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https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/trump-says-us-help-ships-stranded-strait-hormuz-tanker-hit-by-projectiles-2026-05-04/
DUBAI/WASHINGTON, May 4 (Reuters) - Suspected Iranian strikes hit several ships in the Strait of Hormuz on Monday and set a UAE oil port ablaze, as President Donald Trump's attempt to use the U.S. Navy to free up shipping provoked the biggest escalation of the Iran war since a ceasefire was declared four weeks ago.
Trump's new mission "Project Freedom", which he announced on social media overnight, was the first apparent attempt to make use of naval power to unblock the world's most important energy shipping route.
But at least in the initial hours on Monday, the gamble appeared to have backfired, bringing no surge of merchant shipping through the strait while provoking a show of force from Iran, which had long threatened to respond to any escalation with new attacks on its neighbours.
The U.S. military said two U.S. merchant ships had made it through the strait, without saying when. Iran denied any such crossings had taken place.
The commander of U.S. forces in the region said his fleet had destroyed six small Iranian boats, which Iran also denied. Admiral Brad Cooper said he "strongly advised" Iranian forces to keep clear of U.S. military assets carrying out the mission.
Iranian authorities, for their part, released a map of what they said was an expanded sea area now under their control, which went far beyond the strait to include swathes of international waters, including long stretches of the United Arab Emirates' coastline on either side of the strait.
South Korea reported one of its merchant ships had been hit by an explosion and fire inside the strait. The British maritime security agency UKMTO reported two ships had been hit off the coast of the UAE, and the Emirati oil company ADNOC said one of its empty oil tankers was hit by Iranian drones while trying to cross.
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After reported drone and missile attacks inside the UAE throughout the day, including one that caused a fire at an important oil port, the UAE said Iranian attacks marked a serious escalation and it reserved the right to respond.

STRAIT STILL BLOCKED
Trump has struggled to find a solution to the disruption of international energy supplies caused by Iran's blockade of the strait, which carried a fifth of global oil and liquefied natural gas before the war.
In the two months since Trump launched an air war against Iran alongside Israel, Tehran has largely blocked the strait to ships apart from its own. Since last month, the United States has imposed its own blockade of ships leaving and entering Iranian ports.
The warring sides issued contradictory statements on Monday about the initial impact of the new U.S. mission, and Reuters could not independently verify the full situation there.
But there was no immediate sign that large numbers of merchant ships were making new attempts to cross, and major shipping companies said they were likely to wait for an agreed end to hostilities before trying to sail through.

REVOLUTIONARY GUARDS SAY NO TRANSITS TOOK PLACE
In a post on X, U.S. Central Command said some of its Navy guided-missile destroyers were inside the Gulf supporting the operation, and that two U.S.-flagged merchant vessels had crossed the strait "and are safely headed on their journey".
It did not identify either the warships or the merchant vessels or say when any of those crossings had taken place.
Iran's Revolutionary Guards said no commercial vessels had crossed the strait in the past few hours, and that U.S. claims to the contrary were false.
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Earlier, Iran said it had fired on a U.S. warship approaching the strait, forcing it to turn around. An initial Iranian report had said a U.S. warship was struck, but Washington denied this and Iranian officials later described the fire as warning shots.
South Korea's Foreign Ministry said there was a fire and an explosion onboard the Namu, a merchant ship operated by South Korean shipper HMM. Yonhap news agency reported that the government was checking intelligence indicating the vessel may have been attacked.
The UAE, meanwhile, reported a fire at an oil installation in its port of Fujairah following an Iranian drone attack. Fujairah lies beyond the strait, making it one of the few export routes for Middle East oil that does not require passing through it.

