This one actually has Miata general in the title unlike previous thread, nice.

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I wanna go standalone this winter.
megasquirt vs beermoney vs MS3 vs fishdog
What is the difference between them? no meme answers please
I have a BP4W in an NA6 chassis. I want to remove the CAS, and switch to a hall effect crank sensor. I am also considering coil on plugs. I will be keeping it NA, currently have a square top mani.
Can I do that with plugin play ECUs like MS3?
What else do I need besides a new TPS? What kind of intake will I need to switch to? How long should it be?

>>28612406
OP image is peak automobile

>>28614927
I went with BMM for my NB so I have a slight bit of experience there. Their quick start guide has info on what all extra NA6 needs, and yes it supports COP. When I was shopping for my ECU I was told in no uncertain terms to avoid Megasquirt/MS3 as they cost so much more for very outdated hardware.
https://www.beermoneymotorsports.com/pages/miata-quick-start-guide

>>28615289
its literally a MS3PNP though, even the same options plug.

>>28615403
No? It runs FOME open source software on a RusEFI Proteus board, just with the OEM Miata ECU connectors attached. Megasquirts use their own proprietary boards and software. Just because they're both plug and play with the same ECU and options plug connector block doesn't mean they're the same thing at all, I'm guessing the guy behind BMM simply found the same supplier for the ECU connector block as MS uses, which would have been cheaper than developing their own just to be different.

>>28615455
Your link literally asks for tunerstudio which MS also uses.

>>28615475
A lot of ECUs use it nowadays, especially homebrews.

Me being a MS and Speeduino builder, can only tell you... The MS may not be perfect but especially with the MS3 and onwards, it's miles away from the Speedy and it's derivatives in terms of capacities and reliability.

>>28615475
That's the tuning program, not the software in the ECU itself.

>>28612406
>>28615263
sometimes I think about removing my passenger seat for the storage space and since nobody ever wants to ride in my miata anyway.
but I think more people would try to race me assuming it was for race track weight reduction purposes.

>>28616185
I did for about 3 weeks while doing wiring, no one cares. Did enjoy the massive amount of space though, but you will be surprised how much sound the seat muffles by being present than absent.

>>28616963
Nothing but a thin layer of firewall between the seat and the exhausts kek. I was a bit shocked by that when I was replacing the rear O2 sensor. Cut a hole in one specific part of the carpet and hello exhaust.

I am going to finally plug in my MS3PNP this weekend and see if I can flash to a new firmware. I still don't know shit about tuning

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Welp boys, it's possible over for the year.
Went for a drive, heard a weird noise, went to investigate, bad rear wheel bearing. I can see a light wobble of the wheel. Waiting on a tow truck.
I used the BroFab kit for the rear, I don't know what failed yet. Maybe the axle nut came loose.
Hopefully it's just the wheel bearing, should be an easy fix.

>>28617863
Never mind. It was just a loose lug nut. Thankfully the extended studs did their job.
I run aluminum lugs that ask for 70lb. I retightened them all to 80.

I feel dumb. But hey.

Currently shitting
Very soon I will jack it up, take all the underbody panels off, take out outside to finish cooling, use a salt rinse car soap, blast the fuck out of the under carriage and then leave it to dry overnight.
And tomorrow she gets the full cosmoline treatment after she's good and dry

>>28617956
Why Cosmo? Why not body cavity wax?

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Literally handfuls of soggy leaves out of these two holes, on both sides. Had to fish then out with chopsticks, my hands through the hole the designers kindly put in the wheel well, and pressure wash like mad
>>28617997
I really like cosmo for the exterior surfaces, it holds up incredibly well. You can see a bit of it in this pic, down in the wheel well from when I did a coating of it 4.5 years ago. Daily driven in the rust belt year round.
I'm going to hit every crevice of frame with the Eastwood internal frame coat pro, then every exterior surface with a touch up of Cosmo, I could probably add some cavity wax on top of the IFC for good measure. Maybe I'll do that, any product suggestions?

>>28617917
I have a set of anodized black lugs I was going to use, when I put the very first one on, the anodized wore off on the corners and it looked like shit. Literally only used one and I have 15 brand spanking new ones just sitting in a box. Waste of money for me. Glad they work for you.

Car is clean and mostly dry. Been in the garage with heaters running all night. When it warms up a bit more I'll put it in the driveway to finish drying in the sun
So game plan for today..
Prioritizing the internal frame coating in the frame rails, rockers and quarters, because I'm not sure what kind of state they're in and I want to neutralize anything that's already in there. If I have extra it's going in the subframes
Cosmo on all of the exterior surfaces, let it tack up for a few hours and do a second coat of cosmo

I also ordered 6 cans of surface shield and a 3m fogging wand to go through and hit every cavity again later this week. Probably good to have something that doesn't dry, and has good creep to get into every crevice. And I won't have to obsessively clean to apply surface shield like the cosmoline requires, so no big deal if it gets a little bit more dirty in the rails from dding

>>28618897
Make sure you post pics, I am interested in the progress

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>>28615289
>>28615403
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>>28615543
so what is the consensus? I have no experience tuning shit.
A local shop said they will tune for $1500
On the Miata forums some guy offered remote/online tuning for $800
I do have an old laptop if that matters.
I want to get a basic tune and limp the car over to the shop. I have no idea how a remote tune even works.
Thanks

