>Volvo Cars CEO warns of doom in the automotive world.>Some will adapt to the new conditions and survive. Others will not, says Håkan Samuelsson. >Volvo has had a tough 2025. Car sales have fallen by 10 percent, electric cars by 24 percent. The share price has fallen by 20 percent. But new CEO Håkan Samuelsson is confident that the future is all electric. – It may take a little longer in some regions, but the direction is clear. In about ten years, all cars will be electric and they will be cheaper, Håkan Samuelsson tells Bloomberg . Opinions? I think anyone denying an all electric future is delusional about the state of EV development. There is so much happening in the field every year and by each passing year, more and more of the used market becomes EV too. Won't be long before the low budget killers that already exist in China will be commonplace in the west too, and then it's all over for ICE.
maybe I'm wrong but I think the people who own lithium mines or battery factories are paying people to say some crazy stupid things. nobody wants electric cars except people who financially stand to benefit from their manufacture and being totally tone deaf about that is weird.
>>28613684The people who own lithium mines are as fraction as powerful as the people who own the petrol you buy.
>>28613688but the people who rule the owners of both want to get rid of the latter, so guess who wins in the end
>>28613676I think EVs make an excellent second car for any family that wants two cars and owns a house with a garage.
>>28613684there are electric cars all over here. lots of people drive one. i'm not sure where you get that no one wants one.
>>28613688Plot twist: it's the same people
who cares about what some chunk ass company has to say, the actually reputable brands of the world have all dropped their EV only future goals
>>28613676Why put all your eggs into one basket? Different types of cars can coexist together.
>>28613676Yeah and we were never supposed to see snow again after like 2020. Tell me more big brain "expert" predictions that have come true.
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>>28613676Weren't people saying this like a decade ago? >>28613967
call me when they can make lightweight EVs. and more manufacturers need to implement fake gears with rev limiter and stuff like Hyundai N did
>>28614013>and more manufacturers need to implement fake gears with rev limiter and stuff like Hyundai N didExtremely shit idea
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>>28613688banks own both
>>28613676Maybe it's just a Volvo problem? Maybe people don't want chink twincharged 4bangers? Meanwhile ICE's fly off the shelves compared to EV's.
Volvo ceo is a faggot
>>28614013It's just a matter of time really. Battery packs get more dense by each passing year. This is why the CEO gives a 10 year deadline. In 10 years, EV battery will have developed to such a point that it will beat ICE in value and performance in ALL fields. This rapid technology development is also why new EVs depreciate so hard.
>>28614380>Battery packs get more dense by each passing yearNo they fucking don't lol. Their capacities have been stagnant for the last 20 years. All we do is just make bigger cells and use more of them. >just 2 more weeks!Give it up.
>>28614025nah. it’s the only was EVs become tolerable
>>28614387Yes they fucking do. The same sized EVs sport way more energy dense batteries now compared to five years ago. Just compare the range of Neue Klasse BMW to last year's model. Same sized car, gives 200km more range while costing less brand new than the previous model did. This level of development is unheard of with the combustion engine.
>>28613676It's inevitable as the technology improves and costs fall. In a few decades ICE for passenger vehicles will be like CRTs are for TVs now. Antiquated, cumbersome technology replaced by simpler, more efficient (though not always better) technology.
>>28613967>never see snow after 2020Yeah, another republican talking point proven false. Just means EVs will suceed.
>>28614724Were you born an idiot, or did it take practice?
>>28613676>EV sales down twice as much as ICE sales>EV is the future guys, trust me
>>28613676>volvo>the brand that failed so hard it had to sell its soul to chinaSure they are just full of wisdom.
>>28613676Maybe in Europe because they are ideologically opposed to ICE. They dropped EV mandates here
>>28614768Until dems win in four years and reinstate them.
>>28614820I’m in canada
>>28613676volvo isn't even a real company. it's owned by china. no point in caring what they have to say
>>28614765I saw a recent year model Volvo parked at work today. It was indistinguishable from any of the other polished turd EVs Chinese EVs aside from the badgeIf this was to be their fate I'm kinda glad Saab just kept it's dignity and died instead
>>28613684>Ten more years.For real this time, we mean it.
>>28613684Electric cars are amazing. In a proper world we would have multiple fuel types and people could pick whatever is the best for their situation.If you want a big V8 sports car you can have one.If you want an EV you can have one.Forcing shit via the government is gay as fuck.
