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What are the requirements to be a "real Porsche"?
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inline 6
rear engine
rear wheel drive
wishbone/mutilink on both axles
coupe
designed and built by porsche
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>>28587973
B6 engine and rwd
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>>28587975
this plus manual transmission
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>>28587973
A good handling, mostly lightweight sportscar

redtards who think the 911 is the only real porsche don't know anything about porsches
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>>28587975
>inline 6
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>>28587973
To be slower than a corvette less than half the price
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>>28587975
t. My dad works for 911
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Everyone knows that it's only a Porsche if a fat Mexican who drives a Toyota Corolla says it is.
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>>28587973
If it's a Tiger tank or 356.
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>>28587973
A REAL Porsche has:
>double wishbones bone up front
>air cooled engine or / MEZGER engine or/ Revs past 8k

A real Porsche:
>does not need to be defended: ‘we’ll akshually it has 911 mirrors and door handles!’
>does not have McDonald’s
>does not have ‘transaxle’
>isnt an Audi.

But wait! A real Porsche:
>has a sport chrono
>has an LSD
>has a dry sump
>doesn’t have a turbo unless it says TURBO on the nameplate and has a Mezger engine

Please use the above guide to determine if any car is a certified real Porsche.

A few examples of REAL Porsches.
>993
>917
>962
>997 GT3
>997 Turbo
>any CUP car
>992 GT3

Certified NARP:
>944 (VW transaxle)
>Macan (Audi platform and engine)
>996 C2 (Open diff McDonald’s with commuter grenading engine)
>997 C2S (open diff McDonald’s with grenading engine)
>991 C2 (Open diff McDonald’s with bore scoring engine)
>991 C2S without options (glass diff with on disc DLC you can’t access)
>Taycan (Audi)
>GT4 (McDonald’s on all 4)
Thank you for your attention on this matter. The list above is definitive.
Of course it also correlates with MARKET VALUE, and as such it’s not up for debate.
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Kill everyone but me ITT
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>>28588231
>944 (VW transaxle)

NARP posters are absolute retards
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>>28588231
997 gt3 and turbo have mcdonalds
you are a legit stupid fuck
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>>28587973
rear mounted air cooled boxer engine
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Not be a Boxster, Cayman, Macan, 924, 944, or 968
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>>28587976
Tfw this masterpiece is narp
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>>28588231
How does it feel to get raped by Porsche daily brown son? Best remember that. As salamu alaikum Muhammad
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>>28588237
It’s a VW project that Porsche consulted on and then produced when VW decided it was shit and Porsche needed a new car. It’s a VW built with VW parts and a VW engine and a VW transmission in a VW factory.
Sorry, that’s a NARP!
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For me its a Porsche Carrera 4. The ultimate all rounder mixed with comfort
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>>28588249
But they have MEZGER engines which tie them to the 917 and air cooled 911s so they are grand fathered in. Yes, it is extremely embarrassing for the brand that the Audi A8 in 1994 had Multilink suspension and the current Porsche 992 does not but I didn’t say the 997 turbo was a good car. I said it was a real Porsche. Your 997 GT3 isn’t that different than a Cup car in those days. Why would you buy a 997 over an R8, Lamborghini, Ferrari, M3? I don’t know, I didn’t say I would. I’m not defending it, it’s pathetic.
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>>28588376
>>28588231
It is a certified Porsche
>RS spider derived engine revs to 10k
>double Bs on all 4
>DCT

It’s not a debate really
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>>28588396
> It’s a VW built with VW parts and a VW engine and a VW transmission

retard doesn't comprehend that VW/Porsche dynamic in Porsches racing development and how "real" Porsches actually have the most VW dna

Damn, you're not even good at this
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>>28587973
Being manufactured by the Porsche company.

That's it.
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I dont mean to hijack this thread but for someone exactly 6 feet tall, whats the maximum height for backseat passengers to not feel uncomfortable. I know the size is very limited and the seats arent meant as daily users but could i have someone as tall as 5'7 sit their without actively pressuring either me or them?
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>>28588411
you are a schizo retard
a 991.2 gt3 does everything the mezger does but better but it's not even on your radar
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>>28588431
Yeah but really it’s a VW project commissioned by VW for VW factories using VW parts (and some Audi). Porsche even had a big problem with production a few years in because it was VW copy and a VW factory so they had to buy it out and deal with a bunch of legal stuff to keep it going.

It’s a NARP

>>28588440
For like 10-15 mins and you’d be squeezed against the steering wheel.
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>>28588441
$200k sports cars don’t have McDonald’s struts. THEY DONT HAVE STEEL IN THE CHASSIS.
Fucking Ferrari and Lambo are full fucking carbon fiber at that price point with 10 cylinders.
Sorry sir, it’s not ok just because Porsche does it. Why does a fucking A3 have more aluminum in it by percentage than a 911 GT3?
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I think if Porsche actually means steel chassis and McDonald’s struts and open diffs and no power, as the 986 owners club ITT would have us believe, that Porsche ain’t actually a good car
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>>28588455
mcdonalds 997 gt3s are basically 200k now too retard. 991.2 manuals weigh like 50lbs more than a 997 but have over 500hp and rev to 9k. i'm not interested in buying some pasta shit that breaks down when you look at it wrong
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Why do so many butthurt brownoids come out of the woodwork when Porsche is mentioned? Is it because they can’t afford a modern 911 so they must invent arbitrary classifications to get mad about?Or is it one autist with a macan who got so biblically BTFO that he never recovered? Hmm
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>>28588464
>500hp
465 is more real. 300lbs ft of torque.
They overheat and have connecting rod grenading problem. I think you’re a bit biased mate. M3 seems to be more power more torque more reliability and similar quality material.

Either way, while the list above clearly offends poor people, it actually does define NARP and predictably and reliably which ones will depreciate hard and which will not.

