Children aged 17 or younger will face a lifelong ban on buying cigarettes, as the Tobacco and Vapes Bill clears Parliament.

Both the Commons and Lords have settled on a final draft of the "landmark" legislation, external that aims to stop anyone born after 1 January 2009 from taking up smoking by making it illegal for shops to sell them tobacco, to create a smoke-free generation.

When it gets royal assent, ministers will also have new powers to regulate tobacco, vaping and nicotine products, including their flavours and packaging.

It is part of a series of measures aimed at tackling the health effects of smoking, one of the UK's leading causes of preventable death, disability and ill health.

Vaping will be banned in cars carrying children, in playgrounds and outside schools and at hospitals, expanding smoke-free laws.

Vaping would still be allowed outside hospitals in a bid to support those trying to quit.

Outdoor hospitality venues like pub gardens and wider open spaces such as beaches and private outdoor spaces are not included in the plans.

People will also be able to continue smoking and vaping in their homes.

Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, Wes Streeting, called it an historic moment for the nation's health, adding: "Prevention is better than cure – this reform will save lives, ease pressure on the NHS, and build a healthier Britain."

Health minister Baroness Merron told the Lords on Monday: "It is, in fact, the biggest public health intervention in a generation and I can assure all noble Lords it will save lives."

Lord Naseby, a Conservative former MP, said the Tobacco and Vapes Bill "does upset a great many people in that industry", including retailers.

"What we really need is a proper understanding of how we educate people not to take up smoking," he said.

Responding to Lord Naseby, Lady Merron said: "I can overall assure Lord Naseby, as I've done on a number of occasions, about how closely we have worked with retailers, and we will continue to do so."

Sarah Sleet from Asthma + Lung UK said the legislation promised to transform the nation's health.

"Now that this groundbreaking bill is finally over the line, we have a chance to go further to protect public health and hold the tobacco industry to account."

She urged the Government needs to make sure existing smokers aren't left behind by providing widespread smoking cessation support.

"Right now we have a postcode lottery, which is why the tobacco industry should pay through a levy to reduce the harm they cause by funding these crucial services across the UK," she said.

Hey, Numnuts, try reading your own fucking article:
>Vaping will be banned in cars carrying children, in playgrounds and outside schools and at hospitals, expanding smoke-free laws.

>Vaping would still be allowed outside hospitals in a bid to support those trying to quit.

>Outdoor hospitality venues like pub gardens and wider open spaces such as beaches and private outdoor spaces are not included in the plans.

>People will also be able to continue smoking and vaping in their homes.

Lay off the nicotine and you will see how it improves your comprehension and reading skills, you chemical stinking junkie.

Psst, hey, kid, wanna buy a fag?. Just £2 .

Reach into my pocket real deep and you'll find the fag.

>>1507769
What’s the problem?

>>1507759
The thing with vaping is it can be done totally DIY. You can mix your own juice, build your own atomiser, even build your own device. It’s virtually impossible to totally ban it and even an increase on taxes will only open the black market and encourage knowledgeable vaporists to purchase their own flavourings from baking suppliers and nicotine preparations from chemists.

>>1507817
Smart Liberals already understand that smoking is bad for you, and are smart enough to safely build these items if they want them

Retarded conservatives are too dumb to do this, and when they try they inevitably hurt and/or cripple themselves

This seems like an absolute win/win

>>1507769
No.

>>1507759
Banning Europeans from smoking? Wow, that's a BOLD fucking strategy. UK is truly cucked if they don't revolt. Not even Germany could get away with this.

>>1507769
NTA, can you explain this part to me?
>Children aged 17 or younger will face a lifelong ban on buying cigarettes, as the Tobacco and Vapes Bill clears Parliament.
Because it looks like anyone born after 2009 is permanently banned from buying tobacco. Can you explain what I'm not getting right about this?

>>1507759
Unban smoking and ban smoker access to taxpayer coverage for all health-related issues associated with smoking. Happy now?

>>1507848
The taxes from sales of cigarettes should be used to develop a cure for smoking related diseases

They do not want people having access to nicotine. Nicotine kills many different viruses.
Look it up.

>>1507759
This is the end-goal for all age verification btw. YOu'll need to age verify to even use a toilet or buy a condom and there will be strict age limits to doing so.