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>>28618951
Absolutely pumped these holes fill of it, got all the way up behind the arch. Put it on heavy for best chance of sleeping into cracks. Also took the door sill trim out and shot it into the 4 holes on each rocker. Taped 3 up, spray one, move a piece of tape to the one I just sprayed etc. keep it from blowing out at me.
Little beer break then I'm going under the car and hitting rails. Ended up using about 1 can per rocker and quarter. Probably overkill

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Job done. Awkward hitting the wheel well with cosmoline, got some real bad runs but it'll dry eventually. Still some internal frame coating dripping out of the rockers. Wiping it periodically as it dries. I'll poke the holes out if they need it when it's dried tomorrow

>>28619098
Fab9 does tuning by the hour. Just send them your logs

>>28617917
>aluminum nut

There's no way that's a real thing, who would even make something like that? Aluminum is basically cheese, you can make it work for some things, but a nut is not one of them; it's just going to creep loose.

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>>28618348
>anodized black lugs
Use a black permanent marker for touch-ups.

Got my megasquirt updated to 1.6.1, now just gotta make a new intake and ditch that MAF and then figure out how the fuck to tune it.

>>28603945 replying to this.

I played with the alternator belt, it didnt make a difference.
my belts make a horrible squeaking only when starting on cold, it goes away after like 4 seconds and doesn't ever come back. the krikit gauge is $30 on amazon, it used to be $11. im not paying that tariff price.
new water pump, new alternator, new ps, ac compressor works.
as i mentioned earlier, the 1.8 alt mount bracket that i upgraded is very flimsy. maybe something isnt aligned? but then it would be making the noise the entire time.
everything else seems to be good, when i had the belts off every pump and pulley spun fine.

i'll have to dig in deeper and remove the intake and pull the belts and look things over again.
what could this be?

>>28620537
If the squeak is worth less to you than $19 then I guess you are fine with living with it.

>>28620537
>wants help fixing problem
>offered solution
>its too expensive
>$30

get a job

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Bros, how do i deal with these limestone stains on the car? I tried some car cleaning product yet they still remain. At home i have vinegar based cleaner made for kitchen use but i dont want to try it in case its too harsh for the clear coat and paint.

pic related is not my car but it does look similar

>>28620704
vinegar will remove it but also takes off the wax. they have water spot remover though.

>>28620704
Clay bar it then compound and wax in that order

>>28620755
>>28620780
thanks

24 hrs since I finished the internal frame coat, still dripping out of one rocker drain hole. I know I definitely got full coverage ha. Been playing the poke all the drain holes with a zip tie every few hours game. I drew on the rocker seam with a sharpie so I know exactly where the drains are and can make quick work of it. Also it dropped out of the rockers in places where there aren't even drain holes so there were definitely spots water could get into that weren't intended. Unless I missed something there are 5 true drain holes on each rocker. In front of and behind each jack point and one in the middle

What mpgs are you all getting in your Miata?
I got an NA8, and I'm topping out at 21mpg.
Now I go into 5th gear as much as I use reverse, and I drive quite spiritually. It also smells rich

>>28621107
32-34ish average in my ND
Low as 24 when I'm agro

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I have a confession to make, I bought a miata so I could pretend to drive an old british roadster around. The flared arches on the ND really make me think there's round headlights at the front. But now that I'm comfortable with it, I feel like it's not doing it for me anymore. How terrible of an idea would it be to sell my safe, comfortable, powerful little go-kart for a 50 year old scrap heap with a hamster wheel for an engine?

I think when I looked into this last time you couldn't even get insurance for such a thing outside of hagerty that lets you drive it once a month when the stars align, jupiter is at it's highest point in the sky and the sun casts it's shadow between noon and 3 o clock.

>>28621107
29mpg in my 2002. I tried to get 30 and can but that's without giving it really any gas for the entire tank. That's with 93e0 though, I get around 25 on regular 93.

>>28621294
Insurance is full coverage for hageity. Anyone will give you liability insurance.

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>>28621294
Drove an MGB for a few months. I loved the ambience of the 60's cockpit, but hated the agricultural engine and gearbox. If I wanted a small sports car of that era, I'd choose an Alfa Romeo twin cam.

>>28621493
Wow, I'm surprised how much higher the mgb is compared to a miata. I didn't think those old cars were that big.

Well that puts a damper on things, it's going to feel slow just from the seating position. But damn does that car look good.

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>>28621541
>didn't think those old cars were that big
MGB didn't feel much different in size to my NA, maybe a bit narrower

>>28621585
Now the miata looks bigger, something weird is going on with the FOV of your phone cam. That's a relief though that they're the same size.