As for the GT3 nameplate? Well let’s just agree they moved the GT3.R away from the GT3 street for a lot of good reasons.
Let’s be honest with ourselves instead of ignorant and biased.
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>>28587973
Among other things, must be made before 2009
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>>28588482
you're thinking of the 991.1
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>>28588231
Every 911 has a transaxle you stupid muppet.
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>>28588526
Yes, yes you’re very acutely aware of the details bravo, bravo. generally ‘transaxle’ Porsches refer to the front engine RWD 928 and friends despite your wonderfully autistic mind disliking the title being used in such a way. You see the 928 sucks but it’s ’transaxle’ gives it ‘perfect 50/50 balance so it’s actually a real Porsche’ as the logic goes. Atleast that’s the logic of the people who own them. It’s not the logic of people who don’t own them, strange enough.
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Thank God I'm not into Porsches whatsoever, you people are so fucking insufferable.
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>>28588539
Every time your diff is integrated in your transmission you got yourself a transaxle, autism-kun
That's just what the word means.
Germans, for some reason, think the word transaxle only describes a layout like pic rel, engine up front and transmission in the back. It's just another case of foreign terms applied incorrectly (or half correctly), happens all the time. Don't know if you're german (and couldn't care less), this probably applies to other non-english as well
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>>28588539
So what the fuck is this then? (Hint, it's from a 930 Turbo)
>>28588549
>Germans, for some reason, think the word transaxle only describes a layout like pic rel, engine up front and transmission in the back.
That's still a transaxle, GM did the same with a couple generations of Corvette and Nigsan did with the R35
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>>28588549
Yes excellent, the pic related is NARP
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>>28588575
If it’s a 944 or variants it’s narp and Porsche fags call them transaxles bc there are a lot of model names and it’s easier. Don’t get lost in the weeds here.
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>>28587973
sports car
that's it
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>>28588440
>backseat passengers
You're asking the wrong question. Who in their right mind would buy a "sports" sedan? Especially if you're gonna pay 6 figures. Just get an actual sports car for actual sports car performance and a regular sedan (or similar people-hauler) for the rare cases where you have to drive 2+ passengers around at once
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For me, it's the 965, an Audi V8 powered development mule for the 969
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Didn't read the thread
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>>28587973
Has to be made and designed by porsche engineers with performance and excellence in mind, not by executives who need to reach a quota
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>>28589065
Sames

>>28589072
What's the dick-in-your-ass quota you need to reach over at Ram Ranch?
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>>28589098
What compels a man to even think about butt fucking other men?
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>>28589106
german car ownership
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>>28589112
>average truck owner mindset
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If it has the Porsche badge then it's a Porsche.
Yes I drive a Macan
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>>28589156
Nice try. The Macan is the worst example of a Porsche being NARP (Not a real Porsche).
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>>28589162
Housewives keep Porsche in business so they can make the cars that you like. You should thank them.
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>>28589169
You're welcome
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>>28589106
It's your reality little nigga
>>28589112
Post your Dodge rental
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>>28587973
Air cooled and built before hitler ate it
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>>28589169
Do you think you are a housewife?
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>>28589065
Is that a 4 piston brake caliper
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>>28587975
>wishbone suspension
This discredits basically all of porches cars, include the majority of their 911s lmao
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>>28589351
yep
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>>28588455


I telhewhut, the real problem with automotive steel these days is that practically all manufacturers use cheap NARAs (Not A Real Alloy) instead of the real shit.
Just for an example, aircraft landing gear are one of the most demanding applications in the world, that want all of more specific strength, fatigue life, environmental resistance, et cetera et cetera. And what do they use? Not carbon fiber, not aluminum, but steels. They're using Aermet, S53, M54, Custom 475, Marage 350. Real nigga shit. We're talking 2000+ megapascal, twice as much tensile strength as an equivalent volume of T-5 titanium alloy, equal or greater specific strength accounting for density, on top of toughness and longevity that is physically impossible for aluminum or fiber-polymer composites, type shit. But people don't even know.
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>>28589116
>>28589173
seething
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>>28589565
Your brown
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>>28589586
no kid, it's

>signed, your brown son

try again
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>>28587973
>What are the requirements to be a "real Porsche"?

Coupe, RWD, Rear Engine
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>>28589540
Let’s not get started on Porches Zamak use. Brown dog poster will have a melty
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>>28588396
Same as the boxman
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>>28589106
Some of us are catchers though and prefer to picture us as the ones who are fucked.
The next few times you watch porn, picture yourself as the girl.
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>>28589984
I don't watch porn
Also you're weird
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>>28589991
You sound insecure sweaty, loosen up. What's the matter, afraid you might enjoy it? Teehee
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>>28588411
DKW has the most complicated front suspensions imaginable because they're retarded and must put the engine in front of the axle.
Mcdonalds struts are fine.
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>>28590014
MCDOLANS LOLOLOL IMAGINE NOT RIDIN' ON DUBBA BONES ESSE
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>>28590014
McDonald struts are objectively worse than double bones for sporty applications and Porsche knows this and has used them on race cars for years.
Their customers are just dumb and they know this too
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be a gt2
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>>28590004
the people in your life are relieved when you're not around
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>>28590083
>Resorts to personal insults
Aww i guess i touched a nerve, hih sweaty.
Usually that means you are gay, you protest too much.
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>>28587973
Be brewed by Porsche
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>>28590337
hit a lot closer to home than you were expecting didn't it :^) you are 100 years too early to challenge me in internet psychoanal-lysis
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>>28590354
MUST CONSOOM!
>sips Porsche jizz©
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>>28590377
>not showing up to the dealer frequently for free Porsche bean juice
We are not the same
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>>28588455
>THEY DONT HAVE STEEL IN THE CHASSIS.
Hoooooly retard duster. Aluminum has pretty much the same specific modulus and specific strength as steel but an aluminum structure will fail after enough cyclic loading no matter how small.

Aluminum is used in vehicle chassis because it has a larger cross section for a given strength and stiffness which allows for lazier/cheaper structural engineering because sheet aluminum will have higher out of plane rigidity.

