Noem had fallen in and out of Trump’s favor off and on over her tenure, but her comments this week before lawmakers over an ad campaign and whether Trump had approved it incensed the president pushed him over the edge.

In the congressional hearings on Tuesday and Wednesday, lawmakers also questioned Noem on a $200 million ad campaign she oversaw that urged anyone in the U.S. illegally to deport voluntarily. The ad campaign, which was conducted mostly in English, featured Noem. According to AdImpact, the Department of Homeland Security has spent almost $80 million to air these ads since the start of 2025, not including the cost of production.

Noem on Tuesday told the Senate panel that the president approved the multimillion-dollar ad campaign, a claim that the White House denied.

“POTUS did not sign off on a $220 MILLION dollar ad campaign. Absolutely not," a White House official told NBC News Thursday.

As Homeland Security Secretary, Noem has overseen a nationwide campaign to ramp up deportations of migrants and crack down on other forms of immigration, one of Trump’s key campaign promises.

But the administration’s actions in Minneapolis, including the deployment of thousands of federal troops to conduct immigration enforcement activities using at times brutal tactics, led to intense bipartisan criticism of Noem’s leadership of the Department of Homeland Security.

At Senate and House hearings this week, Noem faced questions from lawmakers on Capitol Hill over the deaths of two Americans who were killed by federal agents in Minneapolis and over the administration’s mass arrests of immigrants with no criminal records or convictions.

Noem declined to apologize for calling Renee Good and Alex Pretti, two Americans who have been killed by federal agents, “domestic terrorists,” though she conceded that investigations into the two deaths are still ongoing.

Republican Sens. Thom Tillis and Lisa Murkowski in January called for Noem to step down, with Tillis telling reporters he couldn’t “think of any point of pride over the last year” of her tenure.

Noem also garnered negative media attention for the Trump administration over her intent to purchase a $70 million luxury jet that she claimed would be renovated to accommodate deportation flights. Last month, current and former Coast Guard officials told NBC News that the relationship between Noem and Coast Guard officials had become strained.

Noem is the first Cabinet member of Trump’s administration to depart this term. Last year, Mike Waltz left his cabinet-level post as national security adviser after Trump nominated him to become U.N. ambassador.

Before serving in the Trump administration, Noem was the governor of South Dakota.

>>1494412
> Markwayne Mullin, will become the United States Secretary of Homeland Security (DHS), effective March 31, 2026
That isn't how senate confirmations work, Trumpy

>>1494420
>senate confirmations

Did you just wake up from a year-long coma?

>>1494425
Do you think this is the first or last time Trump has completely ignored Congress in a tweet?

another article:
https://www.themirror.com/news/politics/breaking-donald-trump-fires-kristi-1720574

I was just gonna post about this.

markwayne is just as bad.

also who the fuck names their kid markwayne

IF TRUMP CHOOSES SOMEONE NOT HOT AS HER REPLACEMENT, THATS NOW WE KNOW HE ISNT REALLY IN CHARGE ANYMORE

Any high ranking replacements in the Trump admin from this point on are only going to get worse.
Nobody competent wanted to join up with Trump when he started his second term which is how we ended up with the Vance/Bondi/Patel/Hegseth/Noem clown car.
That was when there was still a full term ahead of them and before Epstein, ICE, and Iran.
Now the Trump admin has all of that baggage and only eight months to go before Trump officially becomes a lame duck. The only people who would buy a ticket for this sinking ship are either true Kool Aid drinking lemmings who have no political future once Trump 2 ends, or genuine malicious actors looking to use the chaos to further their own goals.
It honestly won't surprise me if Trump appoints one of his own children to a senior cabinet position by the time his term ends just because literally no one else will say yes.

>>1494438
anyone playing on team trump has a golden parachute. they can do whatever they want, be as dumb as they want, steal and grift as much as they want, and there will be no repercussions. every single one of them will receive a pardon on the way out.

>>1494412
>Mullin
So we went from a dog murderer to a anti union nazi.
Conservatives always find someone worse.

>>1494435
Gays and femanons opinion requested, is Markwayne a hottie

>>1494439
Oh I'm not naive enough to imply anyone will ever be held accountable, I'm just talking about continuing political careers
The Republican party is going to do like they did after Dubya's tenure ended and cast out any high ranking officials of Trump's administration from holding higher office again, as part of a campaign to distance themselves from the catastrophic previous administration
Whoever the next Republican president is, they will be as hostile to bringing on members of Trump's administration as Trump was to bringing on Bush holdovers, in order to avoid being associated with Trump, whose name will be radioactive like the name Bush was and still is to this day

>>1494447
The best part is that each time they cancel the establishment the following administration loses access to a lot of talented bureaucrats who never really made any decisions for bush/trump.

Some of the swamp is structural and Republicans are going homeless

>>1494433
>also who the fuck names their kid markwayne
His parents did, the DNA didn't fall far from that tree.

I got an erection when Noem posed in that tight tank top in front of all those El Salvadorian prisoners.
I love pure evil woman, especially when they step on my penis

>>1494412
women with power is a disaster.

>>1494453
She didn’t even do anything wrong. Trump is just being a grouch, today.

>>1494459
Well aside from the numerous abuses of power, horrible PR, and a new corruption scandal because she got caught passing contracts for her bloated ad campaign to a personal friend and companies that were made two weeks before they got the contracts.

>>1494445
He's an MMA fighter in a senator skinsuit, so yeah he fits in well with Trump's preferred hiring pool

>>1494445
Manlet.