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It got more
chapters

All my drain holes pass the zip tie test, and it's finally stopped smelling like a Chinese factory with all the fumes the IFC put off while curing. Surface shield coming in a few days and I'll hit the rest of the chassis with that. Lord willing my Miata survives 1000 winters

I found an empty parking lot tonight and drifted for the first time. there were a lot of skid marks so I'm wondering if it's a well known spot or something.
it was pretty cool but I should probably buy another set of wheels and tires if I want do this regularly.
>>28623238
this looks fun. I'm going to read this before bed tonight

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My car real does smell like a Chinese sweatshop right now. At the dealer to get my AC diagnosed, just in time for winter. Sorry dealer tech bro I left the windows down for you

>>28624061
AC update
so basically my car isnt affected by the tsb for the hi pipe: https://www.miata.net/garage/tsb/MC-10188019-0001.pdf but the most up to date pipe is still the culprit, it cracked on me.
the tsb states:
>This is caused by a crack in the cooler pipe (HI) A (1) due to engine vibration
dealer quoted 900 for a replace and recharge.
i can get the pipe and o-ring for 107 but if engine vibration is the cause, and i already had the thickest pipe which and it cracked, it will happen again.
seems like the best option is to upgrade the engine mounts.
fab9 sells https://fab9tuning.com/performance-engine-mounts-nd-16-mx-5/
getting the pipe, o-ring, mounts, and doing the work myself will still be cheaper than the dealer job and theoretically prevent engine vibration from cracking the pipe in the future. the tradeoff with all upgrade engine mounts is more felt vibration, but i dont want to have the pipe crack again in 5 years.
I havent seen much on the forum about more recent cars cracking lines, i wonder if they just baby their cars

Well after a nice drive last night, I think I will go full NA build and not turbo. Something about winding through the rev range in the mountains I like more than what a turbo would make me hear. Also, I don't think I would have as much fun with a turbo since it will be much faster and I can't enjoy the speed gaining as much. Sounds weird but it's kinda like riding a 1000rr superbike but preferring to ride a 450 instead.

>>28624661
The road is way more important than the car. I wish I had a road like this and yeah, I wish I could hear that sound coming out of my miata.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xR2rjh-D6LM

which one of you fags has a ms+ tune file for a 1.8 vvt swapped na6 with a flattop intake
please and thank you

>>28624699
Yeah it is nice to have, although the road to my work is straight highway so it's incredibly boring.

I finally have a racing beat header and it's ceramic coated, and I can't think of trying to sell and ship it. Here is a video I made years back when I got the racingbeat twin tip exhaust. They haven't made it in like 10 years.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aUMjplcT8

>>28624810
No one, get a base tune from diyauto then pay fab9 for an hour of tuning. It's like $200.

>>28624882
I've been meaning to do that or use this guy /stevesremotetuning

I finished the swap but I'm stuck in some stupid paralysis where I just think somethings going to break on my first actual drive on the road.
fml.

>>28624899
My plan is to get tunerstudio to auto tune as best as it can then upload maps on miataturbo and ask for help. I don't want it handed to me and I want to learn but too much going on with work and school for me to really dedicate the time I need for it

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Has anyone cleaned the wiper stalk contacts on a NB? I was thinking of buying a new stalk unit off eBay and cleaning it to swap into my car, but it turns out that the wiper stalk is part of the entire assembly that also includes the turn signals. Currently I don't have variable wipers and now the low wiper setting will stop exactly where I pull the stalk back up, even in the middle of the windshield. Sucks having to time the wipers because of a little morning dew.

Picture obviously related.

Would I be fucking myself in terms of scca autocross class if I got a mazdaspeed miata? Finally planning to buy a weekend car this spring now that I have a garage, and was thinking mazdaspeed miata, 2zz mr2, or maybe s2k if I can find a decent one for the price. But a bit worried if I buy a speed miata it'll end up super uncompetitive for its class if I ever want to autocross.

>>28625209
No but have fun shifting the 6 speed or banging the limiter more often than you like. The 5 speed is barely adequate for autox unless it is a tighter course. You could put in 3.63s and have a very slightly longer 5 speed with OD though.

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>one of the most beautiful places on earth (central Italy)
>low population density
>hills and woods
>fun twisties with no other cars on the road at all
>graced with great weather
I'm in heaven.

>>28625749
Nice to see you out, enjoying the 124 and soaking up that Italian sunshine.

>>28625771
Thanks anon. I feel any /mg/ that can reasonably reach central Italy without too much hassle should make this very same trip that I planned: it involves two or three trips a day from beautiful town to beautiful town through insanely picturesque scenery and forests, with half a day of visiting each day (there's history going back 2500 years). I can share it if anyone's interested.

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having some fun today

>>28626500
Tune mine next

But seriously how do you learn and how do you know you are on the right track? Well minus the knocking

>>28614927
Hey anon, I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but you seem a little lost in the weeds. What are you hoping to accomplish by going standalone?
Mega squirt is a tried and true path. I don't know much about the other two options, but you should check with local Miata groups on the various Miata specific forums or FB groups in your area. They'll be able to point you to a good tuner that will specialize in one or more of the standalone ECUs.
You can also find base tunes online that will get you limping along with little to no tuning.

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Have you taken the fumoto pill?

>>28626887
I have one on my Subaru that has a steel oil pan, not risking whacking it on something on my Miata that is both lower and has an aluminum oil pan that requires pulling the engine to remove

>>28626887
No. I'm not a lazy nigger. I like my magnetic tips too.
Why is your oil black?

>>28626887
I wouldn't use that tap thing, but that's a cool oil filter location. Beats my NA for convenience. What model of Mx-5 is that?

>>28627036
NTA but that's an ND

>>28626997
Because it's holding combustion byproducts in suspension, have you never changed your oil before?

>>28626887
never heard of this before and now I'm considering one. are there any downsides?

