>Trump tells Iran to sign deal with US or ‘the whole country is going to get blown up’https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-iran-negotiations-infrastructure-bridges-b2960588.html>President Donald Trump has issued his latest threat to Iran and said that if officials fail to make a deal with the United States “the whole country is going to get blown up.”>The president also made threats Sunday morning to target civil infrastructure after it was reported that Iranian forces were refusing to allow ships to pass through the Strait of Hormuz this weekend.>“We’re offering a very fair and reasonable DEAL, and I hope they take it because, if they don’t, the United States is going to knock out every single Power Plant, and every single Bridge, in Iran. NO MORE MR. NICE GUY!” Trump wrote. The posts appeared to be an effort to bring the regime to the table for 11th-hour talks before the U.S.-Iran ceasefire expires next week.>Trump told Fox News that he was sending a team to Pakistan this week for negotiations. It was unclear whether Iran was sending its own delegation after their top negotiator said both sides remained far apart on key issues and hit out at the U.S. over its blockade of the Strait. There has been no official confirmation of talks, even as Islamabad stepped up security.>“If they don't sign this deal, the whole country is going to get blown up," Trump told Fox News Chief Foreign Correspondent Trey Yingst.>A two-week ceasefire is set to expire Tuesday if a deal is not reached. The ceasefire came on the heels of Trump’s threat to end Iranian “civilization” if a deal was not made. The U.S. president’s repeated threats to Iran’s population and civil infrastructure has been seized upon by his critics as evidence that Trump would support or even carry out war crimes.
>Last weekend, U.S.-Iran peace talks in Pakistan collapsed. Vice President JD Vance, who was leading the negotiations, emerged from a marathon session unable to pinpoint a specific matter on which the two sides had found agreement. This week, the U.S. began a blockade of Iranian ports, with the aim of shutting down Iran’s sale of oil to countries including Russia and China.>According to Trump and other U.S. officials, the main sticking point is Iran’s nuclear ambitions. Trump administration officials are pushing for the full destruction of Iran’s nuclear sites, the surrender of nuclear material, and a guarantee that Iran will not seek to enrich uranium in the future.>Vance will not lead the latest round of talks, which will include special envoys Steve Witkoff and Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner. On Sunday morning, there appeared to be confusion among officials over Vance’s role. Energy Secretary Chris Wright told CNN that Vance was leading the negotiations only for Trump to then tell MS NOW that the vice president would not be attending the latest round due to “security reasons.”>On Friday, the president declared “victory” over Iran and said that the Strait of Hormuz was open once again to global shipping traffic. Early Friday morning Trump wrote on Truth Social that the strait was “fully open.”>On Sunday, a U.K.-based maritime security agency reported that a tanker was fired upon by a vessel or vessels manned by the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC).>“The Master of a Tanker reports being approached by 2 IRGC gun boats, no VHF challenge that then fired upon the tanker. Tanker and crew are reported safe. Authorities are investigating,” the U.K. Maritime Trade Operations Centre reported.>In an X post from Iran’s embassy in Hyderabad, India, the IRGC stated: “As long as the traffic of vessels to and from Iran is threatened by the U.S, the status of the Strait of Hormuz will be as before, more restricted.”
>“Every breach by the US will meet an appropriate response,” added the IRGC naval command in the statement posted to X.
>>1507250Trump ONCE AGAIN blows up completely because Iran knows he'll always TACO, thus Tehran runs rings round Republicans.
The two week ceasefire was already broken by the Americans with their blockade of Iranian ports. That’s why Iran have responded with the total blockade of the strait.
Wild how it's the Iranians are the ones who are causing trump to have a total meltdown because they refuse to bend to his will.
>>1507266Trump is good at pounding the table and shitting the bedSo he's just alternating between the two, shorting the stock market, and hoping it all works out
Just thinking there; in 2015 Iran were allowing weapons inspections to monitor their nuclear facilities, the Hormuz Strait was open and free, and the US military had 15 bases in the Gulf. Today there’s no oversight on Iran’s nuclear weapons program, the strait is under total blockade by Iran, and the US have been forced to abandon all of their bases.The glaring question is why did Trump renege on the Iran nuclear deal that was agreed under Obama?