I hope a dog bites her. I hope that's just a thing that happens everywhere she goes.

>>1494463
he was hiding like a bitch on J6.

>>1494465
Thanks

>>1494463
>>1494465
Wow, the local lunatic terrorist Democrats are literally faggots. Who knew? (Me, they're all fags).

>>1494484
Democrats are officially the fag party
Republicans are officially the pedo party
I'll take fags over pedos any day of the week

>>1494485
100% of pedos are LGBTQ.
Nice try, though faggot.

>>1494487
You might have a point. Trump did suck off Bill Clinton...

>>1494488
Dang, post the video with Guilianni in drag again.
Don't worry, Bill Gates will save you from the pedos And Chuck Schumer will save you from dying for Israel.

AAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

He was fine keeping her around even though her brutal incompetence is actively turning public opinion against ICE and Border Patrol
But by blatantly perjuring herself before Congress yesterday she actually became a legal liability

>>1494489
I think we're fucked, sir.

>>1494487
Nope! Just repodicans

>>1494495
>repodicans
I can't respect someone who just messed up a portmanteau so bad. What a failed post.

>>1494487
Is that why Grindr keeps crashing at their events?

>>1494496
Posters have been throwing around "liggeral" for months, nobody's sending their best here.

>>1494499
I think that one complete describes the modern person who believes it's left wing. Lowest common denominator always homosexual, always mentally ill, completely lusting for power to do stupid fucking shit to accidentally (hopefully) damage the country and make things harder on everyone but billionaires who they think they hate, but all their activism always benefits.
Perhaps buying into the ad supported politics you hear on TV and share with paid social media influencers isn't a good idea?

>>1494502
Why would a nation wide ass prolapsing app have locale specific crashes?
Do fags not know how to configure servers?
Even gay Indian coders can do it.

>>1494487
Demonstrably false, there are many straight pedos who have been caught and convicted. Their first gay experience was in jail lmao

>>1494462
Ok but whattabout Biden huh

>>1494506
Yes they have servers, but when you fail to predict server load properly, sometimes you get caught out. Apps like Grindr won't pay 24/7 for server load that can handle peak traffic when the peak traffic only exists for a day or two at a time.

That's why grindr crashes at Republican conventions keep happening, and that's why it's become a meme.

>>1494509
All corruption regardless of the perpetrator's politics should be condemned and excised

>>1494509
Demonstrably worse than any president since Jimmy Carter without the redeeming altruism.
Have Democrat's abandoned the Biden agenda that got Kamala Harris so un-elected it probably still stings?
Who knows? All I ever hear is tax everything (except foreign goods) everyone loves, and "At least we're not Trump!"
I'll take my less expensive gas, and lower egg prices over any Democrat policy even if it's all I ever get (aside from low interest rates which are fucking awesome too).

>>1494513
I always love it when someone immediately parrots my diction thanks for the imitation anon sincerely

>>1494513
>Demonstrably worse than any president since Jimmy Carter
You've been get paid to derail threads about Trump's pedophilia and his team covering for it for the last year

>>1494513
you're literally not american

>>1494517
Trying to put Epstein's shit on Trump is part of the coverup, FYI.
I'm going to check the catalog for Bill Gate/Clinton threads. If there aren't any, I'll think you're simply being a shill.

>>1494519
this lie is a little too obvious, shill, maybe you should just rave about transexuals instead

>>1494523
Are mentally ill cosplayers relevant to this thread?

>>1494524
well, you're in this thread and you're a mentally ill individual cosplaying as an american

>>1494524
Your entire mission is to blather about nonsense that is irrelevant to this thread in order to derail it
Kristi Noem got shitcanned because she blatantly perjured herself before Congress yesterday. Care to comment on that?

>>1494531
I'm not emotionally invested in Noem. I'm sure you're happy though.

>>1494517
No one is a paid actor on this site, its a backwater. Your opinion has no financial value.

Don't worry, not a single pedo will escape. That's not a party issue, that's a Pedo vs The Rest of Us issue, and the pedos will lose.

44k more epstein documents set to drop tomorrow morning, including many Trump tried to withhold. Should make for an interesting weekend.

>>1494535
Oh shit they're going to nuke Iran tonight then

>>1494533
So you literally have nothing to contribute to that actual topic, you're just here to derail
>I'm not emotionally invested in Noem
We know. You get paid to do this.
>I'm sure you're happy though.
I'd be happy if the retarded pedophile in the Oval Office currently hadn't picked her in the first place.

>>1494537
>So you literally have nothing to contribute to that actual topic, you're just here to derail
The post I replied to asked a question, I gave an answer you fucking sperg.

>>1494531
She didn't get fired for perjury she got fired for looking like a fool while she did it. It's all about how things look with trump, not about the substance of what things are

>>1494539
The question was about the topic of the thread
Your little "I don't even care, whatever" act betrays one of two things.
1. You've already gotten marching orders to pretend you and the rest of MAGA weren't defending Noem up until two hours ago
2. You genuinely don't care about the topic of the thread, which means you have nothing to actually contribute to this thread and are just here to waste time and derail
Which is it?

>>1494546
Keep your false choices to yourself
Noem did a fine job and now Trump thinks someone else can do a better job, so he replaced her.

>>1494547
And he just happened to make that decision the day after she imploded in front of Congress, got exposed to defrauding American taxpayers to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars, and perjured herself by stating under oath that the president signed off on the spending for the ad campaign when the White House says he did not?

