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You *NEED* more to have fun
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needs to be powering the correct wheels.
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>>28592179
Its running gear but in this.
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>>28592179
Does the roof fold?
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>>28592222
No
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>>28592194
Imagine driving a 4pot „muscle“ car
lmao that’s even 10 times worth than the v6 chally
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>>28592295
the Camaro is not a Muscle car, so... not sure what you're getting at.
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>>28592301
muscle, pony, same shit. it’s associated with a v8 motor. also, it’s got mcdonalds in the front. care to elaborate?
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>>28592310
Camaro rides on a state of the art luxury car platform. it is not comparable to any muscle or pony car. its more comparable to something like an M3.
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>>28592317
there’s no luxury mcdonalds platform
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>>28592349
Cadillac.
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>>28592291
Then I obviously need something it doesn't have.
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>>28592368
Convertables are fucking gay
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>>28592371
>gay
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>(of a person) happy, or (of a place) bright and attractive:
>Her gay, lively personality made her attractive to everyone who knew her.
>happy:
>We had a gay old time down at the dance hall.
Yeah.
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No idea about the US but over here in my yuro hellhole only women drive convertibles. The only exception are super or hypercars
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>>28592179
I bought this little guy last week. It's getting a skid plate and 3 cm lift (along with a major service), and it's going to be my little offroader.
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>>28592892
ludo
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>>28592892
Never underestimate the rally swift!
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>>28592892
is it the awd?
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This question has probably been answered a million times, but I honestly don’t know the answer.
>If you realize driving a cheap but decent car is 0% fun and 100% still just a chore taking you from point A to point B (Uber, a Corolla or riding the bus is on par), will a more expensive sports car actually make any difference or will the fun/chore ratio stay the same?
Let’s say a Swift Sport/Fiesta ST compared to a 911/M3/Corvette.
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>>28593212
I’d say a Fiesta ST or i20N and to a lesser degree Swift Sport are pretty damn fun for daily driving.
For me personally, what made driving feel like a chore after 2 decades of driving was the manual tranny.
Driving with flappy paddles is comfy and fun. Also, the M3 is a glorified commuter. Not very sporty feeling at all
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>>28593212
Having just upgraded from a ~80hp shitbox to a 220hp less shit box, the more powerful car is far more convenient in traffic, but the shitbox was actually more enjoyable to drive.
I will die on this hill, and it's possibly the most unpopular opinion you can have on /o/, but fast cars with boatloads of grip are not actually fun on public roads. On tracks or on a closed-off road, sure, but not when there's traffic around.
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>>28592633
Doubt that. Convertibles require more thought and maintenance, things women are not really known for.
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>>28593212
Start with the reason such drive is a chore.
If it's a straight highway with traffic jams before it and after, you need a comfy car not a sporty one.
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>>28592942
>>28592943
Thanks!
>>28592945
Yes. It's AWD. It's for navigation/endurance rally raids more than serious racing. I'm going to do a one day rally on shitty local roads / tractor paths in a few weeks and a two and a half week rally in Africa early next year.
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>>28592179
Yeah, I need a Suzuki bike.

[spoiler]Would love to have this zuki shitbox though[/spoiler]
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>>28592179
No I don't.
>>28593212
I've seen a few posts from people that changed from V8 Commodores or Falcons to Swift Sports (or other hatches) and them saying that it's far more fun to drive as a daily car because it's not a big barge.You can actually take street corners and shit full send, hammer the throttle full force with good (enough) acceleration without breaking speed limits, and without drinking assloads of fuel
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>>28594459
I need me a 33 Sport. Is your tuned at all?
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>>28594460
Yes, 175hp (142hp at the wheels) 288nm (250nm) at the wheels. Got a bigger intercooler aswell because my stock one got damaged after hitting a wallaby

Better power to weight ratio than an equivalent year WRX now (stock of course) lol. I love that they kept shit simple and just made the car as light as possible, feels very much like older hot hatchs in that way, less fancy tech and just less weight
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>>28592179
i just need 300ps, rwd and a locked differential tüv legal and all of that for 30k
but there is nothing like this on the market
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>>28593212
Get a scat pack with radar adaptive cruise control. (hellcat's didn't get radar adaptive cruise)
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>>28594466
Not bad figures at all for that weight.
I'm looking for a replacement for my old Civic, so I really hope the Swift feels somewhat similar.
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>>28593212
if you can't have fun driving the worst shitbox ever you can't have fun driving
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>>28592179
yes, I need it to be available in america
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>>28592179
I don‘t
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S in suzuki stands for Superman
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I got a zc31s, wonder if I should keep it or try to trade up to a 33s. I do like the aesthetics of the 31s more though.
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>>28592179
I have a Jazz manual its just better. But I can't dislike suzukis.
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>>28594459
>people that changed from V8 Commodores or Falcons to Swift Sports (or other hatches) and them saying that it's far more fun to drive as a daily car because it's not a big barge.You can actually take street corners and shit full send
Skill issue. Spirited driving (not in a straight line) in a big barge is more fun.
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>>28592179
i dont
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>>28592179
Zased
I'd 100% be ordering one of the last ones from factory right now if I wasn't eyeing off an Abarth 124. Never gave af bout my retard friends drooling over 8 cylinders and boring as fuck Aussie muscle cars. So glad the Falcon and Commo are dead lol
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>>28592179
Can’t even get this where I am.
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>>28595369
>gay swift driver taking on a "corner" at 30 mph
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>>28594459
there are people on this very board who went from miatas or 86s to Camaros and found them to be more fun. maybe the commodores and falcons they were driving were just old, but Zeta and Alpha platform cars are some of the most fun you can have.
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>>28597047
>there are people on this very board who went from miatas or 86s to Camaros and found them to be more fun
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>>28594480
Gotta buy (barely) used. Ecostang and Camaro for example
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>Suzuki Swift
>Swift Sport
why is this allowed?
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>>28593272
I had a 2wd 1990 loyale, that thing was fun, I'll hang out on your hill until someone kills you
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>>28597209
i upgraded from an NB to a Challenger
don't regret a single thing, miatas aren't all that.
any double-bone car with near-50-50 weight balance will handle like sex, you don't need to suffer in a tiny plastic roofed tin can for it
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>>28597267
They used to come in Superior White too.
True story.
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>>28592179
Having fun is for npcs.
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>>28597408
Jews fear the "samurai" because only a jap can outjew the kikes.
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>>28598043
>t. jew



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