>>28626500
>mint
nerd

yesterday i went outside on my break to sit and look at my car and someone else in a Miata pulled into our parking lot, drove around my car, then left.
my car wasn't visible from the street or anything so I wonder how they knew where it was

>>28627221
yes

>>28627219
Oil drains a bit slower (garage beer time) and there's going to be a tiny bit more oil left in in the pan after draining than if you just used a bolt because it's like if you had a bolt drilled through in the center so you have that small bit of added height to reach the drain. I don't think that's an issue because whatever little bit is left is getting diluted by the new oil and any crap gets picked up in the filter. Car calls for 4.5qts with filter, I was just shy of the max dipstick after about 4.3 so it's not much.

The main risk if it would be the lowest part of your oil pan (the drain sticks straight down instead of out the side etc) and you don't have a tray that covers it like on the nd, could risk breaking your pan if you hit something

i just stick a 5gal bucket under the car and let it drain into that, but if you have to put them back in jugs for disposal you can hook a tube up, drain straight into the bottle, cut the stream when it's full, cap it off and move to the next bottle. There's no mess. Also if you were to do an oil analysis, same idea. You can get a mid drain sample without getting oil all over the place

Bought a tunerstudio license today, this shall be fun. Hope the learning curve isn't too rough.

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>>28626887 #
Stahlbus drain valve for me, buddy, all that convenience without any of the mess.

>>28620537
issue resolved. the bottom alternator bolt vibrated its way out. threads got stretched, so i'll need to replace it.

>>28627090
i never change oil that fucking late. mine is golden with light shades of brown.
>>28628061
another useless trash.
is it really that hard to remove a drain bolt?

>>28628162
Uh that's normal though.. oil looks dark brown/black after like 1000 miles. That's a 2.5k mile oil change. Dark oil isn't bad oil. Oil detergents literally clean the engine, pick up carbon and other shit, keeping them in suspension and not caked on engine components
Do you change your oil every 500 miles or something?

>>28628162
bro, oil goes black really fucking quick. I changed my shit at 1k miles and it would be black. i dont even know why youre dying on this hill or if you're trolling

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>>28628186
>>28628176
nah, you have bad piston rings or something else is wrong.
i changed my moms lexus oil at their recommended 10k intervolve, it was dark brown. not black.
i sent it out for testing, and everything came out good.
i change my oil every 2-3k miles, it comes out golden brown. my valves are still shinny with zero varnish at 180k.

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>>28628202
Bad rings with 32k on the odometer and oil changes every 2.5-3k, I don't think so lol
>i change my oil every 2-3k miles, it comes out golden brown.
Did you delete your egr system or what? I'm gonna need to see a pic of your oil as it's draining because I don't believe your oil comes out like pic rel with 3k miles on it

>>28628489
i also don't believe him, because oil naturally darkens from oxidation, even if the car isn't run.

>>28628491
ND also has """internal EGR""" cam phasing that means at cruising load the combustion chambers are 10-20% exhaust gases for emissions and fuel efficiency, which would make it darker faster. But again that's stuff that's suspended in oil and not caked on the internals. Dark oil doesn't mean bad oil. Early 2000s boomer car forum "I only use amsoil cuz it's the best, no I will not elaborate, it just is" type shit

>>28628489
Reminded me of this old song, lol.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6meCXQ6UKb0

When did the shift happen from people generally not caring or making fun of you, to absolutely adoring the NA miata?
I had one back in 2015 and nobody would care except for jap car guys.
Got one again in April this year and overpaid like crazy of course. Thing is, I can't even remember all the props and compliments I've gotten so far in just a couple of months. And it's not just other car guys, normies too. I've had like 3 coworkers I never even talk to compliment me on the car, people at gas stations or at the golf course parking lot chatting me up to talk about it. People fucking love NA miatas now.
Your milage may vary with an NB and beyond.

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>>28628852
Covee lockdowns made a difference. People stuck in the house realized what motoring fun the Miata is. That's when the prices shot up. Also, eventually the gaslighting doesn't work anymore, as people work out that the old meme doesn't match reality.

I still find 3500$ NAs but I can't shake the feeling they are all basket cases

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This one goes out to outer banks ferry anon: I hope your boat is treating you well. Great time to catch a ferry and crooze around an island

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what is best thread length for magnetic tip drain plug for nb1?
11mm thread length or 15mm thread length?
pic is of the 15mm one

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here is 11mm

>>28629402
FlyinMiata has magnetic oil drain plugs, I counted 8 threads on theirs so I would assume this one and not the 11mm one.

>>28629402
I use this one
https://a.co/d/cUsineR

>>28629474
Are you getting commission on that? Why is it twice as much as the FM one??

>>28629582
I wish, I just bought it because I needed one fast and it had free overnight shipping. It's CNC machined in the USA by a small company and the FM one appears to be any other off the shelf made in China one. It also already has the hole for a safety wire, which is nice. Overkill 9000, sure, but I'm not exactly crying over an extra $12 to get something well made from somewhere more local.

Bros, I want a Miata and I could afford one but I live in rural Ontario and it feels retarded to buy one here with our winters. The low ground clearance is one thing, but the soft top in the snow? I think I would need a winter beater and I don't really have money and space to maintain two cars.

>>28629600
Don't wipe off the snow and pretend it's a hard top. Good insulator too.