>>1494550
She did not do a fine job on her final day. That's often the case in employment.

>>1494552
Referring to committing easily demonstrable perjury before Congress as "not doing a fine job" is a hell of a spin
It begs the question, if she was willing to lie so flippantly and blatantly under oath, under penalty of years in prison, why should we believe a single word she's said or claim she has made since she was appointed to her position?
And if we can't trust anything she said, how can we possibly know if she did "a fine job" by any definition?

>>1494556
Ok bro don't overuse it now. Not everything has to be "demonstrable" there are other words

>>1494556
By the Mexicans she deported, duh. I would say "fine" is about the gist of it. Not terrible, but not great. She definitely didn't get them all, but the mission will continue without her

>>1494557
>No response
Yeah, that's what I thought

>>1494559
And from where do we get statistics on how many Mexicans she deported?

>>1494561
You can use a few different sites, both govt and private sector, both right and left, but the most impactful one that I've seen is:

wow.dhs.gov

You can sort deportees by nationality if you actually care about that.

>>1494562
>dhs.gov
That's the department whose head just had to resign for lying to Congress while under oath, right?

>>1494560
Try "undeniable perjury" or if you want to go for some flair you could go for "incontrovertible perjury"

>>1494567
How about "The bogged freak lied"?

>>1494563
If you don't trust the govt or the right, just use a left site.
But the wow list isn't lying, its at most misrepresenting. They only put the worst criminals on that site, you will never see someone on it for merely being in the country illegally, they are all murderers pedos etc. Only the real threats get a special mugshot site the boring illegal immigrant just gets quietly disappeared back to where they came from, or if it's not safe for them there, back to a different southern continent.

>>1494569
Perfectly cromulent she is bogged and she did get fact checked so hard she lost her job. I'm still a fan of the work she's had done, both on her body and in the field.

Wait, that story I've heard somewhere that this Woman spent 200 Mill. US tax payers money just for an questionable add campaign is actually TRUE? O.o"" And that story for using a big commercial Air plane for personal use may be also true? ^^" Wowy, I guess MAGAs can still excuse this shit somehow...

>>1494576
Give up there aren't emojis here

>>1494570
Here's the problem
Now that she's been caught in a lie in front of Congress and under oath, everything that has come out of her mouth or from her department during her tenure is in question
How can we trust that any of the people on that site actually committed the crimes it says they committed?
It's all based on the word of the DHS, the head of whom has just been fired for lying under oath
Lying like this from high ranking officials erodes trust in the entire system

>>1494581
It's not based on her word you weirdo. This is a really forced slippery slope you're shilling, won't catch me sliding.

the retard replacing her seems to be even worse and less qualified

>>1494583
He's undefeated I dare you to say that to his face

>>1494582
If she's willing to lie to Congress about things that can be easily proven, why wouldn't she be willing to instruct her subordinates to lie about things much less easily proven?
Maybe it's true, maybe it's not. We have no way of knowing now that the head of DHS has shown that lying is on the table.
Again, this is the problem with lying at the highest level like this. It poisons everything.

>>1494585
I said I'm not gonna slide respect my choice I don't consent to this weird vibe you have

>>1494587
You're free to stop commenting and leave at any time
But if you're going to stick around, explain why anyone should trust anything that has come from DHS since Noem took over after she lied under oath so blatantly Trump fired her the next day

>>1494589
Uh!
Yeah
Come on
Uh!

Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me

Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me

Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!

Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!
Fuck you, I won't do what you tell me!

Motherfucker!
Uh!

>>1494590
Lol, is that really the best you can do?

>>1494506
You realize if Grindr starts allocating additional bandwidth and resources for the site around conservative conventions and it stops crashing, thats confirming that the GOP are a party of closeted, self-hating homosexuals?

>>1494589
Was she appointed to deport illegal immigrants or to tell the truth to congress?
I literally don't care if she lied. She's in a delegated position and did her job (with the extra of killing a pair of violent homosexuals).
Local Democrat law makers though? Faggots. Not doing their job. More concerned with attaining power than enforcing the law.

>>1494589
>lied under oath
Prove it or it didn't happen right now, faggot.
>Trump fired her the next day
She's a woman. She deserves it.

>>1494594
That's not how it works, numbnuts.
In fact they probably offload it to AWS and don't even manage any servers because they're too busy jerking off to 'married couples' trading pics of their adopted children in the DMs.

>>1494576
She doesn't get to keep the plane you dingleberry now it's mullin's plane

>>1494598
>She's a woman. She deserves it.
Gotta say her fuck illegals strategy was pretty aggressive for a woman. It really pissed off the local liggerals who raised militias of hobos and faggots to fight them, exposing how compromised these cities are by crazy Democrat activists.
You know, I was starting to think that election fraud in MN didn't happen in 2020, but these crazy homos are willing to sacrifice their lives to keep apportionment numbers and congressional seats so they probably did risk jail time for it.

>>1494601
you're not white or american

>>1494602
Aw man, I hoping you'd employed the Hemingway solution.
I guess your ban just ended, huh?

>>1494602
Fuck off, faggot. You have the same tired refrain in every thread, I'd wager that everyone you reply to is white and American and you're a brown dyke from shitskinistan.

>>1494601
That's fair, yeah. Her rhetoric was fine and it sure did piss off the browns, but she should still be back at home raising children and not sucking up a nice government job that should be occupied by a man. Using the fact that she's a woman to make it slightly more okay to say the things she's saying is just intellectual cowardice. We should tell the browns they need to fuck off or they'll get arrested or killed because its the right thing to do and because this is our nation and not theirs, we don't need protected classes to convey that message for us.

