Beautiful economical car
Damn it costs that much just for you assholes to then blind my with your starbursty 6500 kelvin amazon bought high output replacement bulbs?
You crashed your car so fast there literally aren't any parts for it that aren't OEM
>>28589532a camry is a premium car. if you want economical, should've got a corolla.
>>28589532honestly they should go back to the sealed beam mandate
>>28589552europeans don't like that despite being poorfags who would benefit most from it because they're NPCs who need to be opposite of whatever america does.
Headlight assemblies are expensive…and rarely break. Buy used from an idiot who was rear ended ?
>>28589532These aren't the days of incandescent reflectors. LEDs cost nothing but pocket change and you can stack as many of them as you like in any configuration you like. Shame that jewish business practices like this become increasingly common as societies decline.
>>28589558irrelevant continent similar to africa
>>28589532The lights for some Cadillacs cost as much as 5k each. Shit for some models can be retarded, it's how it is.
>>28589550The Corolla is less but thats still horrific for an LE trim Corolla, that whole assy should be like $200 OEM these god damn cars with their feature creep are getting out of control.
>>28589546Show me OEM-style headlights for this pretty popular 15 year old Toyota, I'm waiting. FYI the headlight isn't even that sophisticated, non-serviceable LEDs are only for the low beams.
>>28589832I've been hearing things about how US Toyota buyers get milked but that's pretty fucking bad.That assembly, or some type-certified clone, costs 400-500 € new here. A salvaged but supposedly functioning original part's around 250 € (both including 25% VAT).
>>28589564Yet half the /o/ craves for cars designed and built there.
>>28589560>mounted in front of the car facing forward>made mostly of plastic with specifically good optical properties>contain a lot of small parts, some of them moving>have to be precisely aligned to function properly>rarely break
>>28589532I recommend not crashing into things
>>28589907Shit happens anon, and you shouldn't be assraped over a little fucky wucky you or maybe someone else does
>>28589552>daddy government please regulate me more!
>sealed preassembly>:(>sealed preassembly, 1970:O
>>28589911>>28589918
>>28589940this isnt 1980, retardmodern headlights shouldn't cost more than a few hundred dollars
>>28589950>hundreds of dollarsok cool, now prove that your gay plastic headlight is 100X better than the glass sealed beam (which never yellows or fogs up, btw)
>>28589967>now prove Not him but it's easy. Just measure the light output.
>>28589977ok, you lose
>>28589967>ok cool, now prove that your gay plastic headlight is 100X better than the glass sealed beamEvery projector is better than a seal beamed at light outputYou're some autistic retard stuck in 1980 (and wrong)
>>28589552>europe making cars uglier with lighting regulations bad>us making cars uglier with lighting regulations good
>>28589985you can get projector sealed beams now (since its LE CURRENT YEAR)
>>28589967My headlights are better because I only have to replace only a bulb instead of the whole thing
>>28590002Not only is an entire sealed beam generally cheaper than any headlight bulb, you can buy sealed beams with replaceable bulbs. The housing is still glass and superior to any plastic housing
>>28589977reminder that sealed beams were shit because all the power for them ran up the wiring harness, through the firewall, into the dash, through the headlight switch, back out the dash, through the firewall, then down to the headlightsevery car using sealed beams that has a headlight relay harness sees a significant boost in light output
>>28589980>$89.99>for chinesiumAnd how much are those from a reputable manufacturer like Hella or Osram?
>>28590008luv me sealed beams. pic related is even one of the more overpriced options and it appears to have a plastic lens too; bought my current glass housings for almost half the price and they're available at any of the smaller auto stores.bulb out? replace bulb, keep housing. housing cracked? replace housing, keep bulb
>>28590033>luv me sealed beamsoops. by sealed beams i mean the semi sealed h4 conversion housings
>>28590022Yes, but not entirely. If you put the same bulb in a reflector and in a projector headlight the output will be higher in the projector because it simply wastes less light. Also the beam pattern is usually better with decent cutoff.Sealed beams are reflectors originally, modern sealed beam replacements usually are too, because they are too shallow to fit a proper projector, especially the smaller ones. Look at >>28589980, it uses two tiny round lenses because there's not enough backspace to fit a single bigger one.
>>28590036yeah but for me at least i find the h4 conversion housings perfectly adequate with the new halogen bulbs i get to put in them
>>28590033Its pretty incredible to watch the retards ITT bending over backwards to defend OEMs charging $1000 for ANGERY headlights lmaoIll just keep driving my 80s mobiles and paying $8 every decade for new headlights
>>28590033I put four of these types of things on my Crown Victoria, they are still glass, I put some nice H4 bulbs in them, and I got a wiring harness to make it so that all four low beams come on at once and then all four high beams come on at once, so the headlights went from being horrendous to being fantastic.My old Chevy van takes the exact same four sealed beams and I'm so very tempted to do the same upgrade to it as well but I don't have the money...
