Zionism. lol

>>1493461
Can't have revelations without a zion
Do you hate Jesus

>>1493465
>Do you hate Jesus
Your overlords do. They’d wouldn’t wait on the Roman to kill him, they’d do it themselves .

>>1493484
Lol you believe in skydaddy