>>1494598
She said, under oath, that Trump signed off on the 200 million in taxpayer dollars she spent on her stupid ad campaign
Within 24 hours, the White House made an official statement saying Trump did not sign off on the 200 million in taxpayer dollars, and Trump announced she was being replaced as head of DHS
So either she lied under oath or Trump is lying and threw her under the bus to cover up his lie
Which would you prefer?

>>1494605
>it sure did piss off the browns,
It appears to have pissed off the homos since DHS has a record of two dead fags killed, neither of which were brown because illegals literally don't care. And if you were to find an admitted illegal alien and ask them who Pretti and Good were, you'd probably get a hearty "Que?"

>>1494606
>Which would you prefer?
All illegals deported
All fags ground into a pate and fed to blacks in lieu of foodstamps.

>>1494608
>Incoherent spittle
Literally mindbroken lol

>>1494606
>So either she lied under oath or Trump is lying and threw her under the bus to cover up his lie
I'm guessing she panicked and lied under oath. Trump realized she's screwed regardless so he didn't back her up and ousted her to avoid the bad optics of her getting impeached.

>>1494604
>>1494605
the truth sure seems to upset you

>>1494611
I think he's just cycling the staff tbh. Dealing with being a constant target of liggeral trash is probably exhausting.
If only they'd police their own party in this same fashion perhaps we never would've had to experience an economic Bidengeddon caused by Bidenflation.
(But let's be honest here, Biden literally has half a brain and was just a puppet president for the interest groups that control the Democrats will no will or policy of his own)

>>1494614
You think that's the same person? What a tard.

>>1494615
can you use real words please, esl shill

>>1494605
>Our nation
Keep us posted

>>1494612
I mean, she still lied under oath and is subject to perjury charges.

>>1494615
Do you guys project this hard on purpose to make the libs mad, or do you actually believe all this stuff?

>>1494620
He sounds like a fox news viewer. Most of them just sound like Nazis but that one watches fox

>>1494620
they actually believe they're making liberals mad
your post and this post is proof that we're mad as hell to them

>>1494619
https://govfacts.org/criminal-justice-public-safety/criminal-courts-legal-process/pardons-clemency/the-presidential-pardon-power/

>>1494619
Meh, federal. That's a case only a retard would bother with.

>>1494623
Exactly, it'll be legal for the next US President to order the FBI to round up the Trump admin and force them to dig their own mass grave on live TV.
The President pardons the shooters, and is protected themselves by presidential immunity

>>1494619
I mean more in the context of "This will be used as an excuse to remove her either way, might as well oust her myself so I don't have an impeachment on my record"

>>1494623
>>1494624
so it's okay to do bad things if daddy trump says so

>>1494622
Everytime I see another conservative is actually a Nazi I feel reassured that the future is wholly ours and that Nazis will never be in power again and they will always be an albatross for the republicans

>>1494626
https://usconstitution.net/double-jeopardy-protection-explained/

>>1494631
>implying republicans respect the constitution
LOL

>>1494628
As long as you cover up his fuckups for him you have a guaranteed pardon yup

>>1494620
Yes, I believe Biden fucked up the economy because there is tangible evidence of policies enacted by his administration fucking up the economy.
And Noem is getting a new position in the government.
And as for being a target, I wouldn't even know who in the fuck ran the DHS if she wasn't constantly targeted since I don't even know the names of any DHS heads that have ever existed.

>>1494634
you don't believe anything you post, you're just paid to lie

>>1494617
No, I'm addicted to portmanteaus, Sheroy.

>>1494632
They do. So do Democrats. Sometimes it takes a while for the politician to be forced to respect the Constitution but we have never had a case of direct insubordination to it by a lawmaker which went unpunished.
Courts just take a while sometimes. And change the constitution other times. But everyone listens to the original document even if interpretations differ (I'm not getting into constitutional law on this forum, it would be too exhausting to carry chat)

>>1494636
at least you know to respond to your name, esl shill

>>1494635
If you call hoping not to get raped by Democrat's Death to America policies paid, I suppose I do in that I will have more money.

>>1494623
>>1494624
I don't know. We're getting into midterm season and Republicans are already on the defensive. Democrats pursuing this and forcing Trump to pardon his DHS head for blatantly lying to Congress might be a shrewd political move.

>>1494639
weird fetish but ok

>>1494636
K but using a flash in the pan like Biden to craft your language just makes you look obsessed with him even after he's out of power

Reaganomics. Now that was a fundamental shift worthy of the term. Biden didn't do shit to earn a slot in the dictionary much less the 1/3 of your fauxnews vibe diction that you ascribe to him

>>1494638
You do know that you clicked the post number when you replied, right?
Are you good? Did they switch up your HIV meds or something?

>>1494644
calm down esl shill, you're starting to project your sexual fantasies on us again

>>1494642
>Biden
>flash in the pan
OK so you're like a retard right?

>>1494438
>It honestly won't surprise me if Trump appoints one of his own children to a senior cabinet position by the time his term ends just because literally no one else will say yes.
The government is already effectively run by Shadow Prime Minister Steven Miller and Israel go-between Jared Kushner.

>>1494642
>Reaganomics
Oh and Reaganomics worked. It solved a couple decades of economic stagnation.

>>1494648
LOL

>>1494646
No I am being sincere. Imo his legacy will be largely eclipsed by contemporaneous events mainly COVID. He just wasn't that important, or impactful. Once foxnews has a new pinata you'll agree with me, and condemn him to irrelevance where he belongs.

