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>Incoming AI sloppa:

https://www.newsweek.com/us-draft-update-major-tech-company-urges-universal-national-service-11850885

A major U.S. technology company ignited controversy after urging the federal government to adopt a system of universal national service, a move that critics say edges toward endorsing a military draft.

In the post on X Sunday, Palantir shared a number of rules, including one that read: "National service should be a universal duty. We should, as a society, seriously consider moving away from an all-volunteer force and only fight the next war if everyone shares in the risk and the cost."

The call from Palantir Technologies drew attention online after its post was reposted, prompting debate about the role of private defense‑tech firms in shaping national policy

Advocacy groups have criticized Palantir for providing software used by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

Palantir's post comes amid the Iran war as it intensifies U.S. military commitments, strained global supply chains, and raised questions about long‑term manpower needs.

The conflict—now in its seventh week—began with U.S.‑Israeli strikes on Iran on February 28, triggering a regional escalation that has included missile exchanges, naval clashes, and a U.S. blockade of Iranian ports.

>See Palantir's 'The Technological Republic' manifesto, here:
>https://twitter-thread.com/t/2045574398573453312

>Let the ______ real with the real world
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This is the same palantir that owns flock and wants to establish a Social Credit score, btw. Also the same Alex Karp described in Agenda 2030.
Let's see some other great ideas they have.
>7. If a U.S. Marine asks for a better rifle, we should build it; and the same goes for software. We should as a country be capable of continuing a debate about the appropriateness of military action abroad while remaining unflinching in our commitment to those we have asked to step into harm’s way.
based, more money for the MIC. poor little underfunded military sector
>8. Public servants need not be our priests. Any business that compensated its employees in the way that the federal government compensates public servants would struggle to survive.
based, let's start exporting labor for government workers like the private sector
>10. The psychologization of modern politics is leading us astray. Those who look to the political arena to nourish their soul and sense of self, who rely too heavily on their internal life finding expression in people they may never meet, will be left disappointed.
based, you should do something fulfilling like dying for israel, internet man
>13. No other country in the history of the world has advanced progressive values more than this one. The United States is far from perfect. But it is easy to forget how much more opportunity exists in this country for those who are not hereditary elites than in any other nation on the planet.
based, owning a massive spying network is really just done on merit. if you have a problem you can build your own spying network.
>15. The postwar neutering of Germany and Japan must be undone. The defanging of Germany was an overcorrection for which Europe is now paying a heavy price. A similar and highly theatrical commitment to Japanese pacifism will, if maintained, also threaten to shift the balance of power in Asia.
YEAH NOW THIS IS A MIGA TAKE
START MARCHIN' BOYS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy6lZ9cq-mk
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>16. We should applaud those who attempt to build where the market has failed to act. The culture almost snickers at Musk’s interest in grand narrative, as if billionaires ought to simply stay in their lane of enriching themselves . . . . Any curiosity or genuine interest in the value of what he has created is essentially dismissed, or perhaps lurks from beneath a thinly veiled scorn.

This is the same company that will sue you into the dirt if you file an FOIA to find out what their cameras are tracking or you tell the public about their highly illegal spying operation on behalf of the government btw
https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/palantir-sues-ex-employees-over-ai-startup-alleging-deception-stolen-documents/ar-AA1Pvxes
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>>1507384
I would sooner die in my home than die fighting for these bastards.
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>>1507411
you may get your wish, they do know where everyone is at all times thanks to their partnerships with Ring.
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>>1507412
Wow, you and all the other shills will get real jobs? How would ring cameras help make that fantasy a reality
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>>1507384
There's a reason why countries moved to volunteer armies. Their professionalism, morale, and general efficacy is vastly improved by the fact that everybody there actually CHOSE to get involved. Conscription just means you have to tard-wrangle a bunch of disaffected grunts who are only there because the alternative was jail.
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>>1507425
Mandatory service can be more effective than a volunteer force if the population is sufficiently compliant with the will of the government leadership. It’s the ideal outcome for maximum recruitment and the most motivated and passionate warriors.
Implementing total population compliance can be achieved through promotion of a cult-like society
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>>1507384
Breaking News: A highly contagious form of skeletal growth in the feet of MAGAtards appears immediately after a demand by Palantir: commonly known as 'Bone Spurs'.
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>>1507431
MAGAiggers think that forcing conscription through mass surveillance will generate population compliance through fear, but forget that nobody thinks they're actually intimidating.

