>He later added, “It’s going to take time to get back to where we were before this conflict began, but you’re going to see, I think, immediate relief once the strait opens.”

>Last month, the president said prices will drop “tremendously” before midterm elections.

>An American naval blockade is preventing commercial ships from passing through the strait as Iran’s threat to shoot down vessels remains in place.

>U.S. strikes on Iran have largely subsided since a ceasefire went into effect last month; Trump has told Congress the war has been “terminated.”

>Sixty-one percent of survey respondents said the Iran war has increased the threat of terrorism against Americans, 11 percent said it decreased threats, 26 percent said it makes no difference and 2 percent of people skipped the question.

>The Washington Post-ABC News-Ipsos poll was conducted online April 24-28 among 2,560 U.S. adults nationwide. The margin for error is plus or minus 2.2 percentage points.

Really shows how good a job the Conservatively controlled mainstream media does in sanewashing everything trump does where it's only 55% of Americans think trump is insane.

>>1511985
https://i.postimg.cc/DyczKj79/trump-is-falling-apart.jpg
Dementia Don doesn't know what year it is.

>>1511985
How does this compare to polling as to whether or not Joe Biden was cognitively capable to serve?

>>1512003
When the Biden and Buttigieg administration blocked a proposed Spirit/JetBlue merger in 2024, they bragged it was "a victory for U.S. travelers who deserve lower prices and better choices." Democrats in Congress opposed to the merger said it would “have led to fewer flights and higher fares.”
https://www.transportation.gov/briefing-room/trumps-transportation-secretary-sean-p-duffy-secures-relief-spirit-airlines-flyers

>>1512013
Dementia Anon doesn't know what thread it is.

>>1512020
I am responding to your image
Joe Biden's administration blocked a merger which would have kept Spirit airlines alive. It is only bankrupt because figures like Pete Buttegieg and Elizabeth Warren spent political capital to make sure it would not happen

>>1512025
can you please go on an nsfw board if you have to satisfy your crippling humiliation fetish

>>1512025
>Joe Biden's administration blocked a merger which would have kept Spirit airlines alive. It is only bankrupt because figures like Pete Buttegieg and Elizabeth Warren spent political capital to make sure it would not happen
Spirit's business model was dead either way.

>>1512034
If the prior administration didn't block the merger, Spirit Airlines would still be operating

>>1512036
>If the prior administration didn't block the merger, Spirit Airlines would still be operating
No, they would've been subsumed into Jetblue and potentially drag Jetblue down with their debts too. Their business model of cheap flights would be fucking dead; the only thing that would've been saved was the branding.

>>1512020
And Dementia Anon >>1512025 doen't know who posted that image URL.
>>1512013
>>1512025
>>1512036
Well, all Spirit had to do was have a better person as CEO to run such. Y'know, Dementia Anon: he who ran in an even more successful way casinos in Atlantic City. Which are basically money making machines, thus it's more than impossible for them to be bankrupted, certainly by someone who is an ultra-successful business man whose list of business ventures - from steaks & water to a university - set the standard for success, amirite...?

>>1511985
He's better mentally and physically than Biden was, so that's all that matters.

>>1512010
>>1512013
>Using Russian tactics on /news/

*Taps the post*
https://files.catbox.moe/1nmmn6.jpg
Your attempt to both sides doesn't work when trump is objectively the worst president ever.

>>1512049
He's neither and you know it, but you've been making a fool of yourself defending him every day for a full decade now so you can never admit it

>>1512055
For starters, Trump can actually have a conversation that makes sense. Your homeboy Biden couldn't even do that and he was still enough to be the leader democrats wanted.

>>1512057
>Trump can actually have a conversation that makes sense.
Oh, you're trolling. Carry on then

>>1512058
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYNZFCyjI_w
Take a good look. This is who dems put into office. None of you faggots have the right to tell anyone about Trump being mentally capable to lead, after this bullshit you made us endure for four fucking years.

>>1512059
Mhmm

>>1512059
you're literally not american

>>1512059
You're telling me even THAT GUY wasn't retarded enough to start a war with Iran?

Trump doesn't know what he's doing and it's not working. He hasn't had a political win for a long time now, not at all this term he's like King Midas but everything he touches turns to shit. He's probably depressed and anxious

>>1512059
>None of you faggots have the right to tell anyone about Trump being mentally capable to lead
https://i.postimg.cc/DyfV5rt6/anti-harris-sign.jpg
No >>1512059, you are the faggots.
And then Dementia Anon was a senile orange god-glazing zombie.

>>1512059
Trump literally had to be kept out of the situation room for a military operation because he was too emotional and would've done stupid shit that would've exposed the covert ops or screwed with the coordination.

>>1512052
How is it a russian tactic to say if the prior administration made a different choice we wouldn't be here?
That's what Joe Biden did every time he got bad jobs numbers or high covid mortalities

>>1512073
Special 3 day operation in Ukraine and Iran status?

>a projecting thing with BDS that has dementia
...and an orange retard that is senile.

Troons and jeets circle jerking each other over an irrelevant hill TDS cope article. Cope and seethe jeets and troons

>>1512067
It's so wild that he spent all of that time and energy to get a second term and cement his legacy, only to do a demonstrably worse job than the first time around in every possible way

>>1512083
Its indisputable that libs and Biden specifically ruined Trumps second term by forcing Trump to wait four years

>>1511539
>>1511532
>obsessed
the post is about them. therefore, replies to the post are generally going to be about them as well
>>1511554
>needs to mention them elsewhere
So you won't need to mention them anywhere else, >>1511539. Ever.
>it's fine to mention them in a thread about them
Fine.
But once you start mentioning them so much as once in any & all other threads which doesn't mention them, your obsession is proven.
>>1512082
Thanks for admitting you're obsessed with them: and proven in the first word of your post, or you wouldn't need to so much as think about them in the first place. Certainly anywhere else outside of >>1511539. Ever.