Lexus drivers can get FUCKED. I can make an exception for the V8 LX/GX drivers because they take good care of their stuff but every RX I have seen has body damage and/or a light out, driven by a minority.
>>28590071I also added tiny LED off-roading lights in the spots where the car would have originally had cornering lamps, I hooked those into the original wires for the high beams, so I also have a way to see around corners at night with the front of the car being so long. Not really a problem in the van, since you're basically sitting right on top of the headlights.
>>28590071nice. mine has quad headlights but one pair is H4 lo/hi beam, the other is just h1 hi beam only. i bought a relay harness because at the time i was too lazy to make my own, but looking at some of the terminal crimps...it's honestly pretty shoddy work. you can see 2-3 strands in some of them straight up not crimped at all, the workmanship is quite poor.
>>28590071Looks like a nice way to blind oncoming traffic
>>28589532Or.. you know, dont be a total faggot and just replace it with any of the $350 copies on amazon. "But muh OEM!!" >guarantee you all that shit is made in china anyway
>>28589990europeans just add lights which makes the car more expensive. americans make the lights cheaper.the european system is retarded as always.
I get my headlights off ebay. So far I've made 3k from insurance just on headlights from fixing my car lol.
>>28590381based
>>28590078That's how mine was before, that's how the van is too, one set of lights is low and high and the other set of lights only came on for high, but now I have quadruple low and quadruple high (at least on the car).>>28590087I'm pretty sure I have them sufficiently aimed, and I specifically wired the side lights to the high beams so I wouldn't be flashing people with them as I pass them. That was the disadvantage of using off-road LEDs rather than Factory cornering lamps, there's not really any cut off, so if I had my high beams on and you drove past me they would shine at you from the side.That actually reminds me of the truck I once passed on the highway who had the brightest LEDs known to man mounted in his license plate housings, which meant that as I passed him they were shining directly into my eyes, lol>>28590381I also (regretfully) have a modern cuckover with LED projectors and whenever those burn out I'm just going to put the halogen housings from a lower trim model in them because I actually hate the LED headlights, the "high beams" are achieved by just moving some little door out of the way of the headlight, you can hear it clunking if you turn them on and off with the window down, and when the high beams are on all they really do is shine higher directly forward, which is only any help on a completely straight road, whereas with my car and it's high beams I can see a wide expanse ahead of me.They also have a extremely sharp cut off between no light and full brightness, and on every little incline I can just watch that line of light pass up and down over whatever poor unlucky vehicle happens to be in front of me, no wonder I absolutely hate having modern vehicles behind me.
>>28590353But I thought cheaper things are for poorfags and it's europeans who are poorfags
>>28589552Holy FUCK that's ugly
>>28590473hence why europeans are retarded.>>28589558
>>28590508And yet they can afford proper headlights just fine and it's just americans complaining and asking daddy government to mandate poorfag headlights. Truly makes you think.
>>28590048I got that and I can even agree (have reflectors with 9005/9006 in my truck that cost $100, and I'm fine with them), but>projector H4 > reflector H4We weren't arguing about what's adequate for a specific person, the question was what's better and how to prove it (by measuring).
>>28590513clearly they can't, since they junk their cars sooner than americans.
>>28590526So what you're saying they can afford new cars more than americans? So who's the poor one then?
>>28590540>So who's the poor one then?europeans. hence why they hate trucks. which are more expensive on average and last longer than their cars.
>>28589532Congratulations, you have found one of the many reasons insurance is now ungodly expensive (the other main reason is that the roads are steadily becoming more populated with unlicensed, uninsured immigrant drivers, if you don't have uninsured motorist coverage you're a retard).
>>28590554>cries for daddy government to mandate every car has shitty, cheap, ugly headlights that make all cars look the same>claims is not poorYeah, not convincing me there, bucko
>>28590554>>28590567
>>28590567>we europeans like poor engineering because we want to stand out>also you should never own a truck or anything you don't need because you don't need to stand outlol
>>28590581Are the trucks in the room with us right now?
>>28590381>Outing himself as an actual Infiniti driverlollmao even
>>28590057I can justify paying $1000 for non-glare matrix or mechanical high beams, but not for anything less useful.
>>28590621post car
>>28591438This. a Q50 is a nice ass car
>>28591440thanks. appreciate a man of taste.
>>28591438car>>28591440>>28591443Samefagging didn't work in 2005 and it doesn't in 2025
>>28589843
>>28591825cope
>>28591901Wrong, just look at the photo I posted. All of these are serviceable HID or halogen projectors, and I asked about the version with non-serviceable LED low beams specifically, because this thread is essentially about headlights of that type being too expensive.