>>1507413
>How would ring cameras help make that fantasy a reality
If you go outside to take a smoke, your camera records you.
If you drive down the road to get a sandwich, your camera records you.
If you don't own a camera, your neighbor's ring cameras are recording you.

Ring now runs the largest data gathering and surveillance program on planet Earth. Even Palantir isn't as big as Amazon Ring.
https://hrnews1.substack.com/p/ring-cameras-join-flock-and-amazon

Amazon and Palantir recently had their dry run with ICE, using its data partnership to gather the locations of millions of people, all at once.
>PFFT OWNED, OUT FUCKING SKILLED
Is what I'm sure you'll say next. Until you get a black bag thrown over your head and thrown into the migger recruitment van. The purpose was never to remove illegals, it was to ensure that a situation like Ukraine where young men could just stay at home and dodge the draft never happens again. Enjoy dying for Israel.
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>>1507425
Everyone who is younger than 60 remembers how much of a disaster the Vietnam war was. Random kids who hated the government were dragged off the street, had the shit beat out of them in bootcamped, were raped in a lot of cases by old sergeants who had become prison-gay. They then proceeded to ship them overseas where they would then throw a hand grenade into their commanding officer's knapsack and laughed as he danced around screaming before exploding.

https://www.thevintagenews.com/2016/11/09/fragging-is-the-deliberate-killing-of-a-senior-ranking-military-officer-usually-with-a-frag-grenade-over-700-cases-during-the-vietnam-war/

Overall, over 1000 cases reported, but over 10K suspected, few if any ever went to trial and the few trials that happened were acquitted because even the public did not like superior Army officers at the time. If the suspected numbers were accurate, that means American Soldiers achieved a 2 to 1 TKD against other American Soldiers, making them the second most deadly combatant to American Soldiers during the war.

Now Miggers, most of which are young Gen Xers and ancient Boomers who have acquired senility, think that was so cool that they want to do it again- But this time during the internet age where their comical screaming, dancing, and eventual exploding can be recorded and mocked by the whole world.
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>>1507445
It gets way, way, way funnier when you realize that this is literally the most unpopular war America has ever fought, it has Vietnam beat by a wide margin
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>>1507444
Unlike Ukrainians, we’re allowed to own handguns and keep them on us wherever we go. Trying to black bag guys off the streets so they can die for the Epstein class will be a colossal failure
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>>1507450
You really are a dumb fuck nigger aren’t you? My sweet summer child <3
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>>1507450
It's not like the Epstein-Class understands that. They don't understand or even know about how people live their daily lives. That and all the magatard shills don't even live in the US.

Just like the war, they will do whatever they want no matter how it impacts anybody. They already know that voting is shut down via Save Act, citizenship can be removed, and the supreme Court has become useless via the ghost docket.
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>>1507450
Okay but consider this
If you didn't do shit about them installing cameras in every neighborhood, which are literal pieces of plastic that can go down to a bb gun, you won't do shit against flesh and blood humans. Guns are a security blanket to justify stealing your rights.
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>I love national service, but I would never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever consider enlisting or becoming a public servant.
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>>1507464
Americans aren't britbongs. The only way a draft could be successfully implemented is through peer pressure (see: COVID), but nobody is in a hurry to die in the middle east.
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>>1507482
Britbongs have done more to fight their surveillance state than any burger
https://www.lbc.co.uk/article/ulez-activists-attacking-cameras-blade-runners-DWzXP4_2/

