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Is an "overlanding build" really necessary?
i meant i managed to fit enough camping equipment for 3 people in my camaro and drove through dirt and gravel roads and all without any issue
what's the point of all this?
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I'm not really sure what the hell overlanding even is other than a marketing term to sell more crap to yuppies. You can travel across most of america with a FWD shitbox, I've done it.
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>>28644108
Coping mechanism for poser adventurers that can't afford heli drops xor true ATV logistics for their trips.
Some crusty ass KLR with a tent or rusty niva will take you further offroad than these.
Only feasible usecase i can see for them is doing tradie shit in remote regions without existing infrastructure.
>b-b-but my fun for whole family offroad glamping
Just get a van, all prime glamping spots don't require offroading capabilities.
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>>28644108
It's not necessary but it looks cool. I have a 4Runner with an OME lift and 33" falken wildpeaks, roof rack with an awning and custom mounted 46" SKB double rifle case, ladder with traction boards and canister, rock sliders and front skid plate, and I haven't been camping once in my life.
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>>28644108
>what's the point of all this?
LARPing as you take your "fully kitted build" on an extremely light trail to your campsite
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>>28644108
>camaro
I'm sure you've done some wicked off-roading in your Camaro
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>>28644174
>It's not necessary but it looks cool
kind of figured that sums it up
> and I haven't been camping once in my life
kek
>>28644186
based
>>28644188
i never did off roading only CAMPING and drive through some dirt and gravel trails which are roads
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>>28644174
>OME lift and 33" falken wildpeaks, roof rack with an awning and custom mounted 46" SKB double rifle case, ladder with traction boards and canister, rock sliders and front skid plate
Look what they need just to mimic a fraction of our power.
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>>28644223
Man you don't even need a roof tent for the element. There's plenty of room inside. I'd rather use the top for cargo and sleep inside.
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I could see the benefit in strapping some shit to the outside of your vehicle so that you have more room inside to sleep, but 90% of "overlanding" builds I see are pristine mall crawlers put together by dudes who make decent money and want a truck that they think looks cool and they maybe take it out on a gravel road for a weekend or two every summer.

One thing I have noticed is that most of the builds I see have snorkels (literally no one needs a snorkel), but they very rarely have a winch (which would be infinitely more useful offroad, especially in a group). I'd never fault a guy for trying to make his vehicle look cool though.
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>>28644261
>I'd never fault a guy for trying to make his vehicle look cool though
forget modding a car some people are like
>why do you buy a jeep wrangler if youre never gonna offroad it bro
because it's the only cool looking suv on the market lol
can't blame a nigga for wanting a cool looking car
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>>28644223
Roof tent is fun. Kids love it.
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>>28644279
>can't blame a nigga for wanting a cool looking car

No joke. What's the point of working so hard if you can't occasionally drop a few bucks on stupid shit that makes you happy? Especially on something like your car, which most people will be looking at almost every day
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i want one of these so badly but i heard that the sacrifice to daily driving in terms of noise and comfort is just too much
what's /pol/'s opinion?
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>>28644261
>>28644279
>I'd never fault a guy for trying to make his vehicle look cool

Totally agree. People are faggots and larpers, always have been always will be, but I welcome any and all expression of individuality and modification with vehicles.

Most people larp with offroaders because the tuner scene was too targeted by cops and made it untenable.

4x4 is also a mostly white sub culture. People innately want to be away from browns and blacks, whether you accept this subconsciously or not.

4x4 has cheaper cars to get into as a starting point, and has a mild benefit of being able to hoon off road. Cops are starting to clamp down on it now, though.

Either way, I am very sad at the seeming downturn of modified cars. It shows a downward trend of creativity and engineering/tinkering culture
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>>28646556
A lot of it has to do with it actually being... a car. I used to be into sportscars but there's a lot of downsides. 3 inches of ground clearance makes getting around more difficult, having useless or none backseats is inconvenient, the stiff suspension and seats and sitting position make long rides uncomfortable. With a truck or SUV you can go anywhere easily and do anything and they're practical and they're not fun but neither is the sportscar when you have to worry about cops.
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>>28646493
>sacrifice to daily driving in terms of noise and comfort is just too much
It's a vert. If you're already worrying about noise you're going to need a hard top variant.