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>>28629600
NC PRHT or ND RF

I'm in the market for a sports car now that I sold my Gr86 and am in a good spot for a weekend two seater that I don't mind wrenching on.

Ive got the itch for a Miata that I can put a Flyin' Miata turbo kit on. Which generation should I get?

>>28629474
thanks, i bought from them before. they are a local Wisconsin business.
>>28629582
FM is rebranded chink garbage

>>28629738
Speaking of fm rebrand shit, who makes their wheels? Konig?

>>28629738
Literally Made in USA. Don't be mad if your poor.

>>28629591
>something well made from somewhere more local
Good man. Support your local trades people.

>>28630076
>Printed FM in the USA on a Chinese part
>made in the usa

>sudden loss of oil pressure
>engine now loud as fuck, louder/faster with RPMs
>I was able to make it home though
I know I'm fucked, but how badly am I fucked? Gonna put oil in it tomorrow when stores are open and see where it leaks.

>>28630375
Should have gotten a tow, rip ur rod bearings

>>28630375
>No oil pressure
>Keep driving
You went full retard

>>28630387
I am aware. I was about 1 mile from home and wasn't really thinking.
>>28630384
Hopefully "just" that. I got this car for nearly nothing to learn wrenching on (bodywork is dogshit) so if engine is dead I guess that's a learning experience lol.

>>28630375
>>28630394
So found out what it is. Seal around the oilpan decided to suddenly go and chuck all of the engine juice on the road. I was able to locate a big oily streak on the road where it happened in the daylight. No idea why that happened, but the previous owner used that liquid seal crap to put it on, figuring that must have failed.

No sparklies in the oil though nor any signs of serious damage with the pan off, so a mile or so of abuse didn't kill it. Got a new seal set coming in the mail.

>>28626500
DANGER TO MANIFOLD

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>>28629638
personally i'm going for an 09-15 NC PRHT. forged internals and lower compression means it can handle boost i you want to go that route in the future. still get the hard top convertible but when it's down you still get the true convertible experience. more room in the cabin doesn't hurt and it still has a double din head unit so you can drop in something aftermarket to keep it up to date. the 16-23 ND head unit is a piece of shit and can't really be replaced. i also like that the NC isn't spying on you and potentially selling your driving information to insurance companies.

>>28630870
brah, your shit is fucked
I highly recommend you send out whatever oil you have left with a detailed description of what happened to https://www.blackstone-labs.com/
they will tell you if there are any metals in the oil.
before that, I wouldnt waste any money on the engine.

I had an oil plug come loose while I was going 50, saw the low engine oil warning come on, i immediately killed the engine, and coasted over. Thankfully there was a Vatozone within walking distance, I picked up the cheapest oil they had, and a new drain plug. I babied the car home, and did a proper oil change the next day. I sent that oil out for analysis. Week later I got results back, no metal contamination. I did the right thing by immediately turning off the engine.
you drove home for a mile with no oil pressure.

>>28630920
Not bad idea for analysis ye. If its fucked, its fucked.

>>28630936
Oh it's fucked dog, dw
I second the Blackstone test, I just want to know how much you fucked it. Rod bearings absolutely fucked (you heard knocking so they are already deformed), piston rings probably fucked, crank journals probably fucked, cylinder walls maybe fucked.

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I waxed my '93 for the first time and it looks literally identical. Maybe because its silver and was already pretty spotless?

Either way, not sure if I can be bothered to do this again - how often do you guys wax your Miatas?

>>28630998
Once a year or so

>>28630375
come get my BP4W that needs head work and you can have it

>>28630247
That's not how it works, at minimum the last manufacturing step has to be done in the USA.

>>28630998
Once a month or two depending on the weather. Once a month in summer and spring, late fall and winter I let the ceramic coat do the protecting

I have a lead on a cheap flat top intake I may use to hold me over until I ITB it. Found a ITB manifold, and some ITBs from Aussieland. Shits gonna be like $1500

>>28631102
I have a flat I paid $125 shipped from bongoland.
You loose a lot of power on the low end.
I wouldn't run it without a tune.
Obviously you'll need a tune for ITBs.
I was also recommended to not run ITBs.

I've decided what I'm doing with my car next year
Bbr cams and springs
Roadster sport header and mid pipe
Versatune with fab9 remote tuning
Should be an easy 220hp
Maybe m cal fuel pump and injectors too

>>28631165
Maybe on a US motor, I have a flat top on the same JDM high compression bottom end it came with and its low end is better than my BP4W's was.

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Holiday's over. At the very last the satnav sent me on a very unpaved very steep very wild road, up and down a mountain through a forest; it was stressful, but man I had a blast and the scenery was really something else.
I love my 124, she's my one and only.

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>>28629638
>PRHT
every time I see this my braid translates it as FART

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>>28630888
>personally i'm going for an 09-15 NC PRHT. forged internals and lower compression means it can handle boost i you want to go that route in the future. still get the hard top convertible but when it's down you still get the true convertible experience. more room in the cabin doesn't hurt and it still has a double din head unit so you can drop in something aftermarket to keep it up to date. the 16-23 ND head unit is a piece of shit and can't really be replaced. i also like that the NC isn't spying on you and potentially selling your driving information to insurance companies.
Agree with everything you say. 09-15 PHRT would be my choice if I didn't have my NA.

Has anyone here installed an oil cooler, oil temp, and oil pressure sensor on their nd?