>>1494648
I didn't advocate for the policy, I merely said that it was sufficiently impactful to be worthy of its own Word.

I agree, we are still feeling the impacts of Reagan. I seriously doubt we will feel the impact of the wet noodle that was Biden 35 years after his term...

>>1494646
It's hard to evaluate these things when you're a teenager. Stick around for a few more cycles.

>>1494651
We're actually still feeling the impact of Clinton. The 90s and to the 00s were comfy times.
And you say that, but we're still feeling the effects of Biden's time in congress. And you're still fighting against all the policy he voted for. So we'll be feeling the effects of Biden for decade to come, but I do get your point.

>>1494634
>I wouldn't even know who in the fuck ran the DHS if she wasn't constantly targeted since I don't even know the names of any DHS heads that have ever existed.
Literally for the last year every time I put on the radio while driving I've gotten at least one "I'm Kristi Noem, head of DHS" ICE ad.

>>1494655
>Biden in Congress
>Biden in the presidency
I concede the point. Biden was HUGE in the Senate. He became a senator at age 29!!! Thats INSANE. Honestly his senate proficiency is the only reason he ever got on a national ticket, but once he got into executive office he didn't do much either under Obama or in his own admin

>>1494656
I've never heard one, but I don't live in a state that provides illegal safe haven to aliens.

>>1494659
yeah, we know, you're not american

Also, don't assume my politics or you'll be caught shortfooted. I don't support either party, I determine who I want to vote for individually each time. "Independent" will do as a placeholder to describe me.

>>1494658
It's also notable that he voted against desegregation, and the Biden crime bill militarized police and caused the mass incarceration of blacks. He also voted for the Iraq war.
He was literally the most retarded person to head the modern Democrat party. And he was elected solely on the strength of a mutli-billion dollar propaganda campaign.
As the figurehead of the party for 4 years with a Democrat congress he enacted the current Democrat agenda which was disastrous for the US economy.
He was a continuation of whatever Clinton and Obama were trying to do, which seems like sell the country to China and other foreign interests by wrecking US industry, dividing and impoverishing the country to weaken it.

>>1494660
yeah, we know, you're not american

>>1494663
Time will tell. I don't think he was as important as you do but it's ok to differ.

>>1494664
Just report the posts and give the spam anon another vacation.

>>1494634
She's not actually getting a new position
Or rather, if she is, it's being shoved in a broom closet and forgotten about until Trump gives her the Sessions treatment and fires her the day after midterms

>>1494663
god you project a lot

>>1494663
>which seems like sell the country to China and other foreign interests by wrecking US industry, dividing and impoverishing the country to weaken it.
Switch out “China” for “billionaires and himself” and that’s what Trump’s doing. Is there a connection here?

>>1494666
As stated he wasn't. Clinton was where it started, and Biden was a continuation.
It doesn't matter who the figurehead of the Dems are. There's a direction they're attempting to move the country in that transcends time and individualism.

>>1494672
nixon was where it started, but i'm sure that doesn't fit your agenda

>>1494672
I suspect that Clinton was where actually where you began your own journey in the political sphere. It goes back further, much further. If you study it, it doesn't matter when you were born/reached the age of intellectual maturity.

>>1494673
Nixon? Actually it was Roosevelt, but that probably doesn't align with what you believe.
The economy was already in a downturn when Nixon took over.

>>1494675
you should stop posting and read a book or two

>>1494670
Yes. It is best summarized by the following famous passage from 1984, in which Big Brother changes which nation they are at War with, mid-speech.

"The speech had been proceeding for perhaps twenty minutes when a messenger hurried on to the platform and a scrap of paper was slipped into the speaker's hand. He unrolled and read it without pausing in his speech. Nothing altered in his voice or manner, or in the content of what he was saying, but suddenly the names were different. Without words said, a wave of understanding rippled through the crowd. Oceania was at war with Eastasia! The next moment there was a tremendous commotion. The banners and posters with which the square was decorated were all wrong! Quite half of them had the wrong faces on them. It was sabotage! The agents of Goldstein had been at work! There was a riotous interlude while posters were ripped from the walls, banners torn to shreds and trampled underfoot. The Spies performed prodigies of activity in clambering over the rooftops and cutting the streamers that fluttered from the chimneys. But within two or three minutes it was all over. The orator, still gripping the neck of the microphone, his shoulders hunched forward, his free hand clawing at the air, had gone straight on with his speech. One minute more, and the feral roars of rage were again bursting from the crowd. The Hate continued exactly as before, except that the target had been changed."

>Hate may change
>But America Prevails

>>1494676
Maybe you should read more if you think I need to read a book.

>>1494676
Got any recommendations?

>>1494678
do you have a memoir or something, esl shill

>>1494670
Billionaires don't like paying tariffs for their Chinese goods is what you really mean.

>>1494678
>>1494679
Hbu?

>>1494682
No, it’s not.

>>1494676
>>1494678
I've asked both of you for recommendations. In anticipatory payment for yours, here is one from me:

The Law of Nations, Emer de Vattel
Hugely impactful work that formed many of the American founding fathers philosophy regarding international relations. Not as dense as it looks, much of the work is merely defining the terms used in the rest of the work.
Here's a free copy
https://foundationfortruthinlaw.org/Files/The-Law-of-Nations-or-the-Principles-of-Natural-Law-(1758)Emmeric.pdf

>>1494679
For you? If you want to interact with modern politics I'd recommend and book about Taxi Medallions.