Just test drive, or better yet rent one on turo, and decide for yourself. It's a very niche vehicle. IMO they ride like shit and I prefer IFS. (Inb4 autistic screeching)
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>>28646587
Nta but yeah cars are unironically shit. I'm thinking truck and a dirt bike is probably 99% of what I want to do. I can't afford to drop thousands tracking a car but I can buy a truck that'll soak bumps and be good for taking the family camping plus hoon a dirt bike while I'm there without getting killed by Pablo on the way to work.

Cars are unfortunately no longer a safe hobby for Timmy.
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>>28644108
>Is an "overlanding build" really necessary?
Not really, specially considering that people do this on fucking Subuwus.
>what's the point of all this?
Posing. And I don't mean posing in the pretentious cocksucker kind of way, well, kind of. Since the people who do this LOVE to post their "trips" to instagram, but it's not really about the pretentious cocksuckerishness. It's about it being a prop for the pretentiousness. Something to have in the background of your pictures while you post them online for you and your other camping buddies
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>>28644261
The point of a snorkel is that it keeps your air filter cleaner longer in dusty areas since the car breathes from above the dust. It's not for driving underwater like most people assume. It's true that literally nobody needs a snorkel but many of them are saving time and money by having it.
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>>28646587
Very true. Australia has a lot of dual cab utes which can seat 5x people, and have a tray for light commercial use. There's tax incentives/fraud for business owners to have a work/personal car in one. Our on road costs are atrociously high so we can't have multiple single purpose vehicles unless we're rich

I have an evo 8, I keep it as a daily because it holds value and I am able to repair it myself. If I didn't have this car, I'd absolutely be in an aggressive looking 4x4, or buy ANOTHER rav4 hybrid

>>28646595
Unfortunately, true. Dirtbike will depend on your risk threshold, either way
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>>28644108
>Is an "overlanding build" really necessary?
No. I remember a few buddies just camping in a stock Montero or 4Runner because it's more comfortable sleeping in a car than a tent.

I see it a lot in my job. They make six figures and have pristine overland rigs with huge lifts, but they'll rarely have time to do so. Their middle age, sedentary desk job and sedentary lifestyle means their health deteriorates rapidly and they're no longer in the physical shape necessary to enjoy those outings they fantasize about.

>>28644261
>90% of "overlanding" builds I see are pristine mall crawlers put together by dudes who make decent money and want a truck that they think looks cool and they maybe take it out on a gravel road for a weekend or two every summer
It's actually rather common for high earners to do that, but they're so busy working that they just build their dream rig in the hopes that one day they'll finally get around to it. They're too mired in mortgage payments and financing their three vehicles to ever try though.

This also happens a lot with boats. They'll never see water, but the doctor, dentist, or chemist with sixteen patents and nine-figure net worth dreams of the day he'll get to use it, but the organization that finances their high net worth requires that they never take a day off.

>>28644279
>can't blame a nigga for wanting a cool looking car
I agree. I can't justify it on a car unless I have utility for it, but I recently spent $5100 on rhythm game hardware so I don't have to drive to a Dave & Busters or a Round1 to scratch that itch. Those are also one hour drives one-way too. It's expensive enough that it'll pay for itself off in less than a year compared to the cost of two hours of driving back and forth and playing for hours.
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>>28646595
Smart way to go. ATVs are fun as well.
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>>28644108
idk. I had plenty of fun driving around in BLM land with an Accord.
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>>28644108
It used to mean gearing up to go and explore on some crazy adventure. Now it's just how much shit can you bolt to your rig to look like a tough guy and go camping only a couple times a year.
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>>28644108
Actual overlanding is in Utah/Colorado
Trails out there will destroy your vehicle and leave you stranded if you're not prepared
Everything else is LAROP
>hurr I took my shitbox on an access road so overlanding is a meme
no, you're just an ignorant retard, sorry not sorry.
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>>28647031
There are some pretty good ones in eastern Washington and northern Idaho as well. Apparently northern California has some good stuff as well.
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>>28647031
A lot of the "actual overlanding" in CO is relegated to closed loop switchbacks with destinations that are often reachable via regular access roads or even paved roads. Most of Utah is just high desert. It really seems all that equipment would be more useful to someone in Alaska.
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>>28647002
>Their middle age, sedentary desk job and sedentary lifestyle means their health deteriorates rapidly
i wonder how much of this is just from eating so much junk. i haven't really increased my portion sizes since finishing high school and when i do feel hungry im often just too lazy to go grab a snack. everyone at work thinks im a vacuum cleaner because i hate wasting food but honestly i don't actually eat that much
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>>28644108
building a larpmobile is 90% of the draw of overlanding
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>>28647037
Thats not why they call you
>The vacuum cleaner
Anon...
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>>28647056
zozzle was waiting to see how long someone would make that joke
they do crack jokes like
>ehh just leave a plate out, anon will come
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>>28647037
>i wonder how much of this is just from eating so much junk
Definitely factors into it. I can't remember a week when someone hasn't brought donuts into work. I'm more thrilled when they bring a charcuterie board instead so I can have meat, cheese, and fruits instead.
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>>28644155
>Only feasible usecase i can see for them is doing tradie shit in remote regions without existing infrastructure.