Ferraris are the best driving cars in the world but they're let down by their construction, aluminum is NOT an adequate chassis material for an heirloom car. Grown-up companies use carbon fiber, steel is fine for budget sports cars and frankly, it's good enough for a 911, they're overpriced cars for more reasons than just that.
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It needs a Jewish designer. They are very skilled at making 911's. Arabs simply can't.
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>>28590374
Congrats on coming out anon, enjoy the penii
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>>28590578
weak
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>>28587975
Name 3 Porsches with an inline 6 engine you dumb faggot.
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>>28590430
faggot. aluminum is lighter than steel and very strong. quit coping. A BMW M8 has more carbon fiber than a 911 of equal price and that is truly pathetic.
An A8 has more aluminum, because its all-aluminum since 1995. A corvette has been aluminum since 2006. Porsche has no excuse.

If its a super car its not built like one.
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>>28591245
Why does the 911 weigh less and get better laptimes, faggot?
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>>28591245
roflmao brainlet
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>>28591245


Aluminum has literally no fatigue limit. It's like plastic. No matter how strong the alloy is at the start, it's on the clock the moment it leaves the forge and enters service, accumulating microfractures and losing strength until eventual failure. (CFC's are technically like this as well.)
It is most useful in non-load bearing components where its low density and high corrosion resistance make it useful as a bulk material.
In the second war of internationalist aggression, aircraft manufacturers all used aluminum alloys in airframes for several reasons. One being that the runs of high specific strength steel alloys were already earmarked for production of ships, tanks, and other equipment likely to see battle damage. An other being that theoretical long term service life years in the future is not much of a concern if you lose the war, and most warplanes going into the line of fire were going end up shot down at one point or another and replaced by new production anyways, and so they were perfectly willing to trade on that for better performance in the today.
Of course, this had the side-effect of creating a huge technical debt in the form of a massive logistical industrial network that was built for producing craft using aluminum, so the aerospace industry as it existed basically just, like, kept doing that anyways, even if the 'market conditions' that made it make sense at first had changed.
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>>28591245
>A corvette has been aluminum since 2006
Only the C6 Z06 and ZR1 were all-aluminum for the chassis, everything else used steel :)
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>>28591245
The M8 is 1000 pounds heavier than a 911. Cost of ownership is also way more because of depreciation.
>Worse
>Total cost higher
Only brainlets would buy it.
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>>28587975
>inline 6
>wishbone/mutilink on both axles
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>>28591250
M8 is old as fuck btw and has way nicer appointments and more space
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>>28591448
Yeah well they still cost half of a 911
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>>28591448
What was the 996 C2Susing lmao.
How is this an excuse
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>>28591719
>has way nicer appointments and more space
Bitch you're comparing an overpriced grand tourer to a legitimate sports car. Sybau
>>28591725
And had literal trashcan interiors
>>28591561
He keeps making threads about it, too
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>>28591719
Pretty curious how you didn't compare the 'ring time
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>>28591719
My ancient, decade old S almost gets the same time KEKAROO
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>>28591743
Idk what that means
>>28591719

>>28591734
>overpriced grand tourer
You must be speaking about the 992?
The M8 has carbon fiber core chassis construction and more CF than the 992. It also has more aluminum than the 992 and there’s a good chance it costs less.
So how is a 992 not overpriced? It’s steel and McDonald struts vs carbon and aluminum and wishbones and a V8.

>look! the brand new 992 GTS is faster than the end of production M8 from a generation ago, see I got you!
Brother a fully loaded M8 is $140k and to get the GTS with the same appointment is over $200k and you still don’t have the carbon fiber or aluminum or suspension on equal footing.

>why is it faster.
Wow $60k to be maybe faster on one track in Germany but not faster on most tracks when you could have bought a lambo or Ferrari and gotten all the same features in a Higher quality build.

Whats overpriced again? Sorry guys Porsche is just not competing. It’s too expensive and slow and cheap to compete with M or AMG and its to low quality to compete with a McLaren Ferrari or Lambo.

>>28591734
Also, bro, the 996 is awful. You’re delusional.
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What's with these bench racers? The m8 is a boat and no one is tracking that shit. I take my car to autocross and have not seen a single M8. CF and aluminum but still 1000 pounds heavier kek
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>>28591774
>>The M8 has carbon fiber core chassis construction and more CF than the 992. It also has more aluminum than the 992 and there’s a good chance it costs less.
So how is a 992 not overpriced? It’s steel and McDonald struts vs carbon and aluminum and wishbones and a V8.

WHY THE FUCK is it so goddamned pigfat then?
All your technobabble and "muh advanced materiuls" and its vover 4 THOUSAND fucking pounds? And youre here defending this goyslop?

Goddamn the delusion of Bee-Emm-Double Eeeewww's is unreal.
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>>28591774
>You must be speaking about the 992?
The car that's cheaper with a better Burgerking laptime?
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>>28591792
Imagine if it were all steel. 3 tons, easily. Imagine having an M8 poster up on your wall.
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>>28591774
>the brand new 992 GTS
Nigger what

That GTS is from 2021
The M8 is gone 2019
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>>28588231
Intimacy remains elusive
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>>28591798
It’s far bigger than a 992. It has far more comfort features built in. It has a bigger engine and heavier transmission.

That doesn’t really change the fact that a customer is giving money for something with physical tangible material constructed into a thing. If you give BMW $140k for an M8 you bought high end material that is engineered and tested at the Nurburgring.

If you give Porsche $200k for a 911 you bought less material and lower cost and lower quality material for more money.

>>28591802
A 992 GT3 is not cheaper

>>28591803
>>28591792
Plenty of people track them and given Porsche marks up the pads on the 911 so much it hardly costs more despite the weight.

