>mindraped goycalled will unironically defend this because it "saves space" you must be absolutely thrilled that your tiny pecker saves saves so much space in your wife's vagina for Tyrone
>>28645637It's an automatic. If there's no actual linkage I don't see why you wouldn't want to make better use of the space.
>faggot australian bitches like a woman about people and cars he will never seetypical 4am /o/
For 99% of people a car is just an appliance and in no way contributes externally to how they view themselves or forms a part of their identity.For the other 1%, they're needlessly insecure about their pecker and black people.
Who fucking cares, it's an autotragic appliance. You want to save space? Column shift.
>>28645643>think of all the things I could use that precious center console space for if I replace tactile feedback with a soulless jewknob!!!name one fucking thing these "space savings" make room for other than a third cupholder big enough for your 278oz MegaMutt ShartGulp cup
why do you think consumer preferences drive features like this? It's top down. The normie goes to the dealership, they get gaped out by the salesman on whatever category of vehicle they want, and then they live with the features of that car unthinkingly until it's time for the next one.
>>28645654Dials have tactile feedback dumbass cuck. Imagine trying to act hardcore about your fucking automatic "stick". You gay bitch lmao.
>>28645637Only women and retarded Americans drive automatic, anon. What's your excuse?
>>28645657go ahead and tell me what your dial shifter is set to without looking at it, retard
>everyone minding their own business >op starts ranting about black cock
>people defending the knob shifter pretending they drive manual
>>28645637The most offensive part of these, other than being automatic, is that they should really just be on the dash. Why not just get rid of the shit in the center for more leg room since it's all electronically linked anyways?
>manual is good because it sacrifices convenience for UX >automatic is bad because it sacrifices UX for convenience >dial shifting is good because it sacrifices UX for "convenience"
>>28645665cause the transmission is still in the tunnel you fucking moron
>>28645637It's already an autotragic, so it's a humiliation ritual no matter how you """""""shift"""""""
>>28645675>transmission is still in the tunnelIs it, though? What if it's transverse?
>>28645637you dont need anything more or less than this
>>28645675That's not how it works. It's not connected to anything. Shifters are all just buttons now. Dodge does exactly what anon wants with the dial next to the steering wheel. Lincoln for a while had literally buttons next to the infotainment screen.
It's actually objectively superior to the LARP stick, because when your senile ass gets out of the car while it's in drive, it has the ability to put on the parking brake for you. The technology is designed to save retarded boomers and brownoids just like you, and yet you reject it.
>>28645637For automatic, why does it matter? You probably touch it once per trip.
>>28645664OP, you got BTFO by multiple anons and it's time to move on.
>>28645643It takes up the same space as a regular shifter tho
>>28645891
>>28645895where is the space saved here?
>>28645895>>28645896It's not "saving space" it's making the space more convenient. Or, in a way, it saves vertical space. You don't have to reach around it or over it to access the surrounding storage areas, it's easier to move things over from the passenger seat if you had a sort of bag or something, or if you needed to climb over the center to get into the passenger seat.
Why do amerimutts just have to bring up interracial sex all the time? Is it some sort of mental illness caused by high fructose corn syrup?
If you're gonna have an auto you might as well have bench seats, otherwise why bother
>>28645959Bench seats suck for a whole other reason. Shifter construction and seat configuration are entirely separate issues.
>>28645896How do you turn on your car remotely via phone app if the gearbox is stuck in the wrong gear?
>>28645637That little dial shifts way harder and faster than you ever will. Stay slow, stay mad.
>>28645972Pretty dumb post how do your turn your car on remotely if the battery is disconnected
>>28645891It's for the fat fuck burgers who would otherwise struggle to lift their 2L sodas from the cup holders.
>>28645891That’s just an electronic shifter designed to look like a physical one.
>>28645675Cause no cars with column shifters that were rwd ever had leg room or bench seats, dumbass
>>28646957>not a bench seat >obvious transmission tunnel lol
OP is a faggot is the only reply suited for this thread. What a homo.
