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*be's a 2 litre inline-4 in you're path*
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How much are these things worth compared to a low mileage TRD 3000GT Supra.

There has to be around 30 of these cars for the 3-4 years they raced with the WRC 3S-GTE.
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>>28628258
most fell into disrepair and had the engine reclaimed by Toyota Motorsport immediately after a season so functional GT500s are likely even rarer.
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>>28628258
>How much are these things worth
I know what I got gaijin
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>be's
Jesus fucking Christ, ESL-kun.
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>>28628313
*be's getting trolld*
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>>28628258
Timeline goes 2JZ, reengineered 503E aka 3SGT, WRC 3SGTE reengineered aka 171F then 244F 3SGTE and lastly 4.5l 3UZ.
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>>28628253
SHES AFTER HER ASS
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2JZ? No, shit.
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It's called the 2jz because it's 2 litres and in a jz chassis btw
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>>28628530
>2 litres
>2,997cc's
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>>28628450
The only 2JZ cars that ran were from Blitz and Gre-Co SHIFT POINT, the latter only raced at round 1 at Fuji. Blitz entered/raced at rounds 1-2 & 5, although the final round had them switch to near-factory support and run a 503E/3S-GT
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>>28628253
>theres a house 10 minute walk away from mine with 3 supras rotting away in the front yard
sad
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>>28628253
fuck you *boxer swaps you're inline four*
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>no one has posted the ultimate expression of the 503E yet

Cowards and imbeciles.
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>>28628253
*be's restrictor plate limited to a theoretical maximum 500 horspower in your path*

Yes.
There's no point using a 2JZ to make only 500hp.
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>>28630953
i wonder how this worked out
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>>28630953
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>>28628253
TuRD car
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>>28631535
>lasts 30 miles before needing a rebuild
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>>28634925
Woke lies.

There's literally documented evidence that a 503E has done 2485 miles without a rebuild. Seethe more, chud.
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>>28635171
I still am angry that Group C and IMSA were never allowed to compete together. VGH, WHAT COVLD HAVE BEEN...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G4WXGAOq1GM
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>>28635317
That looks so lovely to work on, big GT car with 4 cyl is so kino, I don't even care how slow it is.
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>>28635175
>Group C and IMSA were never allowed to compete together.
What the fuck are you talking about, retard? The 962 was specifically built for IMSA.
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>>28635321
No you don't actually want to work on a big car with a small engine crammed all the way in the back of the engine bay, unless there's enough free space for you to stand in there.
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>>28635917
Well the midship might be a bit of a nightmare, but a regular commuter car with engine in front of the axle like a Camry or Accord is pure joy when it needs a solenoid replaced or a belt, or plugs.
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>>28628253
Did someone say 2.0 I 4.
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>>28636133
DONNINGTON PARK TURN ONE 1998 RYDELL, PLATO, BINTCLIFFE, THOMPSON GREATEST ERA OF BTCC EVER 94-99
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>>28636144
That day...
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>>28636155
I NEAL..
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>>28636133
gay and FWD
>>28636155
gay and FWD

>>28636144
gay and FWD
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>>28636236
BMWs could compete in those races. They're the guys that hold up the "gay and FWD" guys by getting in the way.
If you want RWD Touring Cars look for Cosworth Sierra.
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>>28636261
I do watch classic Group A races.
Any class which limits horsepower but allows so much tyre that driveline layout doesn't even matter is gay and negroided.
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>>28636275
Yeah, right. gayboy.
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>>28636280
trannyverse faggot
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>>28636275
>le heckin horsepower
grow up xboxer
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>>28636275
RS500. Look it up then take a time out.
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>>28636284
Guess you missed the second bit, low horsepower is fine if you don't put giganigga tyres on your car.
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>>28636293
Oh wow I never discovered that car when I was watching classic Group A races, thanks anon!
This totally makes the gay FWD cars you posted not gay and FWD anymore!
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>tfw rwd celica
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>>28636299
Stick to your moms van, that way you'll never get out of bumfuk flyover.
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>>28636329
>your moms van
You get MOGGED by my mum's van
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>>28635317
advantages of a horizontal radiator?
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>>28636400
That's an intercooler buddy and the only real purpose is that instead of your intercooler and radiator sharing the same air, which one preheats before the other, they can each get their own fresh air flow.
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>>28636236
https://youtu.be/iyCT8uZoCkI
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>>28636312
That was FWD :)
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>>28636443
>literally just pulling handbrakies like I used to do when I was 8 years old on my BMX bike