In conclusion a REAL Porsche should have better material than an M car. And yet the 992 GTS does not despite it price that’s ignoring they fact most people have no options on lower trim models. We can sit here and talk about 6 seconds on one track and ignore the rest of the world where they are the same speed but that doesn’t change the reality of Porsche offering an M car build quality at Lamborhini prices.
These McDonald commuters are NARP. Get a real Porsche or get a better car for your money.
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>buy m8 for 140k
>worth 100k in 1 year
>buy 911 for 150k
>worth 155k in 1 year
>B-but it's actually cheaper
lmao. No one wants it because it's shit so bmw stopped making it.
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>>28591894
I'm not reading all this. Turn this into a tiktok with CC over a dancing tranny and I'll goon and respond
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>>28591909
A $150k 911 is an open diff shit box with plastic and steel everywhere and certainly not going up in value and 100% not going to sniff an M8 in lap times
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>>28591918
This is sad man. If it's all those things, why is it conquering on every race track compared to your turk boomer barge?

Raped by Porsche.
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>used 2024 m8
>Everything around 90k
>used 2024 911
>Base 150s
>C2S 170s
>buy c2s for 150k
>TFW it went up
>B-b-but it can't go up in value
Inb4 carfax
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>>28591938
>why is the super spec’d out model that has nothing to do with my base model non sport chrono open diff version conquering ?


Just like civic fags thinking the Prototype type R map times are just like theirs.

NARP incarnate. Really borderline reddit behavior desu. A fundamentally midwit understanding of the topic with an heir of superiority and appeal to authority .
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>>28591952
>super spec'd out
>turboslop 3,400lb 992.1 GTS with less horsepower than a 392 Dodge Charger
>better laptimes
>shittier materials (to your vidya game incel melon who worships carbon fiber)
Raped by Porsche
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Says 911 on the ass
That is all
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stop making fun of the mcdonald narcissist, anons, cluster B personality disorders aren't fun conditions to live with
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>>28587973
i don't care id rather have a 924/8 and just sbf swap it.
I don't care about porsches but those cars are atleast kindof cool.
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>>28592130
Didnt ask
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>>28592122
You'd know, owning two Audis and all that
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>>28592100

Your car is a lower power McDonald open diff, on disc dlc, no sport chrono, wife spec 911. Lap times you see online aren’t applicable to your car which is just like a 330i not having lap time. Nobody cares because it’s not meant for lapping. It’s sad but true.
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>>28592280
Is my car in the thread with us right now? You need a shower, some meds and to put the fries in the bag, SHEESH.
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>>28592303
It’s hard, when you lose an argument and have no choice but to ad hominem.
Sorry, your car is a NARP. I don’t write the rules, I just elucidate them.
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>>28592415
You're just a gay schizophrenic cunt with no friends. I don’t write the rules, I just elucidate them.
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>>28591894
Those are a lot of words trying to hide the shame of loving a PIGFAT (4100 lbs?!?!) depreciation box.
LMAOE!!@
GODDAMMSS the cope in this motherfuckah!!!
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>>28588231
EVERY SINGLE "real Porsche" has a transaxle (transmission + diff in a single casing)
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>>28587973
Designed by Ferdinand himself.
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>>28592501
>ad hominem
Id resort to that to if my dad was making payments on a NARP with under 399 hp
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>>28592615
>ad hominem
You don't understand the meaning of the term. I'm not suggesting you shouldn't be listened to because you're a homosexual schizophrenic, I'm just stating for the record that you are one. Your ass was widened so badly by the board last year that this trauma now shapes your personality. How will you ever recover? Not by owning a 911 sports car like me. Some men settle. Some men cope.
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when the original 911 was first unveiled, 356 purists said that it wasn't a real porsche
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>>28588231
>But wait! A real Porsche:
>has an LSD
i guess the 962 in your pic isn't a real porsche then
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>>28592818
That's bullshit because no one had autism before Pokemon was invented.
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>>28591798
>WHY THE FUCK is it so goddamned pigfat then?
>All your technobabble and "muh advanced materiuls" and its vover 4 THOUSAND fucking pounds? And youre here defending this goyslop?

>why is a luxury GT with double wishbones heavier than a macpherson strut sports car
Fucking hell anon, I don't know? Why is a Rolls Royce Ghost heavier than a GR86?
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The Porsche fanbase is wild. You got a base 911, about 400 hp (feels like 500 thanks to low weight), 0-60 in 4 seconds excels at literally everything and you can even drive 4 people around if you have to. the ultimate all rounder. but porsche fans will still laugh at you and call you broke ass because you didnt buy s, gts, turbo or turbo s. and most of them drive 6th hand mercedes or hellcats
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>>28593040
personally I think you should get a base, gt3 or turbo S
S or GTS means you couldn't afford anything more (targa's exclude)
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>>28593069
>gt3
no gt3 rs, kwabrokeassNIGGA
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>>28593069
>get a base because a more expensive S means you couldn't afford more
Yep it's retarded
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>>28593112
yup, the base 911 is closest to the original one in terms of dynamics meaning none of all that 3-letter crap pastered on afterward like with the S or GTS
with at Turbo S or a GT3 you step to another level entirely, although in seperate directions
>>28593104
the RS is for track use mostly. if you already have a roll royce on the side sure go ahead, if not and you're not kevin estre go with the gt3 which you'll enjoy more on normal roads and you can get with the 6-speed manual
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>>28593161
>S
>3 letters
Why does my best trim ownership make you niggers so furious? Here's what it comes with over the base car, off the top of my head
>larger brake rotors
>front calipers are 6 piston instead of 4
>larger gas tank
>3.8L (400hp) motor instead of 3.4L (350hp)
>E-LSD
>20" rims standard
>20mm lower ride height
Any questions? Actually I don't care if you have any. You're a virginal creep and you give me the ick. Sorry sweaty.
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>>28593167
Nice 10 year old base model Muhammad. How does it feel to get gapped by a 3 series?
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>>28593167
that's so cute, guess you couldn't afford more
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>>28593171
>no you see the base model is actually BASED
>the three letter S? That's the REAL base model
Nigger my FWD gook shitbox would leave your 330i rental for dead
>>28593172
You can afford a key fob from wish.com

What does this prove again?
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The real ones Raped by Porsche were my victims ITT.