>>1512084
So you agree Trump running for a second term in 2024 was a mistake

>>1512025
JetBlue openly said they were going to ditch Spirit's business model, so the options are let it get absorbed and lose the model or make it stand alone and maybe figure out how to keep the model. Now we know the model was always getting fucked either way, but it had a better chance like this.

>>1512089
was it though?

>Trump running for a second term in 2024 was a mistake
>it was though
ftfy

>>1511992
TheHill is a right wing outlet, this means they poll right wingers. So this isn't the general American populace, this is the general American populace of RIGHT WINGERS. Let that sink in.

>>1511985
new york post has anchors who think its funny to start inciting violence and robberies.
washington post supports them don't see anyone complaining about that

>>1512083
He doesn't care about doing a good job, he's a narcissist who just wants to become as rich and powerful as he can before he dies and he's obsessed with building monuments to himself and plastering his name and picture everywhere.
If he actually cared about the country at all he could just fuck around playing golf until 2028 and let competent people actually run things and we'd all be infinitely better off for it.

>>1512105
>let competent people actually run things
What competent people?

>>1512106
>What competent people?
Nobody currently in his admin, but that's also by design.

>>1512109
Kamala is a piss poor alternative get an actual candidate preferably one that isn't pro murder

>What competent people?
As 20th Jan. 2025 onwards has proved, it's now more than impossible for the Democrats to do any worse, so there's your answer: Democrats.
...and the GOP - Gang Of Pedophiles, led by their orange Pedo-in-Chief - aren't people, but subhumans
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2023/9/2/2191235/-Republican-Sexual-Predators-Abusers-and-Enablers-Pt-45
QED.

>>1512110
>Kamala is a piss poor alternative get an actual candidate preferably one that isn't pro murder
>pro murder
https://i.postimg.cc/DyfV5rt6/anti-harris-sign.jpg
The duality of the hypocrite.

>>1512110
Trump killed 200 schoolgirls with an airstrike. You cannot get more "pro murder" than that.

>>1512114
>Trump killed 200 schoolgirls with an airstrike. You cannot get more "pro murder" than that.
Trump does wish that he was able to rape them first, and an airstrike is a kind of abortifacient.

>>1512114
Double tapped. As in bombed, waited until more civilians and rescue workers began digging through the rubble for survivors, and then bombed again.

>>1512059
A senile Joe Biden is still infinitely better than a psychopathic pedophile fascist.

>>1512126
So why didn't the democrats win in 2024?

>>1512126
hahha you wish

>>1512129
you'd have to ask god why he made americans the laughing stock of the universe

You wish that the Republicans don't suffer an absolute bloodbath when the Democrats win in the midterms & 2028.
I'm going to take a screenshot of certain parts of this thread and save such, to use on November of this year & in 2028 to prove the opinions of MAGAtards wrong now. If you haven't been so humilated after said midterms that you won't dare show your subhuman selves in /news/: unless you have a humiliation fetish, Trumptards.
Indeed, after the Midterm Massacre, that orange subhuman will only be able to show its retarded face at the beginning of the 2028 Los Angeles Olympics to officially open such: as that'll be the only power it has left after the left takes over both houses in said midterms. Unless that orange thing is booed so much it either won't have its words heard or leaves like the coward it is due to such humiliation. Or kicks the bucket before that day in 2028.

>>1512129
Trump staged a fake assassination to galvanize his base and Democrats panicked and swapped candidates at the last second like retards

>>1512134
>olympics
Kek he'll just make up some fake tough guy bullshit that LA was begging him to come but he refused & send Vance to get humiliated in his place.
If he actually showed up the booing would be louder than the screams at a Taylor Swift concert.

>>1512134
You'll be able to link to the archived posts
Shill won't care. They made their own OP images of replies making fun of them. You can't shame the shameless

>>1512059
And yet Biden led a successful government and helped counter the largest Russian imperialist action of this century. What has Trump done? Oh that's right, completely fuck literally everything up so bad that it can only be construed as a deliberate effort to destroy America's advantages.

>>1512129
Because Americans are genuinely fucking retarded.

>>1512155
>And yet Biden led a successful government
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

>and yet Trump represents the alternative to Biden
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH
ftfy

>>1512025
Surely the cost of jet fuel spiking out of control with no end in sight had nothing to do with it

>>1512062
not trying to defend anon but the whole world is affected by american politics so trying to have a say and change the mind of an american is a valid political move

Biden suffered from old man brain farts and age finally catching up to him.
Trump is comparatively more awake but leagues more retarded compared to even his first term. We should be wishing Trump got hit with the old man brain farts instead of whatever we have going on here.

>>1511985
if MOCA is the kind of "cognitive test" Trump keeps talking about then a first grader is more qualified in brainpower to be President of the United States. Any 4chan autist is. This should be concerning.

>>1512168
>And yet Biden led a successful government
>So successful that they replaced him with a black woman at the very end

>>1512179
Harris was never president

>>1512174
Trump has fallen asleep on camera multiple times

>>1512156
they'd have to be to vote democrats they learnt since biden's term and got smarter
>>1512155
ahh yes the hilarious Iraq escape where he left american citizens behind and blamed trump for the deadline he set.
the increase in crime and literally trying to hide it by reclassifying it as assault
the amazing administration that bombed volunteer workers and celebrated that they took out a family kids included because he thought they were Isis-k members
yes incredibly successful government, also lets ignore the brainrot where you can't call someone with body dismorphia mentally ill while reducing female safe spaces and allowing mutilation of people under the age of 18
yes amazing amazing

>>1512190
>the amazing administration that bombed volunteer workers and celebrated that they took out a family kids included because he thought they were Isis-k members
Absolutely rich complaining about this when Trump killed over a hundred Iranian school children.
Also
>yes incredibly successful government, also lets ignore the brainrot where you can't call someone with body dismorphia mentally ill while reducing female safe spaces and allowing mutilation of people under the age of 18
>Failure of government is when trans
I'd rather have trans people than a senile retard covering for pedophiles while almost certainly being one himself, who also happens to be driving gas prices up at a rate previously only achievable by a pandemic and seemingly genuinely doing his best to kill the petrodollar.