>>1494449
>love pure evil woman, especially when they step on my penis

You had your penis surgically removed

>>1494687
>1758
So, you're a faux educated faggot huh?
Got anything more modern?

>>1494667
Thank you for the advice, sincerely. I believe in a more public discipline than the Jannies offer, and this site/board can't afford to lose too many users.
Also there's just something about snitching that doesn't sit right with me. If I can't solve my own problem, I'll find a different path.

>>1494691
But it's literally a bot. If you search the archive there's over 15,000 of these same posts.
So either report and give the bot a rest or ignore the posts. Respamming the spam from that fucking bot doesn't help.

>>1494690
Certainly. Same topic I recommend:
Knowledge and Politics, Roberto Mangabeira Unger. (1975)

This one, however, is extremely dense. The titles of the sections are misleading, it's not a liberal book rather a product of its time. A time before such blatant politicization, when an intellectual could address the welfare state without being canceled by 50% of the country.

As I said, this one will require you to have an actual attention span. He doesn't coddle you.

>>1494692
I will take this into consideration in the future. I don't believe anyone would waste the time to bot 4chan and if they did I don't believe they would do it on /news/. Thanks, I'll keep an eye out for it!

>>1494684
Oh, that's what you should mean. But considering you simply exist to be a blunt instrument to accidentally suck off billionaire's (who are way fucking more intelligent that you) and to manufacture consent for them in hopes that you'll get to have rougher gay sex with smaller boys, I wouldn't expect you to understand.

>>1494695
>I don't believe
Well, beliefs aside, they do. And if they can't use bots they just raid the board. 10 years of this shit. Ever since 4chan was indicted as having helped Trump get elected.
So believe whatever it is you like.

>>1494697
Blunt instruments are terrible at sucking off im sure billionaires can afford better

>>1494699
No one's a better cocksucker than a Demoshill.

>>1494701
I've actually found that conservative women are the most skillful and accommodating. Even more so than the conservative men. Yes, I've had both kneel for me. But the enthusiasm isn't there unless I really humiliate the males and tbh I'm mostly a pleasure sadist, I don't actually want to break someone's mind.

>>1494697
Holy fucking schizo.

>>1494698
I don't see the comment you've highted posted frequently enough to think it's a bit effort. But my vigilance is raised, thanks. I probably won't reply, heads up. This is getting off topic.

>>1494705
Bot* effort

>>1494705
This board is dead enough it can handle off topic posts

>>1494707
Highlighted* fuck sorry I'm too drunk for /news/ apparently. I'm going to /pol/ with the rest of the garbage

>>1494709
Ew. /news is a sober board.

>>1494710
AT LEAST I CAN NAME A FUCKIN BOOK WHEN IM DRUNK LMAO
those cucks haven't given me anything in return :'(
I'm starting to think they're illiterate and using text-to-speech to post

>>1494711
Most modern knowledge isn't published in books.

>>1494712
You are incorrect, anon. Most modern knowledge at the very least is published in a white paper format.

If you are not familiar, heres a definition:
https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/whitepaper.asp

But to say that modern knowledge isn't published is an absolute tell

>>1494429
We didnt hear much from congress when ole Obama was unleashing all sorts of drone hell across multiple ME countries...now did we squirt?

>>1494512
You'll be silent as a church mouse when a Dem is back in power and we all know it

>>1494715
obama didn't explicitly state that he was trying to bring about the apocalypse though

>>1494676
>>1494678
You have both seriously let me down by btfo the thread when I asked for recommendations. Literate people don't shut up about books. You're both cosplaying and I denounce you.

>>1494716
Don't assume my politics, it will disappoint you every time. I know it breaks peoples brains, but I am neither repub nor demo

>>1494718
you let yourself down, have some accountability shill

>>1494720
I'm happy to take a look at myself. I feel ive represented myself honestly, frankly, and courteously. My weekend starts on Thursday (benefit of being your own boss) and I won't apologize for that

>>1494715
Times Obama started a regional war in the ME: 0

>>1494723
you don't have to justify yourself to us, just yourself, shill

>>1494719
>Muh both sides
I never used to be until I realized that Democrats are pure evil. There is no evil more evil than them.
And with the hopelessly fucked up way US politics has engrained the two party system, threre's only one choice left.
And that choice is gone once Trump leaves office as the uniparty will march on toward digital ID, digital fines, digital taxation and whatver horrors our fully lobbied "representative" have in store for us in the future that nobody wants and no rational personal would think of or advocate for.

>>1494727
>Muh both sides
Neither side
Like I said, it's a brain breaker. Welcome to the true redpill.

>>1494727
nerd

>>1494727
Thats actually a symptom of sucking too much pedophile dick.
Thats not actual fellatio, mind you, but a metaphorical 'sloppy toppy' to rich assholes who fuck children and get blackmailed into supporting another Israeli warcrime

>>1494726
Sall good brah

>>1494727
>I never used to be until I realized that Democrats are pure evil. There is no evil more evil than them.
The repubs may have just started WW3 and did so to bring about the end of the world.

>>1494730
>Thats actually a symptom of sucking too much pedophile dick.
Projection.

>>1494728
The true redpill, for you, is you can't affect anything while simply sitting on a fence.
>>1494729
I'm a hillbilly from a flyover state though.
>>1494730
I'm not a Democrat though, as stated. I think billionaires use Democrat fools like (You) who lack critical thinking skills.
I think the question you have to ask yourself is, "If billionaires are so evil, are they evil enough to use me even though I hate them?"
The anwer is that the Occupy movement terrifed them, and they've been directing you ever since. Wagged tagged and bagged little fag.