>>1507280His handler commanded him to. All the chaos is a cover for Israel to carry out more genocides as a blood sacrifice.
>>1507280>The glaring question is why did Trump renege on the Iran nuclear deal that was agreed under Obama?He didn't want Obama to get the credit and thought, somehow, he could make a better one by tearing up the old one.God remember when Republicans were shitting themselves over Obama freeing up like less than 2 billion in assets, now Trump has freed up about 20 billion and still has no guarantees? funny fucking shit.
>>1507279When all is said and done, he and his regime could be prospected for the sheer amount of insider trading they've done given it's always magically 20 minutes before he announces something big that billionaires of dollars are bet on something.Either way, he's in losing position.>Either agree to Iran's demands and be known as the only president who started and lost the same war.>Go through with his war crimes threat where Iran will target the oil capabilities of their neighbors, resulting in a depression which trump will be blamed for.>Keep this slow bleeding game going where the republicans will get BTFO in the midtermstrump could stage another coup to stop the final one, but that would insure the entire world, minus putin, who uses turmp as his puppet stil, turns on him.>>1507293Don't forget, republicans lied and said the 2 billion was American money, when it was money America seized from the Iranians, I wouldn't be surprised if the 20 billion trump is trying to bribe the Iranian with is taxpayer dollars
>>1507280And it was all thanks to Obama sending planeloads of cash to Iran, and changing the rules so they weren't prevented from having a nuclear program, just being prevented from enriching beyond a certain point.
>>1507297being this salty can't be good for you
>>1507297Yeah and now we're giving literally 10x as much and no enrichment gurantees at all. Oh, also gas gets a permanent price increase.Art of the smeal.
We gonna blow it up REAL GOOD!#$https://www.bing.com/videos/riverview/relatedvideo?q=blowed+up+real+good+sctv&mid=43BAB261BA2A143D05B043BAB261BA2A143D05B0&FORM=VIRE
>>1507280Compared to the other 2000s presidents, Obama has never really been a servant of Israel. He wasn't directly hostile but had some kind of pushback against their expansionist goals. Trump and Biden are comparatively tools
>>1507318I remember Obama gave Israel $40b in (maybe military) aid immediately before he left office. I’d fact check it but cba. I remember liking him a lot less in the years after he left over shit like not drinking the Flint water and this money to Israel. When he was president things seemed to be better and the people who were most against him were racist retards
>>1507318Yeah, Obama was a pussy. He let Russia invade Ukraine, he let Assad gas his own people, he made a terrible deal with Iran. Trump, and to a degree, Biden were both trying to clean up the mess Obama created.
>>1507329you're literally not american
>>1507333If you dont have anything to contribute to the discussion, there is no need to reply.
>>1507334don't cry esl shill, i'll still make fun of you all the same
>>1507335Calling people "esl shill" 12+ hours a day on 4chinz is a coping mechanism. Please leave me out of it. If you see a post that upsets you (as mine clearly has) you can just ignore it. You dont HAVE to feed me angry (you)'s
>>1507329He didn’t let Russia do anything you retard. Russia is a world power they do whatever they want, and one of the reasons Obama didn’t invade Syria was because Russia were already there. You might be delusional about the actual power of the US presidency and the US altogether. When Russia was at war in Chechnya they bombed the shit out of a school or gassed people or did something awful and anyway Clinton was President at the time and he said something about it the Russians didn’t like and, I think it was Yeltsin said, we remind the Americans that Russia is still a nuclear power. You have to understand about Russia that the reality is that for America to tell Russia what to do about literally anything is impossible, Russia is a vast country with a strong military including nukes and a blue water fleet and their response will be no and if you don’t like it too bad eat shit because if you want to force Russia it will be a bigger war than Iran
>>1507338Shut the fuck up, Zigger. Russia is a joke. And yes, when it invaded Ukraine Obama could have done when Russia invaded again - arm and fund the Ukranians. He didnt. >Russia was in Syria! Didnt stop us killing ~200 Russians in Syria lmao.