>We should be wishing Trump got hit with the old man brain farts instead of whatever we have going on here
'Covfefe'.
With that one example of lone brain cell diarrhea - and way before now - no 'wishing' needed >>1512174.
And speaking of brain farts:
>>1512179
>So successful that they replaced him with a black woman at the very end
So retarded, or early stage Alzheimer's, >>1512179?
Trumptardism. Not even once.

>>1512196
>murder is fine because they murder too
nice whataboutism
funny how you enjoy having both, you must love people like lilytino giving you access to little girls in the changing room don't you leftist cunt
>driving gas prices up at a rate previously only achievable by a pandemic
retard alert beep bop retard alert

>>1512201
Can you, or anyone else here, explain how Biden's term was so successful that dems didn't want him to run again? (lol nope)

>>1512203
He's fucking old. Very simple idea; maybe take it into account with the current guy too who Republicans want to run a third time.

>>1512202
>nice whataboutism
Bro you can't say Biden is worse than Trump then bring up something Trump is doing even worse on.

>retard alert beep bop retard alert
Please explain to the class how gas dropping to record low prices with too much in storage because of a lack of use during the pandemic had no effect on the price afterwards. We're all so curious.

>>1512205
you literally bought it up first anon.
>driving gas prices up at a rate previously only achievable by a pandemic
>i rewrote it so i don't look like a moron
yup you really are a retard

>>1512210
>>i rewrote it so i don't look like a moron
The pandemic caused the gas price spike of from 2021-2022. This is plain facts anon; they had too much in storage because they sold too little during the height of COVID and had to spike prices afterwards to compensate.

>>1512131
>>1512156
You guys seem to love democracy until it delivers results you don't like

>>1512212
Tell that to Repubs who are desperately trying to kill voting now that the people realized they got scammed.

>>1512196
>I'd rather have trans people than a senile retard covering for pedophiles while almost certainly being one himself
>I'd rather have trans people
So would said senile retard:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Guve7Y856kY
MAGAts would rather have a pedophile. Oh wait, they already do.
Trump's still doing nothing about a GOP - thus Gang Of Pedophiles - that refuse to make child marriages illegal in certain states. Thus neither do the MAGAts, or they would demand the elimination of all those in the Republican party that refuse to do so to this day. All. No Exceptions. Thus pedo leader, pedo enabling followers.

>>1512204
The party is more over than ever if they actually try to force a third term through

>>1512218
Tell that to them; these mfs will not even deny UNDER OATH that Trump cannot run again.

Weren't they covering up Joe Biden's cancer status for years?
https://youtu.be/LVm6PNdtcVo
Trump could be literally dying and we wouldn't know about it

>>1512204
So why did he get unanimous support in the primaries? It seems like the Democrats wanted him to run again when it came time to cast ballots
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries

>>1512218
He’s said many times he not joking about that. If he’s still alive, expect him to run again

>>1512227
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/tH0ufMltu2I
The memes Trump posts makes me think he is joking about that

>>1512155
How was Biden's government successful? By the time he was done with his term we had 14 million illegals in this country that we know of. It hasn't even been a full year under Trump yet and we have a net negative migration for the first time in my life time.
https://abcnews.com/US/us-1st-time-50-years-experienced-negative-net/story?id=129175522

So why the fuck would I ever vote democrat and let another Biden flood our borders again?

>>1512049
>>1512010
B-B-B-B-BUT BIDENNN

>>1512230
Immigrants are our strength and Trump is a racist, you are a racist for supporting him

>>1512230
>migration drops to net negative
>gas and food prices are more expensive now than they ever under Biden
Shouldn’t that clue you in that brown people were never the problem?

>>1512222
Joe Biden had skin cancer in the past; he literally had some removed during his presidency and made no secret of it.
>https://www.npr.org/2023/03/03/1161049252/biden-skin-cancer
He's referring to that. It's been known for years and then even clarified at the time that it was what he was talking about.

>>1512230
>my only metric of a successful presidentcy is how many browns were allowed in
Yeah meanwhile Biden was better with the economy and international relations; Trump meanwhile has massive job loss and is actively destroying the petrodollar. He ran on reducing the national debt and it has now eclipsed our GDP. He ran on affordability and is now openly saying people should just buy less while prices are spiking.

>>1512234
In May 2025, former U.S. President Joe Biden's office announced he was diagnosed with an aggressive, Stage 4 prostate cancer that metastasized to his bones
Do you think that Joe Biden contracted Prostate Cancer and it reached Stage 4 in the 4 months between the end of his presidency and his May 2025 announcement?

>>1512235
https://i.imgur.com/sYCVet0.jpeg
I'm not sure the economy was that great while Joe Biden was president.
I'm not sure that Foreign Policy was that great either, considering 2 new wars started under his watch. The Ukraine-Russia war and the Israel-Palestine war

>B-B-B-B-BUT TRUMPPP
The shills are getting desperate.
Just several months to the midterms. The bloodbath that'll ensue for Repubs, and the cultists' orange god with all its power taken away. Tick-tock, tick-tock, Trumptards.

>>1512238
Never underestimate Dear Leader’s cattle and their willingness to do whatever he says

>>1512232
>you racist
Yeah yeah, you've been calling everyone that for the last 15 years. Nobody gives a fuck.

>>1512233
They were such a problem that New York City declared an emergency when we bussed a few thousand to them. It's easy for you to not give a fuck when you don't live on a border state, and you don't have to deal with Biden sending the feds to tear down the barriers Texas put up because they were sick of getting flooded with migrants. But the second you have to deal with 1% of what we get each year, then it's a major problem for you.

Illegal immigration is a top issue for me, so without deflecting to other topics tell me why I should ever vote democrat - especially when they're already promising to open the borders when they get back into office.

1512238
>Cried the increasingly nervous shill

>>1512242
It’s incredible that living conditions can get visibly worse after mass deportation and you still refuse to acknowledge it.
I don’t give a shit that you’ll always be cattle. I hope you fucking die on that side.

