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Federal funding for scientific research was already in turmoil.
https://www.theverge.com/science/918769/trump-fires-the-entire-national-science-board

Multiple sources are reporting that the Trump administration has dismissed the entire National Science Board (NSB). The NSB advises the president and Congress on the National Science Foundation (NSF), which has already been funding research at historically low levels and has seen significant delays in doling out that funding. The NSF has been fundamental in helping develop technology used in MRIs, cellphones, and it even helped get Duolingo get off the ground.

In a statement, Zoe Lofgren, the ranking Democrat on the House Science, Space, and Technology Committee, said:
>“This is the latest stupid move made by a president who continues to harm science and American innovation. The NSB is apolitical. It advises the president on the future of NSF. It unfortunately is no surprise a president who has attacked NSF from day one would seek to destroy the board that helps guide the Foundation. Will the president fill the NSB with MAGA loyalists who won’t stand up to him as he hands over our leadership in science to our adversaries? A real bozo the clown move.”
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>>1509366
I remember this board from Bill Nye
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I just learned about Lysenkoism, now we're seeing it being used against America by trump.
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>>1509421
If you want to study ideological capture, try looking at Climate Science. How outsiders like Bjorn Lomborg are treated by the establishment
It also has parallels to how Dr. Jay Bhattacharya of Stanford University, Dr. Sunetra Gupta of Oxford University were treated after publishing the Great Barrington Declaration, condemning Lockdown policies as a way to deal with Covid-19
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>>1509423
Except this is more like Bjorn Lomborg taking control and firing everyone else to the detriment of science.
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>>1509423
The lockdown was actually effective in slowing down the spread of the virus.
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>>1509423
>Great Barrington Declaration
Which was a retarded proposal that amounted to "put everyone especially vulnerable in super lockdown and hope nothing happens after the virus spreads to the entire population". It completely ignored COVID long term side effects like Long COVID and was completely unethical by all standards because it was effectively rolling dice with the entire population. Gupta and Bhattacharya also were either completely wrong or outright lied about COVID's lethality rate to justify it, saying it was "1 in 10,000" when even the data at the time said that was fucking wrong.
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What has Science done for anybody lately?
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>>1509433
This, the stats don’t lie. Countries with stricter lockdowns that were observed by the populations had fewer deaths per capita than those that didn’t enforce or observe lockdowns
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>>1509436
Ask ChatGPT
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>>1509366
If Trump isn't a Russian asset then that's just further evidence to him being a terrible businessman. He could be getting paid top dollar for destroying the United States, but instead he's doing it for free.
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>>1509503
>>1509503
>It said tried to give me cancer via a covid vaccine and a got Joe Biden elected.
>We must burn it all down
ChatGPT said nothing. Science has been relatively stagnant over the past decade.
But it admitted that it's also supporting fags becoming even gayer and more annoying than they are already.
I'm not certain what that means, and ChatGPT complains about homophobia when I ask. The spits out some shit about being scared of homosexuals because it's gay fathers are coming home on a Sunday night with a tub of lube and he knows he'll be shitting blood tomorrow.
I think it broken.
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>>1509435
It also disregarded the fact that even people in super lockdown need caregivers.

Shit was just a less honest version of that Texas politician saying the elderly should be prepared to die for the economy.
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>>1509366
>Will the president fill the NSB with MAGA loyalists who won’t stand up to him
He's the chief executive. If a part of the executive is not working with him to apply his agenda, he has every right to dismiss them.

They are unelected, he is elected. Its really that simple.
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>>1509547
>Science has been relatively stagnant over the past decade.
Video game graphics =/= science
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>>1509556
You seem to be conflating power and responsibility. People aren't accusing Trump of exceeding his power, but of acting irresponsibly. Trump being elected has literally fuck all to do with it.

Nuking a hurricane is within Trump's power too, but it'd still be dumb as fuck and bad for the country if he did the next time one comes ashore.
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>>1509564
Wait, I forgot right wingers think power is incapable of acting irresponsibly because the powerful are given power by divine providence and not their shitty votes, so whatever they want is God's will.

We really need to purge serfbrain from the population.
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>>1509564
>People aren't accusing Trump of exceeding his power, but of acting irresponsibly
If you're elected President and you tell the executive to do the things you want to do, and they push back, you have every right to dismiss them.

The National Science board controls a $9B research budget. If he is telling them to spend on AI and tech competition, and they are instead wanting to spend it on environmental research, of course he's going to fire them.