>>28590087Not my problem
>>28592051Same thing was said by the driver of that lifted Silverado with a light bar and high beams on, as he drove past you
>>28589532Goyota is not based anymore, those times have long passed. Yet another scam brand that breaks quickly.>>28589552I was thinking since the market is so bad it's definitely needs regulation. Manufacturers shouldn't be allowed to change replacement parts so quickly and should be required to continue making replacements for years after a model has ended. They just switch shit around only to make us have to be dependent on them for parts so they can charge whatever they want.At this point the car market is so bad, so harmful to the working class, that if our government were truly benevolent they'd make their own car to offer us. Something basic like a Slate truck/SUV in gas or EV where they're gonna continue making it for decades and always have parts available. Just a basic vehicle for the volk that has plain looks, basic replacement parts, and heavy modifying ability. Subsidized and price kept low so big car corp cunts can't fuck up our bank accounts anymore. They have to be competitive with the plebs who will use drive the basic cheap car.
>>28592593I want to see a modern Citroën 2CV in the sense that its a bare minimum volk car. I wonder what a modern minimal car by American standards would be. I don't know all the requirements. Bare minimum backup camera and crash safety. And body structure etc. Maybe make it a light truck for some pt cruiser loophole?Shit should be under $15k at its base trimIts just ridiculous how fucked things are nowWe need standardization for repairabiliry and cost reasons. Every car manufacturer has gone full retard
>>28592593bro fuck off with this shit. we've demonstrated you can buy cheaper parts and insurance/oem prices are just a fuckin ripoff and your retard answer is to run to daddy.gov ? Oh and then you shill the fuck-tarded Slate shit.Plenty of options for a frugal br/o/ in either used vehicles or parts but instead (((You))) just want big daddy.gov huggin you and makin all the bad men go away.
>>28592602Yeah I hope modern car companies get more regulation. I hope the government gets a stranglehold on them and never let's go.LOOK at what modern cars are. Hell yes the government should step in. Who gives a fuck.
>>28592593>it's definitely needs regulation>>28592629>never let's go>esl>bootlicker
>>28592593Nice try, EV shill.
>>28589552Its funny, because this situation is the exact reason for the original sealed beam mandate : to ensure a safety item was cheap, easily available, with long term brand independent support and direct interchange. Almost like at one time, people thought about the car lasting more than a 5 year lease AND knew that companies if left to their own devices would have bespoke lighting that would end up costing a lot with no alternative.Last I knew Ford was directly responsible for the dissolution of standard sealed beam mandates. Now nothing of course keeps the companies from making sealed, or open housings that are uniform and standardized, but that of course limits design options, and has been widely ignored for consumer vehicles in favor of ever more complex bespoke designs.
>>28590567let's be honest...there's no other country on this earth that i can think of where even a poor neighbourhood will have an old gas guzzler v8 luxobarge as a beater
>>28592602It would be a different story if we actually had a government that was benevolent to the people. Ours is not currently, so I understand why people don't see them as a solution to anything. They ARE the problem most of the time. Yeah no my suggestion wouldn't work with our current gov, they'd turn it into a corrupt shitshow. There are a lot of reliable and frugal imports that they've regulated out of our domestic market because they were paid to do so.What we need is cars that actually last 10-20 years, and yes regulation can make that happen, with laws against planned obsolescence. Too many people's cars go to shit, you get fined and the money is distributed to the buyers as restitution. Same as a class action settlement, only more direct as an enforcement action. Companies would be more wary of putting garbage that doesn't last on the market, that just ends up raping our wallets and filling the landfills.>>28592650I think the Slate is a great concept, you know it's exactly what you want to see other brands implement. They should have a gas option too. My biggest gripe is it's made of plastic actually. The electric concept isn't bad, you just have to accept that you have a big golf cart that can only go 150 miles. Good little concept though, hopefully a competent brand will copy.
>>28592814A neighbourhood has a car? As in, all of the residents have a single car to share? Sounds third world as fuck.
>>28592913See this is how we know you're an inexperienced, ignorant shill. >What we need is cars that actually last 10-20 years, and yes regulation can make that happen, with laws against planned obsolescence.Nigger the average age of cars on the road TODAY in the US of A, is 13 yrs. That's the AVERAGE, and it's only been increasing. This is only a "problem" in your pea-brain and the absolute last group you'd want to attempt a 'fix' to this problem is some fuckin govt bureaucracy filled with faggots that cant even change their own oil. Because those are the only kind that want those jobs.>but muh slate truck! Dude that fucking thing hasnt even been released yet. Stop being a complete cum guzzler for any EV bullshit they stick in your face.TLDR: stfu, plenty of reliable and long-lasting cars on the market today.
