https://newrepublic.com/post/208820/pentagon-threatened-pope-criticized-donald-trumpRelations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”One U.S. official present at the meeting brought up the Avignon papacy, a period in the 14th century in which the French monarchy bent the Catholic Church into submission, ordering an attack on Pope Boniface VIII that led to his downfall and subsequent death and forcing the papacy to relocate from Rome to Avignon, a region inside France.The Trump administration had taken issue with the pope’s critique of its militaristic proclivities. Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and other top Pentagon officials were particularly aggrieved by portions of Leo’s January 9 speech in which the pope argued that “a diplomacy that promotes dialogue and seeks consensus among all parties is being replaced by a diplomacy based on force,” and that “war is back in vogue, and a zeal for war is spreading.”The pope’s address was dissected line by line and interpreted as a hostile message toward the administration, reported Letters from Leo Substack writer Christopher Hale.
It was difficult not to interpret Leo’s comments as an immediate commentary on Donald Trump’s second administration, which had at that point bombed Iran’s nuclear facilities, kidnapped Venezuelan leader Nicolas Maduro, fiercely advocated for the dissolution of NATO, and threatened America’s allies, including claiming that the U.S. would seize control of Canada and Greenland.But the blatant intimidation tactic is the first of its kind ever made by American officials to the Catholic Church. There are no public records of any previous meetings between Vatican and U.S. officials at the Pentagon, let alone an instance in which the world power suggested that it could force the Bishop of Rome into captivity.The Vatican was so alarmed by the Pentagon’s warning that Pope Leo cancelled his plans to visit the U.S. later in the year, reported Hale, who noted that “many in the Vatican saw the Pentagon’s reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.”
Tensions had not been mended by February, when the Holy See rejected the White House’s invitation to host Pope Leo—the religious order’s first U.S.-born pontiff—for America’s 250th anniversary in July. Instead, the Catholic leader has arranged to visit a very different locale on July 4: Lampedusa, a tiny island between Tunisia and Sicily where North African immigrants wash ashore by the thousands.“Robert Francis Prevost is too deliberate a man to have chosen that date by accident,” commented Hale.The White House has dismissed the entire account, writing in a statement to reporter Barbara Starr that “the Free Press’s characterization of the meeting is highly exaggerated and distorted.”“The meeting between Pentagon and Vatican officials was a respectful and reasonable discussion,” the Defense Department official continued. “We have nothing but the highest regard and welcome continued dialogue with the Holy See.”
>>1504544If they want to regain any legitimacy (and probably save Hegseth from being fucking excommunicated) they'll immediately fire the retard who said this and claim he acted on his own.They won't, but I'm just saying.
>>1504547This is fake news and the woke pope is a faggot anyways. His country's birthday and he's spending it worshipping North African rapefugees instead of attending the festivities at his presidents request. Traitor-tier
>>1504548Imagine having the first American pope and threatening him because he won't go along with your perversion of christian values.
>>1504547American evangelicals like Kegsbreath hate Catholics. Only Vance is a Catholic larper.
>>1504544Threatening the FUCKING POPE. Actually comically evil. Like just fucking stupid evil. Are they going to actually start eating orphan puppies or some shit next?
>>1504554Threatening the pope for disavowing your threats to literally annihilate a civilization is like, supervillain behavior.
>>1504554pope is just the head of chistfags who worship an entire made up thing. pope should be mocked relentlessly desu.
>>1504558>>1504558you're just saying that because you're mocked relentlessly aren't you
>>1504559no one mocks or cares that im agnostic. ive heard incredibly cringe retorts to my viewpoint from christfags but thats about it.
>>1504544oh common you literally have an american pope and ur still complaining, or maybe its just some fake dissent to pretend they aren't actually colluding like a good evil empire.
>>1504544Trump being the antichrist sounds more legit every day.
>>1504562It will sound even more legit when his AI mind-uploaded form is declared the new antipope and the owner of SpaceX uses his authority gained by making fire come down from the sky to make you worship his image, haha.
>>1504558>Trump is just the head of magafags who worship an entire made up thing, Trump should be mocked relentlessly desu.
>>1504556>likeNah, it just is supervillain behavior.Also lmao at the idea that the USA has any leverage over the Catholic Church. The only thing dumber than making this threat is making this empty threat.
>>1504549trump by all logic is the anti Christ, of course he wants to take down the pope.
>>1504562>>1504586Don’t fall into the same trap of declaring your own theological position without any consensus or understanding of actual theologians and established theology pertaining to the eschatological beliefs of not only the mainstream Christian churches but also Islam
>>1504544Oh look, another TDS thread.
>>1504595Take your hand wringing to /pol/, the board Epstein created, along with your fellow pedophile here >>1504596
>>1504619Trump is not The Antichrist. He should be impeached yesterday, he’s destroying America
>>1504621Good job proving he's the anti christ given he's destroying America.