>>1494732
>The repubs may have just started WW3 and did so to bring about the end of the world.
Yet you skoff when I tell you that this is literally the endgame of jews, to bring strife to call out their true messiah.
Any Christian who doesn't know that Christianity was created as a rebuke of Judaism is no Christian.

>>1494733
but I'm not a Democrat, I'm a Republican
what else are you wrong about?
what other truths have been painted over with pedophile semen?
as long as you sit there guzzling you'll never get clean

>>1494736
Like Gates? Clinton? Schumer who Epstein donated to?
You might wanna plug the holes in your stupid little fag bucket.

>>1494733
Who built the fence?
I am a Steward.

>>1494739
>Who built the fence?
Democrats actually built it for people who hate their bullshit, but feel bad about voting for Republicans because they're evil (they are too but not destructively evil).
So, enjoy the feel of the post in your ass. It's what you deserve.

>>1494738
awwww, someones irrationally angry that Trump fucked kids

>>1494741
I'm angry you're detracting by trying to win an election and by doing so obfuscating everything else attached to Epstein like his Mossad connections.

>>1494676
>>1494678
This is your chance to spread your ideology to a wider audience. Which books do you recommend?

>>1494742
>Mossad connections
Trump literally just started a war for Israel

>>1494745
I know. But Trump's only been in politics for like a decade.
Epstein's operated for like 30 years before being arrested, prosecuted and conviced by TRUMPS DOJ fucking finally.

>>1494745
Israel started a war and trump was too cucked to claim it hes a little butch dyke who has no idea whether he is safe or not he just waits for the press releases

>>1494746
>Trump fucks kids with Epstein
>Epstein sends tapes to his Mossad contact
>Trump enters politics
>Trump gets blackmailed and starts a war in the Middle East, as Republican Presidents do
>you are sucking pedophile cock and pretending I'm mad about it
so anyway you're retarded

>>1494744
I recommend you get your nose out of ancient media.
You're probably the kind of ass that thinks you're superior because you listen to classical music, and admire paintings by Van Gough (pronouncing if "Goff" like a wine aunt fuckwit pseudo-intellectual).
So, the last true good books were the Harry Potter series. RIP, printed media. Enjoy the recommendation.

>>1494747
Projecting
Your family might die, my lineage is protected

>>1494749
Harry potter is gay and so are you

>>1494748
OK so Schumer is involved too, and Clinton, and who else?
Why focus on dRumpf? I know the motive, and it's the midterm elections after which Epstein will be back out of the media, getting the COVID treament.
I'm sick of this type of shit.

>>1494752
Nah, Potter is a godly series. I bet you feel it's a 'pedestrian' recommendation. But it's true. There have been almost no books of worth printed since Potter.

>>1494753
schumer and clinton aren't starting wars in the middle east because they were taped fucking kids

>>1494761
What is the evidence of anyone in trumps administration fucking kids?
You are a Q-Anon tier conspiracy theorist.

>>1494718
Fuck you both. You each said to one another "read more books" and yet when I asked for a book rec, you btfo.
>>1494676
>>1494678
You're both illiterate until proven otherwise.
>>1494749
I can beat you in HP 20 questions despite boycotting the series entirely ever since JK came out as a crazy cat lady.
Youll just google, so we can never play, but if we were on a long car trip, you would be losing to answers like Mosag and Magorian. Thank you for the recommendation sincerely, but I wasn't asking for children's books. Do you have any adult literature to recommend? The fact that you said Harry Potter and not Percy Jackson or another younger series means you're 100% an adult, so you should have at least one adult recommendation to share.

>>1494754
I respect and thank your recommendation for children's fiction (despite issues with the author), but I was hoping for something adult. And something I hadnt fucking heard of. Recommending Harry Potter is like recommending fucking Ketchup.

>>1494763
There are 47k more files being released in a few hours time. Many of those were files that Trump personally ensured were withheld.
Here's a source.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/missing-epstein-files-justice-department-b2931925.html

Buckle up buckeroos.

>>1494754
It's a bit quotidian but I respect you for giving an answer. Harry Potter made a lot of money just like ketchup made a lot of money, both are fun to consume.

>>1494647
Kushner's the Arab go-between, actually. Literally any major business deal involving Arabian slush funds has him at the highest levels.

>>1494777
Trump has released millions of these epstein files while he was president
How many Epstein files did the last democrat release while he was president?

>>1494839
this is just getting sad, shill

>>1494845
It seems like Biden protected pedos, while Trump's administration has been releasing the files since month 1
www.justice.gov/opa/pr/attorney-general-pamela-bondi-releases-first-phase-declassified-epstein-files

>>1494846
your lies are 0% believable and your job is fake

>>1494848
Well why don't you try telling me some lies about how many of these epstein files were released by Biden, and we can see how convincing your lies can be

>>1494851
why don't you get a real job esl shill

>>1494851
Nothing you say will save him. Keep trying though, I'm making popcorn.

>>1494853
What do you do for work besides calling people esl shills?

>>1494856
i don't really consider you a person, esl shill, people have dignity and you lack even infinitesimal shreds of that quality

>>1494855
Just 2 more weeks until drumpf gets impeached for colluding with russia, I mean for that phone call with ukraine, I mean because he is a pedo

>>1494873
Impeachment does nothing. clinton was impeached and stayed president. we have other routes available now that these documents have finally been released

>>1494880
What are the other routes?