>>28632625
Steve anyone here that is even owns an ND?

>>28632945
They are 10 years old I am sure there are a few. One poster above has a fiata

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i love me an NA Miata

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>>28632945

my NB surges at idle when its first cold started.
I checked for vacuum leaks with starter fluid, didnt find any.

What else should I look for?

>>28633455
Fuck I love those rims, i have the gay new ones that look like ricer shit and are impossible to clean properly.

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I've had a stock ND2 for half a year now. I like it but I was thinking about how to slightly reduce body roll. Would new springs be enough or are the shocks going to need swapping as well? Not looking for a major overhaul, just something to make my daily a bit more refined.

>>28634404
I put cusco swaybars on mine, still running the stock bilsteins
Cleaned up the roll quite a bit

>>28634404
Always sways first with the ND.

Finally ordered a flat top manifold for the NB. Now just gotta wait for it to come in. I found the part numbers for all the gaskets I need, gonna clean it really good and paint it a somewhat OEM silver or whatever color I have at the house that looks like the stock manifold color.

Tom Matano has died.

>>28634937
Rip

>>28634286
Don't use starter fluid numbnuts that's how you start a fire. Use soapy water or Windex next time. Make a thread or search on m.net

>>28634937
RIP

>>28634937
I'll do a burn out for Tom

>>28635422
Based, I'll do one at some point this week

>>28635183
What would soapy water do?
I have like 3 vacuum lines and half of them you can't see the other end.

>>28635183
I've always used carb cleaner since it evaporates fast

Miata-san died :(

>>28636537
Hate it

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www facebook com/share/19tmU8zxAP/

Someone actually took the time to get rid of the ridiculous headlight gap from the bumper to the bonnet/hood. Doesn't quite line up, but points for effort. I also don't mind the alcantara interior.

>>28636357
It makes a film across the leak giving an audible difference when the leak gets sealed. And its not flammable.

>>28636623
Why does my NB have a gap between the bumper and hood if it's never been wrecked? It's consistent across all the NBs I've seen

>>28632945
>>28633205
I own an ND3 but I probably won't mod it anytime soon due to financial reasons. That will probably change by the time its paid off in a couple years.

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>>28636623
You see a few Pitcrew builders rounding the hood corners. I would rather reinstate the pop-ups, with some driving lights in there.

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>>28638198
Nah, that looks like a miata wearing a skin suit. Creepy as fuck.

>>28638263
it's a Miata with a really wide nose

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>>28632945
>>28634404
I have same problem. In rear going to use fiat or abarth rear bar, but idk about front.
don't get too stiff, so I could drive properly in snow.

how long does it normally take for an ECU to get cracked for tuning purposes?

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Replaced the master and slave cylinders today, as well as replaced the odd clutch line mess with a HEL braided line that goes straight from the master to the slave. Got to admit, not best part impressed with the braided line. The quality of the part is fine, but to me it seems as thought the line is backwards, and it seems a few inches too long, causing it to rub up against the other pipes nearby. It has to go this direction ass it has a plastic nut that the factory spring clips locate, but I feel as though the kinked hard line should be on the slave side, not the master. Very odd. Partly wishing I just left the factory lines in place.

>>28637624
Get a guardian design steering wheel and the verus throttle peddle spacer at least

>>28639130
these are things i didn't know i wanted
i might get the throttle pedal spacer but that steering wheel is a bit expensive at the moment

>>28639252
The pedal spacer is absolutely worth it, improves the toe heeling so much. It's exactly where I wish it was from factory. It's a pretty affordable mod so swing it if you can.
The guardian design is pretty pricey, I think mine ran me about 1000. I got the corsa 330 drift (no thumb bumps, just a smooth circular wheel) with perforated leather at 3 and 9, and a noon marker. It's a massive difference in driving experience though desu. I found the OEM wheel to be too thin, large, and awkward.. Very out of place compared to the tight notchy shifter. I optioned the extra thick option from GD but they contacted me recommended I get their standard size which is still considerably thicker than factory and it was the correct move. Also getting to retain the airbag and factory controls is huge, I cant understand how people drive cars with no airbag or hans and helmet on the street

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Detailed it in honor of Matano-san

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>>28639308

>>28639308
>>28639309
I always liked the tan top. Vinyl or cloth?

>>28639315
Robbins cloth, defroster glass, no zipper. Highly recommend, worth every penny. If you live in a sunnier climate, it stays orders of magnitude cooler than the black vinyl tops do.

>>28639316
Nice. I have the same but in black. I hope my rear window doesn't fall out this time again, other than that the top was great

>>28639315
Was vinyl offered in any colour other than black?
My NB2 of the same paint colour has a tatty black vinyl. It doesn't leak but I hope to replace it eventually. I have a hardtop for the time being.

>>28640301
My original NB tan top was vinyl. I don't think canvas/cloth tops were a factory option until 2003, so the original 10AE blue top was also vinyl.

Mastercoat just restocked today, if anyone is trying to make their rusty shitbox less shit

Need to find a MS3 tuner for my miats

need someone to crack the ND3 ECU for my miats

I switched to Shell v power nitro+ and I'm not going back. I have to go out of my way to find out but I feel like my injectors are happier already

those of you who don't daily your miatas, what is your daily?