>>1504544Welp, time to excommunicate Vance's heretical ass then.
>>1504619>REEEEE GO BACK TO /POL/ NOWNope.
>>1504548>it didn't happen and even if it did he deserved it
>>1504623source on a sign of the Antichrist being the Antichrist destroying America What I know about the Antichrist is that he is a man and he will claim to be king of the world and he will either pretend to be or claim to be Jesus, which is what Antichrist means like how there’s the Arctic and the Antarctic. The Christian eschatology is a bit vague on the details but the Islamic eschatology is clear on some details
>>1504631Don’t trust Americans on any of this stuff, every single president they’ve ever had has probably been declared an Antichrist by some other American
>here's you based and trad christian president bro
>>1504631>>1504632The antichrist is supposed to be an extremely charismatic figure who unites the world under a new religion.Trump is not the fucking antichrist, Trump is a sad, divisive, demented old man, most people (looking at the entire world) hate him, and he's using christianity.
>>1504661>The antichrist is supposed to be an extremely charismatic figureSo he is the anti christ
>>1504661I don't take those stories completely literally, it's just a warning about the type of shitstain politicians that will try to bring you to ruin. And it that sense, Trump is definitely an antichrist.
This article is yet another smoking gun of how the US media is fully controlled by and has a strong right wing bias given no one is reporting on it.Imagine if Obama threatened the pope, it would be every where.
>>1504544protestants work for the jews
>>1504661Barron is the Antichrist. Trump has never had sex(vaginal) with Melania, so she was a virgin when she was impregnated by Satan. I know she was a sex worker before she married tRump, but she only was permitted anal and oral sex by her satanic pimps. tRump is basically the John Cassavetes character, Guy Woodhouse, in the movie, Rosemary's baby. This is how he became POTUS. The Illuminati has been controlling these events for a long time
>>1504661>The antichrist is supposed to be an extremely charismatic figure who unites the world under a new religioThe anti-christ isn't a single person. It's anybody who denies Christ's message.You're thinking of the false prophet. A christ-like figure that can perform miracles and convinces everybody to give up their religion so they can use a global currency.
inquisition for migatards when?
>>1504693The Arabic name for the Antichrist is Al-Masih ad-Dajjal and literally means the false messiah, as in he will be an imposter pretending to be the messiah.
>>1504693>>1504710I forgot to clarify something else for you. The prefix “anti” doesn’t only mean against or opposed to it also means an inversion. Calling all non-Christians Antichrists isn’t accurate, it doesn’t have a narrow meaning of only a thing that is against Christianity or Christ, it’s probably confusing because in English a lot of portmanteaus are done that way, like antifa and antisemite but antichrist isn’t an English language word
>>1504710>ArabicThe original books of the NT were written in greek anon
>>15047111 John 2:22 defines the Antichrist as someone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, the Messiah, and denies the Father and the Son.So yes, being an edgy atheist makes you an antichrist.
>>1504712Jesus spoke Aramaic which is close to Arabic and anyway that doesn’t really matter I was just trying to give some information and context on the topic, there’s a lot of disagreement amongst Christians on the eschatology and it’s interesting to compare with Islamic eschatology and there are Christian Arabs who use the same terms as Muslims do and understand the same things about the Antichrist >>1504713Yeah alright, so what you call the False Prophet is what the Arabs call the Dajjal, there’s also mention of many other false prophet/dajjals coming before the false messiah (the one Jesus kills).
>>1504547He's not the real pope. He's worships mudslime rapefugees and is an American encouraging the brownification of the west through mass rapefugees migration. No true Catholic respects the heretic satanic jew-backed papacy
I just don't see why I shouldn't worship Trump tho. He's doing literally everything I voted for and making immense numbers of browns, leftists, europoors, and thirdies seethe
>>1504734You should. Donny's a lot smarter and more successful than you. You should be worshipping and emulating him. Just don't fuck any children, no matter what the voices in your head say.
>>1504734>>1504738>tfw Trump makes you seethe so much that you have imaginary conversations with yourself to mock people you don't talk to
>>1504544>“has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”This counts as a threat? Leo sure is a cowardly lion. He must not have much confidence in God if he folds like a wet napkin.Leo is too scared to even talk about all the Catholics and Churches destroyed in Gaza and Lebanon.
>>1504547>save Hegseth from being fucking excommunicatedHegseth isn't catholic and if the Pope holds the keys to heaven and hell, he sure doesn't act like it.
>>1504731schizo post
>>1504740The pope has spoken against those things. Zionists should remember the Crusades were ostensibly originally to protect Christian pilgrims, nothing to do with being against any particular religion
>>1504740How the absolute fuck could you not take that as a threat?
>>1504915Because he comes from the group that's threatening the Pope.