>>1512235
>Yeah meanwhile Biden was better with the economy
Bullshit.
>and international relations;
Hilarious bullshit.

Let me know when you want to focus on the immigration topic and why I'll never vote for a democrat because they're pro-illegals.

>>1512246
>53% of Americans think Biden handled the economy better
This was back in March. The number has only gotten worse
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-economy-approval-rating-poll-worse-joe-biden-11761776

>>1512211
>they had too much in storage
>had to spike prices afterwards to compensate.
do people not learn supply and demand in schools anymore? american education is failing

>>1512245
>It’s incredible that living conditions can get visibly worse after mass deportation and you still refuse to acknowledge it.
Explain how living conditions are worse and how it's caused by stopping illegal immigration.

>I hope you fucking die on that side.
Trust me, the feeling is very mutual.

You guys know Trump is not on the ballot in 2026 or 2028 right?
You need to actually motivate voters to go to the polls with a policy proposal, not just say "ORANGE MAN BAD GIVE ME POWER"

>>1512242
>They were such a problem that New York City declared an emergency when we bussed a few thousand to them.
>The liberals claim they don't have a problem with water, yet when I dumped a bucket of water of them out of nowhere they suddenly have a problem? Checkmate libtard.


>You don't have to deal with Biden sending the feds to tear down the barriers Texas put up
You were drowning pregnant women with barbed wire.

>>1512237
>I'm not sure the economy was that great while Joe Biden was president.
COVID you retard.

>I'm not sure that Foreign Policy was that great either, considering 2 new wars started under his watch. The Ukraine-Russia war and the Israel-Palestine war
We didn't start either of those wars and we weren't driving away all of our allies you fucking retard.

>>1512251
>>The liberals claim they don't have a problem with water, yet when I dumped a bucket of water of them out of nowhere they suddenly have a problem? Checkmate libtard.
>it's okay for us to flood your basement and force you to take on even more water - but God forbid you dump a bucket of water on my front yard!
You want to vote for this shit then you can take them in.

>>1512250
You know not everyone thinks in terms of election cycles like you do and it's possible to just be concerned about the fact that the President of the United States is mentally and physically unfit for office, right?

>>1512249
>Gas is more expensive
>Food is more expensive
>Rent is more expensive
Every metric for cost of living has gone up. My point is immigration doesn’t control these things and you were a fucking moron to believe the two were connected
Mass deportations have begun and everything is more expensive now than it was with Biden

>>1512255
So are you excited for a new forever war in the Middle East?

>>1512252
There's always an excuse. I am sure if Democrats win in 2028 and the economy tanks and prices skyrocket they'll say "It was the Iran war retard"
There's never any accountability. If something bad happens while a Democrat was in office, it wasn't their fault, it was out of their hands

>>1512256
see
>>1512236
I never heard back from you about the former presidents mental and physical fitness

>>1512243
Shrieked the increasingly scared projecting Trump shill that's too terrified to link posts.
>Obama deported more illegals than Trump
Let me know when you want to focus on Trump's inferiority on the immigration issue, and why I'll never vote for a Republican because they refuse to make child marriages illegal in certain states, and you refuse to condemn this - or you would want all those, with no exceptions, eliminated for the infinitely worse crime of pedophilia - thus you're pro-pedo >>1512246

>>1512260
You’re a retard if you think Covid wasnt responsible for inflation

>>1512248
A simple lesson on how oil works, retard:
>Oil is produced, sold, and used every day
>If it wasn't oil would be fill up available longer term storage fairly quickly
>If storage is filled, new oil can't be pumped because it would have nowhere to go, so the more in storage the slower production becomes
>People stop purchasing oil, production slows, storage fills up
>Production also takes a while to get back to previous rates
>But when they start purchasing again, the amount in storage isn't near enough to sate the sheer daily rate required, and production needs time to catch up
>Meaning that when there's too much in storage, it is because it isn't being used, and if it suddenly started being used the storage cannot substitute entirely for the flow
>So prices go up because suddenly everyone needs it but there isn't enough to go around because the constant production required to meet that quota had been stopped/slowed

>>1512257
Rent has consistently gone up each year by about 2-3%, except for under Biden when it was up each year by 5-7%, and now it's gone up less than 3% this year. So no.

Now stop deflecting away from immigration. I already made it fucking clear, I don't know how much more clearer I can make it, that one of my top issues is illegal immigration. Trump put a stop to illegal immigration, it's going negative for the first time in 50 years. So why the fuck would I ever vote dem? Can you answer that without shifting the goalposts each time?

>My point is immigration doesn’t control these things and you were a fucking moron to believe the two were connected
I never said they were connected, you retard. I'm pointing out how they're NOT connected but you keep bringing it up because you can't defend the democrat position of flooding our borders again.

>Mass deportations have begun and everything is more expensive
Is everything more expensive because of mass deportations? No? Then stop bringing it up and focus on the fucking topic.

>>1512265
Nigger, you’re the one using migration as deflection because Trump is underwater on everything and breaking every promise he made on the campaign trail
If you can remove millions of brown people and NOTHING get betters, your critical thinking skills should kick in and make you realize
>maybe they weren’t the fucking problem
You are fucking cattle and will never question the narrative being spoonfed to you
I will never vote for the party of blind loyalty to pedophiles

>>1512264
leftist retard doesn't know about the emergency reserves

>>1512266
>Nigger, you’re the one using migration as deflection
>One of my top issues is illegal immigration, which was horrendous under Biden, so why should I ever vote for a democrat that wants more of that?
>NOOOOO YOU CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT YOU CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT THESE ISSUES
Thank you for demonstrating why I, and anyone else concerned with migration, should never vote democrat as long as we live.

>>1512267
Using those emergency reserves also drives prices up you fucking retard. Because if we're using those, then there is no more reserves and suddenly oil is even more valuable.

>>1512268
>>One of my top issues is illegal immigration
Yeah this is the problem that you put so much priority on this it tricked you into voting in a retard who did everything you wanted him to do on it and it still did jack shit for all the problems you cite it for.

