Now something surprising, but I was curious. I always thought oversteer is better or at least more expected but many professional track racers actually say otherwise. What makes seemingly bad thing as understeering to be actually desired in professional track racing?
>>28653076Time is 4 in the Fibinacci Sequence
They want the car to be predictable
Oversteer is very scary.
>>28653076Understeer is generally easier to recover from than oversteer.
>>28653076Easier to steer more than un-steer
While oversteer is fun, and a test of one's skill, it's not conducive to the fastest lapp times when you know the rear could kick out if you go flat out. With understeer you can just quickly lift the throttle and you're back in line.Personally I prefer sliding to lap times, but my income isn't dependent on how fast I drive.
>>28653078>Fibinaccitake your meds lil bro
>>28653076wouldn't say generally, it depends on the type of racing, the track, driver preference, for instance on ovals it's better to have a loose car, on endurance you'll prefer the car to be more predictable
It depends on the driver and their driving style
>>28653076>Why do professional race drivers generally prefer understeer?They don't Look at the best F1 or Lemans drivers.They prefer direct front ends and oversteer.If you do track days, you'd understand.Sure understeer is safer, but it's not faster.If the front end of my car doesn't steer where you want, you're going to be slow
>>28653076Oversteer is more fun, if you go too far you can drift and correct. Understeer is more predictable you can either make the turn or you can't. If you're just trying to set the fastest lap possible I'd imagine the more predictable handling would be better. Less fun, less exciting; but probably faster.What's fun isn't always what's fast.
>>28653150>ovals it's better to have a loose carwat, it’s way harder to save a slide on an oval.
>>28653258loose is fast, it's always been, the better drivers tend to drive more on the edge https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxkL7fcwRmo
>>28653076Understeer is safer in terms of ability to correctOversteer is objectively worse because if you push too hard the tail of the car will fly out.There is no benefit to oversteer so understeer is preferred.
>>28653266There’s a reason 99.9% of races don’t look like that.
>>28653626retard
>>28653078Your mom tribognoccied my cock last night
because they are chasing lap times instead of having fun with oversteer.same reason gt3 cars use nannies. less fun, but ultimately faster
>>28654599yo whats orbb doing ITT
>>28653076They prefer it because it makes the car more stable on corner entry, and if your car is set up with more grip in the rear (that would cause understeer), you also have that better rear grip on corner exit too.You’re talking small margins. Nobody wants a smeary mess that can’t turn.
>>28653076The party line I've heard is that understeer is faster>>28653266In his book, Jackie Stewart praised how smooth Ayrton Senna was and commented that loose/driving on the edge drivers may win one world championship but flame out, and that persistently successful drivers are always smooth
Understeer is more predictable and manageable
>>28654680>senna>smoothGo watch the clips of schumacher explaining how senna is anything but smooth with his car control.People write dumb faggoty shit in books all the time.
>>28654599Youre just mad because you want muh rwd to be kind (its not)
>>28653076It’s more predictable and controllable. Snap oversteer is your worst enemy.
>>28654680>understeer is fasterUndersteer means you have steering control margin locked out of being possible.Loose means you have -The- limit and can exceed it.A "loose" car is faster. A less skilled driver can't fuck up a tight car, but they can always be slower.A more skilled driver will understand how to ride the edge of a loose car.You have zero margin of balance of control in an understeer/tight tuned vehicle. You have no way of using possible extra slip/rotation in situations where it would be beneficial.
>>28655155>It's impossible to rotate in a car that tends towards understeer Driverlet
>>28653118pic related is you, and that's a good thing, very data-driven exposition mr. robot
>>28653076Oversteer is more fun but less predictable and worse for lap times. Understeer is less fun but more predictable and better for lap times. There are exceptions but generally this is true.
>>28655019He probably spends too much time watching Randy pubes and hanging out with faggy auto*rossers
>>28655155Perhaps you're just a retard that doesn't actually understand driving dynamics.
>>28653160>>28653266It still depends on frankly everything and those Cup cars look more sideways than they are because they are yawed like 5 degress going down the straight.Alonso's championship winning Renault F1 cars all looked like they drove like dump trucks but they worked. For Indy cars on ovals oversteer is fucking terrifying but being able to deal with a pointy car allows for less drag and less front scrub when running dead flat out. Loose was considered especially good in older generations of NASCAR cars because they're front heavy and tend to annihilate the right front tire and they had lots of side force to stabilize them at yaw, but more broadly becomes more preferable in long corners where mid-corner roll speed is emphasized rather than entry stability and exit traction. If you go back far enough you will find most top level race cars inherently had lots of entrance understeer as a trade off of getting any power to the ground reliably before tires, diffs, and power delivery got better.If we just put aside aerodynamic concerns (although the yaw sensitivity of downforce cars is a major influencer on balance) for some cars the only way to make them not oversteer is to take away a lot of grip at the front, some cars the only way to make them not understeer is to take away a lot of grip at the rear and if you go too far it's just going to make you slower balance be damned.
>>28655155God i love how this post and the 2 replies perfectly illustrate what a dump 4chan is. 1 guy explains how and why a thing works and the 2 monkey's replying to him are just screeching and throwing shit kek