Its not that complicated.
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>>1509570
>you have every right to dismiss them.
Please learn to read.
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>>1509570
>Trump's king. He has every right to fuck my wife on our wedding night.
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>>1509570
>If you're elected President and you tell the executive to do the things you want to do, and they push back, you have every right to dismiss them.
That doesn't address the line you quoted at all.
>If he is telling them to spend on AI and tech competition, and they are instead wanting to spend it on environmental research, of course he's going to fire them.
That's retard logic. If you go to your scientists, tell them to do something and they say "that's a really bad idea because this," you're supposed to fucking listen to them. Because they're the experts, not you, that's why they're here.
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>>1509643
>you're supposed to fucking listen to them
America isn't a technocracy retard
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>>1509633
We need to keep the random cabinet members who would oppose the current federal agenda every step of the way!

Imagine what could happen if the government could actually do things, people might be held responsible for those things you know!
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>>1509652
That doesn't matter.
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>>1509633
think of one person that called him a king and meant it sincerely. fell for an AI generated video on the ole facebook perhaps?
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>>1509652
The president would be smart to listen to advisors who are more knowledgeable in certain areas than he is.
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>>1509366
we will get dr oz and tim pool instead
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>>1509531
He's always been incompetent, anyone who blows smoke up his ass gets an instant "yes" from him no matter how retarded the idea is. He's not a Russian, Israeli, Chinese, or even an American asset. He is a Trump asset. He will do whatever appears benefits Trump at any given moment regardless of the long-term consequences.

I'm sure after his administration the IRS will spend decades going over how much of this was covered by money in envelopes that wasn't reported to the tax authority.
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>>1509704
>*appears to benefit
It's early, okay?

>>1509699
It's more of a reason we need to keep old people the fuck out of politics.
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>>1509556
>>1509570
Just because you CAN set your house on fire, and few would argue with your legal ability to do so, doesn't mean you should.

Removing the forestry service is a retarded idea just because "it saves money". Removing the science advisory team is a retarded idea because "they told me no". The reasons why these are retarded ideas haven't gone away just because you fired the people who told you they were bad ideas. A smart person, like someone with an IQ above 90, would realize that right away: If you have a pressing issue, firing the messenger hasn't made the issue stop.

>If he is telling them to spend on AI and tech competition
kek he isn't even doing that, he probably told them to build a gold statue to himself.
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>>1509570
>The plumber told me I had a leak, so I fired him. Now, the leak went away
>It's not that complicated
wow
so this is the IQ of miggers who plague this site..
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>>1509652
It may actually be better and have nice things if it were instead of a bribeocracy.
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>>1509660
>We need to keep the random cabinet members who would oppose the current federal agenda every step of the way!
1. These weren't cabinet members
2. The current federal agenda is fucking Lysenkoism, so yes, we need to keep anyone that hasn't quit yet that opposes this nonsense.
3. Or better yet, change the fucking federal agenda.

You're bitching that the slide to hell isn't well-greased.
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>>1509660
>>1509570
>The National Science board controls a $9B research budget. If he is telling them to spend on AI and tech competition
You absolute fucking retard, you fucking red-hatted toilet bowl, you degenerate shitstain.

The NSB has scientists from ALL FIELDS. So orange chimp screeching about Crypto or whatever your scam of the day might be, because he can insider trade and get kickbacks for it, that doesn't change that the other fields of science need funding too.

So take your pick, you're either saying Meteorologists, Geologists, and Marine Biologists have committed a grave crime for not being part of Trump's current microscopic interest in making money, or the country that is on two active fault-lines, beset by hurricanes every year, and has the ninth largest coastline of any country in the world, doesn't need geologists, meteorologists, or marine biologists.

Basically fuck you. You shit-eating red-hatted toilet. Use your 2A rights to paint the wall of your dilapidated trailer with whatever cow dung you call a brain. If you're not based in India, I mean.
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>>1509785
you expect miggers to know that science is divided into multiple fields and isn't just an imaginary term made up by muh liggerals?
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>>1509875
NTA but I love to see it.
>liggerals
I was told this wouldn't catch on. Thanks piggeral trash.
>>1509785
I live in a California. I can't afford a trailer. Rent on my trashcan is $2300/mo.
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>>1509785
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO TRUST THE EXPERTS
l m a o
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>>1509876
you're literally not american. and you're not supposed to thank people when they make fun of you for being unintelligent
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>>1509914
>NOOO YOU HAVE TO TRUST THE 79 YEAR OLD MAN WITH NO FORMAL TRAINING IN ANYTHING BUT HOW TO COMMIT TAX FRAUD
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>>1509706
>>1509707
>be President
>run on a mandate
>win election
>try to exercise mandate
>unelected paper pushers resist your mandate
>this is a bad thing
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>>1509985
How are there still people who believe this?
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>>1509988
There aren't. They know they're lying. They want bad things and are simply too cowardly to admit it.
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>>1509985
His mandate was No Wars and he won't stop starting new ones. He's more concerned about his ballroom than he is his election agenda.



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