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>>28613676You think africa, middle east and easyern europe will have EV soon? Ofcourse not.They just want to fuck with the westEV’s are another draconian step into the satanic new world order
>>28613684>the people who own lithium mines or battery factories are paying people to say some crazy stupid things.people who own oil wells and refineries are not paying people to say some crazy stupid things?Might I remind you we killed at least 1 million people over oil?I don't care Chinks are getting rich by making batteriesI would much rather have Chang get the money than sandniggers do.
>>28614859> we killed at least 1 million people over oil?Who is this we? Did “we” have any say in this? Are “we” in control
>>28614415No they dont.
>>28614847>If this was to be their fate I'm kinda glad Saab just kept it's dignity and died insteadI own a Saab and I agree.
>Chinese company predicts things that help china to definitely happen this timeRmemeber that 2035 goal and how it is now pushed indefinitely? Hybrid is whats going to carry to yhr nezt centiry of vehicles, not EV. Until they solve the worldwide housing crisis, EV's wont be a thing without heavy government assistance
>>28614859>t. Chang
>>28613676That's a bad business bet. EVs are not a good deal economically for working class people which is the vast majority of their customers. Even the people who can afford them and the devaluation loss of them are starting to refuse them. If the future is EVs it's cheap Chinese EVs that are actually economically viable for the masses of plebs.
EVs are an attack on poor people. If you’re poor you likely live in an apartment so you can’t charge your EV. The government wants to stop poor people from having cars
>>28615068In light of this revelation, I may have to consider supporting EVs Keep the poor on the bus
>>28613684People who don't like ev's have never drove one. They are too poor to afford an ev. They shouldnt be on the road either. Gasoline cars will become povertybox cars.
>>28615711You can get a tesla for $300 a month with no money down bro
>>28615713Not a performance. Its the only way to ev
>>28614025i wish i saved the clip of that journo that hopped into an electric porsche and you could see his face fall when he heard the motor whine as he realised that'll all they'll ever sound likethere's already fake exhaust sounds for regular cars, no doubt there will be fake things in an EV to replicate a regular car for those that aren't allowed to own one
>>28615725Fake exhaust is pretty gay. I took the pws out of my ev so it doesn't snitch on me.
>>28615068All new apartments are forced to have chargers.All section 8 stuff as well.Soon EV will be synonymous with poor people.
>>28613684>maybe I'm wrong but I think the people who own lithium mines or battery factories are paying people to say some crazy stupid thingsyou're so closetake the hydrogenpill
>>28613676>car company owned by China believes Chinese EVs are the future
>>28613676What an idiot.
>>28615711I get that they are smoother to drive and quieter, but they are MUCH heavier and have issues with storage and space to let your foot hang esp in the rear and of course, with taking 30-60 minutes to charge, and at way less places, and being wildly impractical if you live in steep hills or rural areas and enjoy road trips It just seems like a way of selling more expensive vehicles to a populace that has little interest in them - it feels very artificial and not driven by actual consumer demand.
The only people I know who drive EVs are elderly ladies.My buddy was selling his corvette and we had to deliver it to the buyer. The buyer ran a tesla service and import company. Guess what car he drove us back home in. Yep, an inline 5 diesel volvo.
>>28615916>but they are MUCH heavier and have issues with storage and space to let your foot hang esp in the rear and of course, with taking 30-60 minutes to chargeThose are older EVs made on older platforms. The recent EV platforms allow a pretty long wheel base which makes the interiors more roomy. Most new EVs fast charge 10-80% in 20 minutes. What your post highlights is how rapid the EV development has been. In a decade, EVs will be the obvious poorfag choice of a value car.
>>28615923You're heavily dumb. In a decade the poorfag value car will be B38 BMW. Because the Puretechs, Ecoboosts and Vagshit will be in junkyards.