SHIPPING INDUSTRY AWAITS CLARITY ON SAFETY
Oil prices jumped more than 5% in volatile trade as news of the increased Iranian attacks emerged.
In his social media post announcing the new mission, Trump gave few details of what action the U.S. Navy would take to get ships through the strait.
"We have told these Countries that we will guide their Ships safely out of these restricted Waterways, so that they can freely and ably get on with their business," Trump wrote.
In response, Iran's unified command told commercial ships and oil tankers:
"We have repeatedly said the security of the Strait of Hormuz is in our hands and that the safe passage of vessels needs to be coordinated with the armed forces ... We warn that any foreign armed forces, especially the aggressive U.S. Army, will be attacked if they intend to approach and enter the Strait of Hormuz."
The United States and Israel suspended their bombing campaign against Iran four weeks ago, and U.S. and Iranian officials held one round of face-to-face talks. But attempts to set up further meetings have failed.
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Iranian state media said on Sunday that Washington had conveyed its response to a 14-point Iranian proposal via Pakistan, and that Tehran was now reviewing it.
Neither side gave details of any U.S. response.
The Iranian proposal would postpone discussion of Iran's nuclear programme until after an agreement to end the war and resolve the standoff over shipping. Trump said over the weekend he was still studying it but would probably reject it.
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This freedom flotilla would cause a dip in oil prices, these strikes and rumours of strikes will do the opposite. The first reports were from the Iranians hitting a US naval frigate, this was denied by CENTCOM. Use the oil prices lens
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Why couldn't folks just do their goddamn homework? Everybody was pissed at Iran for how they've been treating these folks, would have been an easy cover: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bah%C3%A1%CA%BC%C3%AD_Faith_in_Iran
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>>1511881
>Trump said over the weekend he was still studying it but would probably reject it.
Trump has painted himself into a corner and has no way of winning the Iran war he got tricked into.
He either needs to concede to Iran's points or willingly jump into the same quagmire that Russia started in Ukraine
He's completely fucked
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Nacho, as they say.
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>>1511919
There is legitimately no winning. Either he gets into another middle eastern forever war that results in thousands of US troop deaths, a decade long occupation, and likely the destruction of massive chunks of the oil industry as a consequence. Or he gives up and accepts he just handed Iran, who he sees as a hostile enemy, billions in revenue.
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>>1511922
>There is legitimately no winning.
All he has to do is hit the desalination plants and the problem will solve itself in a few weeks. But that would make blue button pressers really, really upset, so he can't do it.
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>>1511923
Okay class, explain to the election tourist how Iran would respond to such an attack.

>>1511919
>>1511922
Don't forget there is a deadline, the midterms. Even with how much trump and the republicans are rigging things, he's still going to lose them especially with him directly responsible for raising the price of gas
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>>1511922
You told us that a month ago. That Iran was going to make billions of dollars and that there was nothing the US could do about it. Projecting 2 weeks of revenue onto the next 50 weeks and coming up with hypothetical payouts. But those payout predictions were wrong, as war is a reactive process, and your opponent has a say.
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>>1511925
Blockading them doesn't change this. Every day our blockade stays the price of gas gets higher and higher. We're literally blockading ourselves more than we are them. Eventually we're gonna have to leave and they'll put in the same fucking tolls.
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>>1511927
This. Iran understands that it can keep the blockade up for a hundred years. we're the ones that need the oil going through the strait, our blockade is literally like going on our property and blockading our own house. It was a fucking stupid response but then again, literally every military leader has been a goddamn retard for the last two years.
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>>1511925
>You told us that a month ago. That Iran was going to make billions of dollars and that there was nothing the US could do about it.
They are, LOL

cry bitch. You're not moving Iran from where it has sat for the last 10,000 years. You're not invading Iran successfully like every failed empire has tried the last 3000 years. There are Egyptian Pharaoh who spoke about how foolish the idea of invading Persia was. Orange Man hasn't discovered some secret technique that they didn't know, even with air power.

The moment the blockade is lifted, Iran will make more money than they had in every exchange Obama had with them combined, and it WILL be lifted before the midterms. It will be lifted before we get to $8/Gal gas.
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>>1511924
>a deadline
There's more than just midterms. He also only has 60 days of war authority, and he's blown through it
The GOP led Cuckgress may try to stay silent to avoid weighing in, but the courts are going to quash this 'Uh, we restarted the timer during the ceasefire' bullshit
Trump supposedly already got slapped down trying to stealthily authorize a nuke
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>>1511938
>The GOP led Cuckgress may try to stay silent to avoid weighing in,
If they do, the other reps will throw a shitfit because they see their end approaching this November. This is the least popular war in American history, way less than Vietnam, and none of them want their name on it at the end of the day. The ones who don't consent to pulling out and lowering gas prices will get primary'd out this October.
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>>1511938
The Republican Supreme Court already declared trump is a king and the republicans will never challenge trump.
The only hard deadline is the midterms, and that assumes trump doesn't stage a coup.
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>>1511938
>>1511939
Least popular war and there's legitimately a GOP effort to authorize it.
>https://www.semafor.com/article/05/04/2026/republicans-draft-iran-war-authorization
Incredibly watching a political party commit suicide instead of admitting their leader fucked up.
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>>1511931
That's not true though.
The United States does not need oil going through the Straits of Hormuz. Actually that shipping line isn't relevant for American oil production.
It is China who needs that Iranian oil.
https://www.uscc.gov/research/china-iran-fact-sheet-short-primer-relationship
China buys 90% of Iranian Exported oil. So it is Beijing not Washington which is threatened by this blockade.
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>>1511942
>Least popular war and there's legitimately a GOP effort to authorize it.