When Burgers are organizing into WELL-ORGANIZED MILITAS to even throw rocks at the tools of their enslavement, I'll change my mind. Until then it's just goyim mutt paradise where they're given teddy bears shaped like pretend versions of military weaponry. Not even the cool military weaponry that requires cutting your own flint and percussion caps.
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>>1507465
Of course not, let the goyim deal with the real world
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Have you seen the latest zoomer and millennial? These boys need a war to toughen em up and make em less faggy.
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>>1507450
ICE have literally been black bagging people, including US citizens, off the street. They also killed a man because he was armed. No charges
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>>1507562
What does ICE have to do with the draft?
There is no federal law enforcement agency dedicated to dragging Americans out of their homes and forcing them to fight for Israel.
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>>1507562
>a man
Homosexuals are not people.
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>>1507444
>The purpose was never to remove illegals, it was to ensure that a situation like Ukraine where young men could just stay at home and dodge the draft never happens again.
ICE is a department unrelated to the pentagon. This is like claiming the DMV or the CDC is going to draft you for the war. Don't be retarded.
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>>1507465
I think most Americans would be willing to actually defend their homes if a land invasion ever actually did happen, but you can go die for Israel instead of me. Especially if you voted for Trump
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>>1507465
I'm fine with working for the government. I would never die for a war that Israel started though.
If you're the type of person who thinks bombing schoolchildren is integral to defending America, and that it's worthwhile to risk American lives to push that goal, you're a traitor. Legitimately, unironically.
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>>1507384
Notice how they say everyone should share the risk or the cost, but nothing about everyone sharing the profit. That one bill proposed in the 1910s that said all wars must be voted on by the public and voting yes means volunteering for the military should have passed.
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>>1507564
ICE doesn’t have to have anything to do with the draft. The point is that there’s a federal government agency that kidnaps US citizens and murdered at least one US citizen because he was armed.
They’ve also been targeting people for criticising the Zionist regime, which ties into any potential draft for this current war. It’s a logical leap to describe a draft dodger as an antisemite
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>>1507570
Nah, let the people I'm force to pay do it, like the bank, the city and the insurance company,
I don't own shit worth dying over because I don't actually own shit even if I own it.
I'm simply liable for it.
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>>1507582
>murdered at least one US citizen because he was armed.
Fags aren't people though so your complaint isn't valid.
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>>1507384
draft the cunts in blue states first and repossess their property.
Start with the domestic terrorists
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>>1507568
>>1507450
>>1507582
>ICE is a department unrelated to the pentagon.
Oh okay, I didn't know that Palantir was restricting their all-encompassing government surveillance program to specifically ICE and no other government agency could get their hands on it like they could have have to restrict the rights of millions of people. My bad.

Do you have a source for this claim you seem to be making that Flock camera and Palantir tracking data is exclusive to ICE and isn't available for literally any other state or federal agency? Because that seems to be the claim you're making, that nobody should worry about all-encompassing government spying possibly leading to an absolute conscription state because only ICE can use the data.
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>>1507596
The government could already use PRISM to spy on whoever they wanted since 9/11 anon. That has no bearing on the US Gov's actual, physical ability to enforce a draft though.
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>>1507587
Anyone who voted for Trump deserves to be sent to the front lines
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>>1507596
ICE tactics can be used by any government agency, this is plainly obvious and it shouldn’t have to be explained to you that mentioning ICE methods in the context of what the federal government may do in the event of a military draft is as an example only, it isn’t being said that ICE will do this and that rather it is being said that federal government agencies black bagging US citizens is now normalized
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>>1507602
Trannies have killed more people this year than ICE.
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esl shill brought up his fetish unwarranted again
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>>1507602
You know America has a loooong history of drafting soldiers? Right? You aware of this very basic historical fact?
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>>1507643
are you trying to convince us that you're american? hint: americans don't know their own history
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>>1507642
some strains of retarded maga christianity consider each act of onanism a mass murder
trannys might be forcing the shill to murder again as we speak
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>>1507645
I could be Siamese. Doesn't change the facts.
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>>1507647
and it doesn't change recent history either. america is the most preeminent volunteer army in the world and it doesn't even come close
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>>1507648
Congratulations on defeating an argument no one made.
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>>1507649
i'm not arguing with you, although my statement did make yours irrelevant
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>>1507650
>I am, in fact, attempting to rebut you
No opponent needed, you beat yourself.