>>28593176The slate reminds me of the elio. My highschool physics teacher had a pre-order for that little 100mpg tricycle and I'm pretty sure it still hasn't gone into production. Only semi-related to the thread but I think the one gov regulation I'd actually like to see added would be to cap headlight color at 5000K. Supposedly the human eye detects 4300K the best and the bluer you go the less you see while blinding others more
OP is always a faggot.
>>28593216elio went out of business years ago
>>28593223>$600 for chink headlights that wont even fit>we won proprietary bros! The free market won
>>28593231Yeah... and if you remember when the investor and gov handouts were flowing to them, holy shit did the shills come out to every fuckin forum and auto related site.It was as bad as the chinkshit shills recently.And of course after all that money, free advertising and technical support.... they STILL couldnt release a fuckin 3 wheel economy shitbox to the market.Meanwhile every negro in miami or atlanta is tooling around on a fuckin polaris slingshot with all the RGB and subwoofers blasting in traffic.I fuckin HATE shills.
>>28593249I just assume any vaporware poorfag vehicle will never actually be produced, and so far i havent been wrong.Slate is the current one theyre shilling
>>28593232>complaining about prices for a car that is less than a year old.Youre a special kind of retard.
>>28589532overpriced LED headlights are a free market choice made by a rational consumer so it must be a good thing and anyone who thinks otherwise is a communist
>>28593310This but unironically
>>28593176Completely retarded claims and opinions, there's no arguing with you.
>>28593216>Only semi-related to the thread but I think the one gov regulation I'd actually like to see added would be to cap headlight color at 5000KYou should be asking for high-CRI emitters instead.
>>28592593A shitter can't be regulated into not being a shitter.Before, you have a market with low quality shit you can ignore in favor of high quality shit.Now, you have a market full of low quality shit that can game the system, and you can't ignore it, because they have an *official blessing* for that shit, and nothing else is possible, and you're a science-denying extremist for noticing and implying that the shit is shit regardless of the bureaucracy rubberstamping it.
>>28593701Get thee back to red-dit.
Imagine if computers were built like cars are. So stupid. We need standardization and if car companies hate their own buyers too much then the government has to step in. People need cars to live. Car companies aren't making cars for people anymore
>>28590484it's kino and all zoomers should be shot
>>28589845Most of these nu-Toyotas go to immigrant women and/or their ilk who cannot drive so you'll see 1-2 year old Corollas with at least one busted light front and back.
>>28594952Seethe
>>28594994Is it legal to drive with busted lights around there, or do the police just not deal with it?Most people here get their lights fixed because if they don't work or produce an incorrect light pattern due to damage or modifications (e.g. installing out-of-spec LED bulbs), the police will stop the car on sight, and it will fail inspection like that anyway.Admittedly I did see an absolutely fucked up 1990s style rust bucket sedan without working lights at night some time ago, but I'm pretty sure it was full of gypsies.
>>28589532best i could do without using A.L.
>>28589532>Meet cute camry>She's afraid mormens will slash her throat if she does anything
>>28594952Its not the zoomers hating on it. I'd love for those lights to come back
>>28589552Wouldn't that be fucking nice
>>28589846Nobody wants an African car, idiot.
>>28597845>european
>>28589552Consider this: sealed beam law, except appended with standard 3-inch projectors in the 90s. We get the benefits of standard, certified, upgradable parts for all cars, with a much more modern form-factor that's easier to work with design-wise. The perfect timeline.
>>28589532I paid $50 and an hour's time in total between removal, installation, and adjustment.
>>28591961found an ebay listing for 750 within 2 minutes. Not our fault you opted for the triple projector lamps, you could probably also retro fit the halogen lamps by just nabbing the body harness with the headlight plugs.
>>28599616>found an ebay listing for 750 within 2 minutes.Thanks for proving my point.
>>28599847why would you buy a Lexus and expect to pay Hyundai prices? You buy 'luxury' you pay the luxury tax.
>>28599884>why would you buy a LexusMostly because they didn't sell V6 hybrid Highlanders in Europe.>lexus>luxuryAre you kidding? It's a fucking Toyota, has less luxury than even older Chevrolets made for the US market (which is really funny because US version of the same Lexus is cheaper internally than European/Japanese). And exactly the same LED internal assembly was used in a number of Toyota-branded vehicles starting with the Prius. Go look up prices for their headlights, I can help you with part numbers.
>>28599897>buys a "luxury" Toyota>gets charged luxury prices for basic ass Toyota parts>surprised pikachu faceIt's okay man, it happens to the best of us, at least now you know.
>>28600242It's an anonymous board and you're not a tripfag, there's no need for damage control. I said I can help. >basic ass Toyota partsLet's google those Prius headlights together, shall we?
>>28589552Is there anyway to modify a car to accept these headlights? Like a 2000s car
>>28589532get a job, poorfag