>>1494412
It was for corruption, a kind of corruption that used to be routine in government, kick backs to donors. ""no-bid contracts awarded to firms with direct ties to her political operation" https://unmuzzlednews.com/kristi-noem-made-one-fatal-mistake-that-got-her-fired/

>>1494898
No it was for one thing and one thing only:
She made trump look bad.
The second anyone does that, he fires them and moves on to the next asskisser

>>1494898
>>1494902
Mix of the two; she implicated Trump in it by saying he knew. Whether or not he actually did is one thing, but the moment he said "No I didn't" she wad fucked. He doesn't want an impeachment of someone in a position so important to him on his record so he got rid of her himself because as soon as she did that, she was fucked.

>>1494928
Nope just because she made him look bad.
If she had somehow managed to make him look good, if she said "hell yeah trump took kickbacks, he's a brilliant man who knows how to get money" and everyone clapped then she'd still be employed

>>1494930
She already had enough heat on her from Minnesota that Republicans weren't going to protect her. The moment something outright illegal/impeachable was discovered she was cooked.

>>1494938
Heat from what in MN?

>>1494940
From making trump look bad

>>1494940
just skip to the part where you repeat obvious lies

>>1494940
Don't pretend like the whole ICE operation didn't wind up horrifically unpopular. She really fucked up smearing Good and ESPECIALLY Pretti immediately instead of saying some "we'll be looking into the situation" bullshit. Her (now final) hearing basically consisted of her backtracking on it because she realized she put her whole agency in some deep shit on both a PR and legal level.

>>1494753
>Schumer
>epstein
Is he?

Lol the Senate is already perusing perjury charges against her
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2026/mar/06/kristi-noem-congress-investigation
Hopefully they time it right so Trump will be forced to pardon her right before midterms

>>1494438
oh cause the democrats have such a great collection of alzeimers and fraud kingpins doing an amazing job running their state huh
the only ones ever voting democrats are retards who will willingly jump in the way of a car and get iced.

>>1494485
democrats are fags and pedophiles anon. do you seriously think hollywood is republican centric? lmao

>>1495000
>Haha!
>I literally don't care about any of the shit I say
>I just want to win an election
We know

>>1494942
How does he look bad for removing illegals in MN?
>>1494944
Democrats literally called in shit disturbers who crossed state lines to die for illegals.
No one cared.

>>1495010
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST WANT YOUR ENEMIES TO LOSE!
Neutered faggot

>>1495011
you really should refrain from sucking cock so sloppily on this sfw board, poltard

>>1495014
hey esl shill, you should copy this one too

>>1495014
>>1494943
>>1495096
just skip to the part where you repeat obvious lies

>>1495098
the thread is about a disgraced puppy killing whore, esl shill. stay on topic

>>1495099
the thread is about a disgraced puppy killing whore, esl shill. stay on topic

>>1494944
unpopular to leftist domestic terrorists. the rest of the world stopped caring after video showed her being an obnoxious karen and trying to run him over.
same with the guy with the defective gun

>>1495106
is that why that dumb cunt got fired?

>>1495106
I love how you're sticking to this story even after Noem herself abandoned it. And the "defective" gun bit is literally just fanfic; not only is it not the case but not even the admin tried to claim it was.

>>1495108
oh alright then so a domestic terrorist charged at police officers and verbally assaulted them while intentionally offloading his gun. that's so much better
>>1495107
i believe the term you're looking for is scapegoat

>>1495109
esl shill, don't ever tell me what term i'm looking for

>>1495109
>>1495110
Talking to himself. These are the same anon. Why?

>>1495111
does this constitute as humor where you're from, esl shill

>>1495112
No I am actually asking you or anyone who can explain why you are talking to yourself and pretending it's multiple people. Why do this?

>>1495109
>oh alright then so a domestic terrorist charged at police officers and verbally assaulted them while intentionally offloading his gun.
even bigger fanfic lol. Also what the fuck do you mean by "intentionally offloading"? That's not even a phrase. Offloading refers to selling or moving guns.

>>1495113
you are actually a shill

>>1495115
Fine, keep your secrets bipolar anon, I was just curious.

>>1495121
it's not fine that you're a shill, there's a good chance that you will be punished for being a shill at some point in the future

>>1495124
But will he be punished for having English as a second language?

>>1495125
of course not

>>1495124
Feels pretty fine to be me but please, keep up the crazy it's entertaining me. Whats it like being you? Or the other you? I'm not picky which of your personalities I get to speak with today.

>>1495114
sure gunnut, w/e you say, he fired his gun intentionally keep making excuses for domestic terrorists
>>1495111
retard alert 2nd guy isn't me you've been arguing with yourself ESL dipshit
>>1495126
americans can't tell the difference so does it really matter at the end of the day

>>1495127
at least you admit you're a shill. hope you keep that same energy when we're rounding you up

>>1495128
>>1495129
Wow you answered me 20 seconds after I posted. And then 1:20 seconds after I posted.
I figured out why you talk to yourself. You're constantly refreshing a mostly dead board and starved for interaction, like one of those animals in a 3rd world zoo that starts to pick at itself because it has no enrichment.
I'm going to laugh at you now you poor animal. Get help

>>1495130
have a rupee

I bet Kristi Nome was fired because she was a girl. Tulsi Gabbard is next.

>>1494442
That Mullin fellow sounds based. Thanks for the heads-up.