None of you seem to know literally anything about design and need to shut the fuck up, unironically.
>>28643275Ok. Annnnd what does one +40yo Ferarri model have to do with the topic?
>>28643293The F40 is as close to the platonic form of a sports car that anybody has ever created. You cannot improve upon this design.
>>28643298why are 16 year olds larping as boomers allowed to post here?
>>28643298and for the platonic form of a truck or SUV, my vote is the GMT400 platform, but only the Chevrolet variants and only the late 90s examples.>>28643304you are gay
>>28643298its the platonic idea of "road legal track car" but the most pure form of sports car ever? Idk. I think sports cars are still supposed to be somewhat enjoyable to be in.Either way i perfer my beloved lotus esprit and im sure everyone else has there own car theyd rather have over an f40, unless the f40 is there favorite car.
>>28643433Loutses/Loti are fun.
>>28643433I'm talking solely about its design
most people who you talk to here don't even have a license
>>28643275Laughs
>>28643827f40 is better
>>28643827I will never be happy with those low iintkes.Ferrari fags are gey anywaty.
>>28643298>that use of platonicF40 is nice getting within 10ft of one really starts to make it's fabrication flaws apparent. There's something to be said for when something looks the part and is also fabricated and assembled to a high standard.t. an architect. what are your design credentials son?
>>28643844i don't really care about "fabrication flaws". that has nothing to do with its design. also the nsx, while legendary, has no road presence.
>>28643849Low intkakes will work 70% of the time here, the rest of the year needs studded tyres
>>28643827That is such a good looking car
>>28643849>who cares if it performs like ass if it looks good in the drivewayShit like this is why designers don't get final say above the engineers.
>>28643830It's not better looking. Have you ever seen an F40 in person? They look like a shit tier kit car, especially the interior. Great track car, but that's it.
>>28643275>Make primarily mid engine cars>Still give it a bonnet like there's a v10 in there.
>>28643930Put the f40 engine in an F50 and now we're talking.
>>28643930the interior is all business, which is all a sports car should be.regardless, if you think >>28643275 is not the most beautiful sports car then you are simply wrong
>>28643275i see a car it either looks good or bad.
>>28643954Dude the fucking angle your legs will be in there makes me uncomfortable. I fucking hate asymmetrical controls.
>>28643830>f40 is better Impressive machine, for the race track.
>>28644005F40 fags take notice, everyone's attention on the Lamborghini Miura!
>>28643849>Fabrication flaws have nothing to do with designGood design uses fabrication strengths and limitations to inform decisions. If something is being designed with zero thought to how it's going to be built, it's gunna look like shit. The F40 looks good from 30ft away. It looks like a kit car when you're next to it. fwiw I love the f40 but jfc stop larping as a designer.>>28643906>Shit like this is why BAD designers don't get final say above the engineers.ftfy both disciplines should work in tandem together from the early design stages
>>28644026you seem to be the one larping as a designer. the body is literally made of kevlar. they clearly put a lot of thought into what materials to use.
>>28644041Quality of materials != Quality of a design. You can spec the best materials but if how they're put together is secondary the design suffers. The F40 is put together like a race car (because the quality of craftsmanship in its assembly is secondary) not a sports car which you're claiming it's the epitome of.
>>28644051so you're just being semantic about sports car vs. race car, then? yes it's built like a race car and it's road legal. it's still a beautiful shape. It looks fantastic from any angle.what would you consider the most beautiful sports car to be?
>>28644051if we're just talking quality and not including anything too exotic, w140 was the peak, no?
>>28644074any mercedes from the 80s up to buying Chrysler in 1998
>>28643304k h e k
>>28643298that's incorrect; it's either the lotus elan, shelby cobra, ferrari 250 GTO or porsche 911the're all very close to the platonic ideal but have negative and positive attributes over one another so there's no real "one" answer
>>28644059>beautiful shapeWTF, Is Janeane Garofalo your Ideal woman?
>>28644111lol. lmao. a lotus elan? your idea of a heavenly, perfect form of a sports car is a lotus elan?
>>28644041>the body is literally made of kevlar. they clearly put a lot of thought into what materials to use.have you been following the stanceworks F40 build on youtube? the guy behind the project bought genuine F40 body panels and when he tried to mount them and measure them on his jig, they weren't symmetrical. i believe one was several centimetres off, which is abysmal quality control even by contemporary standards. i've seen close-up photos of the kevlar weave on the body panels and it doesn't look great either, which tells me that the way they handled the kevlar into the mould wasn't very proficient but i guess you can chalk that up to it being the first production car/company to use that material but even then, i'm not aware of the porsche 959 having any of these issues
>>28644119yes, my idea of a heavenly sports car is one which is widely regarded to have the greatest steering feel of any car ever produced, so much so that a literal prodigy of a car designer who sleeps only 4 hours a day, designed the cars for his F1 team almost singlehandedly while also running the team at the same time (!) for nearly 10 years straight said that he was unable to replicate the perfection of the steering of the elan despite his best efforts and thirty years of design engineering experience. plus, it could easily out-accelerate cars with three times its power, like the lamborghini miura
>>28644130Needs the maintenance of a F1 car too.
