>Advocates say the technology will save lives, pointing out that Europe already requires limiters in all new cars. But critics see it as a dangerous precedent: the state taking control of how fast your car can move.>Once activated, the limiter doesn’t allow flexibility — emergencies, wide-open highways, or personal judgment no longer matter.Source: https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/washington-forcing-speeding-offenders-install-gps-speed-limitershttps://housedemocrats.wa.gov/leavitt/2025/04/21/rep-leavitts-beam-act-passes-senate-and-house-advances-to-governors-office-for-signature/https://www.ecoportal.net/en/mandatory-gps-speed-limiters-start-date/13112/
>curse up behind someone going 20 under>signal to pass>they speed up>limiter won't let me keep it pinned>abort>they slow >pit the cunt
Europe is getting this shit soon, or already on new cars as their cars use GPS and satellite data to determine the speed limit of your current position. The car will chime if you are any bit over the speed limit. Ignore it and it will shake the steering wheel. Ignore it a third time, it will force the car to slow down to the current speed limit.2026 marks the debut of anti drunk driving tech in all cars. GPS is already a thing with modern vehicles and onboard telemetry (Both EV and ICE). At least some comedy can be had when we see police chases at the speed limit. It'd be hilarious if LEO also had their vehicles limited. Would make for entertaining chases.
>>28652802>Inb4 gps spoofers
Here is how I think it should work:>every car has mandatory GPS, and accelerometers>all insurance gives you a score based on how often you violate certain parameters>if you violate a parameter, such as turning or braking too hard, you are immediately notified somehow (in-car chime, warning on display, etc)>this directly affects your insurance ratesBam, solves so much shit. Want to drive like a huge faggot? Go ahead and do so, you will just pay extra on insurance. Want to drive like a princess but let it rip once in a while? Go ahead, your insurance will barely be affected.Most people will start driving the speed limit, stop taking turns so fast, stop braking so hard, stop tailgating. Accident rates go down, car ownership cost goes down. And if that doesn't happen, it will just be the few assholes who drive like lunatics that will pay a shit ton of money extra.
>>28652819>police chases at the speed limit
>>28652825>Accident rates go down, car ownership cost goes down.That's why it won't happen, the insurance companies won't stand by and lose that much money.
>>28652819>>28652830>Pov: Op is swedish (police literally stops chasing you if shift's over halfway through it)>>28652825>Huge faggotOver here police won't bother under 140km/h. Speed limit is 120km/h.
>>28652831Why is this fucking board so retarded? First I read that companies bribe politicians to increase regulations, and now that insurance companies want people to make claims. Do you faggots live in reality?
>>28652802>remove all that shit with a simple tunecheckmate glowniggers
>>28652802>The BEAM Act (named after the four who died in the crash in Renton) requires ISA devices as a condition for restricted or occupational driver’s licenses following license suspensions tied to reckless driving or repeat speeding violations. The bill also allows courts to mandate ISA use as part of pre-trial, sentencing and probation, and includes measures to ensure affordability for low-income drivers.>as a condition for restricted or occupational driver’s licenses following license suspensions tied to reckless driving or repeat speeding violations. I see no problem. Faggots who can't drive properly don't deserve to go beyond the speed limit. cry about it manchild.
>>28652802Says they're only putting this on repeat offenders vehicles, same with the breathalyzer shit. I don't see an issue, seems like a skill issue that you got caught that many times, try not being a shit driver
>nu-/o/ literally advocates for increasing the weight of the boot on their neckI knew this board has been a lost cause for almost a decade now but damn lmao. This is an extremely slippery slope that I've been warning about here for years now, always to crickets."But don't worry", the sheeple say, "this is just for those reckless driving browns!" without realizing that they're next. In the EU it's already pre-installed in cars, meaning the tech is essentially already in a large majority of cars that aren't the 2025 Chevrolet Express. What starts as a device put into cars of what the state deems reckless drivers is going to end up as a "mandated safety feature" within a few years, I'll just name 2030 as a date. They seem to really love that year - almost as if there's some global agenda going on involving 2030.
>>28652802I drive for amazon. I am allowed to go 5mph over the limiti cant brake hard, accelerate hard, corner too hard, and must come to a complete stop at a stop sign.its fucking hell driving that truckeveryday our drivers get dinged with some violation like going 6mph over for 10 seconds or not coming to a complete and utter stop, or making an illegal u turn.its insaneyou do not want this in your personal vehicle.
>>28652825*Dings you for driving normally*
>>28652802...And This Is A Good Thing, Actually.
How long till we get carburetor swaps on efi engines?
>>28653028People do it on dirt bikes
>>28652802Old car prices are going up again.