That is a HIGHLY unpopular movement, though. You're looking at the last of the MIGA ticket dying off in a final "Israel save me" gasp.
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>>1511923
Iran doesn’t rely on desalination for water
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>>1511943
>The United States does not need oil going through the Straits of Hormuz. Actually that shipping line isn't relevant for American oil production.
The Oil market is global so yes it is true. You're unfortunately trying to pedal lies in an attempt to damage control. The Oil market doesn't depend on American production, it depends on GLOBAL production, of which 25% is now at risk.
>It is China who needs that Iranian oil.
AKA the country we have dedicated most of the world's industrialization to.

https://www.statista.com/chart/20858/top-10-countries-by-share-of-global-manufacturing-output/

>28.6% of all global industry.
This is why GOP and MIGA are so fucking retarded. They think hurting China doesn't directly hurt them after they spent 40 years drop-shipping the entirety of American industry there. It's literally the dumbest thing that anyone thinks this is an 'Own'.
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>>1511923
And then Iran hits the desalination plants in the gulf and suddenly this turns into the complete destruction of the oil industry as the gulf states fucking collapse and the vast majority of oil production grinds to a halt.
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>>1511947
That's the beautiful part: They don't need to do that: These oil rigs NEED to have a constant flow to keep saltwater at bay.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1687428523000894
The oil wells don't run for a few months? Say goodbye to ever drilling there again. Iran literally has to do nothing, they will eventually run out of places to store the oil and the water will flood the wells.
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Why does Trump care about Republican reputation or electoral prospects? He's a lame duck, has never cared about Republicans before, and is probably a Russian agent. Even worst case electoral scenario (for him) of dems taking the Senate and house doesn't see impeachment level majorities, so all we get is oversight and discovery. Trump already proved last time that if you hold out and fight subpoenas for him, he'll pardon you. Trump is convinced he's untouchable and God himself is even protecting him from assassins. If his hand picked supreme court doesn't allow him to pardon himself, he'll resign and JD Vance will do the pardoning. Why on Earth would he think he'd face consequences for anything at this point?

My gut tells me he can and will prolong this until Iran gives him a face saving out. The longer this goes on, the more damage to the US led world order and the petrodollar. The election misinformation will go into overdrive to give him cover personally. Maybe he'll blame US gas companies not producing enough or allowing the sale of gas overseas and he'll be able to achieve another thing on Russia's wishlist, repealing that Obama era law that allowed our gas companies to flourish and helped get the US to lead has production.
We're living in the worst timeline.
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>>1511943
Do you know which countries are between Iran and China and what is an oil pipeline? It’s also quicker to send cargo by train
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>>1511953
>Why does Trump care about Republican reputation or electoral prospects?
If he went full mask-off and revealed that he was a Mossad asset the entire time, two things would happen:
>His entire Republican base would call for his impeachment
and
>Half of his voterbase would think that's based because they're Mossad assets, too.

remember he still has to live here after this is over. There is no Mar-a-lago in tel-aviv. Him hedging bets with the republican party is what he is hoping keeps him out of jail. All of those things he was on the hook for, he's still on the hook for two years later.
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>>1511947
The US doesn't rely on the gulf for the vast majority of its oil. Europe and China do.
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>>1511967
But oil price is determined by global supply. Our prices rise just like theirs do.
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>>1511968
Doesn't change the fact that the US has its own refineries and easier access to oil.
We have a direct supply line running from Canada in the form of tar sand, massive drilling ventures in ten different states and offshore rigs. This isn't counting all the oil stored in Alaska and untapped BLM land.
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>>1511972
If that's the case, prices wouldn't have doubled for gas in the US.
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>>1511972
what makes you suck billionaire cock like this if you're not also becoming rich in the process? it's truly bizarre
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>>1511974
Switching a fuel production chain isn't like flipping a light switch anon. That's why Europe is spazzing over oil refineries being bombed in the strait.
The US has all the infrastructure in place to extract oil and natural gas, but that still requires a fuckload of paperwork.
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>US does Project Freedom
>Iran attacks UAE

Literally, why? They're not involved
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>>1511955
There are countries between Iran and China, but if China is buying 90% of Iranian oil, how much Oil from Iran are those other countries really giving up?
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>>1511974
>If that's the case, prices wouldn't have doubled for gas in the US.
Fun fact, US Oil execs get the best of both worlds.
They get guaranteed extraction and safety in the US, but get the bill based on the global market.