And Christcucks are all in on it, despite the fact iti s literal end-times Mark-of-the-beast shit that they swore "WE WOULD NEVER LET THAT HAPPEN TO US". Now they're going to be begging Mr Gubbamint for a smoke and we're going to be begging Mr. Gobbermint to use an ipad

>>1507841
>Because it looks like anyone born after 2009 is permanently banned from buying tobacco. Can you explain what I'm not getting right about this?
No you're right, because the UK Parliament is a bunch of ancient losers. You have to remember the average age of the average UK politician is 70-80. Even their kids and grandkids aren't in this age bracket anymore.

The Soviet Union really started to hurt and fall when all of its politicians became super elderly and they turned society against itself in a big row to "Stick it to the kids". They banned dancing, singing, music, smoking, drinking, driving without telling your commissar where you were going, it was an absolute war on the generation of the 80s. Twenty years later, they all died and the wall fell.
Looks like it's our turn, now! Part and parcel of being ruled by spiteful geriatrics

>>1507838
This may actually be the one thing that finally gets pushed back on. Every chav in the UK smokes. You have to, it's a more depressing hellscape than living in a former-yugoslavia nation state.

All the surveillance and muh mean tweets laws are shit normalfags can ignore but not smoking and drinking, the surveillance and mean tweet laws create more smokers and drinkers to get away from the government telling them how to think.

>>1507759
Speaking as someone who has never smoked, why should I care?
More than just a ban on indoor smoking? Good.

>>1507887
>Speaking as someone who has never smoked, why should I care?
Because they could do this to fucking anything, the problem is goycattle like you are incapable of seeing more than one month ahead of your current position. You see the goycattle going into the slaughterhouse, you see a spike go through its neck, you see it fall down, and your response is "why should I care?" as the belt moves his body off, and you step closer to the spike.

>>1507890
Why should we listen to insane cattle?
You're a programmed shill, if anything you being against it makes me think Britain is right for banning smoking

>>1507887
You see, burgermutt; at one time before Republicans turned all school curriculums into "Sucking The Small Circumcised Israeli Penis", there used to be classes called "Social Studies" and "History".

In these old school classes they would teach students about different things in history that would lead to different, catastrophic consequences. One of which was something called "Prohibition", maybe you've heard about that as the rabbi grips your scalp. In Prohibition, the US Government had the genius idea of banning an activity that literally every American did, Drinking. This resulted in the largest crime wave in American history ever reported, literally tens of thousands of deaths, Police officers having fatality rates of some wars, and the drinking problem not actually going away but going underground. It also funded multiple mafia organizations who are still around to this day, and as you may have also noticed: Drinking came back making the entire thing pointless.

Now, I get you have a PH.D on shlurping the jewish smegma off of your upper lip, but you should take the time to read a bit about it and why Prohibition. Doesn't. Work. And why it created all of Americas worst political enemies much like the Drug War does today.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prohibition_in_the_United_States

>>1507890
>Guys banning an addictive substance that destroys the lungs of both you and everyone around you is BASICALLY THE LAST STEP BEFORE WE'RE ALL LED INTO A SLAUGHTERHOUSE, WAKE UP SHEEPLE
Bro no one likes cigarette smoke and it is objectively bad for your health. Honestly it was only the sheer stranglehold of the smoking industry that kept them from being banned.

>>1507892
>Why should we listen to insane cattle?
Seriously, the one behind me keeps bleating that the Spike is going to kill us, I think he's a programmed shill. Frankly, I love the spike! The other cows were unworthy of the spike! But us Goycattle, we're the ones the Spike chose. Ooh, look, it's getting closer!

>>1507894
>Bro no one likes cigarette smoke
It's not about Cigarette smoke you dullard. It's the fact that it's a casual hobby that they could escalate into banning ANYTHING. It's not the act of banning smoking but the precedent, banning this shit hasn't. worked.
Btw every single founding father smoked. If you went back in time and told them you were going to ban it, they would shoot you.
https://historycollection.com/the-unique-hygiene-habits-of-our-founding-fathers/

>>1507894
>I DON'T LIKE CIGARETTE SMOKE SO YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE IT EITHER
I don't like you, does that mean I have the legal right to kill you?

>>1507894
Regular alcohol consumption has a higher risk of giving you cancer than smoking cigarettes does.

>>1507892
>Heh you wouldn't like getting hit in the nuts, right? I'm going to stab my nutsack! Libs owned!!!

>>1507899
Seriously, which based conservative among us will be the first to bash his own nuts with a hammer? I think the libs would hate it, and I support anything the libs hate. Fucking programmed shills, trying to tell us bashing our nuts is bad.

>>1507897
whats illegal about banning cigarettes?
are you being paid to complain about this stupid shit?