Still not doxxed

Still trolling for faggots

The white man marches on
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>>28593177
it proves you're cute with your S
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>>28593193
Does the bank know you're taking pics of their car? Does viagra actually work? What about finasteride?
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>tfw no 4 door 2015 Porsche 911
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>>28593193
If you're dutch, you're not much
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>>28593196
>Does the bank know you're taking pics of their car?
what does the bank has to do with it, just pay up front, only involvement of the bank is the transfer
>Does viagra actually work?
I have no idea, they say you can keep it up for hours but if you satisfy your woman before you come I don't see why can't hold it up before you're both ready
>What about finasteride?
not heard of this, I'll check it when I'm 70
>>28593199
good thing I'm not dutch
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>>28593112
I believe the logic is
Base: you settled for the minimum, maybe you could afford more no body knows
s/gts/turbo: you bought the highest trim possible but couldnt reach top class, so thats lame
Turbo s: respect
I dont agree with the logic but i get it
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>>28593202
>only involvement of the bank is the transfer
So there shouldn't be an issue posting your cunt's title of ownership of this supposed GT3 mon cheri?
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>>28593207
S is just 4 trims up from a base car. Considering what you get for your money, and the comfort of the vehicle, it's the most sensible trim. If you plan to track your car, a GT3 is a no brainer. For everyone else, the S is a no brainer. GTS means it's overly stiff, too low to the ground with shitty alcantara interior unless you option it out.
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>>28593207
no, the logic is, if you like driving the base is all you want. it's got minimal interference and the engine in the back giving you maximum 911 dynamics
you want the extremes of that, go Turbo S or GT3
>>28593208
unless I want to get dox'd, but I'm not in the USA so I guess that specific law doesn't apply to me
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>>28593217
>but I'm not in the USA so I guess that specific law doesn't apply to me
What law? Look I honestly don't care if it's grandpa's car and your baby shoe on the fuckin' roof. You're likely a frog, and you're stuck in MacPherson strut front hell with me.
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>>28593221
"title of ownership", I must assume this is some american thing because what does this even mean in my country. I pay up front, loans are for losers.
when the engine is in the back and you have "MacPherson" struts in the front, you can't ask for more fun than this combination
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>>28593228
There's a 0% chance Europeon countries don't have some sort of title that you own a car outright. Imagine you get a loan on a german shitbox. You pay off the loan. You must be receiving something in the mail (a title of ownership) showing the lienholder releases ownership to you, the guy that paid off the loan. With said title you can now freely transfer ownership to another europoor.

Surely you have a loicense for that squished beetle?
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Inb4 he doesn't get that paying for a car in cash gets you the title as well
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>>28593233
>no way this car is in your name
this is some serious cope, desu I don't buy things if I can't afford at least 10 of them, if I couln't afford it I'd buy some S or something lol
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>>28593248
Some people here really dont understand that car money (even quite nice car money) isnt really "all that" and approach it as some unattainable and mythic grail object.
Obviously it shouldnt be your first or even 20th priority but cars are firmly in the middle class spectrum of shiny objects. Nothing wrong with that but they make THOUSANDS of gt3's just for the US mkt each year, it's not like this is some Delahaye Roadster.
Everyone should enjoy cars that are within their financial comfort zone and strive for a bit more than mediocrity in your personal and professional life.
Also tip your bartender.
>TTS br/o/
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>>28593248
>no way this car is in your name
Where did I say that? If you paid for the car in cash, you have proof with a document of some sort. I post mine on /o/ all the time.
>>28593274
Damn son, not reading, don't care, all you fags have is endless misunderstandings and strawmen and it's pathetic.
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>>28593274
I understand, just defending myself, I got pulled into this.
I just came back from a trip around the mid-west and I tipped everywhere 20% because yeah I am from europe.
all I'll say is then I hope all you guys dreams don't come through because when they are: hell awaits. a gt3+the girl won't come all dreams come together, thats not how it works.
Joy != Happiness
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>>28593284
Happiness is owning some all weather floormats and being able to park your Porsche in the feckin' garage.
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>>28593284
understood. on all counts.
cheers!
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>>28593288
Damn.
Are you and bmw califaggot related or both just have no awareness of aesthetics?
How do you live with yourself not painting the fucking drywall in the garage? Everyday you walk or drive in and yeah sure, you have a 911 but everything else in view is squalor.
That's sad af.
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>>28593291
>How do you live with yourself not painting the fucking drywall in the garage?
Shit's a rental. Why are you so autistic about a completely utilitarian part of someone's house, their garage?
>That's sad af
I'll let my boomer landlord know. I'm moving into a house I bought soon. Care to show us dad's painted garage that you're so proud of?
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>>28593360
>rentoid
>compromise trim car
>fumo collector (ok kinda based actually)
>"yeah guys i'll buy a house soon haha"
ok bro
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>>28593367
I bought a house. I own my dream car. Seethe little loser!
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>>28588231
Race cars aside, only the 992 has front double wishbones, retard.
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>>28593403
Only the gt3
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aircooled
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>>28593291
Why are you trying to reason with the biggest lolcow on this board? He gets raped multiple times a day.
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>>28593563
Damn dude that's so cool. Where's your 911 though?
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>>28593576
Do you enjoy when I rape you, poor son?
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>>28593579
>3,800lbs
WHOA NELLY

That's a BIG BITCH

Is your dad proud to own turboslop?
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>>28592646
Alas, I don’t want a NARP. Also you don’t own a 911 sports car. You have no sport chrono, no sport+, and 330i brakes.
You have a 911 wife spec car. It LOOKS the part but it actually has similar build and ability as a 430i or A5
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>>28593581
You’ve already been raped several times this week. Isn’t that enough, poorson? You and your base model are really embarrassing.
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>>28593585
Weird how it rapes all of that turkshit on every track. Must be the aryan workers that build it.

You're poor, raped, gaped, brown and seething from all the bad touches uncle gave you.