Gay and FWD
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>>28636531
gt4s were awd
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>>28636312
Weird looking au falcon coupe
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>>28637549
That specific car was FF, retard. It's one of 3 that were FF in the entirety of JGTC/Super GT; the other two being the Bomex AE101 Levin (single race at Fuji in 2000) and the Wise Sports Cavalier (entered as a Toyota in 1997 and '98) with a 3S-GTE under the hood.
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>>28638048
Imagine being a toyota nerd couldn't be me
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>>28638048
o rite lol. hmm sems like the best way to get good info is to just post something wrong lol
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>>28639231
>just post something wrong
thats the only thing i do on this board
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Owari da...
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>>28638180
Could also just be a motorsportsfag
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>>28639521
Nice
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>>28628253
>People hyped 2jz as the second coming of Jesus
>Literally has no racing pedigree, all the championship supra uses a Celica engine instead
Is it the most overrated engine in existence?
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>>28639521
kino
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>>28631720
Using a 2 litre engine put them in a lower weight class which was a bigger benefit than whatever was to be gained by using a 3 litre.
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>>28636435
>intercooler buddy
How can I can one? I have no friends
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>>28643980
Brother.... they're all in the GT500 category
Your engine can only make 500hp, a 2 litre engine making 500hp is just as fast as a 3 litre engine making 500hp.
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>>28643970
>literally half the field of any professional drift series is JZ engines
>"iT's OveRaTeD"

Ok wrenchlet
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>>28643980
Naw it was because three main reasons
>teams were uncertain of 2jz reliability in racing settings
>lower weight over the front axle
>less fuel consumption compared to a 3l inline 6 making the same power
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>>28644002
>teams were uncertain of 2jz reliability in racing settings
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>>28644004
This was 30 years ago and the 2jz was untested in such settings
Better to be safe than sorry
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>>28644001
>Drift
>Matter
Lmao, no. And I've seen more Silvas winning drift competitions than 2jz supra.
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>>28644008
What you really mean is that they already had a race tested engine capable of reliably hitting their power goals in a smaller lighter package than the 2JZ so they didn't even bother trying to ascertain whether the 2JZ was race reliable.
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>>28644013
>umMmMm Akshually sweaty drift cars don't need power so drift engines don't count

What engine was in the silvia wrenchlet boy?
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>>28638048
Based nerd.
Also FWD is fine.
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>>28644020
LS engine......not kidding the winner of 2024 D1 grandprix actually used an s13 fitted with LSX.
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>>28644052
Yeah LS engines is the other half of the drift field
but don't pretend one half isn't JZs
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>>28644065
Yeah but still, it's only good for drifting due to its weight, unlike other engines like rb26 dett or 3s-gte that were better all rounder.
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>>28638048
>3sgte cavalier
Wonder why they didn't use the Quad4
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>>28644052
Last time I paid attention to Formula D it was an LS7 swapped S13 driven by Dai Yoshihara that won, is it still the meta?
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>>28644642
JGTC regs allowed any engine used from the manufacturer, and the Cavalier was sold over in Japan as a Toyota. I also forgot about the FTO run by Taeivon Trampio to round out the FF cars in JGTC
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>>28644452
ANOTHER RETARD WRENCHLET WHO THINKS THE RB26 IS MAGICALLY LIGHTER THAN THE 2JZ
WHERE DO YOU RETARDS LEARN THIS RETARDATION
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>>28644016
Yeah that's what I meant
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>>28645044
>ANOTHER RETARD WRENCHLET WHO THINKS THE RB26 IS MAGICALLY LIGHTER THAN THE 2JZ
I never said that, I said it was a better all rounder. Learn to read.
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>>28645552
Why is the 2JZ no good due to its weight, but the RB26 isn't?
Specifically what about the RB26 makes it a "better all rounder"?

Try not to expose yourself as a total wrenchlet while you answer these simple questions.
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>>28645602
The bendy crank really sets the RB apart. A masterpiece in chocolate *chef's kiss*
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>>28645552
It isn't at all
Only benefit of the rb26 is the awd sump lmao
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>>28645602
>Why is the 2JZ no good due to its weight, but the RB26 isn't?
Better power to weight ratio
>Specifically what about the RB26 makes it a "better all rounder"?
It actually wins race since it has better torque and power at higher RPM. If 2jz is so good, then why not a single can win on JGTC? Most 2jz wank came from fast and furious. It is good but it's not 100k for a 26 year old Toyota good.
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>>28645661
>It actually wins race since it has better torque and power at higher RPM
Or is it because it was run in awd cheater cars?
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>>28630549
>10 minute walk
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>>28645661
>it's better because.... IT JUST IS OKAY?!?!?!?
>IT HAS BETTER POWER TO WEIGHT (even though they weigh the same and JZ engines consistently hit higher power figures reliably than RB engines)
>IT HAS BETTER TORQUE AND POWER AT HIGHER RPM (even though tuned JZ engines have consistently out perform tuned RB engines in the real world for decades)
>IT WON RACES!!!!! (because Toyota used their smaller engine for the 500hp limited class)

Brother I told you not to expose yourself as a total wrenchlet
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>>28645692
>even though tuned JZ engines have consistently out perform tuned RB engines in the real world for decades
Proof?
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>>28645698
This debate is done and dusted retard, it is widely accepted in the drag racing and drifting communities that a JZ engine will reliable handle more power than an RB engine.
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>>28644052
>>28644665
Literally today lmao:
https://www.youtube.com/live/jVXGipjbRCU?si=ZEe2Y32viSU4lvZK&t=20085



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