Anon was spiraling about needing a mass surveilance state enforcing ICE-style tactics to enforce the draft. Which is retarded, because we never needed that in the past. Simple as.
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>>1507651
you can stop projecting anon, i brought up recent history, it's more relevant than the archaic history you referenced. as for right now, if the current administration needs to resort to russia style draft kidnappings, it's because they're the most incompetent administration america has ever had, bar none
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>>1507652
The US ended the draft in 1973. That's quite recent. If they brought it back, it would be enforced the same way it was back then, because most young men would do their duty to their country regardless of who is in power.

Fyi, current admin is enjoying record recruiting. It was the Biden admin that seriously struggled with recruitment.
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>>1507562
>ICE have literally been black bagging people, including US citizens, off the street.
Mostly illegals and the occasional anti-gun democrat. That anon's point still stands.
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>>1507653
>The US ended the draft in 1973. That's quite recent. If they brought it back, it would be enforced the same way it was back then, because most young men would do their duty to their country regardless of who is in power.
Please refer to >>1507445
Only a retard would want that back, but we are ran by some pretty fucking stupid retards.
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>>1507653
50 years ago isn't recent, and vietnam was a more acceptable war to the american people than the current debacle is. this is why i don't argue with you, you're constantly full of shit and it's way more fun to point and laugh at your nonsense
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>>1507654
Please refer to >>1507596
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>>1507655
Less than 2% of men drafted for the Vietnam war dodged the draft. Most people (this may amaze you) are not collosal pieces of shit.
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>>1507658
>collosal
you might need a colloquium in the english language
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>>1507657
There is nothing to refer to. You don't need a spooky scary police state to enforce conscription. Most young men are not pieces of shit and will voluntarily go. It's literally the same as filing taxes every year.
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>>1507659
>Whoa I almost had to acknowledge your superior argument, but you made a typo so ha!
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>>1507660
you sure are intent on gaslighting americans into fighting wars they're not interested in fighting. are you going to break our arms dragging us out of senatorial hearings too?
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>>1507662
>sure are intent on gaslighting americans into fighting wars they're not interested in fighting
We have elections to select our leadership who then makes those decisions. This is how democracy works.
>are you going to break our arms dragging us out of senatorial hearings too?
Lmao I almost forgot about that guy. Top kek.
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>>1507661
your "superior argument" is that vietnam was totally not america's rock bottom. nobody is even taking that argument seriously anon, you're literally not even american
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>>1507657
Okay. Referred to it. Your point?
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>>1507664
>we
LOL
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>>1507665
>Nooo! The police were grabbing people off the street during Vietnam!
>Actually draft dodging was exceedingly rare
I understand that you literally cannot conceive of someone not being a self centered peice of shit, but based on Vietnam era data shows that 98% of men did their duty when their nation called.
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>>1507668
adorable strawman anon, now i know you're definitely losing the argument i'm not even having with you. how sad
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>>1507667
You got me. I'm Bolivian.

Now, do you have a rebuttal or are you flummoxed?
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>>1507670
nobody is arguing with you, you have yet to be taken seriously in this thread. sorry but, lrn2ethos
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>>1507669
>Flummoxed, bamboozled even
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>>1507672
stephen a smith has a more varied vocabulary than you. why are you having such difficulty being treated as an intellectual equal?
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>>1507657
....... Okay. Referred to it. YOUR POINT?

Or just say you don't have one. ICE grabbed up illegals and the rare anti-gun democrat. Meaning people who can't defend themselves from a tyrannical government.

Bet you wish you gave a fuck about 2A now.
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>>1507674
bet you wish you had a real job
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>>1507675
I bet you wish you had an original comment worth posting.
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>>1507676
no, that's just you projecting again. sorry esl shill
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>>1507675
Like I said. Anon's point still stands.
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>>1507677
You're right, I do wish you weren't a useless oneline poster.
I'll go back to fully ignoring you like everyone else.
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>>1507680
i'm sure next time you reply to me you'll be ignoring me too. toodles
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>>1507658
Trump dodged the draft BTW
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>>1507601
anyone who didn't vote for trump deserves to be sent to iran and denaturalized
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>>1507682
He lives in constant agony with those bone spurs. How dare you



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