How do I find a mindraped goycattle bf?(im male)
With a stick shifter you can quickly grab it and go through the PRNDL without looking.But with a dial shifter you have to look at the shifter and check if you rotated the shit to the right place.Also if you owned any electronics before, dials just break more often than a literal stick. They just get loose
In 2025 cars should be voice controlled.>hey car, get into drive
>>28646952Yeah and it takes up the same amount of space as a dial while being familiar to use
>>28645649I don't understand why column shifts went away. You had column shifts in shit like B-bodies and Panthers with a big-ass trans+driveshaft tunnel going through the middle of the car and they still gave you a big flat seat in the front, and just hooked the shifter to a three foot long cable that ran down and jogged a lever on the side of the transmission because the "electronically controlled" transmission isn't actually talking to the rest of the car and God bless them for that. And now everything IS electronically controlled completely through 27 different computers, and almost everything is FWD with no reason to have a center hump at all, yet the inside of every car has a two foot tall tower of fucking Babel between the seats with a turny dial or a PRNDL+-$%?! selector, and one (1) 3-inch armrest for the driver and passenger to fight over. Why?
>>28646962why is a split bench seat not a bench seat?>>28646957man, i've never actually noticed how that gen town car is slightly weird and different on the inside. the whole dash is curved a little bit weirdly (and looks worse, look how far recessed the radio is), and there's a funky little clock up top i've never seen before, and is that a selector lever for how dampened you want your power steering at the left? that's wild
>>28645637>all my cars must have a phallic looking object that I must jerk around in order to get the vehicle goingOk
>>28648762Don't fix it if it's not broke.
>>28645637>>28645654I wouldn't say it saves space so much as it avoids getting in the way. You can pass things back and forth between the driver and passenger seats, and put things in the cupholders and storage compartment without knocking into it. It also removes visual clutter and makes the interior of the car look bigger and more open which is noticeably nice.An even bigger benefit is since the knob is unmarked and rotates 360 degrees, there isn't anything that physically links it to being in any certain gear the same way an old school automatic shifter is. This allows the car to shift itself for you or deny shifts for you in certain situations. For example, when you get into a parking spot, you can just shut the car off and get out and it will put itself in park without having to touch the knob at all. Or if you're in D but you have to throw the door open and jump out of the car, it'll put itself in neutral and apply the parking brake so the car doesn't drive away. This is intended as a safety feature but you find yourself using it as a convenience feature, similar to when you intentionally shut off a motorcycle by keeping it in gear and throwing the kickstand down to trigger the safety. Just saves you a motion. Alternatively if you're driving down the highway and your kid tries to turn the knob, it will go between D and N but it won't let you go into park or reverse. This is as opposed to a traditional automatic lever which, if you pull on it at speed, it'll go into reverse and grenade the transmission or lock up the wheels and send you careening to your death.Lastly the UX of the wheel is actually better than the lever. It takes way less energy and time to move which makes parallel parking fast and effortless. I would understand your point if it weren't tactile, but it is. It makes satisfying audible and feelable sharp clicks when you turn the knob, and you know exactly what gear you're in without looking just by feel.
>>28648787Dial>dildoDeal with it fag
>>28648814> there isn't anything that physically links it to being in any certain gear the same way an old school automatic shifter is. This allows the car to shift itself for you or deny shifts for you in certain situations.Busrider detected. An automatic will happily deny you shifting as well, but with rotary you can't even be sure what position are you shifting the shifter from and into without looking at it.
>>28645649>>28645833>>28648712>Column shiftHaving stuff like pic is the only problem with those. Otherwise it's the best solution to automatics, you don't even have to move your hands away from the wheel to shift.