>>1512265
>Rent has consistently gone up each year by about 2-3%, except for under Biden when it was up each year by 5-7%, and now it's gone up less than 3% this year. So no.
Incredible how people who will harp on how evil the democrats and the vaccine are will completely forget about COVID. This wasn't some fucking flu outbreak; it was a worldwide pandemic that brought international trade to a near standstill. That shit has effects EVERYWHERE that are still being felt today; the ripples aren't just going to fizzle out in a year.

>>1512270
>who did everything you wanted him to do on it
Yes.
>and it still did jack shit for all the problems you cite it for.
Where did I cite those problem? Which problems were they?

>>1512271
>Incredible how people who will harp on how evil the democrats and the vaccine are will completely forget about COVID.
And here we go with the COVID excuse to defend Biden's dumb fucking decisions for four years. And the bitch of it all is that I wasn't the one who brought up the fucking rent topic, but apparently everyone here is desperate to move this goalpost away from illegal immigration.

>>1512268
>promised to end inflation day 1, hasn’t happened
>promised to end Ukraine War, hasn’t happened
>Promised no new wars, started one and ruined America’s standing with its allies
>Promised to cut energy bills in half, gas is more expensive than ever
>Epstein files remain buried
I get it. You only care about browns. I already told you that everything is still getting more expensive despite mass deportations, but you still only care about one thing and refuse to ever talk about anything else even though you know it’s bullshit too
I know you’re cattle. I hope you make him proud when the draft officer shows up.

>>1512274
>I get it. You only care about browns.
And you care about talking about anything except the browns, to the point where you're throwing every topic you can think of.

I've had enough of your attempts to move the goal posts, so I'm going to nail this fucker in the ground and seal it with concrete: which party will result in an increase in illegal immigration if they win an election, Republicans or democrats? Pick one.

>>1512275
I’ve already told you I don’t care that you’re cattle. If you’re cool with constantly being lied to, there’s no point in talking with people like you

>>1512276
Can't answer the question? Okay, I accept your concession.

Since I don't want another flood of migrants crossing into my state, I will never vote democrat. You can't defend their stance on migration.

>>1512275
>And you care about talking about anything except the browns, to the point where you're throwing every topic you can think of.
You're literally proving his point that you only care about brown people suffering as opposed to literally anything that will actually affect your life.

>>1512278
1) Because I'm not going along with your deflections, goal post moving, whataboutisms, etc.
2) Suffering? If you're that concerned about their suffering you should've taken more of them into your blue state instead of expecting us to do all the work. So miss me with that shit.
3) They actually do affect my life, and the lives of people I know. Try getting into a car accident with an illegal who doesn't have insurance and then tell me it doesn't affect your life at all when you have to pay thousands of dollars for repairs.

>>1512281
>Try getting into a car accident with an illegal who doesn't have insurance and then tell me it doesn't affect your life at all when you have to pay thousands of dollars for repairs.
What the fuck are you talking about? If you're in a car accident and the other person doesn't have insurance you just get paid out by your insurance. Unless you're the one at fault. lmao even your fucking hypothetical is retarded.

>>1512274
That sounds bad in a vacuum. How does his track record compare to previous presidents and their ability to deliver on promises?
Like Obama promising no new wars in the middle east and shutting down Guantanimo Bay
or Biden promising to lower the price of housing, and cure cancer.

>>1512283
They worship a man who thinks he's a genius because he can identify squirrels.
https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3ml2i75mvpz23

>>1512284
Obama and Biden are both bad because of these

>>1512250
>You guys know Trump is not on the ballot in 2026 or 2028 right?
Some people just want to watch the right wing world burn.
>You need to actually motivate voters to go to the polls with a policy proposal
Considering how the Republicans have been losing in elections in recent months, there's plenty of ex-Trumptards who have all the motivation in the world - especially Vengeance Voting in said months - because there's only one policy those who aren't Republicans have been given on a platinum platter by said Republicans: the Democrats aren't Republicans. They're certainly not Trump.
So the solution's simple: if you don't want the Democrats to win massively in 2026 & 2028, get rid of Trump, and eliminate all MAGA elements: and not only in the GOP but the country as a whole. A 'Purge', if you will. Make the very concept of 'MAGA' thoughtcrime.

>>1512283
>If you're in a car accident and the other person doesn't have insurance you just get paid out by your insurance.
Yeah you might want to tell that to one of my co-workers because he got screwed over when some illegal bitch without a license hit him. Not only did he have to pay for repairs, but his rates went up even though he wasn't at fault. And this is just one example of how illegals affect our lives, in spite of your dismissal. You can go on about "literally anything that will actually affect your life" when you don't have to deal with illegals, until a bus load of them arrives at your state, and then it's an emergency.

>>1512277
The point Im making is migration has no bearing on the cost of living even though Trump and every other republican says otherwise. Since mass deportations
>Gas is more expensive
>Food is more expensive
>Rent is more expensive
If immigrants have no effect on this stuff, then what is the purpose of fixating on it?

>>1512295
So your friend lied, hit an illegal immigrant, and their insurance raised your friends rates and refused to pay for an accident they caused?
Cool story bro

>>1512296
>The point Im making is migration has no bearing on the cost of living
I never said it did. You brought that up, not me.
>Rent is more expensive
Misleading. It was going up at a much higher rate under Biden, and is now back to normal. In before muh COVID excuse.
>If immigrants have no effect on this stuff, then what is the purpose of fixating on it?
I'm not. You are. Show me where I posted that immigrants are increasing the cost of rent. Or food. Or gas.

Go ahead I'll wait. (This is why I kept calling out your goalpost moving bullshit, because I knew you would try this next)

>>1512293
A very small portion of the population is motivated by resentment and spite when they go to the polls. Usually people who are angry in that way just don't vote because they are demoralized.
You usually need a positive agenda to get massive turnout, like Obama's HOPE and CHANGE.

>>1512298
Don't believe my anecdotal example? Okay. Perhaps we can talk about the dozens of Americans that have been killed by illegals driving semi-trucks because California doesn't give a fuck and will grant CDLs to people who can't even fucking read.