What's the best vehicle for this?
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>>28644108
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>>28644186
>pic
How much does it cost to modify Camaro suspension like this?
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>>28648213
I looked at RTT briefly before just deciding to camp in my truck bed instead. A bit of plywood and some 2x10s and I had a nice bed with storage underneath.
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>>28647071
fug I wish someone at my work brought in meats and cheeses. shouldn't complain though. a few of us bring in overstock of meal prep (fun shit like stir frys, curries, soups, etc). one guy sometimes just brings in a loaf of fresh homemade bread which is the tits

and then there's the one cunt that's constantly going on about how she needs to eat less sweets, but will bring in dozens of donuts or an entire cake to share so fucking frequently. she also gets offended when people don't eat some. I'm all for the occasional treat, but it's almost every week and it's usually just grocery store trash loaded with sugar
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>>28647025
zoomer here, blm means black lives matter to us
:sob: im crine :sob: nephew :sob:
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None of the permanent shit is necessary for 99% of people, I built my truck out with the bumper and winch because I loved the look. The secondary benefit is that I can use it if I get myself in a jam, but I just did a 350 mile loop in the north Georgia mountains and needed nothing more than low range.

We just threw regular camping shit into a couple pelican cases and strapped them to the bed and did just fine for the three days we were out there.

I see people driving down the road pretty frequently with rooftop tents and other overland shit mounted to their cars and genuinely wonder how often any of it actually gets used.
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>>28648452
Here’s a picture of our camp setup, could it have been optimized better? Sure. Did I want to spend thousands on some high tech drawer system that then takes away all of the utility from my bed? Absolutely not
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>>28644153
Is it not just camping over your vehicle instead of setting up a tent n stuff??
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>>28646595
"Pickup trucks" are cars
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>>28648452
>>28648457
too much truck
pretty much all of this stuff can fit in a mustang or camaro Xd
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>>28648480
Hairdressers' cars, anon. Don't you ever forget that.
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>>28646633
Sand carpet is usually less than 8 inches above the ground in all but the windiest areas. Local dust is 12 feet. That's the height we use for high atmosphere dust collectors. That means snorkels do jack shit most places. The word snorkel does also imply it's for fording water, but putting electrical systems under water for any length of time is generally full retard.

-t. Sedimentologist
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>>28648707
>The word snorkel does also imply it's for fording water, but putting electrical systems under water for any length of time is generally full retard.
Not him, but the words air intake imply there's something sucking lots of air, and getting water mixed into this air might result in disastrous consequences for the engine, while splashing electronics in the engine bay with water is completely normal. In other words you don't need to submerge your intake completely to get water inside.
>That means snorkels do jack shit most places.
People sometimes use snorkels with pic
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>>28644108
I added bigger tires to my 89 Montero and suddenly women wanted to fuck me whereas before they wanted nothing to do with me or my shitheap
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>>28648457

What is the sprayer for?

>>28644108

The more space you have the more bullshit your wife/gf insists on bringing along and you spend too much time setting up and breaking down shit.