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>>28641755
'64 Vanden Plas 4 Litre R. Suspension has developed a knocking noise at the minute, though, so the miata has become the daily while I source new drag links and rebuild the shock absorbers.

the decibels of the racingbeat sport/race exhaust aren't much higher than the stock exhaust but after watching some videos i'm a little worried that my neighbors will hate me if i buy it
it sounds really good though

>>28641983
Don't take measurements from a new exhaust, RBs are known to need breaking in. Mine took almost 6 months before it finally settled. They do get louder.

>>28619098
lol paying someone for a tune that sucks when you can just run braineacks spark table, auto tune the ve table and then spend the next 6 months getting the rest of the daily driving annoyances ironed out

>>28641935
fack I wish had that V8.

>>28642037
Autotune is very helpful but it is only about 70% there

>>28642203
Just give chat gpt the logs and have it do it

>>28642095
Luv me V8 rumblies.

https://litter.catbox.moe/divi63.webm

>>28642535
damn that is cool. i know it has a much bigger displacement but some guy near me has a C5 Corvette (MOT history implies it spent some time in NI kek) and just hearing the rumble when it's at a mere crawl is great.
what do the blue and red lights indicate?

>>28642203
if you have a decent afr table, run autotune, and then smooth out the 3d ve plot manually then youve literally done exactly what a tuner is going to do lol
the biggest benefit a tuner is going to give you is setting up all of the annoyances like closed loop idle so that it catches itself properly and when you are going from slipping the clutch to idle that it doesnt want to stall out, and setting up accel enrichment, ego control, start up settings, all stuff that you can figure out without causing any harm to your engine as you drive the car. there is absolutely no reason at all to pay someone to tune your street car

>>28642571
>damn that is cool
Thanks. If you can get your hands on a pushrod V8 car, I'd 100% recommend it. The MG is barely faster than my Miata, but just the sound alone makes it worthwhile.

>some guy near me has a C5 Corvette
Based, those things are great. Surprisingly cheap for what they are, too.

>what do the blue and red lights indicate?
The blue light is your high beam indicator, and the red light is your electrical charge indicator.

>>28642621
Brother I have the base tune you download from efihardware. Not sure I can auto tune from that. I can't and don't want to be bothered trying to learn all of this. I come from carburetors and can't be added to learn fuel injection. I would love to but I don't think I have the time or willpower to sit through a bunch of YouTube and stalling the car out. My laptop is literally a dual core POS from 8 years ago

>>28642002
I was going off of racing beat's own measurements. I assume they measured it after break-in.
https://www.racingbeat.com/Miata-MX5-2006-Present/MX5-Exhaust/56476.html

>Static - No Load Test
>Stock Muffler: 81 db (3000 RPM - static), 92 db (5000 RPM - Static)
>Racing Beat Sport/Race: 83 db (3000 RPM - static), 93 db (5000 RPM - Static)

>On road - Stock Muffler:
>1st-3rd gear city driving (0-40 MPH):
>Top/Up, Windows/Up: 65-75 db
>Top/Up, Windows/Down: 75-81 db
>Top/Down: 75-81 db
>Cruising: 5th gear (50MPH @ 2800RPM)
>Top/Up, Windows/Up: 73-75 db
>Top/Up, Windows/Down: 78-80 db
>Top/Down: 81-82 db

>On road - Racing Beat Sport/Race Exhaust
>1st-3rd gear city driving:
>Top/Up, Windows/Up: 75-83 db
>Top/Up, Windows/Down: 75-83 db
>Top/Down: 75-81 db
>Cruising: 5th gear (50MPH @ 2800RPM)
>Top/Up, Windows/Up: 74-75 db
>Top/Up, Windows/Down: 79-80 db
>Top/Down: 81-82 db

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I'm unhappy with the off the shelf gauge mounting solutions for the ND, and the lack of a true oil temp sensor so I bought an extra a pillar trim panel off eBay. Going to modify it to have 3 gauge pods with some cutting and short strand fiberglass body filler, make a gel coat fiberglass mold, and vacuum bag some carbon fiber.
Starting with an oil temp sensor to figure out the coding (My wife is programming a teensy 4.0 board and doing the actual gauge assembly for me. She might try messing around with esp32-s3 too. Idk shit about electronics, I just like wrenching and bodywork).
The current plan is to tap into the obd2 12v and ground via a splitter, have small box containing the dev board under the dash somewhere, and then run the cords for the displays (1.8" circular TFTs) to a pillar meaning the depth of the gauges could be kept quite small. The a pillars are obstructive enough as is so keeping pcbs out of the display housing seems ideal. Planning to add oil pressure and transmission oil temp after the first sensor is working correctly. I also want a physical brightness dial linked to all 3.
Probably going to take a few months of weekend tinkering. I also can't do too much on the a pillar until we design and 3d print the display housings and I figure out how to best incorporate them. The tweeter is also in a prime gauge location so that might need to be moved higher up on the pilar or deleted

>sit in traffic
>temp gauge moves from middle to 3/4
>fan kicks in
>goes back to middle
Should i be worried about this? Shouldnt it always stay in the middle? What could be causing this?

>>28643400
I still stand by what I said. I bought my twin tip from them and it took ages to finally open up, probably because I never drove the car much at the time

>>28641755
I daily my miata, but I've got a mazda 3 turbo for winter in matching red.