>>1512299
Your incredible lack of reading comprhension is astounding. You've said over and over that you only care about immigration. I keep telling you it has no fucking bearing on real issues Americans are dealing with, and despite you saying you agree, you refuse to talk about anything else.
If immigration does not matter on things like rent, food, and gas, then why do you only want to talk about. You said it's a top issue for you >>1512242 but you won't even say why.

>>1512284
Nothing they promised was a ridiculous as the shit Trump was saying he'd do.

>>1512301
You were BTFO every time you brought up these shitty trucking examples, but feel free

>>1512300
>A very small portion of the population is motivated by resentment and spite
Which is what Trumptards will be reduced to being, as their whole raison d'etre is 'Owning The Libs'.
When all that'll do for them is result in a Soviet America, where libs own you. They're already owning themselves every second they allow that orange thing to politically exist.
Why are Reublicans losing in recent elections, due to what that orange thing being allowed to politically exist is doing? Can't be purely due to a massive upswing of actual Democrat voters in (previously) Republican areas doing so. There are (previously) Republican voters who have had enough of Trump.
But either way, the Democrats are winning/will win. And all because of the simple Republican-given policy that is the simple fact that the Democrats aren't the Trump-infected Republicans.
If said Republican party want to continue to exist - certainly have any political credibility after the retardation that is 'MAGA' - they must eliminate that - as has ultimately been proven since early 2017-early 2021 and from early 2025 onwards - which never had the right to exist in the first place: MAGA.

>>1512302
>I keep telling you it has no fucking bearing on real issues Americans are dealing with
Translation: You don't care and since it's not an issue for you, it's not an issue that should matter to anyone else.

>but you won't even say why.
I did though (talk about reading comprehension). If you look back I told you I live in a border state and have to deal with millions of illegals crossing each year whenever a dem is in office. Which is why I voted to stop it, as most border states often do. The irony is that you'll vote for more illegal immigration and even send the feds to take down barriers put up by those border states, but then you'll have a panic attack when a few thousand get sent to your state. So it's not an issue until you have to deal with a small percentage, and then it's such a huge issue it becomes a state emergency. Imagine that.

>>1512306
>If you look back I told you I live in a border state and have to deal with millions of illegals crossing each year whenever a dem is in office.
They don't have to take your lie at face value.
'millions of illegals' are not crossing through the border each year when Dems are in charge, thats just what you're ordered to shill in your contract

>>1512307
>'millions of illegals' are not crossing through the border each year when Dems are in charge,
14 million illegals in 2023, one million increase each year. while Biden was in office. It's funny how the numbers were going down each time Trump was in office. Why do you think that is?

>>1512308
Probably because you're looking at fake figures designed to amplify a fake immigrant crisis
because again, you're a filthy lying esl shill arguing in bad faith

>>1512306
Americans cared about migration because they were told it's the leading factor for rising costs. If brown people are being deported and my shit still gets more expensive, people are going to realize
>Oh, shit. Pedro wasn't the problem. I wonder what else republicans are lying to me about
The only ones that don't either know they were being lied to and don't care or just too fucking stupid to think for themselves. Either way, you're all cattle.

>>1512311
>Americans cared about migration because they were told it's the leading factor for rising costs.
Can you point out where I said that anywhere in this thread? I'd love to see it.

Trump is strong as fuck for his age. Just watch him golf, his swing is top tier. It takes a lot of back and upper body strength to generate the kind of power he does, anyone that knows anything about golf recognizes it, it's just a well known fact in golfing circles that Trump could go pro if he wanted to.

>>1512315
These posts sound so much like the Putin propaganda about how he wrestles bears and shit. It's about as believable too. I wonder what the connection is? Is it from the same source, is Trump imitating Putin, or is it just normal trait of authoritarians?

>>1512309
>complaining about fake figures
>in a thread about a modern poll
Interesting tactic, "esl shill" shill.

>>1512315
He’s well known for cheating at golf too

>>1512320
Don't worry about it, you can just impotently whine while not providing any source for your bullshit figures

>>1512326
NTA "esl shill" shill.

>>1512326
NTA again, turbo faggot, but it literally took a jewgle search
https://www.pbs.org/newshour/nation/illegal-immigration-hit-record-of-14-million-in-2023-pew-report-finds

>>1512327
love how triggered you are

>>1512305
In 2004, people had problems with the George Bush presidency. The Iraq War was not as smooth as the Persian Gulf war of 1990.
John Kerry ran on the platform of not being George Bush.
George Bush got more of the electoral college and more of the popular vote in 2004 then he did in 2000. Because "George Bush bad, vote for me because I am not George Bush" didn't work. Even if the media was working overdrive to drag his name through the mud with Bushisms on late night comedy shows

>>1512329
So you admit you're trolling?
Well then.

>>1512330
Bush did suck though. Not as bad as Clinton, but he definitely sucked.

>>1512303
Promising to cure cancer is pretty ridiculous
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2019/06/12/joe-biden-says-hell-cure-cancer-campaign-stop-ottumwa-iowa/1429287001/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Df0xnmxLuw

>>1512328
>The Pew Research Center's closely watched gauge rose from 11.8 million a year earlier and surpassed the previous high of 12.2 million in 2007.
lmao, so Obama didn't let immigrants in at all, and Republicans let most of them in.
I'll accept your concession.

>>1512334
I remember Trump promising the same thing as a cancer vaccine is on the horizon.
Still wouldn't vote Democrat because if Trump cured cancer they'd protest and demand rights for cancer cells.

>>1512295
>Not only did he have to pay for repairs, but his rates went up even though he wasn't at fault.
So his insurance screwed him even though (if you're telling the truth about the illegal hitting him) he wasn't at fault? Bro the illegal part doesn't fucking matter in that he just had shitty insurance. If you get hit by a car by someone uninsured, illegal or not, your insurance per the whole fucking point of insurance is covering the repairs, so either someone is lying or your buddy is just getting scammed out of payouts.