>>1507901
this is true
please esl shill, don't bash your non-gendered crotch with a hammer
its bad and you'll need to visit the hospital
i have no idea how close the nearest hospital is to your village

>>1507902
>whats illegal about banning cigarettes?
It isn't legal under the US Constitution or Bill of Rights to ban the sale of any legal object. You can levy the fuck out of it's taxes, but if there isnt' a specific law or amendment targeting this object, you can't ban it.
https://usconstitution.net/constitution-and-property-rights/
>James Madison, the principal author of the Constitution, believed that property encompassed not just physical assets but also one's ideas and personal liberty. He wrote that government is instituted to protect property of every sort.
This is why despite all the fearmongering, the best in the US could ever do against cigarettes is make them expensive. Never ban them.
Prohibition was only granted because of the Eigthteenth Amendment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
This took a fierce battle that was being fought since the end of the Civil War when most of the soldiers would come home and drink themselves to death, remembering what they did to their fellow countrymen. So ~60 years of lobbying resulted in the dumbest ban in American history.

How does this relate to UK Law? I don't know, frankly, I don't know if Parliament can just wave a magic wand and ban something, even old-style kings couldn't do that, and were harshly rebuked if they tried:
https://www.historicmysteries.com/history/medieval-football/28639/

UK just replaced its king with parliament kvetching over MUH CHILLUNS

>>1507906
>its illegal because other countries laws
lmao, never stop posting you retarded faggot

>>1507890
>the wrong opinions of subhuman retards go straight into the trash: wrong opinions that will never be accepted by those who will never allow wrong opinions - certainly those of inferior retards such as >>1507890 - to exist in their superior minds
Again, why should I care? Least of all about whatever you say? When I want your opinion, I'll give it to you.

>>1507894
>Bro no one likes porn and it is objectively bad for your health.
>Bro no one likes alcohol and it is objectively bad for your health.
>Bro no one likes hate speech and it is objectively bad for your health.
>Bro no one likes video games and it is objectively bad for your health.
>Bro no one likes the internet and it is objectively bad for your health.

>>1508075
Porn only gives you hairy palms
Do you want to be like Joseph McCarthy, Pete Kegsbreath & Krash Patel? But hey, it's your liver's funeral
I'm glad there are countries which make wrong opinions thoughtcrime. Just ask Alex Jones. But hey, it's your bank balance's funeral
id Software not making a new Wolfenstein game based on id Tech 8 is the only crime they've committed to date, but at least they gave rightards seethe-based cancer with just the ads for Wolfenstein II: The New Colossus
I've yet to see any form of cancer in me due to 1) Looking at Rule 34. 2) Ordering stuff from Amazon. 3) Proving the opinions of retards wrong on /news/
Moral: Just ask the widow of Roy Castle. He alone is the reason why smoking was made illegal the way it was in UK before this new legislation. And Roy never smoked in his life, yet he died of terminal lung cancer.
Bro, you don't like being forced to be healthy but so what if your opinions being proved wrong is objectively bad for your mental health?

>>1507853
Where should I look? I’m intrigued by this idea because nicotine itself is only harmful in extremely high concentrations, like many things which are otherwise harmless and can be beneficial

>>1507759
This makes sense because the National Health Service is funded by the government. Why should the public pay for a smoker's irresponsible lifestyle choices?

Ban porn
Ban smoking
Ban alcohol consumption
Prohibition works and the narrative that it doesn't is astroturfed by powerful lobbies

>>1508075
Yeah the thing is, none of those things also have a fucking AOE effect of giving people second hand smoke damage to their lungs over time lmao.

>>1508115
Don't cry when they're banned too.

>>1507898
[citation needed]
Is this also factoring morbidities like all the heart and lung issues associated with smoking?

>>1507759
Boo hoo faggot. You retarded cattle are so dumb with your vaping dildos that big daddy had to step in and pull it out of your obese collective mouth. Vaping has no positives. You're a retard.

>>1507821
Libtards are so dumb they can't even tell you what a woman is.

>>1508122
You realize it's called the Slippery Slope FALLACY, right?

>>1508139
>Conservatives don't understand what a woman is
>projects their confusion on Democrats
predictable

>>1508148
Found the dumb libtard who can't define what a woman is lol

>>1508168
women are women
men are men
Conservatives are programmed to believe its more complicated than that

>>1508170
What a dumb response.

>>1508115
Man, what a fucking pussy.

>>1508179
Yea what a pussy for not wanting to get lung cancer with you for your own stupid, fat decisions. Everyone should just not give a fuck about their body. Fat, cancer positivity bro. You're a real one.