>>28615923>The recent EV platforms allow a pretty long wheel base which makes the interiors more roomy.I mean, I'd have to sit in them, but batteries have to go SOMEWHERE, so either there's less room for your legs, or the whole thing is higher riding meaning it's less stable in the wind and in curves. EVs still add a 1-2k lb weight penalty to any vehicle. >Most new EVs fast charge 10-80% in 20 minutes.which: degrades the battery more rapidly if you have to do it that way most of the timealso, that's like 20-80% so your actual range isn't the full rangeand with EVs they go slower when they are low on battery (unlike a gas powered car)and its much harder to find chargers in rural areas and mountains and you better hope they work, are unoccupied, and are delivering peak flow+ even being stuck for 20 minutes is still 4x longer than a visit to a normal gas station takes and it adds up if you have to find these places often on a road tripif you like exploring rural america, like I do, evs make no sensethey are toys for rich people, and making your lineup ev only and ignoring gas powered cars is a sign of a brand ready to die if you live somewhere hilly, or where it gets very cold, evs are not that smart an idea
>>28615923EVs will never be the poorfag choice because poorfags are renters
>>28616003>implying EVs don't and won't use subscription instead of ownership
>>28614851this
>>28613676>CEO of failed company bought out by chinks saysKek opinion discardedStill not buying chink
>>28615713Forgot to mention the 200$ a month insurance
>>28613676Unsolicited "expert opinions" from dipshits is an offense that should be punishable by death
>HORSES ARE THE FUTURE>GAS IS THE FUTURE>EVS ARE THE FUTURE>---YOU ARE HERE--->HYDRO IS THE FUTURE>NUCLEAR IS THE FUTURE>MOONINITE IS THE FUTURE
>>28613967>Yeah and we were never supposed to see snow again after like 2020After 2000. They have been coming out with this shit for decades.t. will never buy an electric Noddy car.
>>28614013>lightweight EVsNah, miss me with that shit. I'd be interested in an EV if they made retrofit kits for old cars with batteries the size of a 60 l fuel tank you can recharge from zero to full in 5 minutes, range unaffected by weather and temperature and real actual range of 500 km on one charge. Every single nucar looks worse than low LOD cars from GTA III and EVs are even worse. Nothing like I mentioned is going to happen though so they can fuck right off.
>>28613676But volvo is dead
>>28615068Know a guy that charges his tesla off a regular ass outlet in a parking garage.Seems to do him just fine.
>>28616707Shit is definitely changing though. I live like 5 miles outside of Chicago city limits and we've had maybe 3 inches of snow in as many years. Historically we're supposed to get 8-12 inches a *month*.
>>28613676I worked for an EV company (not Tesla, but another massive one) and EVs are struggling. Those stupid public fast chargers are either broken all the time or have those shady tactics like "charges UP TO" but then only really charges at a much slower rate. Then there's shit like range anxiety and mechanics/technicians that don't want to work on them, even dealerships are annoyed by them since they have to get one tech that specifically knows about all the tech on board since they really are just big computers.The motors and batteries are honestly pretty reliable and motor issues are extremely rare, but it's all the computer shit that tends to fuck EVs up, so you need a tech (basically an IT guy) on site for EVs and that's all he'll work on. What fucks things even more is if the EV can't be fixed on the day and it's been towed in, it rots at the service center and takes up space for the regular cars that can be fixed within the day.
>>28616837EV mechanicfound an use for this fucking shit CS degree i have
>>28613676>"a few big Chinese car companies will rule the market in the future"Volvo being one of them. Of course Volvo's CEO is against lifting bans on petrol engines in the EU, since he's the CEO of a Chinese EV company. He wants China to take over the EV market in the EU by selling for cheap at first, and jacking up the prices when they've taken over.
>>28617355The VW CEO wants the ban to remain too. He also says EV is the inevitable future of automobile industry. There's too much progress in comparison to ICE which is stagnant, convoluted and wasteful technology. If EU keeps bury its head in the sand, China WILL conquer all with low cost EVs.
>>28617423All companies that invested in EV want governments to force people to buy EVs, for obvious reasons. Additionally, VW and other European carmakers also want protectionist policies to shut down Chinese competition because they want consumers to be forced to buy from them and not the Chinese.
>>28617523But you just said Volvo only shilled for EV due to their China ties. The VW example shows a company not owned by the chinks also advocating EV-only future. I believe HMG also said they want the ban to stay. Once BMW's Neue Klasse outsells Model Y, they too will advocate for a ban. Only Mercedes and some other old school class brands will remain bitching. Mercedes is trash anyways. Got double penetrated by BMW and VW at EVs.
If EVs are as great as shilled, a ban won't be necessary. People will just quit buying ICEs.Anyone pushing for ICE bans fears their strategic EV investments won't stand up to the competition by their own merit.
>>28617552Ah yes the organic industry argumentBecause nothing is as free of subsidies and government loans as the petrol and automobile industries