>>1512281
>>1512295
>The best example anon can think of an illegal affecting his life is a friend getting scammed by his insurance and an illegal was involved in the car accident
l m a o

>>1512349
They shouldn't be driving at all, on top of they shouldn't even be here. But naturally they break the laws of driving just as easily as they break the laws of entering a country without permission.

And democrats like you defend that shit because you don't have to deal with the consequences.

>>1512351
>the best example
>implying
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpnIz0WOk2Y

>>1512352
>Uh illegals are bad because they cause car accidents!
Oh, oh please go on about how somehow illegals are the sole thing causing car accidents in the US, or even that they contribute an overwhelming majority. It'd be so fucking funny.

>>1512353
Please keep going, you make your point look more and more retarded the more you post
>Uh illegals are bad because they're in cars

>>1512355
>Oh, oh please go on about how somehow illegals are the sole thing causing car accidents in the US
Didn't say that, did I strawman?

>>1512356
>pay no attention to the cartel gang member with a .50 cal pointing straight at traffic

>>1512357
Your best example of "illegals are negatively affecting me!" is literally just "They drive and get into accidents sometimes and I don't like it!" like that isn't just the nature of driving in the US.

Newsflash dumbass; if you're not being paid by insurance after getting hit by an unlicensed driver, their legal status isn't exactly relevant. Your insurance is screwing you, and I don't know how to explain that an unlicensed driver doesn't become any worse at the wheel depending on their citizenship.

>>1512358
>Look guys he's just driving like a dumbass with a gun
I can go on Kick right now and find a dozen US citizens being more of a danger on the road than this guy. Also the proof this is "cartel" seems to amount to "Well they're playing mexican music, only a cartel member can do that while they drive".

>>1512359
>Your best example
You keep saying this. There's other examples, like their contribution to drug and human trafficking. That car example was only one anecdotal.

>>1512359
>I don't know how to explain that an unlicensed driver doesn't become any worse at the wheel depending on their citizenship.
The whole California truck driver thing was Conservatives melting down that CDL licenses given to foreigners didn't expire sooner than the same licenses given to citizens.
Its just retardation for the sake of being retarded

>>1512361
>There's other examples, like their contribution to drug and human trafficking
So now you gotta resort to "uh, but drug and human trafficking!" because your personal experiences amounted to nothing. The problem is, US citizens are literally several times more likely to be involved in those things than an illegal is you retard. They're literally more likely to be VICTIMS of those crimes than the ones doing them.

>>1512363
>So now you gotta resort to "uh, but drug and human trafficking!" because your personal experiences amounted to nothing.
No I just haven't given them all yet. Another example - that I already know you'll dismiss - is one attempted to break into my apartment years ago and ran off when he saw me with a pistol.

But of course I can already hear the usual "b-but Americans commit more crimes!", kinda like what you and this fag here >>1512360 already did, ignorant of the fact that you dumb fucks are importing an entire class of criminals that have contempt for our laws as soon as they come here. Because you don't think they break the laws enough, you're okay with millions of illegals coming here.

I'm not putting up with that shit. So yeah I'm going to keep voting for Trump and people like Trump who will at least give half a fuck about border enforcement.

>>1512364
I had an ice cream cone once but a foreigner took it from me and ate it in front of me and a cop saw the whole thing and told me that not letting migrants steal your ice cream is a crime now because of obama so I vote for Trump now too

>>1512364
>Another example - that I already know you'll dismiss - is one attempted to break into my apartment years ago and ran off when he saw me with a pistol.
Literally how do you even know he was illegal if he ran off lmao.

>an entire class of criminal
Illegals literally have a lower rate of crime than citizens.

>>1512371
>Illegals literally have a lower rate of crime than citizens.
Illegals are committing crimes just being in the country. Unlike Americans. Want to know the percentage of illegal immigrants that follow the law? Zero!

>>1512375
aren't you embarrassed when you larp as a white american

>>1512376
you're hating on them for claiming that every illegal they see is a criminal
all they're doing is looking in the mirror and telling the truth

>>1512363
>Undocumented
>We know this because
Faith? Or are we confusing illegal immigrants with legal again?

>>1512375
Border jumping is a misdemeanor. They have a lower murder, burglary, rape, etc. rate. This is the same as asking me to be disgusted about a high rate of jaywalking.

>>1512380
>Faith? Or are we confusing illegal immigrants with legal again?
>No they're totally doing it they're just really good at not getting caught

>>1512381
>Border jumping is a misdemeanor.
Is every natural born US citizen guilty of a misdemeanor? No? Welp there goes your argument of
>Illegals literally have a lower rate of crime than citizens.

>>1512384
>Well yeah they have a lower rate of murder, theft, rape, etc.
>But have you considered they did a Crime and that's basically the same as doing harm to another human being regardless of what they physically did
Please keep flailing. Maybe it'll make some lurkers realize that sharing a position with you makes them equally retarded.

>>1512386
stop bullying the esl shill
if they're not allowed to make farcical statements based on fentanyl delusions, what kind of discussion do you think there would be on this board?

>>1512386
>>Well yeah they have a lower rate of murder, theft, rape, etc.
That we know of, and of course you had to add that disclaimer after you realized your earlier claim was wrong, and are one again trying to downplay invading a foreign country as if it's at the same level as jaywalking. Either way they're breaking the law just being here. They have no regard for our laws, as they've demonstrated. Not one single member of that group isn't a criminal - unlike US citizens.

>>1512388
>That we know of
Once again we enter the "They're committing tons of crimes. They're just really good at not getting caught" fallacy.

>invading a foreign country as if it's at the same level as jaywalking
lmao that's the legal definition. Tell that to a court.

>>1512391
>Once again we enter the "They're committing tons of crimes. They're just really good at not getting caught" fallacy.
It's not a fallacy if every single one of them is committing a crime.

>lmao that's the legal definition. Tell that to a court.
Thankfully, the Supreme Court has already ruled that deportation isn't a punishment.