>>1508143
So where's the fallacy? Think of how much you've lost over the last 20 years. Are you more or less free?

>>1508112
Prohibition can work when it’s implemented properly. There are historical examples

>>1508185
NTA, such as?

>>1508174
sorry genders confusing for you, faggot
maybe stop gooning to trans women

>>1508188
Trans women? You mean men? Haha faggot is so brainwashed he's using State sponsored doublespeak. Keep resisting bro, you got this.

>>1508183
Let's see:
>The cancer stick that also gives everyone around you cancer at a slower rate
...Yeah that's about it actually. You gonna complain they banned heroin or something?

>>1508190
>women are women?
>ha, women are men!
You got me, women aren't women

>>1508194
Why are you being so transphobic? Close-minded for a libtard, eh?

>>1508198
But if women aren't women and libtards are close minded, doesn't that mean libtards aren't closed minded and women are women?

>>1508202
Close, but no it actually means you'll never be a real woman.

>>1508193
>not answering my question
I accept your concession.

>>1508132
Tobacco use exposes someone to a larger amount of carcinogens per dose, but alcohol has more regular use and is responsible for more common cancers than tabacco.
e.g A habitual smoker is at risk for mouth, throat and lung cancer. But a habitual drinker is at risk of developing mouth, throat, stomach, pancreatic, liver, and colorectal cancer.
The risk chance for tobacco goes up and down depending on how its imbibed. Cigar smokers are at less risk than cigarette smokers for lung cancer because they don't inhale, but tobacco will still fuck up your mouth and jaw regardless of how its taken.

>>1508207
yep, because men aren't women, women are women.
You're getting closer, I'm sure you'll eventually figure it out

>>1508208
I literally did you just didn't like it.

>>1508211
It's adorable how confidently incorrect you are.

>>1508214
Imagine being proud enough to think that you can become something other than yourself by believing hard enough.
Just imagine.

>>1508115
>>1507894
>>1508143
>>1508193
>>1508208
We live in a country that literally repealed all the CAFE and emissions standards for giant trucks so they can fill entire cities with carcinogens, shut the fuck up you braindead bootlicking moron. Billy and Paco having a smoke isn't going to kill you.

You literally only care because you have corporation dick up your ass and banning semi-trucks would impact the jillionaire class while Billy and Paco can't fight back.
>WHERE'S THE FALLACY????
You're literally trying to ban a practically harmless activity before getting in your car and huffing diesel fumes on the way to your job at the gay bar.

>>1508216
imagine bringing up your fetish for no reason in every thread, every day

>>1508115
>Yeah the thing is, none of those things also have a fucking AOE effect of giving people second hand smoke damage to their lungs over time lmao.
driving a car literally does this though, as does industrial processing and power generation through fossil fuels
oh look not even the most lefty Labor in the UK is trying to regulate that. They're fine with that because it makes them money.

Almost like this is a scare for sub-80 IQ retards (you) to fall for. I'd love to ban the internet for every under 30, though. Then I wouldn't have to see you for another 20 years.

>>1508218
"Hey man we already have shitty air in our shitty blue cities from pollution, stfu and just breathe in this completely avoidable carcinogen on top of that just because I'm a fat shitbag with no ambition"

Yea you can hurry up and get cancer already, please.

>>1508182
You won't get lung cancer you fucking pussy bitch.

>>1508218
>>1508225
A car has a purpose that outweighs the emissions you fucking retards.

>>1508214
>>men aren't women, women are women.
>It's adorable how confidently incorrect you are.
You're so confused you think men are women, and women aren't women
Israel really fucked you up

>>1508239
Correct. I'm not a retard who vapes.

>>1508212
You literally didn't, and I'll ask you one more time. Are you more or less free than you were 20 years ago? It's a binary choice.

>>1507759
Shit like this doesn't work. You'll just empower the criminals. see: Australia having arson attacks every day over cigarette turf wars. The gangs controlling those make 3 billion a year.

>>1508242
Interesting that you keep leaving off the last part of that original comment of yours. Disingenuous even. Hmmmm, let's see if the dumb libtard can figure it out.

>>1508246
You're getting closer, I'm sure you'll eventually figure it out

>>1508244
More.

>>1508244
>It's a binary choice.
what if my freedom levels have remained consistent

>>1508249
Interesting.

>>1508248
I knew you couldn't do it. Fail. Just like every libtard before you and all those coming down the conveyor belt now.

>>1508260
I'm just going to have to live knowing that men are men and women are women
if only you learned to speak english fluently, maybe you could have warned me
its your fault America is confused about gender, esl shill. if only you learned english...

