>external combustion enginename a more iconic combo than Korean cars and engine bay fires
The rube goldberg machine and running out of gas. Glad I don't have to deal with that in an EV.
>>28650672>waits 40 minutes for a public charger because the other charger cable was stolen for copper
>>28650709>waits 2 hours on the side of the highway because car ran out of gas
>>28650724Never happened to me, or anyone I know, but I have a friend with a Tesla who complained that his family vacation was a miserable trip because of the range and charging timesThis is why it's important to have a functional fuel gauge, just like it's important to have a functioning battery monitor in an EV
>>28650734>Never happened to me, or anyone I knowI see rube goldberg machines on the side of the road all the time. But I've never had to wait at a charger.
>>28650734Also your friend is bullshitting. You stop every 2-3 hours for 30 minutes if maximizing time. With a family, the kids will be demanding to stop every 1-2 hours, and you end up charging to full because the kids want to go see random shit like a tourist attraction around the charger.Literally happened to my friend. Agreed to drive their family one time in the Tesla, and it was just constant stopping because they had to eat, take breaks, change diaper, constantly throughout the trip.
Yes goy, blame the car manufacturers, not Big Refrigerant lobbying the government to demand we use more dangerous, more flammable, more expensive, and higher pressure refrigerants to save le environment
>>28650724>2 hoursToo obvious, if you had said "30 minutes" your bait would have been believable
>>28650751That was an under estimate. I've passed cars parked on the side of the road 8 hours after seeing them.
>>28650659Remember when the federal government accused mercedes-benz corporation of being a bunch of conspiracy theorists when they tested R-1234yf and found it to be flammable and could explode in a crash? Lol
>>28650746>>28650771the temperature at which r1234yf combusts is way above any temperature in an engine bayiirc it was something like 900cany situation where your ac refrigerant is at risk of igniting, the gasoline in your fuel lines is probably already on fire
>>28650800Thats completely falseYou read the wikipedia article which provides a CLAIM from the SAE (federal government) lab that it took 900C for ignition. But others such as mercedes-benz tested it and found just spraying refrigerant on a hot engine resulted in ignition.
>>28650762Because they broke down, you ignorant zoomer faggot. Next you're going to pretend EVs don't break down (protip: they burn down instead).
>>28650809congrats, you also read the wiki page. that too is just a CLAIM with no documentation on what they actually did to test it meanwhile the sae (not the fed btw) has research papers detailing their experiments regarding flammability concernswe're several years into the adoption of r1234yf and has there been even a single reported incident?this recall doesn't even have anything to do with the refrigerant anyway lmao did you even bother to look before you started screeching?
>>28650800>iirc it was something like 900care you retarded? it is 405C which is around 760F. And headers can get that hot.https://gas-servei.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/06/Technical-data-sheet-R-1234yf-Gas-Servei-1.pdf
>>28650818Nah, they ran out of gas. The car looked fine.
>>28650850And in your mushy peas brain you somehow think it takes 8 hours to get more gas? Maybe in remote Alaska or in the middle of the outback. In either of those locations you wouldn't dare take an electric car. This is not the W you think it is.
>>28650853It's ok, you can believe whatever you're told to believe like a good sheep.
>>28650845Yeah Im sure every time a car burns up they can do a forensics analysis on it and positively determine that no refrigerant leaked prior to the fire starting! You dumb faggot
>>28650854>whatever I'm told to believeYou mean like how I rejected your asinine story right here?>>28650762Try again, chink.
>>28650724>call friend and tell them to bring a 5 gallon gas canLet's see you call a friend and charge your toaster on the side of the freeway.
>>28650913EVs don't run out of fuel.
>>28650915No shit, they need to be charged, and the majority of chargers in the US are =<50kWh so it will take hours to charge your pile anywhere but a libcuck metro
>>28650956You sound like the type of person to argue that hand washing your clothes is faster than using a washing machine.
>>28650724>car ran out of gasi havnt been that poor since like 2011. top off the tank wagie.
>>28650971This is a retarded analogy, as both EV and ICE vehicles get you from A->B. EVs are incompatible with escaping into the wilderness, and fast charging isn't available in many areas outside of major metros in coastal states. Is this you? Doubtful, as most EV shills don't even own an EV.
>>28650724I've been driving for ten years, that's never happened to me.
>>28651201Last time I went more than 100 miles from my home, I took an airplane.
>>28651205Been using batteries for 30 years and never had one catch fire.
>>28651255you're missing out, it's fun when you know it's comingterrifying if you don't
>>28650672>Glad I don't have to deal with that in an EV.Unless you bought a hyundai/kia firetrap.It has to be intentional. How can so many cars have a "don't park vehicle near structures" warning?https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/rcl/2025/RCAK-25V482-9211.pdfHYUNDAI/IONIQ 5/2025Owners are advised to park their vehicles outside and away from structures until the recall remedy iscomplete. Dealers will inspect and repair the high voltage battery system, as necessary, free of charge.Owner notification letters are expected to be mailed September 20, 2025. Owners may contact Hyundaicustomer service at 1-855-371-9460. Hyundai's number for this recall is 280.
>>28651253That's nice, the last time I drove more than 100 miles for a trip was in August.>>28651255You weren't using lithium ion 30 years ago, numbskull.
>>28651367I have been using batteries for 30 years. There's no issues with them catching fire.
>retarded EV shills try to derail thread >Korean own goal resurfaces >>28651362
>>28652354You weren't using the same kind of battery chemistry and technology 30 years ago as the shit that's bursting into flames nowadays. Post a picture of your 30 year old lithium ion battery.
>>28652549>EVs aren't new! They've existed for over a century>Those batteries are slightly different chemistry, so it doesn't count that you've been using them for decades!>>>/o/ flip flops so hard to cater to its mental gymnastics.