>>28644139that's made in britain for you
>>28644146So Autozone would be little help?
>>28644130>talking about gay stuff like performance instead of the vehicles aestheticsAs I said, you faggots don't know design at all.
>>28644156where do you think aesthetics come from, dickhead?
>>28644163all modern cars have far superior performance to these older cars, and yet they're all extremely ugly and gay looking.
>>28644191Timeless
>>28644241It gets better with age, like the Ducati 999. The visionaries are always proven right.
>>28644241>>28644244it's ugly, and not in a cool way like the f50. it's simply an ugly design.
>>28644191>performance technology has improved, therefore modern cars are uglyHUUUURR DUURholy shit, read a book you braindead mutt monkeyyou are the most uneducaten person i've seen all year
>>28644256if you think modern cars aren't ugly, you're a retard. they're all bloated pieces of shit with high belt lines and random lines and stupid plastic pieces that serve no purpose. They are fucking ugly.
>>28644256Modern cars are literally designed for asians and arabs, so if you think they look good, you aren't white and should stop posting.
>>28644247Ferrari made a F50?
>>28644313of course they did
>>28643275>down syndrome looking headlights mounted too low to make room for regulatory (and ugly) popups behind it>8 NACA ducts slapped all over it instead of designing a cohesive inlet>fuckheug panel gap running the entire length of the car which further breaks up the puny front end>fat star wheels covered in ugly two-piece boltsYou like the F40 for its engineering, not for its design, it's a performer, not a looker. Pic rel is an infinitely better looking Ferrari wedge.
>>28644353all of your criticisms are retarded bullshit
>>28644361you seem to know literally nothing about design and need to shut the fuck up, unironically.
>>28644365you're talking about the panel gap as if that's a flaw. puny front end? please anon. the wheels look great too.
>>28644339That's supposed to be less ugly than the Enzo?
>>28644435The Enzo has like one decent angle. It's otherwise this really ugly little gay car>OMG BUT ITS FRIGGIN F1 INSPIRED!!!!Look at this ugly shit. These little tail lights. The bubblyness....it's fucking lame.
>>28644481I like it's simple shape. Not every sports car needs to be folded panels like origami or have 2-story rudders.
>>28644553that's really ugly
>>28644481Ferrari's trend of having all their tailights peak up over the top of the rear really just aged horribly. The LaFerrari feel like an all around improvement to the Enzo's design ethos, the pointed front end actually works on it without looking gaudy.
>>28644584>those randomly shaped headlights because "we have LEDs now, lets make a retarded random design!!"cant stand that shit on basically every new car
>>28643830288 GTO has an interior.
>>28644693it's basically the same
>>28644696Oh yeah, that's real close to the F40. You can hardly tell them apart.
for me, its the FXX and FFXK.
>>28643954>>28644696they are clearly really similar >>28644698
>>28644734Similar
>This was peak car designhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbIGZrpXJlk
>>28645122Christ, I got to watch commercials to see the point you're trying to make?
>>28643954It's a track car, not a sports car. You wouldn't want to spend more than an hour in that thing.
>>28644111The 911 is iconic but ugly from every angle.
>>28643816That's all part of design retard. Every single part of a car is designed. You're talking solely about exterior visual design. And even that doesn't exist in a vacuum, a car's visual design should reflect it's driving characteristics as well as look good.
>>28643954from experience I know its very uncomfortable. But I've been in worse
>>28645136get an adblocker. not my problem that your retarded
>>28643833>Ferrari fags are gey anywaty.titanium cope
>>28644059>what would you consider the most beautiful sports car to be?I couldn't pick a single car a most beautiful, but I would say the F355 is one of them and is a further refinement off the F40. It used the language of the F40 and a lot of the design details but executed them in a more elegant way.
>>28645204yeah, uh huh
>>28645838Based RS Clubsport knower. Much better than the ugly overfender GT2.
>>28645831wow, a response that isn't totally stupid? it's too bad that it costs like $15k/yr or whatever just to maintain one
>>28643844>that use of platonicSeems legit to me as they are literally referring to platonic forms. Are you reading it midwittishly?
>>28646059it's pretty annoying how these people don't understand that i'm talking about the shape of a car. its silhouette, the lines, how striking it is to see on the road...i'm saying that if you went to heaven, the race cars there would look something like an F40--not literally as it's not possible to do that in real life, but it's an approximation.
>>28644111>here's your platonic ideal brosorry but faggots and their faggotmobiles are not allowed in heaven
>>28646100>F40No HotWheels in Heaven
>>28646188the Elan is basically already a hotwheels
>>28643275It looks like a kit car. An expensive one, but it's not particularly pretty. It's blocky, wedgy, has too many inlets that are not proprietary and those double headlights are pretty ass.>>28643844Almost same design, but much more beautiful and refined.>>28644339Based. Best Ferrari.
>>28643275Hell yeah love it! I prefer the Countach though
>>28643275What are those aerodynamic triangles for?
>>28649036It's to remind Itals of a vagina so they'll get the horn and buy one.Never trust a Med around your mother.