>>28652973>I cant brake hardI don't understand this one. Surely they must allow that as you need to do so on occasion to avoid collisions. I used to work for a blood services logistics operation (courier job but the cargo is transfusion blood containers). They had onboard monitors that would record these things, including hard braking, but it all just amounted to a report they assessed in a vague way to determine you either drive reasonably or you do not. I liked that job. Lots of comfy rural drives to small town hospitals.
>>28652973Our work vans are fitted with E rode systems. Luckily no one checks them. But it'll beep me for going through an under pass. It'll freak out in the city. Absolute shit show
>>28652802>HB 1596 aims to hold the most dangerous drivers accountable by requiring the use of intelligent speed assistance (ISA) devices for individuals whose licenses have been suspended due to reckless or excessive speeding.So like a breathalyzer then.But we all know that'll apply to everyone eventually
>>28652802>crazy serial killer in a 2025 model year car is chasing you down>you can only do 55mph
>>28652802Just want to say I commend you for posting sources
>>28652825>every time you hit a pothole the accelerometer pegs and you get dinged>insurance companies start lobbying individual states to let their roads decay>stupid faggot retard anon didn't think hard enough and ceded control to the government because he thinks thought crimes are actual crimes
Thankfully my 2 reckless charges are 15 years old. I feel bad for the kids out there. Maybe I should consider getting an OBD-1 car again.
if corona taught us something is that the general public DEMANDS that daddy government comes in regulates every detail in their life. one of the largest blackpill recently was reading up on ford forums what people think about the start/stop button you have to turn off every time you start the engine because of braindead climate regulations and magic gas. people cant even fathom that regulation is something like a natural force
>>28653351*is not something likeobviously
>>28653351>general publicdepends on where you livesounds like you live in a dystopian hellhole and need to actively foment change or leave
>>28652802Oh shit, not this again. America decides to test something but cancels it but then we end up copying it without even checking. Eventually they will fail anyway, the maps will become outdated and the mobile service of the car will eventually stop working. If you have ever used an old gps with outdated maps you know how bad they can be.>>28652819For the middle normie it might be ok for them, you know the type. You just know this stuff is leading into things like 15 minute cities.
I'm already getting spammed with this shit that pops up on my dash for no reason at all. NO, KIA. I AM NOT DRIVING ERRATICALLY Also, when it's really sunny on the highway, and I drive under a bridge, the shade triggers an automatic collision detection warning, and my piece of shit car starts to frantically beep as the auto brake slows me down, EVEN THOUGH THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NOTHING IN FRONT OF ME. I feel like everything just keeps getting worse
>>28653380this rarely comes on in my sportageand the only issue ive ever had with the automatic collision thingy is if you are parking and there's cars going past you rapidly it gets confuseddo you have the newer one with a camera?I feel like mine all it detects is if you somehow wave you hand right in front of the instrument cluster otherwise it never comes on
>>28653385I got a 2022 Forte. It's a decent ride, gets me A to B, excellent gas mileage, but the dash spam is annoying. And the auto collision detection happens to me quite often on bright sunny days
>>28653389ive never really had either of those issues you should check with a repair shop to see if the sensor might need recalibrating the auto collision detection thing where it wouldn't let me parallel park cuz there was SO much rapid traffic going past in the lane to the left happened at nightive never noticed issues in bright sunlight and im super thankful all the ADAS stuff works the same or better at night
>>28652819>Europewestern yurop. shit wont fly in me eastern europe shithole.t. never drove under 10 above speed limit.
Wow look at that, two gen x office schmucks talking about how god damn awful all of the sensorino tech gadgetry is, all the problems it causes, extra expense, downtime, and neither of them will admit this stuff is garbage and a waste.Years ago I had an uncle who felt all smug that his subaru forester had some kind of adaptive cruise control, but was then clearly dissastisfied with the two settings available being either too close or too far away, and having no option to tune it.Now we got lane assist shittery that freaks out from worn paint lines, freaks out if you dont forcibly perfectly center in the lane through curves. Brake assist that freaks out from shadows and glares. Parking assist that freaks out from litter. Sensors that make ghost data. A dozen other bullshits.All this stuff has actually contributed to is dipshit people justifying being on their phones while driving, and people as a whole being worse drivers.Fuck off. It's all bad.>>28653075>video of the jailbreaker who stole a truck and rammed the two dudes in a corolla multiple times.webm
Instead of toiling away cracking video games, why dont pirates try to crack ECUs and get rid of all this junk?