Aren't you glad you get a guaranteed supply of expensive gas? U-S-A U-S-A
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>>1511946
Like every market it is global and local.
When there is famine, it is not because there is a lack of food globally, it is because there is a collapse in the local supply/distribution of food.
If 0 oil tankers passed through the Straights of Hormuz, the US would lose 2.5% of their oil supply. That would not lead to any lines or shortages at gas stations, it would lead to minor price increases.
If 90% of Iranian Oil is going to China, and 0 oil tankers pass from Iran to China, that is likely going to lead to shortages, rationing and gas lines in China. Not just marginal price increases
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>>1512001
https://defencesecurityasia.com/en/uae-mirage-2000-9-lavan-island-refinery-strike-iran-strait-of-hormuz-ceasefire-collapse/
Mirage fighters from the UAE struck Iranian targets
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>>1511942
>Incredibly watching a political party commit suicide instead of admitting their leader fucked up.
I think deep down they wanted Trump to lose in 2024 or were hoping the dems would get rid of the guy in the Biden years. So when Trump won his second term, they just gave up on giving any opposition to the guy
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Iran fucked up hard. This is 5d chess. Now Iran is fucking with an American humanitarian mission, guess we'll have to bomb them back to the stone age. We didn't start this fight, but by God we are gonna finish it.
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>>1512022
>9 April

Why is Iran so petty
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>>1511919
Trump wasn't tricked into jackshit, he was riding the high of bullying Venezuela and thought he could one-and-done Iran.
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>>1512098
I'd agree on the 5D chess in the sense that I don't think we're being told what this war is actually about.

From what I see, this has morphed into warfare of economic attrition. This blockade appears useful for strategically draining the economies of certain countries that don't align with US interests.

Cutting off Iran's cash flow leaves them with less resources to fund proxy wars via Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Houthis. This also puts pressure on China, Cuba, and the EU while encouraging the return of capitalism to Venezuela.
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>>1512014
You don't understand
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>>1512158
The US blockade is only on Iranian ports, it's only going to stop Iranian maritime trade through the Gulf.
Regardless of whether it actually is putting pressure on your listed entities, what's the purpose of that pressure?
It's also clear this war was started by the Israelis, and the US joined it preemptively presumably because the Iranians had attacked the US base in Qatar in retaliation to Midnight Hammer and the Americans knew they'd have to join the effort because Israel isn't powerful enough alone to sustain themselves against Iran (this last point is self evident)
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>>1512160
If Iran doesn't export oil anymore, it is going to make things more difficult for China who buys 90% of Iranian Oil, but how is it going to make things more difficult for Americans? Under 3% of Oil that ends up in American cars and gas stations passes through the strait
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>>1512119
>Why is Iran so petty
Most US war hawks are for attacking Iran over shit that happened decades ago
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>>1512316
Well Iran never stopped causing trouble. They're the ones supplying weapons to Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis to encourage the endless warfare in Israel.

The Arab states are getting tired of it and would rather have peace so they can focus on making money.
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>>1512318
>Well the US never stopped causing trouble. They're the ones supplying weapons to Israel to encourage the endless warfare in Palestine
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>>1512319
If that were the case, then Hezbollah and the Houthis wouldn't be involved. Israel gave Gaza everything they wanted and they kept attacking Israel anyway.

Gaza had a goldenopportunity to become the next Monaco, but voted to become the next Afghanistan instead.
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>>1512017
Nationalize the American oil and gas industry.
Cut out oil execs and the profit motive.
Prices go down.
Everyone wins except for the esstein class, and you will be able to feast on the tears of oil shills crying that this is what causes gas to hit $10 a gallon when trump and US oil are already doing that.
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>>1512336
>Israel gave Gaza everything they wanted
You’re a complete fucking idiot.
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>>1512410
OK, then what's the motivation?
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>>1512463
Public service.
God forbid keeping the country humming along and not making bank at expense of the working class is heresy
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>>1512490
lol. commies are retarded.
You go produce the oil. I'll stay home and yank it to furry porn.
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>>1512228
Iran are exporting oil right now overland by truck and rail. Iran also has access to the Caspian Sea which has a series of canals that connects it to the Baltic Sea and the Black Sea.
>inb4 so what?
you’re retarded



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