Traumizing that ass just like your family, brown bitch. Best remember that.
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>>28593588
Why are you calling people poor when you own a 10 year old base model? You’re not part of the club, poorson.
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>>28593587
Your saved pics from all over the internet aren't fooling anyone, shitskin. We'll need a hand, timestamp, keyfob, 23andme, iris picture, W2, criminal record, birth certificate, marriage certificate, key to the city and proof you've reproduced before you can ever begin to measure up to me.

THE RAPED won't put out
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i'm saving up for a 911 because i like how it looks and i drove 997 few months ago and it was really nice.
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>>28593590
What the poor brown dog yappin about? Brown son really thought his 10 year old base model would get him respect LMAO. As salamu alaikum Mehmet
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>>28593589
Why is a yappy dog comparing a turbo 4 turkshit beemer to an aryan chariot 911? Settle down Muhammed, don't pull out the AK!
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>>28593593
I'd sooner eat a bullet than want respect from some cocksmoking retard busrider. Raped daily brown son. Best remember that Kerpal.
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>>28593591
Sadly if it's not a Turbo S or GT3 RS it's a base model and you should just buy a 330i off the lot from Enterprise like a coal black nigger coon. Best remember the taste of the rape, niggerboy.
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>>28593598
>lots of seething
who hurt you?
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>>28593601
We don't post while looking into the mirror on /o/


Remember who raped you

Remember the fear
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>>28593598
That’s true. A decade old base model gets raped by a 3 series. You want to hang with the big boys, you drive a Turbo or GT car. It’s really that simple.
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>>28593603
t. sent from mommy's couch while he engine swaps a 330i in Gran Turismo 7

Put the fries in the bag, big boy
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>>28593603
>>28593602
must be miserable being you
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>>28593606
I'd kill myself if I were you
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>>28593604
You need to get your money up before speaking to me, poor son. Try a car from this decade and get back to me.
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>>28593610
Still waiting. See here
>>28593590
You won't, because you can't. This is a nigger free zone.
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>>28593611
>observe my decade old key fob!
Uhh poor son, your car gets raped by a 3 series.
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I can’t think of anything more pathetic than buying a decade old base model just so you can say you own a 911 KEEEEEEEEK
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>>28593615
Was it real in your mind? Is that what your kike masters told you? You're a golem made of clay, controlled by practical kabbalah.
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>>28593617
Being you, a busriding newfag that doesn't know I've been shitting up /o/ with this car since 2023.

Go take a shower, sweaty.
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>>28593619
You should really be working right now, poor son. I can tell you’re not doing well financially.
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>>28593624
I work 3 days a week. KEK do you have a 9-5?

JAJAJAJAJAJA THIS BROKE NIGGER WORKS 5 DAYS A WEEK KEKAROO
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>>28593620
Oh so you only bought the base model shitbox when it was 8 years old.
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>>28593629
Yeah tell me again, riddle me that cope you said earlier.

A BASE MODEL

IS HIGHER TRIM

THAN AN S OR GTS

LOLLLLL THIS NIGGER HIGH AF
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>>28593633
That’s ok little man. Lots of people can’t afford to run with the big dogs.
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>>28593627
Maybe you should work more so you can get something better than a decade old base model LMFAO
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>>28593636
Bro begs mommy for rides and wants to talk about manhood.
>>28593637
Where's the hand and W2? No nigger zone. Best remember that, rape victim.
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Weird how no one else can show their 911 not in a garage or parked in front of grandpa's house. What's up with that?
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>>28593644
What the poor son yappin about now? You get raped by high trim, base model son. Best remember that. As salamu alaikum Achmed.
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>400 hp
WTF LMAO
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So uh, you boys gonna offer that gyatt willingly and show those squished beetles being driven or do you need to sign a form first?
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You gonna clock in poor son?
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>McStruts on the front
>engine in the back
>no LSD
>electric power steering
>no fried egg headlights
>seats 4
>turbo I3
Behold, half a (modern) 911
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>tell retard I work 3 days a week
>I make fun of his 5 day work week ass
*crickets*
YOU ARE HERE
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>>28592820
You might be a retard
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>>28593617
What about a brand new max specced base
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>>28593689
Gonna cry, boy?
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>>28593723
Here’s how it is:
>Wealth: GT/Turbo cars
>Middle class: GTS
>Abject Poverty: Carrera, Carrera S
>Subhuman debt slave: 718
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>>28593248
Thank you for posting a real Porsche.
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>>28593403
Yes that’s correct anon. Only the 992 GT3 has actual suspension better than a 1995 Audi. Hence why a C2 is NARP
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>>28593617
What if it's 5 decades old?
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>>28593579
>3800 lbs
wtf model is they and why is my Audi weigh less
>>28593588
Bruh your car has never been to the track and nobody had tested a non optioned Porsche at the track to get lap times. Sorry, check for the sport chrono and PDCC on the next one. Just get a GT3 next time.
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>>28593603
>>28593598
Unfortunately it’s true. That’s just the Porsche business model. Turbo S is Arab bait though. gt3/2 is the only respectable variant. Otherwise just get a Panamera as its better in every way vs a C2
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>>28593675
This unironically. The people defending the Carrera need to stop hard and think about what they actually want in a car.
Porsche could easily put in Double Bs and make a profit but they’d rather do McDonald’s and make more profit. We’re not even talking about aluminum and carbon fiber here. It’s embarsssijg
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>>28593754
That’s a Turbo car, brown son.
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>>28593723
At the moment you can’t spec out any of them as Porsche is so fucked financially. They limited a lot of mechanical options.