>if only you learned to speak english fluently
>its your fault America is confused about gender, esl shill
>its
and it's now proven that 1508261 the projecting foreign shill wil never be a _man_ .
Those who have English as a first language know about apostrophes, and the correct use of such.
It's your fault you don't know English, shill.

>I'm just going to have to live knowing that men are men and women are women
this triggers the esl shill super hard, lmao

>>1508261
it's*

Please go on about the esl topic, though. It's fascinating to me.

>>1508266
esls like you tend to go real hard on grammatical accuracy to cover up your unfamiliarity with the language.
its why you're raging so hard over someone telling you men are men and women are women

Grammatical accuracy is what makes the distinction between those who have English as a first language, and those who are ESL, such as the shill reduced to projecting so hard when her inferiority is proven.

>>1508267
Oh man, I was really looking forward to an enlightened English lesson. You seem really smart. Darn it.

>>1507841
Nicotine is a literal poison, and kills all it's users eventually.

>>1508271
One day you'll know men are men and women are women and be as smart as an Indian version of an American

One day, the shill will remember that there are men who are women in India, and all her opinions will be proved wrong.

>>1508276
and there will never be a day where you have a real job or make your parents proud

>>1508241
You're not required to drive a gas car just like you're not required to smoke cigs, electric vehicles are commonplace.
You seem to have an intense double standard, want to tell us about it?

>>1508227
Because you worship money. This isn't about protecting MUH CHILLUNS or MUH HEALTH or whatever strawman you came up with, you're just pretending to care while ignoring the much more obvious threat to your health.
I would tell you to get fucked but I'm sure the bikers at the bar you work at do that to you every day.

>>1508276
If you repeat it enough times maybe it will come true.

>>1508281
Smokers and non-smokers get lung cancer at the same rate, according to you. Can't really argue with that flavor of Downs.

>>1508283
I don't think we'll ever live in your delusional world where men are women and women are men
Maybe your brain will finish breaking and you can live in that fantasy then

>>1508275
It’s not toxic in small amounts and it doesn’t kill you. All the tar and shit in the cigarettes is what can make you ill if you smoke too much, vaping is much safer because it doesn’t have tar, but as for cigarettes if you smoked only 6 or 7 a day it probably would not have any adverse effects on your health

>>1508241
Elon Musk would like a word with you about that. It's the reason why he's rich.
And why has Jeff Bezos invested in an electric vehicle company whose name is an anagram of Musk's? Why does Smart - which previously made internal combustion engined cars - now only makes electric ones?

>>1508286
In the English language, generally speaking, a period is used at the end of each sentence before starting the next sentence. Food for thought.

>>1508289
I wonder how long we can keep your tantrum going

>>1508290
You bring up a good point, actually. This has been educational for you and good for your development, but I do need to focus on other things that are more important. Have a good day you heckin retard!

>how long we can keep your tantrum going
As long as the shill that's had her educational inferiority proven continues to reply.

>>1508292
>point out that they're tantruming
>they immediately flee
peak comedy

>>1508287
So how do chewing tobacco users get mouth cancer?

>>1508287
>vaping is much safer because it doesn’t have tar
Yeah we're pretty rapidly finding out that isn't true; it's dangerous for different reasons.

>>1508300
It’s safe if not done incorrectly. If the ingredients in the e-liquid are food additives it’s basically safe. It’s only basically unsafe when people don’t know what they’re doing or can’t access regulated devices and e-liquids. There’s studies done and the science says it’s safe, only retards and the nicotine pharmaceuticals therapy complex disagrees

>>1508299
sucking dicks

>>1508302
You just proved you have no argument.

>>1508301
We've already found connections to lung cancer and damage. There are additives added to those e-liquids that aren't healthy, along with chemicals from the actual delivery device that can genuinely poison you.

>>1508316
I don’t know or care where you are but I’m in the EU and we have regulations on what’s allowed in e-liquids. It’s propylene glycol and/or vegetable glycerin as a base, nicotine, and flavouring which must be food grade (there’s a couple of exceptions to this last one because some things are ok to eat but not good to breathe in as steam).
All of the stuff I’ve seen about lung damage and other things caused by vaping is always from either illegal weed vapes (with unregulated ingredients), and retards blowing shit up because they aren’t safe with batteries (the same kind of retards who burn their house down with a cigarette or end up in hospital with alcohol poisoning from pounding straight spirits)

>>1508326
wow, I didn't know India was part of the EU

wow, I didn't know that 1508327 the shill projected so much from India