>>1507338This brings us back to current events in the Persian Gulf. Trump can’t tell Iran what to, Iran have discovered that they themselves are stronger than they thought. Trump can demand what he wants and threaten Iran with whatever diabolical act he can imagine but Iran can just say no. The Americans don’t want a war, they don’t want a war they can’t win, and they don’t even know why they’re at war with Iran, but these things are irrelevant. The facts are that Iran have taken a stand against the US, there will be no more sanctions and no more interference or there will be war
>>1507339Are you intelligent enough for this discussion?
>>1507341That is to say that even if the Americans had a goal in this war and an actual strategy to achieve that goal, which evidently would be an invasion and total conquest and occupation, and if the American people were actually willing to fight this war and accept a draft and a shift to a war industrial economy, even if all those things were right for the Americans the Iranians would still say no
>>1507342he unironically said trump is cleaning up after obama's mess. what do you think
>>1507328>immediately before he left office. I’d fact check itWhy didn’t you check before posting a comment on the internet? You’d rather feel right than be correct?
The Iranians are playing with fire. President Trump has proven himself to be patient and merciful, chance after chance they've been given to do the right thing, and they choose to keep fucking it all up. Its very sad but the American people and our President can no longer be blamed for what the Iranian regime is forcing us to do.
>>1507250This is so fucking embarrassing
>>1507353Trump and Biden are cleaning up Obamas mess. Whomever becomes POTUS next will also be cleaning up Obamas mess. We're going to dealing with that shit for a generation.
>>1507379it's always quantity over quality when you post isn't it
>>1507381>the thing you posted really upsets me but I dont really know enough for a rebuttal so Im just going to COPE MALD AND SEETHE Never change.
esl shill is projecting again
>>1507379And Obama's mess compounded with Clinton's mess makes it a fool's errand to even try.100% new government when?
>>1507387stop talking to yourself faggot
OPEN IT NOW >noOPEN NOW >noDO IT >noDO IT DO IT DO IT>noOPEN NOOOOOW>noOPEN THE BLOODY STRAIT>noDELEEEETE THIIIS>Hello?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5TWbeav7hI
>>1507390I'm not you uber queerbo.
>>1507250why would the country be blown up when friday, 20 minutes before the market opened, he posted that the war was over and they strait was completely open?will the markets be shit on monday, then taco tuesday?
>>1507394Because the Iranian government said the straights were open. Then on Saturday the IRGC said the Iranian government were "idiots" and that the straits were closed. Seems Iran is starting to suffer from what we call a "civil war". >also>/news/ being the least informed board
>>1507401They only reneged because trump violated the cease fire by keeping his blockade. Once again proving he can't be negotiated with in good faith.
>>1507337im sorry esl shill i just get so horny thinking about donald trump and his big dick
>>1507407jesus esl shill, if you want to imitate me please use apostrophes next time
>>1507359I trust my memory but not that much. https://www.reuters.com/article/world/us-israel-sign-38-billion-military-aid-package-idUSKCN11K2CI/
>>1507404This and also Israel have failed to observe the ceasefire in Lebanon
>>1507416That technically got a separate ceasefire... that they also immediately violated and was voided by ironically the US because part of it included lifting the blockade.
>>1507417It’s academic whether it was in the Islamabad ceasefire or not, it was, and who broke that ceasefire first, but yes the Israelis don’t observe ceasefires and neither do the Americans
I suppose the strategy of agreeing to a ceasefire whilst never observing a ceasefire gives you the chance of first strike during the ceasefire. It’s at the expense of the enemy never trusting your word again, ever. It’s such a bad look
>>1507419Bro the last time they tried to negotiate with the US we killed everyone in favor of it. From the moment this war started they had no reason to trust our word, and every fucking threat of "do it or we'll kill everyone" just became hollower and hollower because it became clear they were either never going to do it, or they were going to do it regardless.
>>1507422Yes and this treatment of Iran is indicative of how the US will treat enemies going forward, and allies also. It’s not just Iran who won’t trust America, nobody will trust them. Eventually nobody will deal with them at all, they will be completely isolated in all directions and their only options will be self containment or war with everyone all the time.