>>28648814>An even bigger benefit is since the knob is unmarked and rotates 360 degrees, Non driver detected these have stops for each gear
>>28648569>>28648824You people are dead wrong, and I think this misunderstanding is the reason for threads like this. After owning a car with a dial shifter for 48 hours you don't have to look at it anymore. There are only 3 clicks in each direction so it's not that hard to intuitively count them by feeling. L is a button separate from the wheel so it doesn't get in the way. To go from D to R it's 2 clicks left, and 2 clicks right to go back. And no matter what gear you're in, if you want to go to park you just give the wheel a good spin to the left, and if you want to go to D you just give it a good spin to the right. It doesn't loop around 360 degrees, so if you just keep clicking it to the left it'll go in P and stay there. This also gives you a way to find any setting from the current one, no matter what you're currently in and assuming you don't know. For example if you're blindfolded and a partner puts it in a random gear and you need to find R, just turn the wheel a quick spin left and 1 click right and that's always R. In practice it's less complicated than it sounds because your hand does all of that stuff by itself, you're not actually "counting." The shift dial is actually a lot like a motorcycle's shift lever, where there's no physical indication of the current position but you can know what gear you're in by counting and feeling. They both have the property of "bottoming out" where on a bike if you want to go to first gear you just stomp on the lever until it's all the way at the bottom, and in a dial shifter car if you want to go to D you spin the wheel all the way to the right; and then the other gears are some number of clicks away from that. This is why the dial shifter is extremely tactile and these arguments that liken it to a touchscreen make absolutely no sense.
>>28648836>You people are dead wrong>posts bullshit that can be proven wrong instantlySorry, not reading the remainder of your post.
>>28648829You're a non driver detected, or maybe you just don't understand English. The wheel has clicks for each gear and it can stop itself from turning if it wants, but it has no physical markings and turns 360 degrees. This allows you to get in your car, turn it 3 clicks to the right from P to D, drive down the street, then shut off the car and get out without touching the knob, then when you get back in it's back in P and you turn it another 3 clicks to the right to go to D again, and repeat ad infinitum. You could theoretically fully operate the car by only turning the wheel to the right, and never turning it to the left.
>>28648824>with rotary you can't even be sure what position are you shifting the shifter from and into without looking at it.100% wrong. Dial couldn't be simpler. Turn left to park, turn right to drive. The only time you have to look down is to go into reverse. Even then you don't "have" to, you can just feel it out, but you can only be totally sure by looking down. Compared to the vast majority of "traditional" automatic shifters where there's no distinction between any of the multiple different positions and you do actually have to look down every single time for every single gear change.Also, by the way, having to look down to change gears is not even an issue in the first place. You have to be completely stationary to even do it in the first place so there's no harm or inconvenience in needing to take literally a half second to glance down. You're not taking your eyes off the road because you're not on a road in the first place, you're 99 times out of 100 in a parking lot.
>>28648844>counting clicksNGMI
>>28648849Not reading your walls of text, but the pic you posted while not being the best design (gated ones like pic are better) still allows your hand to find the lever in the familiar position. If your hand found it elsewhere you instantly realize that your idea of the currently selected position was wrong, so you can divert your gaze from the mirrors and check it.
>>28648839You read my entire post and realized the central thesis of your argument has been demolished, so you went back and jumped on an inconsequential nitpick like a redditor. Unfortunately this trick doesn't fool the onlookers, and everyone knows you've been gaped. You can just leave now.
>>28648857I did read this one and realized it contains no argument. Please post something worthy next time and make it brief.
>>28648856Funny how you were able to recognize the points I made in my post and offer rebuttals to them despite not having read the post. How are you able to gather so much information without reading?
>>28648866I guess you're predictable and the topic is not really that new, at least for me.
>>28648852>counting clicks on a dial shifterlmao ngmi not a real shifter soi cvck buzzwords buzzwords >counting clicks on a stick shifterthis is fine actually this is the best way to do it see my hand can actually just instinctively tell what gear its in based on spatial positioning
>>28645637E N T E R
>>28648870>no separate M button
>>28645637Unless you're driving a manual, the shifting mechanism is unimportant. Why are you so adamant that you need a big phallus of a shifter in your car?
>did you just open the door while in drive AND the seatbelt is unbuckled?