But yes a FULLY spec’d base model (911 T as sometimes it’s labeled) is a pretty good car albeit you could get a Z06 or CSL for the cost and be much better off
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>>28593763

991/2 Turbos are not good. An M3 has more power and better materials and that’s quite sad really. Atleast it’s fast I guess.
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>>28593767
Nice poorfag cope. Convincing stuff.
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>>28593764
I really enjoy the cars, have had several and having the back seats is tremendously helpful if you have kids to take to school or your wife has petite girlfriends that can fit in the back for 30 min rides.
But yeah the price gouging is pretty out of control and that was before the tariff hits and VAG realizing that going 'all in' on EVs was a death sentence.
This is an interesting chart to show just how high Porsche got on marking up their cars. It's good for me but not great if youre looking to get in cheaply.
Although the used market is coming back to reality at least.
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raped by ford
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Made by Porsche in Germany, internal combustion engine behind driver, at least $30,000 of options available in base trim level
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>>28593360
You have zero self-respect if this is your mindset.
I get that you're a rentoid phenotype and why the landed gentry generally detest your ilk but that's just pathetic af. lol
x)
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>>28593854
>You have zero self-respect if this is your mindset
You're the blackest gorilla monkey nigger and you live at home. Speak up, homebody, I can't hear you inside my cavernous 2,500 sq ft home with double paned windows. Title 1 educated niglets like you are the reason why handguns have warnings on the slide.
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>>28593831
Wow. The GT3 is just insane. I’m a Porsche fan generally speaking, but they have to step up. The R8 is coming back and is FAR better value proposition, presuming they price it where it left off.
I kind of think we will see a shift though with Porsche moving up market. Well more up market. At some point the brand heritage won’t make up for their deficiencies vs Lamborghini Ferrari or even corvette and they’ll take start using more aluminum and CF and other stuff to make the value there.
It’s funny becuase Lamborghini, as sort of Instagram fake rich as their current image is actually cannot get away with skimping on materials and the like.
Porsche just gets a free pass bc so many want a taste of a ‘super car’ but Porsche builds the 911 like a 3 series in terms of material and quality and price super high becuase they can. An M3 CSL is just a better car and value though. It’s just that a 3 series which under pins the platform is so common and affordable. Porsche then adds the super car engine with the GT3 and 7 series luxury with the turbo. There’s no reason BMW couldn’t do this except who would take a fully luxury 3 series when the 7 is just better at that job.

Anyway, the Porsche being totally fucked by laws in Germany and Tariffs in the US they are just stuck and the word is the business model is going to be reworked because they can no longer have a German built Macan compete with a US built X3. They’re so over priced before the tariffs, now it’s nuts.
911s are selling and keeping the brand alive, ironically the opposite of the 90s.

Most people don’t realize though that a 911 is not a good value proposition vs a corvette or a Ferrari. It’s just an image and heritage keeping the price up.
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>>28593753
Oh a minter ancient air cooled? No those are poverty spec NARPs on mcdolans and twist beam suspensions. I wouldn't take one for free. The market has spoken.
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>>28593754
>why is my Audi weigh less
Because it's 30 years old, Turkmenistanman? Raped every day, unendingly by Porsche. Never forget it, niggerboy.
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>>28593876
>I wouldn't take one for free. The market has spoken.
So hard headed yet stupid
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>>28593875
I can buy a gt3 and have a notchy manual box with a 9k redline or I can buy a ferrari that's automatic and on its 15th flipper owner. totally different types of driving experience. besides you aren't buying any of these cars anyway. so stfu nerd.
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>>28593874
LMAO! Did I peg this lil faggot correctly or what. You're damned right I did.
Chump is renting some shithole that didnt even bother to finish the garage drywall, cant be arsed to clean up the fucking cobwebs and thinks he's some sort of financial genius.
What a fuckin clown.
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>>28593910
you 100% live with your parents.
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>>28593913
You're a rentoid. A filthy one with zero self-respect at that.
Now go clean up that shithole so you might get some of your deposit back.
LMAO!!!
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>>28593922
larping as some blue blood is pathetic. sort your shit and move out of their basement, loser.
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>6 hours later
>still seething
imagine being this miserable
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Never get the Carrera S.
A simple „stage 1“ ECU remap adds over 100HP comfortably, making it a 500HP NA GODmachine
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>>28593937
on the base Carrera that is, obviously
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>>28587973

>Panamera
>Cayenne
>Taycan

Those are real Porsches. Nothing else is. The 911 doesn't even have a v8.
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>Normal people in real life
Oh is that a Porsche? Cool!
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This nigga tryna flex a ten year old base model in his rented garage LMFAO
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>>28593949
>spending $140k on a 330i tier car to impress normies

Redddit posts here too much now
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>>28593953
Be nice. He spent his whole net worth on that decade old base model shitbox that gets gapped by a 3 series. His humiliation is unending
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>>28593937
>>28593941
>buying turboslop
OOF
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>>28593910
OH NO NO NO

LITTLE HOMEBODY POPPIN' OFF

WHATCHU THINK THIS 6 FIGURE DEBT TO, LIL CHUDDIE?
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>>28593934
Well, how does it feel?
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>>28593957
>YOUR BASE CARRERA S IS 20 YEARS OLD
>ALSO IT COSTS $140,000 BECAUSE UH, REASONS
>EVEN THOUGH IT HAS 150HP MORE AND WEIGHS LESS, WITH A MUCH BETTER GEARBOX IT'S 330i-tier
I know shitskins aren't good at math and have subpar reasoning skills, but this is sad man.