>>28653409I think you are just stuck using only older/worse Subaru software and sensors. Works fine on my Kia. The cruise control has 4 different following settings, and I guess people complained the closest one wasn't close enough cuz it's REALLY close and I don't mind people cutting in on me vs tailing me. The lane assist just seems to turn off randomly like once every 100 miles, not because of any clear defect in paintthe problem with the Kia system (the version I have) is there's no warning chime when the lane keep assist stops assisting > freaks out if you dont forcibly perfectly center in the lane through curvesit doesn't care about this but it does have trouble following and slowing down for hairpin curvesI think the newer versions are supposed to be better in curves>Brake assist that freaks out from shadows and glares.neverthe worst it does is brake hard if someone REALLY slows down to make a turn but is already out of the lane>Parking assist that freaks out from litter.it does beep if there's like brush nearby but it's not too bad, the 360 camera is way more useful than the parking sensors and once you have the 360 you don't really use the parking sensors as much >Sensors that make ghost data. A dozen other bullshits.nopethe only other flaw is if a lane veers off to the right, and there's no dotted line between them, it keeps right even if your navigation path is forward
>>28652819>Europe is getting this shit soon, or already on new cars as their cars use GPS and satellite data to determine the speed limit of your current position. The car will chime if you are any bit over the speed limit. Ignore it and it will shake the steering wheel. Ignore it a third time, it will force the car to slow down to the current speed limit.Most cars just chime once and then stay quiet until the speed limit changes or you pass over the limit again.You listed all the things they're allowed to do to implement ISA, but it's enough that one of these things happens. Manufacturers have overwhelmingly chosen the chime, which is annoying enough, but can thankfully be muted in almost every car.Some car makers have also been adding convenient buttons that disable all the nannies so you can delete them for the rest of the drive in one press.Which is a nice thing, since the speed limit data is often outdated crap, doesn't update properly for winter speed limits, the cars can't recognize signs because of rain or snow, or even mistake random stuff like candidate numbers in election ads along the road for speed limits.Hopefully the economic woes the car industry is going through will make them lobby for less automated crap that they have to develop, test and maintain.
>>28652955Slippery slope
>>28652819Ah yes,t he country of Europe.
>>28653302Thanks bro
>>28653351>magic gasLess magic than the gases normally coming out of your assYet the general public don't understand it
>>28652802>another cagie LNot my problem.
>>28652802>Advocates say the technology will save liveslmfao. more 'saving people from themselves' mentality
>>28652825>such as turning or braking too hardinb4 trolls make people swerve for them to crank up their insurance rates
>>28652802Globohomo want to enslave us !
>>28652955>Faggots who can't drive properly don't deserve to go beyond the speed limitcongratulations, where that person would've deleted themselves being stupid behind the wheel, they can now instead stay alive for longer, making even more stupid decisions instead
>>28652802good. some people are too retarded to drive unrestricted.
>>28653545>t.too retarded to use Internet unrestricted
>>28653426>Slippery slopeNot an argument>>28653541Yeah and they could have also deleted other people with them. Are you a fucking retard underage child that thinks speeding and reckless driving is cool? Is your skin tone brown by any chance?
>>28653380Bullshit like this is going to put such a premium on 2010-2016 (roughly) era carsI can’t even imagine how frustrating that must be. Christ, on my 2010, even the seatbelt nagging drives me nuts (yes Reddit, I drive the quarter mile down the lane to my mailbox without buckling up)
this thread is full of bots
>>28653602>Bullshit like this is going to put such a premium on 2010-2016 (roughly) era carsThe 2020 Corolla doesn't have annoying warnings except for the seatbelt warning (which is loud as hell). The lane assist stays off between starts. Infocrap's a bit dated but supports Android Auto, so whatever.Maybe Toyota's dated electronics and design aren't entirely a bad thing.Strangely enough, I bought it slightly used a couple of years ago and have driven it quite a bit, but used Corollas of the same model-year and with more kilometers on the clock now cost more than what I paid for it.
>>28653380The hyundai i rented recently would beep at me while i was turning because my eyes moved away from the front windshield. At least i think that's what that beeping was about. I never had time to check the console during the beep. Rental company disabled the option to turn the driver attention monitor off.
i dont care nigger you cant monitor my car
>>28653380>>28653999That feature really sucks in some cars. It's not so bad in others.I drove a rental VW for a few hours some time ago and managed to trigger it exactly once, by letting loose a long bored yawn while waiting for the traffic lights. I'd say that was reasonable, or would have been if the car had been moving.
>>28654058These kinds of features make people worse drivers. Fuck, all the way back to automatic trannies - every convenience feature that let the driver get away with paying less attention has made for worse drivers. Mark my words, some big faggot Reddit brain nerd will write a book in the next 15 years entitled “the safety paradox” and do a tour on the smug fart smelling talk show circuit. This will be around the time self driving cars are mandated, either by fiat or prohibitively expensive due to insurance.The future is as gay as it is grim.