Literally a fucking tent, a couple cans of chef boyardee and a bottle of booze is all you need to have a good time. Walking to where a vehicle can't reach can get you further away from the LARP faggots and their loud speakers and screeching families. Worst is when you have a group of tryhards that brought along their gaggle of hens and the hens couldn't agree on what to cook that night so they start battling it out over who is the most opressed.
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>>28649006
Kek it's kinda true, the overlanders bringing a million pounds of shit with them is woman behavior, you do not need that much in the way of gear to go camping.
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>a bunch of weebs and pavement trannys don't know anything about overlanding
shocking
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>>28644108
There's a difference between Overlanding and Car Camping that's been lost through marketing lingo and public retardation. Overlanding Rigs are built for doing extreme, remote off road expeditions that require a vehicle that can sustain the individuals for extensive periods of time when there are no emergency services or help within hundreds of miles. What most people are "building" are mall crawlers covered in tacticool bullshit that will never be used outside of a campsite at Yellowstone.
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>>28648282
>shouldn't complain though
Not all workplaces bring food to share. It's part of that office's little culture and it's fortunate if they do.

The younger ones like doing bake-offs and get the others to join in. The office votes on what recipe tastes the best. People are oftentimes surprised what wins. Sometimes simple recipes are clear winners.
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>>28648843
Might've been a dream anon. Women don't exist.
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>>28646493
I would only ever buy one for exclusive off road use like an ATV. Ive had them as rental cars and they are without a doubt the worst commuter vehicle in existence
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>>28644223
I swear I thought the thumbnail was an isometric shot of a cyberttruck on enormous monster truck tires.
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>>28648710
>while splashing electronics in the engine bay with water is completely normal
splashing or IP65 is a completely different rating than submerging or IP67. This also ignores that your differentials, transmission, etc have breather vents which will get water in to them contaminating the fluids. Thinking you can ford water because you put a $300 intake kit on your car is simply ricer levels of retarded
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>>28649918
that's why you need a bit of hose and a breather cap then run it up to beside the fuel door or any other convenient spot that's also high
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>>28649018

It's not kind of true. It is true. I have lived it through a couple women and in between them I am basically not far off of rolling up with nothing and seeing how it works out but with them "we" need 800 lbs of "camping gear" to spend one fucking night 10 mins from the parking lot.
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>>28650023
anon, the fuel door isnt much higher than the air intake in most cars. if you're bothering to put a snorkel on, then its assumed it would get that high
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>>28649006
>chef boyardee
the master.
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>>28649006
My buddies who just slept in their hatchbacks always seemed like they had nothing to do when it came to camp setup or breakdown. If you're car camping, I'd even say tents are too much: just bring the spahghetti-o's.
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>>28650288
>just bring the spahghetti-o's.
This, maybe some campchairs for hanging out with the boys, but reclining the front seats with a blanket and pillow in the car is so cozy come naptime, unless your car is ridiculously small.
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>>28649918
>splashing
Can't you read? Breather vents don't suck gallons of air every second. Besides, look at air intakes in bigger trucks. Go tell people that design and use them they are retarded too.
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>>28650422
anon, class 8 trucks arent fording water either. you're now not only retarded but also massively butt hurt.

>suck gallons of air
they dont have to you retard, its the exact same reason why the engine's intake is being moved to the roof line, because of water pressure, not vacuum.
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>>28647053
100%

It’s about being seen on the roads and the kind conspicuous consumerism self-branding bullshit that just gets more and more pronounced in modern America

For the amount of money people spend on shit like earthroamers you could have a STOL airplane (or floatplane), the training to fly it and all the gear needed to stay in the backcountry indefinitely plus a million bucks leftover. and that can go literally anywhere, deep into the most remote areas of the world.
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>>28650518
>anon, class 8 trucks arent fording water either
Yet they still have these snorkels, sometimes with particle/water separators.
>they dont have to you retard
But the engine does.
>because of water pressure
There is no water pressure if you are not submerged. We're talking about splashing, not submerging. Please do something with your reading comprehension, anon, it's horrible.
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>Yet they still have these snorkels
thats a thing for cab overs because there is no where else it put them you retard, not because they're fording water in them. meanwhile in the US



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