Porsche. Accept no substitutes.
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>>28593982
It’s a decade old base model that gets gapped by a 3 series, poor son.
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>>28593984
It was real in your mind, kike spawn.
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now listen
what part of
MOPAR OR NO CAR
did you not understand?
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>>28593988
Where’s the lie, poor son? You need to get your money up. I feel bad for you.
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>>28593991
>this 330i muslim rapist rental (all he could afford) compares to a 400hp, 3075lb aryan chariot
Go get your head examined, Mehmet.
>>28593989
Ok renter
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>>28593997
ya i rented ur mom
she still down there
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>>28594009
You stuck your baby dick in an urn?
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>>28593997
What the poor son crying about?
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>>28594011
ho be puttin in work ngl
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>>28594017
he let McDonAnon into his head and now he can't stop seething
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>>28594017
What the gaped nigger boy seething over?
>>28594020
Damn shawty got them good good ghost DSL. Them ashes musta tickled the tip of that tiny lil worm youse be packin'
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>>28594026
Gaped? Your base model gets raped by a 3 series, poor son.
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>>28594028
Cuz be sittin' on a mountain of evidence he just don't want the smoke
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>>28594030
You get raped by top trim daily poor son. Best remember that. As salamu alaikum Muhammad.
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>>28594035
Least entertaining bot award
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Responded before him lol
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>>28594030
>switch 2
>low trim Porsche
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>What are the requirements to be a "real Porsche"?

being slower than daddy, for one
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>>28594052
>like a gullible nigger he thinks every picture I post relates to me
Pic related, my gf
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>>28594071
inb4 some spastic retard spams a modified porsche as a part of her humiliation ritual routine
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>>28593982
Are we talking about the C2 in general or your C2? Because the 335i of that era will absolutely gap you and you can get it for $15k.
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>>28594081
Read the thread, illiterate nigger. Turk rapists like you aren't gapping anything but children while the cops look the other way.
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>his sports car isn’t made of all aluminum or lighter material
>his sports car doesn’t have double wishbones
>has sports car doesn’t have 8+ cylinders


Sad state of affairs
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>>28594101
All of these handicaps and the Porsche still rapes. Contemplate the trauma, brown son.
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>>28594103

You cannot defeat my pedigree or my car nor my skills, as you don’t have sport+.
I have bigger brakes bigger tires better traction better cooling more power better handling and more talent. And better looking.
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>>28594107
My aryan ability will carry me to victory
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mophead = me
ghost = porchjeets dead mom
4th panel = porchjeet
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>>28594118
Holy based, fuck that dead bitch
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>>28594090
What the poor son chimpin about now?
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>>28594140
Why the nigger too poor for hooked on fonix?
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>>28594145
Gonna cry poor son?
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So we all agree that a 718 is not a real Porsche
and we all agree a GT3 is a real Porsche

The rest is a gray area
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>>28594164
Do you repeat that all the time because it's what your stepdad would whisper after he nut in your guts?
>>28594171
You'll own none of them
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>>28594183
>you’ll own none of them

Correct, i wouldn’t buy anything but a 993 Targa from Porsche purely because of the sexy styling. Maybe a 971 but they’re also heavy as fuck.
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>>28593982
Very simple people with very small brake discs. Please put GT3 brakes on it at least.
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>>28593937
>450hp with an open diff
Just get a stingray and you’ll be much faster
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>>28594197
Cool pipedream, meanwhile gigachads like me don't care about journalist wankbait cars and own the shit that makes us smile.

>UHHH YOU NEED TO OWN A CARRERA RS OR MEZGER FLAT 6 GT3 RS WITH THE HYDRAULIC STEERING BUILT ON A TUESDAY
Ok boomer
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>>28594201
>brake discs
What the stupid nigger talking about? Those are 13" ROTORS with 6 piston brake calipers

>>28594207
>le open diff maymay
Heaven forbid Tyrone, the raped nigger ape ever read a fucking brochure.
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Can THE RAPED sound off? We need to finish the thread strong.
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If a Porsche isn't a real Porsche what is it then
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>>28594229
A vw, an audi, a FUCKING RENTAL
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>>28594229
A miserable pile of secrets
>>28594232
Yells the manic street preacher, boarding his bus
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You are poor with a ten year old base model that gets gapped by a 3 series althoughbeit
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>>28594288
TRVTHSVPERNOVA
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>>28594207
>open diff
PVT(+) works just fine retard
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>>28592821
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>>28594320
kek the NARP meme is literally the grand daddy of all memes
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>>28594317
Since the 991.1 the Carrera S and above haven't been open diff lawl
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>>28594324
yeah but the S sucks ass.
you get the Carrera or GT3 touring/RS
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>>28594320
AI generated bullshit
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>>28594327
it's page 206 and the book name is in the filename
you can go on anna's archive and download a pdf copy and check for yourself in 5 minutes
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>>28594326
No one cares about your shitass opinion. You're a 911let
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Last post before auto sahgay
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>>28594337
Sounds like someone’s mad that he fell for the turbo meme
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>>28594347
Would that be you? I would never buy a turbocharged 911.
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>>28594356
That’s because you can’t afford one, poor son.
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>>28587973
An 88mm Pak 43/2 L/71 Cannon
An MG34 7.92x57mm Machine Gun
Two Porsche Type 101 15L Air-Cooled V10s
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>>28594684
Weird how you can get a 991.2 for nothing these days then
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>>28594792
You drive a decade old worthless base model that gets gapped by a 3 series, poor son.
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>>28594796
You don't even have a driving license KEKW
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>A BMW 330i with rear-wheel drive (RWD) has a 0-60 mph time of approximately 5.3 to 5.6 seconds


>The 0-60 mph time for the Hyundai Elantra N varies by transmission, with the 8-speed dual-clutch automatic (DCT) reaching 60 mph in as little as 4.8 seconds in testing

>The 0-60 mph time for the 991.1 Porsche 911 Carrera S depends on the transmission, with the PDK (dual-clutch automatic) achieving a faster time, around 3.9 to 4.1 seconds

What's the deal with BMWcels?
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>>28594356
>muh plastic hidden mystery meat engine!!!
Should have got a 350z, show them the hot wheels key LMAO
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>>28594796
>>28595016
Chat

Who's more autistic chat?
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>>28593040
I think most owners will be happy you have one and can enjoy driving one. It's the poors who don't have one that complain about whatever trim you don't have.
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>>28596040
Poorfag cope.
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Who gives a fuck about some faggot on the internet giving your car a made up categorization, when you can have one of the best looking wagons / land barges on the market with 680bhp for next to nothing because of their selective elitism
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>>28596040
Yeah the vidya obsessed little insects with their dream car on their desktop
>>28596137
Found one
>>28596289
I've driven roughly 2 dozen Porsches but have never been in a Panamera. Do you own one?



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