>>1512392
>Thankfully, the Supreme Court has already ruled that deportation isn't a punishment.
Oh so they're committing a "crime" that involves no harm of someone and has no punishment then. Got it. Yeah. Really scared of this criminal menace.

>>1512393
Wrong, dumbass. All of them are guilty of violating 8 USC 1325, and that has it's own penalties. The Supreme Court ruled that deportation is not a punishment. Lear2read.
>Got it. Yeah. Really scared of this criminal menace.
They're all criminals, yes? Say it with me now. ALL of them are criminals. Go ahead and admit it.
>mfw democrats are upset that I don't want more criminals and vote to keep them out

>>1512388
So why doesn't MAGA actually want to fix the illegal immigrant problem
You should be angry at them for being incompetent racist chuds

>>1512395
>They're all criminals, yes? Say it with me now. ALL of them are criminals.
Misdemeanor. Unless you want me to count all your jaywalking against you, filthy criminal.

>>1512396
>So why doesn't MAGA actually want to fix the illegal immigrant problem
We are. That's why we have a net negative migration for the first time in half a century.

>>1512397
So they're all criminals, yes? Come on! I know you can do it.

>>1512395
>The Supreme Court ruled that deportation is not a punishment.
The Supreme Court is supremely full of shit.

>>1512398
Misdemeanors aren’t crimes. Especially not in the way you’re using the word.

>>1512399
Who pays you to just say this retarded shit?

>>1512399
>Misdemeanors aren’t crimes
Idiot

Esl shill is projecting again

>>1512399
>Misdemeanors aren’t crimes.
WEW LAD! Be sure to tell that to a court!

>>1512333
>but he definitely sucked
>either Bill Clinton or Ghislaine Maxwell's horse
But enough about the either gay or zoophile Trump, who sucked 'Bubba'.

Reminder that you're letting election tourists derail the thread from what it should be.
Trump's obviously failing mental and physical health and how he is destroying America.

Don't fall for the Russians attempt to change the facts.

>>1512409
To be fair, what we’re talking about is part of how he’s destroying America.

>>1512409
Reminder that you were perfectly okay with Biden's far worse mental decline.

>>1512409
>failing mental and physical health
This meme only came around when MAGA pointed out that Biden was slurring his words and forgetting where he was half the time.
We're at the 'I am rubber, you are glue' stage of political discourse from demshits

>>1512414
>We're at the 'I am rubber, you are glue' stage of political discourse from demshits
Projection. You guys shat on Biden for being old, now Trump’s doing the exact same shit and worse and you can’t even acknowledge the hypocrisy.
Reminder, when Trump was shitting on Biden for being the oldest president we ever had, he was the second oldest and would be THE oldest should he win in ‘24. This was pointed out to you retards again and again. Now, here we are.

>>1512415
they get paid to be hypocrites and liars, you're talking to a shill after all. he's not white or american, and i would venture to say he might not even be able to pass the turing test

>>1512415
>doing the exact same shit and worse
Biden was suffering from an aggressive form of prostate cancer that had spread to the rest of his body.
Trump had a bruise on his hand once and misspoke a few times.
>>1512416
Nigger

>>1512417
trump fucked little girls and ruined the country, biden was a democrat

>>1512418
Hunter fucked little girls too, and he stored footage of that shit on his Icloud account, whereas you niggers said the laptop didn't exist.
And then Trump released the Epstein files (which demshits said was an antisemitic conspiracy theory for two decades B T W), but apparently you care about pedophiles now, so you won't shut the fuck up about them.
Good luck running Kamala Harris in 2028 you FUCKING FAGGOT

>>1512417
The downplaying ain’t working, anon. Trump’s fucking deranged, everyone knows it, and everyone who was paying attention could see it coming. It doesn’t help that he was a fucking bastard even before his brain fell apart.

>>1512419
3/10

>>1512419
>trump can fuck little girls because hunter's penis!
LOL. god you just can't make this shit up. your life is truly a cosmic joke, esl shill

>>1512420
>Trump’s fucking deranged, everyone knows it
You're fucking deranged. You expect everybody to forget the roomba you elected in 2020.

>>1512423
you must be getting time and a half, huh shill. you're so motivated tonight

>>1512415
>now Trump’s doing the exact same shit and worse
Show me.

>>1512423
Oh no, not at all, that’s the best part. You guys know your guy’s nuts too, which is why you’re here going “b-b-but Biden!” And it’s not fucking working, because that fucking roomba was STILL better than Trump.

>>1512414
>failing mental and physical health
>This meme only came around when MAGA were reduced to projecting & deflecting when Trump was slurring his words and forgetting where he was half the time.
>We're at the 'I am rubber, you are glue' stage of political discourse from magats
ftfy

>>1512427
>And it’s not fucking working, because that fucking roomba was STILL better than Trump.
But that's wrong you fucking retard. Your boy let in an extra 4 million illegals. My president is kicking them out and locking the door.

>>1512429
you're literally not american and your script is boring

>>1512429
>Yeah the US dollar is plummeting and the petrodollar is now actively in danger
>Prices are spiking immensely and no one can get a job
>Oh and we're going into another forever war in the middle east
>...But we deported illegals! And all it took was making ICE into an outright military force that has killed several citizens and is likely going to have to answer for numerous human rights violations in the future

>>1512431
>>...But we deported illegals!
Which is what I voted for.
>And all it took was making ICE into an outright military force that has killed several citizens
I wish ICE was half as bad as you make them out to be so we can crush these sanctuary cities and force democrats to follow the law for once. Unfortunately, they've been using kid's gloves with you leftist faggots. If only they'd crack down on you as hard as they did for Jan 6ers.

>and is likely going to have to answer for numerous human rights violations in the future
lol keep coping. Both Good and Pretti were justified.

>>1512432
i wish your act was half as good as you thought it was esl shill. nobody thinks you're american

>>1512429
Even if that was true, Trump’s shit is still worse.

>>1512430
post your passport

>>1512434
>let in rapists and murderers to serve on your plantations, mow your lawns and serve you nummy street vendor food
>HURRR DRUMPF

>>1512436
>>1512434