>>28652825This is the product of a white leftoid mind. What's going to happen to all of the brownoids driving without insurance, faggot?
>>28653599>Yeah and they could have also deleted other people with themso be it. i'd rather be at risk of that if it means they die with me, than people crying for daddy government to govern them harder.
>>28654218An underrated take in 2025. The cost of freedom and liberties is some amount of risk. Contrary to the very limited, very poor progressive mind mommy govt cannot keep you 100% safe in all circumstances; and in the long run the cure is worse than the condition when it comes to regulations.
>>28653599>Not an argumentNot an argument
>>28653540>Globohomo want to enslave us !Hitler didn't kill 6 million Jooz. The guards at the local labor camp did.The Globalist won't enslave you, your neighbor who works for the county will.
>>28652973Almost every semi truck made in the last 10 years has this nanny tech on them, you don't fucking want it.>Be cruising on the limiter at 65mph>Catch up to slower truck>Go to pass him>He sees me in his mirror passing>I BETTER NOT LET THAT GOD DANG OL TRUGG PASH ME I BETTER SHPEED UP ON HIM OR MAH LIL WAEINER GONNA FALL OFF>65mph drag race for 20 milesthat's how it happens folks if you're going down the road stuck behind two semis having a 65mph race. now imagine every nigger and brown and Crystal Methany with this shit in their cars now.
>>28654441motorists are fully okay with truckers suffering like thiswe don't like your kind at all and we'd prefer not to have to share a road with you.
>>28654449Thid is bait right?
>>28655003>how do you do fellow motoristsNo, it's completely legit.
>>28655168Ok if it isnt bait you're retarded.The only reason the highways interstates and such even exist is because of trucking.Every single thing you've ever touched exists because of trucking.It's their roads. Our lives depend on it. No place on this fucking planet has the good things it does without truck transport.
>>28655194>not knowing related memes>not recognizing sarcasmNGMI
>>28653028Why?
>>28655199Nigger.
>>28655194Truckers are dumb fat dropout scum with no skills
>>28655213My thoughts exactly.
>>28653416Any "assist" that interferes with the steering is a fucking danger. I've had the displeasure of driving a few dozen different rentals of modern era in the past 3-4 years. From bottom barrel to mid grade to high trim.It's all shit. It's an annoyance at best and a danger at worst.The next car I drive that vibrates the fucking steering wheel and "softly" attempts to "correct" my steering I'm just going to let it sideswipe the traffic next to me and I hope it's you and your kids in that vehicle. Maybe then you'll learn this shit is SHIT and should not be in cars.Fucking braindead lead maxed gen x loser.
>>28652802>the new tuning market will be gps spoofers
>>28655247all those things is overhyped shittech mandated by mongoloid managerial dimwits. we live in the best timeline
>>28653039Buy more old vehicles now
>>28655385Obama had them all destroyed
>>28652802>buying new
>>28654136Explain how this would be different with my solution than today.
>>28655462HELL FUCKING YEAH BROTHER
>>28653429>HOLD ON
>>28652802Sucks for new vehicles.Get an older vehicle and be free of all of this nonsense.
>>28656568the only problem with this is as the supply of older cars dries up, they reach unobtainium prices and then people, especially younger people, no longer have cheap fun cars to enjoy, it'll either be>2040 kia ev 13 with sleep deprivation and speed limit monitor>SUPER FUN 2020 rav4 with ONLY just lane keep assist!
>>28656616this isnt a new problem, no car is worth building after 1997.
>>28656619>worth building after 1997I assume you meant "buying".Also what an arbitrary year, there were vehicles made in that year and the following years due to being in the same production generation.
>>28656619yeah and there's gonna be even fewer of them 20 years from now
>>28656616>the only problem with this is as the supply of older cars dries upone problem: car production has MASSIVELY expanded since back in "the day"case in point: there were barely more than 100,000 E-body Challengers made in its entire 4-year production run, B Body Chargers totaled barely over 200,000 unitsthere are over one million registered LC/LA Challengers in the United States.the infamous L32 Nissan Altima sold 1.5 million between 2007 and 2012the amount of Ford F150s that exist is a number not speakable by human tongue.every american citizen alive today could be given a car for free and there would still be cars left over. absolutely nobody is ever getting rid of cars without a full on mad max apocalypse scenario that makes using them physically impossible. there are so many cars that getting rid of them all at once would cause a far worse ecological disaster than if we just drove them. that cat is so far out of the bag it's running for president.
>>28652802Anyone can order a tiny size, low power GPS jammer from overseas and use that in their own car. These are usually plugged into 12v outlet or USB port.No high power GPS jammers so it wont cause issues for others outside of your own car.