>>28643537
Good luck, everyone and their brother tried to race me when I had dual pod a pillar trim. Your going to bring a lot of attention, both driving and in parking lots.

Getting ready to do a brake flush today. Car going on the lift, hopefully finish it today if I don't get too much other things to be done. Would love to gravity bleed overnight but I don't have the tubing nor the buckets to do more than one caliper at a time. Wish me luck, I don't have a mightyvac, just some speed bleeders and DOT4

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>>28644307
Well speed bleeders made it a million times easier. The rear valves are taller than the front, and are a different part size. Front passenger started to round off, so I put some penetrating oil on for a bit, then tapped it with a hammer and drowned it some more. Used a 6 point ratchet and it came off. The drivers rear I decided to double check and promptly snapped off the valve with a few threads above the caliper. Vice grips couldn't grip them. Went to Lowe's and got some bolt extractors, but lucky me the valves are BRASS and it just drilled them. Ended up getting a new caliper and putting that on.

What a day.

>>28644300
Will hopefully be low pro enough that it's not really noticable
>>28644976
Damn rough stuff anon but good job getting it done. Put a lil dab of anti seize on the bleeders next time. Those rotors are looking a lil rough too

>>28645040
Yeah the rotors are about 15 years old, they held up good. Powerslots, I recommend them but I don't think they make them anymore? I used hawk hp+ pads last time and they are much harder than the OEM pads, chewed the rotors quite a bit. Plus the new job has some construction and I'm sure the gravel bits are getting caught up.

Thanks dude, hope your Miata is doing well.

>>28641481
did it get a different ECU from the ND2?

>>28641481
never gonna happen, get an ND2 or an NC if you need more power out of a miata
>>28645331
yes

>>28646192
people said the same about the ND2

>>28646316
ND2 has plenty of power mods you can do
220 is doable NA with cams, exhaust, and tune

>>28646373
Not 220 at the wheels

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they should have revived the coup version for latest edition.. then given it window louvers.

shitty drawing, BUT you get the point.. make it more clown shoe like, but mby less than depicted.. this would provide space for things, free up weight, and i could actually take my dogs with me on drives.

freeing up mass should not make you mad if you rly like this car, that's what its all about.. if you absolutely are stuck on the soft top, im sorry to inform you about ur sexuality, faggot.

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Anyone tried or has 8k rpm tune for stock ND2?
I have fab9 7.7k rpm, but in reality gear 3 and up still limited to ~7.45k rpm.
anyone tried setting "stock" versatune tune to 8k?

>>28646316
no they didn't, the ND2 ECU was cracked within months of its release because people were frothing at the mouth about it. by contrast there are like 20 people on the entire English speaking internet that have ever so much as asked about tuning the ND3 in the nearly 2 years since it was released

>>28643650
your thermostat has left the chat

https://www.forbes.com/sites/peterlyon/2025/09/28/toyota-and-mazda-team-up-to-develop-new-mx-5-and-gr86/
thoughts on the next gen mx5/gr86?

>>28647841
what do you attribute the discrepancy in interest to?

>>28647921
hard to image if they could make ND but more better, save weigh and more power, while having na engine and no batteries.
but if they do, I will stay single and save money for next miata.

fiat 124 sway bars on ND?
want to reduce body roll slightly, afraid that aftermarket sway bars going be too stiff and affect winter stability .

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>>28647957
Why not a 124 directly?

>>28647957
>too stiff and affect winter stability
Bruh you'll be fine, just get anything. Cuscos I got are something like 150% suffer in the front and 300% in the rear and I have no trouble with driving in snow
>>28647977
Cmon he's obviously gay, he drives a Miata, but he's not a faggot

>>28647924
I think people were already anticipating more power in a miata when the ND2 was being released. also, the ND2 has been around for >5 years and has had power options up to forced induction for almost as long. basically, there already exists a bunch of secondhand ND2s ready to be modified in such a manner. no necessity to be the mother of invention anymore. it is unfortunate because the ND3 otherwise is the best of the bunch, if it had more power it would be the perfect goddamn car
in the incredible unlikely scenario the ECU does get cracked I would spend half a fortune building mine up because I'm a retard

>>28648007
>in the incredible unlikely scenario the ECU does get cracked I would spend half a fortune building mine up because I'm a retard
you're not alone

Im very excited for the new grille for my ND that's coming in tonight

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I drove an NC for the first time. Ive had a total of four 1.6 and 1.8 NAs.
The NC is still such a nice platform. It's tall and about as body roll-y as an NA stock, but the throttle response, pedal position, shifter, steering, and predictable suspension are still so good, incomparable with a normal commuter car. The torque curve is linear and predictable. The weight isnt bad and I'm sure a little extra power and lower suspension can make up for it. Still lighter than alternative cars of the era.
The only negatives were the sun visors suck and the soft top can't easily be closed while sitting in the car.
The hate the NC gets is fake news. I would totally buy one just to avoid dealing with as many old car problems on an NA.
Now I need to find an ND to drive. I wonder what will be the low point of depreciation, I'd guess they wont get as cheap as NCs.
Sorry for the blog. Carry on Miata trannies.

>>28649084
Can't you already find nd2s for under 20k? Nd1s probably even cheaper, but who wants that shit

>>28649084
I do like the NCs but there is a lot of ford in them so I tend to stay away